Pyzel "Gremlin" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep.63

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Matt Cotton - 4 years ago

@Waxfoot mostly beachies,and used it on a local reef slab and it went really good too.yea it cant hurt. the first time for me i took 2 sets of fins down to the beach just in case.

Waxfoot - 4 years ago

Matt Cotton cheers Bru, I think I’ll pull the trigger and try it out. Out of interest, do you surf mostly beachies or points with that set up?

Matt Cotton - 4 years ago

@Waxfoot i def think it would work.its a whole different feel. fast and loose but never slid out due to the trailer fin.this is my favorite board now.

Waxfoot - 4 years ago

Matt Cotton hey matt, this post caught my eye. Reckon the MR twin + 1 setup could work in this?

Crossover Case - 5 years ago

Noel, this board versus the lost pjhp???

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Crossover Case Never tried one but I hear they are tough.

Crossover Case - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews gotcha. How do you feel about the lib tech version of the pjhp? Thats whats kind of making the decision a little tough for me. I heard those ones delaminate and crack though, even though they are “indestructible”

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Crossover Case Tough one... both boards shred. I like the Gremlin better due to the tail being a bit narrower. More performance in the pocket

Crossover Case - 5 years ago

Nevermind ive read through the comments and found the answer lol ill see if this 5’4 gremlin is still available on Craigslist over here

Waxfoot - 5 years ago

Just went and bought one, thanks for making the decision easier!

Ps: Bought a Phantom after studying the footage as well ;)
Ghost next

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Waxfoot Epic Quiver

Freediver41jtf - 5 years ago

Thanks for the review, guess im a little slow to the gremlin party. I just bought the 6' gremlin a few months back and surfed mokuleia overhead with the am2 tech flex quad set up and it was unreal... Scary fast and yet had choke control making the turns. Im 6'2" ,195 lbs and 49 years old for reference. Have a 6-4 phantom also and ride it thrust and quad in all different sizes. Wishing I would have bought the 6'2 phantom but still, when we transition to south shore oahu waves for the summer, both boards will be invaluable. Pyzels rails on these boards are perfect. Keep the reviews coming, thanks again.

Water Dog - 5 years ago

Noel, for the Gremlin do you recommend going up in volume compared to daily driver? I'm 54 yrs old and finding it harder to get into waves as early or as accurate my feet in fast waves. So getting in earlier and more stable is good but do not like the feel of wide/thick boards and how they are hard to get on rail, more of a function of width than volume. Usually ride around 32.5 +/- in volume. Thinking 5'9" Gremlin but volume might be low for groveler but at 20 1/4" wide, already wider than I would like. I'm 5'11" 175lbs...and old.

Thanks again for the great hands on reviews.

Thanks

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Water Dog Cheers!!!

Water Dog - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews Thanks for all your feedback. Now go and enjoy your favorite drink! Owe you and will stoke you with a pay pal donation.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Water Dog Gremlin will paddle better and have more stability for you and what your struggling with.

Water Dog - 5 years ago

@Surf n Show Reviews Noel, sorry for the comment attack... last one, promise. How would you compare the Gremlin to the Neck Beard 2?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Water Dog Yes... excellent paddler

Water Dog - 5 years ago

@Surf n Show Reviews Thanks for the fast reply. When waves are soft, no issues getting in early enough or landings. On East Coast VA/NC I know you'd think waves would break slow, at least in VA, but even if not big, often dumpy funky and difficult to paddle into early. On shorter boards with more volume cannot push board down into wave and get hung up at the top, spend the day going over the falls. From your comments on this board, sounds like it paddles easy for it's volume/size, is that correct?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Water Dog Those liters sound about right. Width can make boards feel a bit tight under foot but great stability right. I say 5’9 sounds good and if your struggling in catching waves then maybe 5’10

Matt Cotton - 5 years ago

@Surf n Show Reviews ci fever. ci og flyer and tommorow the gremlin. fever and og flyer are epic!!! fever as my step up og flyer for those in between days and now the gremlin for my groveler.

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Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Matt Cotton Yewww! Thanks for posting. What 3 boards did you get? Just curious

Matt Cotton - 5 years ago

@Surf n Show Reviews thanks noel. best reviews on youtube brotha.past 3 board purchases have been due to your reviews.thanks for all the hard work

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Matt Cotton Both boards are epic!! Get the Gremlin for a good price... that’s what I would do

jmlee84 - 5 years ago

i want one. im low intermediate learning how to pump on small beach breaks.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

jmlee84 Sick Board for sure

jmlee84 - 5 years ago

@Surf n Show Reviews Noel I got the 5'8. It's got so much float and it flies down the line. Love it! Thanks for the great review, I could tell the board looked different under your feet than most boards.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

jmlee84 super sick board! Make sure you get enough float so you catch a lot of waves

James Schaefer - 5 years ago

Hi Noel,

For East Coast waves would you prefer the Gremlin or Phantom? I already have a 6'4 Sampler and I am looking for a board that will progress my turns. Thank you

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Jman11555 Gremlin is excellent for 1-4’ waves. Phantom is 3-7’ surf. EC surfing I would be on a short Gremlin

j808 - 5 years ago

Grabbing one of these this week :)

Eamon Shields - 5 years ago

Yewwwww you shredded that Groveler. Definitely picking one up. Love the Ghost lineup

Eamon Shields - 5 years ago

@Surf n Show Reviews Thanks Noal !! Will let you know which one I go with

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Eamon Shields Both boards are epic. The Seaside is a High Performance Fish and the Gremlin is Groveler with a Thruster vibe to it. You either want a fish/Quad performance feel or a little more pivot in the pocket. Both boards a lightening quick and grovel very well.

Eamon Shields - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews hey man, we talked about the seaside the other day. It’s either this or the seaside, which one would you go with. This will be my first short small wave board.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Eamon Shields Cheers!! Let me know how it goes for you....

Melanie Balke - 5 years ago

Noel, I gotta ask you as a pro and all-mighty board wizard. I've spoken to so many people about this and I keep getting different answers.

I currently ride a Chilli Rarebird (5'8", 19 1/2", 2 3/8", 27.70 liters). I either ride the Chilli or my longboard. While I love the Chilli I feel like I just need something that makes my life in the line-up easier. I want to catch waves even easier, paddle faster and work on perfecting my turns (by perfecting I mean actually executing nice proper bottom turns, cut-backs etc. in drawn out lines).

I was thinking the Chilli just doesn't have enough volume and have been looking at everything from the Pyzel Gremlin, #4 Channel Island, Slater Designs SciFi, Mayhem Uber Driver etc. etc. etc.

Any tips? Ideas? Any board you would go for? Any volume you'd recommend?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Melanie Balke You liters should be roughly 20-21 for upper intermediate, if that seems low in volume for you go up a liter or two. The Gremlin will go mental in the South Bay!!!

Melanie Balke - 5 years ago

Thanks for answering btw :)

Melanie Balke - 5 years ago

@Surf n Show Reviews
119 at 5'3ish
Pretty much small Los Angeles mush. 2-3ft mostly. 3-4 sometimes. Rare 5-6

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Melanie Balke How much do you weigh and how tall are you?

What size waves for this board?

DAVE - 5 years ago

Hi Noel
Ive just recently purchased a phantom 5'11, 19 3/4, 2 1/2, 31 L, I normally ride around 31L. I was looking at the gremlin for 1-3 waves. I was thinking the 5'8, 20, 2 1/2, 31.6L
What size would you recommend for me in the Gremlin, the 5'8 or 5'9 for a groveller in small 1-3ft waves. and what fcs2 fins would you recommend as quad for the gremlin

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

David I like the idea of the 5’8” Gremlin with similar liters as your 5’11” Phantom if the Phantom paddles good for you. The Gremlin has less rocker and more foam under the chest so it will even paddle better compared to your Phantom at roughly the same liters.

I like my boards ultra responsive that’s why my Grovelers are roughly the same liters as my HPSB.

If you think you need a little more foam in 1-3’ mush then go for the 5’9”.

I recommend the Perfomer Quad set up.

Wesley Turner - 5 years ago

If you custom ordered the gremlin, narrowed it a bit and ordered a round tail, how far into the head high realm could you push this board? I'm thinking about ordering this or the Phantom at 5'9 19 3/4 = ~~, 2.5 + - with a round tail for hold and turning. I'm 5' 9" 175. The board would be my all arounder for 2~~ 8ish surf. 32L feels best to paddle with is important to me. I ride point breaks in Santa Barbara mostly... intermediate surfer 40 years young and fit. Any input besides telling me I'm a KOOK would be sweet... and i know I'm a Kook but I still have fun.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Wesley Turner That’s a tough one... both boards are sick and surf completely different. I like the Cymatic better for vertical pocket surfing because it’s short and it fits so good in the hook. I like the Phantom for big carves and rail turns. Phantom still does good turns in the pocket too. Both boards have a lot of speed.... the Phantom is a little more user friendly. That’s all I got on these two... I would probably have them both in my quiver!!!

Wesley Turner - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews What’s your favorite between the Phantom and the Cymatic for a daily driver?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Wesley Turner The Cymatic and Phantom both fit the Daily Driver 3-7’ wave range. Neither of them will Grovel well though. If you want a good Groveler 1-4’ surf then I recommend the Gremlin or Rocket Wide.

Wesley Turner - 5 years ago

@Surf n Show Reviews So for a more versatile pick you would pick the Phantom? You look like you had a blast on the Cymatic to! I'm considering either a custom Roberts Dream Catcher, the Phantom or the stock 5'7 Cymatic. The choice is hard!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Wesley Turner The Round Tail will hood a bit better but the Gremlin does not have bunch of rocker so it will struggle in steep hollow waves. It should go pretty good though on your point breaks. Cheers

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KOSTAS GOULAS - 5 years ago

Another Great video.
I am 170cm 62kg low intermidiate solid pop up, can turn easily but lack in pumping speed. In 2018 I had my first surf trip in Bali ( I live in Greece)
What is the best size vol Gremlin for me? Can I use it as 1 board quiver that I take this abroad?
Thanks in advance!

Sean Alborough - 5 years ago

Hi Noel
my name is Sean and I live in Cape Town South Africa:) My son and I watch your videos all the time and they are seriously great! Thanks for all the awesome surf lessons and content.

I am looking to buy a new shortboard and am specifically looking to get a board that I can surg in smaller not so great waves (ie. 1-6 ft fairly flat), as my local break most often has waves more suited to a groveler or long board.

I am 92kg (203 lbs) and 6'0. I am 40 years old ans surf roughly 1 -2 days a week.
I would say I am an intermediate surfer.

I currently have these 2 boards:

(1) My shortboard
6'10 19 1/4 2 3/4
> I dont know the volume as it was shaped in 2002. I would estimate its probably around +-35L

(2) My longboard
9.1

I can still catch and surf my shortboard but I find it slow and slugish in the smaller conditions. (most of the time Im surfing with a wetsuit aswell)

I have been researching and think I have narrowed down which boards I would like to get (The Pyzel Gremlin or Lost Puddle Fish. The Pyzel Gremlin is the one I am leaning to at the moment).

** Pyzel Gremlin
6'4 21 2 3/4 40.70L
6'6 21 1/4 2 7/8 44.20L
(https://www.pyzelsurfboards.com/index.php?page=surfboard-details&id=5893)

Puddle Fish
5’11 22.00 2.70 40L
6’0 22.25 2.75 42L
6’1 22.50 2.75 43L
6’2 22.50 2.80 44.62L
(https://lostsurfboards.net/surfboards/puddle-fish/)

I looked at the following volume calculators and I would estimate Im a 0.42GF
https://lostsurfboards.net/surfboard-volume-calculator/
So that actual recommends a volume below 40L (but I feel thats too low as Ive also riden a 40L bshortboard and it feels too sluggish).

This volume calculator would sugest Im between 40L - 45L: https://surfsimply.com/surf-coaching/volume-weight-ratios/

So I cant decide whether I should be going for a 40L board or a 42L or a 44L?

Im not sure if you have any thoughts or advice?

thanks :)

regards,

Sean

HighRollaaaaaaaaaaaa - 5 years ago

Awesome review, really appreciate it. Seeing if you can please do me a favor, and help answer what size gremlin I should rock? I am a novice but quick learner, 5’11” 185-190 lbs, with some belly fat to lose. Also, read these boards were mainly for north shore groveling which is different to other groveling spots? I’m in North OC. I look forward to hearing from you! Thanks!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

HighRollaaaaaaaaaaaa I would say your liter range should be around 33-35. That puts you on a 5’10 Gremlin.

Fred Smith - 5 years ago

Awesome reviews and surfing! I’m a nov/intermediate and typically ride mushy weak gulf coast waves. I’m 5’8” 180lbs Currently riding a 5’7 CI Average Joe At 36.5L. Why size would you recommend the Gremlin in?

Cheers

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Fred Smith Rocket Wide or Pod Mod

Fred Smith - 5 years ago

Thanks for the quick Reply. If I’m not able to get ahold of a Gremlin down here what would be the most similar in a CI model?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Fred Smith I suggest liters ranging from 32-33. So the 5’8” or 5’9” should be good. Your Ave Joe is a cruiser at those liters for your weight and skill level.

marcus Crespo - 5 years ago

Noel, for 2019 what groveler and daily driver would you recommend? SO from Brazil

Peter C - 5 years ago

Phantom 6ft 6.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

marcus Crespo My Favorites for 2018 can be found on our website www.surfnshow.com. Gremlin, Rocket Wide, Seaside... Check it out.

Ran Hadad - 5 years ago

Or maybe to wait for the seaside? (:

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Ran Hadad Both of those boards are sick for 1-3’ waves. The Gremlin paddles better and a little faster down the line. The RW does tighter turns in the pocket.

Jayson Websther - 5 years ago

Sir Noel, how can you compare this Gremlin to DHD 3DV?

hope you could answer this and i can learn a better insigth of which one should i grab

Jayson Websther - 5 years ago

thanks for answering sir noel cheers!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

khalil jayson The Gremlin is faster and paddles better too. The 3DV can handle a little bigger surf. If you are looking for a sick board in 1-3’ The I would go Gremlin.

Julia Claisse - 5 years ago

Love your show !! thanks for your epic work. Will you ever review the voyager 1 from Pyzel ?

Rodrigue Monteiro - 5 years ago

@Surf n Show Reviews I'm sure the you're preparing a review on the new Pyzel's HPSB. Btw voyager 1 is the best board ever :) !

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Julia Claisse Not sure... i have another review dropping on a Pyzel but it’s not the Voyager. It’s something new.... can’t talk about it yet.

Kapukataumahaka Owheo - 5 years ago

Noel... Neckbeard 2 or Gremlin? Your stars ratings point to one being a little better.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Kapukataumahaka Owheo The NB2 is my Favorite board for 1-6’ surf but the Gremlin does paddle better.

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Daniel diaz granados - 5 years ago

what would you recommend, gremlin or rocket wide?

James Schaefer - 5 years ago

Hey Noel, after seeing this comment I wanted to know. Would you go with the Gremlin or Phantom for East Coast waves?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Daniel diaz granados Both boards are insane!!! The Gremlin paddles better and might have a little more down the line speed but the RW is better in the pocket. If I were surfing 1-2’ East Coast mush I would want the Gremlin. Here in So Cal I prefer the RW.

Steven Press - 5 years ago

hey noel. Im looking at a new board but each review i watch i keep changing my mind. Im a intermediate rider and want something that will make it easier to paddle on to waves and will help me in more responsive turns. Ive been looking at the CI Rocket wide, Gremlin and the Lost Psycho killer. I cant afford all 3 and want something thats gonna do me for most days. mostly surf 1 to 5 ft surf. Any help will be appreciated

Chris Song - 5 years ago

Wow, your surfing is on point with that board. Never caught or bogged or got weird. Super flowy.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Chris Song The Gremlin is sick!!! Thanks for the kind words.

onespeed - 5 years ago

Can grovelers catch small rolling waves like longboards?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

sean craig Just depends on the volume you get... if I got a 6’3 40 liter Groveler then I could catch waves at my long board spot no problem.

Tubie Salut - 5 years ago

Hey Noel, can you recommend a quad fin setup for small mushy Florida surf on the Gremlin - mainly concerned with generating speed. I'm 170-175 lbs and going with the 5'10" 34L Gremlin. Thanks man. Love the reviews!

Tubie Salut - 5 years ago

Thanks Noel. Much appreciated! That really helps.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Tubie Salut I like the Jack Freestone Large side fins and the Medium HS1 Quad Rear Generation fins. I think Futures is about to release a whole new line of Quad Rears. But the Jack’s and HS1 Quad Rears are both speed generating fins.

Tubie Salut - 5 years ago

Dam you're quick dude. Futures.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Tubie Salut FCSII or Futures?

Brent Rucker - 5 years ago

Hi Noel, I really like your show and I go to your videos and site all the time for very detailed and accurate reviews.
The Gremlin sounds fantastic. I definitely want to check it out, but I saw that you mentioned that the EPS was not as strong as other EPS boards. I saw that Pyzel makes boards in Standard EPS and Pyzel’s Electralite. Do you happen to know if the board that you rode was in Electralite or EPS?
Also, I live in San Diego and I have a foamie for 1-2ft onshore/high tide, etc, so I’m looking for a board that works in the 2ft-4ft on steeper waves (about 80% of the time, the forecast says 2-3ft). You mention that the Phantom is good for 2-6ft steeper waves while the Gremlin is for 1-4ft. Would you recommend the Gremlin or the Phantom for 2-4ft steep waves? Thanks

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Brent Rucker My Board was regular EPS with a team light glass job. A stock EPS or Electralite will be stronger compared to mine.

The Gremlin is a true Groveler for 1-4’ and the Phantom is a Daily Driver for 2-7+’ surf. If you are happy groveling on your soft top then maybe go with the Phantom for a little more hold in your turns and performance in the pocket.

Both boards will go good though.

Niccolò De Vido - 5 years ago

Very good reviews! i'm intermediate level, still improving in feeling the board right under my feet while riding and start to do some turns... i am 5'8 150 pounds, i bought a 5'11 ghost in Bali and it feels very good to me for paddling and riding those waves! But now i came back to Europe and the waves around here are definitely smaller and mellow most of the time. would you suggest me to look for a board like the gremlin or phantom because is gonna help me improving much more for sure, or just continue to ride the ghost anyway! cheers

Alessandro Alpago - 5 years ago

Niccolò De Vido Ciao Niccolò, I bought the Ghost and Phantom, lets buy the Gremlin too and lets go to a surf trip soon

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Niccolò De Vido The Phantom and Gremlin will go much better in smaller waves. I would get the Gremlin for waves in the 1-4’ range.... if it gets bigger than that often then go Phantom.

K Mendoza - 5 years ago

Hi Noel, I ride a stock 5’9 phantom in northern California and im considering a gremlin in eps what size should I get? Never owned an eps board so I’m not sure how to gauge the extra floatation. I’m 5’9 at 177lbs

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

K Mendoza Yewww! Cheers let me know how that Gremlin goes for you.

K Mendoza - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews best channel on YouTube! thanks for the reply!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Keanu Mendoza The Stock 5’5” Gremlin looks good in EPS at 28.2. It will float more like 28.7 liters... really close to your Phantom. If you want more float then the 5’6” at 29.5 will float more like 30 liters. Up to you...

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

I am 5.1 ft and weigh 88 lbs. Surf 0.5 ft to 3 ft and I'm beginner / intermediate. Is that the right board for me? and if what specs. I am 11 years old.

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

Thanks

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Julius Blicher I say jump down to roughly 25 liters

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews This is my first season 2018. I Can angle, some carving and still working on the cutbacks. I find my board a bit heavy to turn and does not have enough rocker

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Julius Blicher How are you surfing on that board? Are you angling and doing some cutbacks and carves yet?

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

A bigsurf 6,7 volume 38l

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Julius Blicher They are both sick... I like the Gremlin better. Not sure what size for you. What size board are you riding right now?

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

And is the sharpeye disco theather better than the pyzel gremlin.

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

What dims and thanks

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Julius Blicher yes

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

will i also be able to ride the sharpeye disco theater?

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

Thanks mann

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Julius Blicher The NEO Glass Performer XS sounds good.

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

I have fcs m5

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Julius Blicher What fins do you have now and what size?

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

what fins will you recommend to det board.

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

Thanks

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Julius Blicher I think the Gremlin is a good step down for you and you could go with less volume. I would drop your liters to roughly 28 depending how good your paddling is. 28 liters is still a lot for your weight but it will be easier to turn then what your surfing now. As you progress your liters could drop down to roughly 20.

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

Tykkelse= thickness

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

The board i have right nov. is a bigsurf 6'7, 20.75, tykkelse 2.40, volumen 38L, fins FCS M-5 thruster set

Julius Blicher - 5 years ago

This is the board I have right now. https://www.surfline.dk/surf-208/surfboards/rodebunken-surfboards/demo-bic-surf-6-7-tail-kick-shortboard

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Julius Blicher What are the DIMS of your board right now and who is the shaper?

k f - 5 years ago

Thank you for the great review! Can you please share how the gremlin compares with the CI neck beard?

I am a 5’9” and 160lb weekend warrior and surf mostly with a stock 5’9” 28.75L V3 stealth (thanks to your review), and I love its performance, but I really really lack paddle power (I am in poor shape and need all the help I can get from a board).

I tried a 29.5L CI neck beard and I love its paddle power and performance - I switched boards with a friend during a session and only got 3 waves before he asked it back, but it was enough to feel the speed and smoothness during a bottom turn and off-the-lip. The other 2 waves closed out. So I finally realized my need for more volume under the chest.

Great idea on the Pyzel series - it makes sense to have a quiver with boards sharing the same DNA, instead of completely different boards from multiples shapers. I stiil need to watch the other two videos...

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

k f I would try the Reactor Quad Rears with your F.T. For starters then maybe try other side fins later if you don’t like that combo.

k f - 5 years ago

Got a PU Phantom off the rack and had a blast in El Salvador from 2ft to 8ft. I love it, thank you! I used the FCS2 FT fins. For the gremlin, I am thinking on buying a tri-quad FCS2 Reactor or MB set, what do you think? Or should I try something else, to mix and match with the FT fins?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

k f I would go Electralite on the Gremlin and order it custom. Remember the EPS foam will give you roughly +0.5 liters more float compared to PU. I would order the Phantom in PU... it will go better when the surf gets a little bigger.

Come on down for a VIP session. That will be fun. Cheers

k f - 5 years ago

Hi Noel, I need more help please! Do you recommend any specific construction (PU, Electralite or EPS standard) for the gremlin and phantom? Same construction in both to keep similar overall feeling? Or maybe Electralite for extra spark in the gremlin and PU or EPS with string for the phantom?

I am also on the fence between the gremlin 5’6” or 5’5”. Since the gremlin paddles better than the neck beard, at the same volume, would the 5’5’ (28.2L) gremlin paddle much worse or the same as a 29.5L neck beard.

Or maybe I should get a custom 5’5” or 5’6” with 29L - there is no gremlin ready for sale in Brazil, thus it will be made to order anyway.

For the phantom, I am thinking in getting the same volume as the gremlin, although the former will have less foam under the chest than the latter, right?

Thanks again, your reviews are priceless! I spent a decade away from surfing, and returning and choosing equipment has been easier because of you and Aaron.

PS.: I will send you an email regarding the VIP session

k f - 5 years ago

Thanks again! You rock, keep ripping!!!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

k f I like the Gremlin better. These two boards do not compare with the Cymatic. The Cymatic is not a Groveler in my book... more of a Daily Driver for waves in the 3-7’ range. The Gremlin is more for waves in the 1-3’ range..... maybe 4’ max.

k f - 5 years ago

Thank you again! Performance wise which one do you prefer? Can they be compared with the cymatic, in performance and paddling, or the wave range is different?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

k f The Gremlin has a bit more foam under the chest compared to the NB so the Gremlin will paddle better.

Noelie chappell - 5 years ago

Could you do a lost quiver killer review?

Simone Ferrari - 5 years ago

great review Noel... as usual. Tank you! Is it proper to look for a little extra-litrage in a step-down board? For example my current daily driver is a C.I. Fred Rubble 5.9 x 24.5 lt in PU and I am wandering which would be the right PU Gremlin dimensions for me. The 5.3 x 26.1 lt, or the 5.2 x 24.8 lt? Consider that I am a 5.7 x 62 kg intermediate surfer (not a strong paddler).Thank you in advance, best

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Simone Ferrari I would go 5’3.... it’s still short enough so you can turn it quickly.

Gekyume - 5 years ago

Hey! I've been watching a lot of your reviews recently, and I'm just wondering which board would you recommend the most for airs? (what you've experienced). Because I'm kinda that guy who always goes for those air sections instead of getting those nice turns in lol. So far I've been looking at the Holy Grail, or the Pyzel Stubby Bastard, also the Air 17X looks nice. (Which would you recommend?)

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Supreme Patty The Air17X is really HP for smaller waves. It reminds of a QS small wave competitive board.

Gekyume - 5 years ago

So, out of all the boards you've ridden you recommend Air17X? I'm surprised you didn't say the Holy Grail (because of the shape of it which looks like it is maximized for speed from my perspective)

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Supreme Patty I think the Air17X would be good for airs. Very responsive and fast...

Noelie chappell - 5 years ago

Please can you review the rusty SD. I've been wondering whether to buy it or not but there are no good reviews online right now.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

NoelBear07 lol I have talked to the folks at Rusty about getting the SD for review and they have not sent one down. Sorry.... I did request it but I cannot make them send the boards.

Gregory R Little - 5 years ago

Hands down best surf products review channel. Boardshop UK has good analysis and point of view but not your on the water impressions that make all the difference. Great how you tie the board feel to the specific features. Really helps to understand how it might work or not work for my own needs. Also appreciate honesty and specifics about how and why boards don't work as well for you (Go Fish for example) so, again, I can evaluate whether or not it applies to what I want. Great job, keep it going. Subscribed and contributed to the Paypal site and encourage others to do the same.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Gregory R Little Cheers bro thank you for the kind words and support!!!

Kirk Reis - 5 years ago

Noel, your surfing looks top notch on that board!!! I'm looking at replacing my current groveler (5'6 firewire potatonator) and this Gremlin looks perfect! My go to SB for anything chest high and above is a 5'9 Hayden Love Buzz at 27.6 L, which I really like. I'm looking at the 5'6" Gremlin, but thinking it might be too much volume at 29.5 L....What do you think? Maybe custom dim and reduce thickness a bit... I'm 5'11 and 175 lbs....surf mostly avg. waves in Encinitas. Thanks!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Kirk Reis Good questions. I wanted to try the Electralite but they made me the Stringered EPS instead. I think the Electralite will go better and it will more durable.

Kirk Reis - 5 years ago

Hey Noel, I'm about to place a custom order for a 5'6 Gremlin and I'm trying to decide between the stingered EPS or Pyzel's Electralite stringerless construction. My understanding is they both have the same standard glassing schedule, but the Electralite has carbon strips and one layer of "S" cloth to make up for the lack of stringer. Out of curosity, why did you go with the wood stringer EPS construction on your board? Which, would you recommend? I'm a bit nervous when dropping a lot of $$$$ when I haven't heard of any Electralite experiences.

Kirk Reis - 5 years ago

Thanks Noel!!! I always enjoy your insightful reviews and awesome surfing! Keep'em coming!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Kirk Reis I agree the 29.5 might be a bit much... I would customize one and maybe go around 28.5. One whole liter will float roughly 10 more pounds. So if I weighed 170lbs then I would go to roughly 27 liters. Yo could even go 28 liters and be good... the foam under the chest is there on this board and it will paddle great.

Karl Jakobsson - 5 years ago

Hi Noel. Does it surf very similar to the JS nitro?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Karl Jakobsson This Gremlin paddles better and seems to have a little more tail rocker. The Gremlin is faster and has little more performance in the pocket.

Maurice Cureton - 5 years ago

Noel Completely off topic but I have a fin question. I’ve got a SciFi which I use Blackstix on. I’m getting a Cymatic, have you surfed this board. Any fin tips would be welcomed. Leaning towards A control series fin but would like to save money

Maurice Cureton - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews thanks a million. This last year my surfing has really surged and I think it’s been fin selection. Thanks again. Can’t wait to see the board review on the cymatic. I kept waiting for one before I purchased then I just decided to pull the teigger

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Maurice Cureton I have been riding the Cymatic for the last week or so. Really fun board and choosing fins for it is really fun too. So far I like the Cymatic as a Quad.... I have tested it with really upright fins (HS1)and the board is super loose and responsive. I also tested it with a medium Raked fin like JJF Large side fins and upright Quad rears (HS1) and it tightened the board up a bit and goes mental. When the waves get a little bigger 4-8’ I will try the AM2 Quad for maximum hold and control. So it’s pretty simple... more raked fins equal more speed, control, (tighter board) and bigger carves. All this too say it’s really up to you and what your looking for. The Cymatic is legit in my book and fin testing in this board is a blast.... you can really feel the difference in each fin set up.

Adrian Hawke - 5 years ago

Fair play to you...I echo all the positive comments on your reviews...my question is why would you get a Gremlin instead of a Psycho Killer, if I was surfing just one board? Up to head high. Cheers aid

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Adrian Hawke The Psycho Killer Really starts to excel in waves that is head high up to 6’. The Gremlin excels in 1-4’ surf. Really no comparison on these two boards. The Psycho Killer is more of a daily driver (easy to ride HPSB) and the Gremlin is a true Groveler.

joe Dirt - 5 years ago

Thanks, great review for the thew hole Pyzel Quiver

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Travis Moheit - 5 years ago

Gremlin vs Uber Driver for southern california (san diego)?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Travis Moheit Gremlin

Meloosh Barrel - 5 years ago

Love these videos, keep up the awesome work yewww! If you had to choose a board for average conditions on the east coast of florida, what would you choose? (typically 2-4ft not as punchy as california)

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Meloosh Barrel CI Rocket Wide, Gremlin, Phantom, Holy Grail, PJHP...

Jesus Obeso - 5 years ago

I surf a 6’1 Monsta 6 28L, I surf at hb, I’m 6’0 and weigh 175lbs, I was able to catch waves with the monsta 6 but pretty often the waves would just pass underneath me, would you recommend this board for me, and what size would you recommend?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Jesus Obeso The Phantom has a bigger wave range 2-6’+ and the Gremlin 1-4’. Your call... what wave sizes do you surf more and do you need a Groveler or a Daily Driver.

Jesus Obeso - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews for surfing waves in Huntington Beach which board would you recommend i get,this one, or the phantom?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Jesus Obeso I would go with roughly the same liters give or take a little. I would go with the stock 5’6” at 29.5 liters because your tall. I think the 5’5” will work too but it might feel a bit too loose.

Jack O'Connor - 5 years ago

hi noel, im thinking of grabbing a gremlin as it would suit the waves i ride and they look sick,
im 5'9 , 77kg and an intermediate surfer, looking to improve on my turns/manoeuvres.
i currently riding a board which is 30lts but i think i need something more buoyant.
what dims would you recommend for me,
cheers!!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Jack O'Connor How about the Stock 5’8”?

Amit Rattenbach - 5 years ago

great review! love it!
all your reviews and videos are super helpful Noel!

i'm considering a Gremlin model to be my first "official" legit thruster board.

i have a 5.7 go fish
and a 5.10 haden plunder.
i surf them both pretty well.

i'm 5.8ft weight 78kg (176lb)
would you recommend the Gremlin as a first thruster?
in what dims?

thanks man!
viva el surf

Amit Rattenbach - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews thank you Mister
keep doing what you're doing...

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Amit Rattenbach I would say the 5’11 Phantom is a good start.

Amit Rattenbach - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews i see what you mean...
in case of a Phantom, what dims you reccomend considering my weight/height/surf level/first thruster?
thanks Noel!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Amit Rattenbach I am think the 5’8” Gremlin would be similar to your Go Fish. Remember the Gremlin is a small wave board.... it will be super fun and draw completely different lines compares to your other boards. A True Thruster would be more like the Pyzel Phantom....

Christopher Magcamit - 5 years ago

You mentioned that you use the same fins for the Ghost, Phantom, and Gremlin in order to distinguish unique features between the boards. But, shouldn't you use fins according to the conditions of the waves? I'd imagine that , for future fins, a speed generating fin with a higher fin rating (6 and over) was designed to be used in smaller waves. It makes me wonder if the reason why tech flex fins felt dead under your feet was also because of the conditions (in addition to the use of polyester resin as mentioned in the video, great insight btw). Your thoughts?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Christopher Magcamit I used the JJF and HS Quad rears in all three boards to stay consistent for testing. On the other hand you are correct... normally I would have used a speed generating fin on the Gremlin, Maybe a middle ride number like Honeycomb on the Phantom & Ghost, and control series fins on the Ghost in bigger surf. I just took it a different direction because all three models have the Ghost DNA. I bet the Gremlin and Phantom would be even faster with the speed generating fins. Crazy fun bro....

Killa Swish - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews, thank now I'm going to cancel my order of PJ HP I'm switching to grimlim, this stick would rock the cloud 9 soon...

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Killa Swish Both boards are epic and you will be stoked on both. I like the Gremlin a little better.... more speed and paddles a little better too. I think the Gremlin goes rail to rail a little better too. Both boards grovel very well.

Ryan The Rock - 5 years ago

Great review Noel as usual...my personal view is that out of these three boards you surfed the best on the Phantom...looks like you found a magic carpet in this board.

ronald roodhart - 5 years ago

can you do a review off the stubby bastard ????

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

ronald roodhart I would love to ride the Stubby Bastard in the Firewire Tech.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

ronald roodhart I will put in the request!!!

prozacRules - 5 years ago

You don’t make it easy for my bank account! CI vs Pyzel has been a toss up for a while. Throw in the slater quiver and we’ll....I give up ;)

prozacRules - 5 years ago

Is it me or did some of those bottom turns look a bit shakey?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

prozacRules Yes, and I mentioned that in the review.... when the waves get a little bigger I mentioned a few things it was doing and that was one of them.

Christian69James - 5 years ago

Another great review Noel...ripping!! Yew

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Christian69James Cheers

Kapukataumahaka Ōwheo - 5 years ago

Also, the dims for the Gremlin you rode differ between the text displayed within your video (5'4") and the text displayed your on webpage/youtube description (5'7"). Which of these two dims was the Gremlin you rode in this video? I guess the 5'7" was a typo but perhaps not.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Kapukataumahaka Ōwheo Good catch bro.. thanks for looking out. The DIMS on in the review are correct and I changed the ones in the description. The Correct DIMS are 5’4” x 19.25 x 2.31 Liters 26.35. I think the other DIMS were confused with the Phantom. Thanks!

Kapukataumahaka Ōwheo - 5 years ago

Hi Noel, you were ripping on this board! How does it compare to the CI Rocket Wide? Would appreciate your analysis.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Kapukataumahaka Ōwheo Both boards are next level small wave shredders!! The Gremlin is a tad faster, better paddler, and easier to surf. The RW can do tighter turns in the pocket and feels a little more responsive in 1-2’ surf.

Ken Kohncke - 5 years ago

Thanks for another awesome review Noel, and thanks to Aaron for the wonderful camera work. As you stated, those 3 Pyzel boards look the goods as a 3 board quiver for sure. I will certainly be looking at a Gremlin and a Phantom in the future.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Ken Kohncke Stoked you like the review and Aarron is the man!!! Cheers

X -MAN X MAN - 5 years ago

Great review..do you think u will do the js bkack box2 soon?

X -MAN X MAN - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews thanks man.best show

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Erezdekel Erez123123 I have been asking the folks at JS for it for months now. You and a bunch of others have requested that board for review but I have heard nothing from JS. Sorry... hang in there.

William Russell - 5 years ago

Gremlin vs rocket wide???

Yaniv Zimmerman - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews Thanks allot Noel !

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Yaniv Zimmerman Just ask for a stock glass job in PU or EPS. The Cymatic I got is 5’3”. We will see how it goes....

Yaniv Zimmerman - 5 years ago

Yaniv Zimmerman: Noel, thanks for superb and consistent reviews!
I was waiting for this review and comparison to the Rocket wide! For me you do look faster with a better glide and rail to rails faster turns on the Gremlin. I was actually surprised.
What can we request Pyzel factory when ordering an Epoxy one if we want it more durable? Is it like a PU when asking a thicker layer?
** Can’t wait for the Cymatic review as a board between the Gremlin and a Ghost. Yes it may change the stance a bit yet still wondering as for the expected wide range of the Cymaic. Most shops recommend it with similar length to the regular dally driver yet I tend to think it is a mistake. To my experience it felt like a longer board and we should keep it shorter as Tomo recommends. I reduced 3 inch yet didn’t test yet. Cheers.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

William Russell Dang.... that’s a hard one. The Gremlin paddles better and it’s more user friendly but I think the RW can do tighter turns in the pocket. The Gremlin is a bit faster too. I’m torn... if you get either of these two Small wave boards you will be stoked. Cheers

-SpyGuy- - 5 years ago

if noel reviewed a snapped wavestorm he would still rip it

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

~~SpyGuy~~ Classic... I suck on soft tops... ha

Ardy Aryan - 5 years ago

such a fun review to watch, you rock Noel \m/

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Ardy Aryan yewww

Michael Deaton - 5 years ago

Great surfing as always!! Wondering if any chance of doing a Sharp Eye Disco Cheater, love all the Disco models but not much feedback on this model. Thanks!!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Michael Deaton I love the Disco Cheater.. it was a favorite of mine for 2017. Check out the review when get a chance.

bodhi tree - 5 years ago

Holy moly, you were flying to every section on this board. How does it compare to the CI sampler?

JorgeAndresCoppiano. - 5 years ago

Just the question I was about to ask! Hahah greaaat review Noel! Thank you very much man! Hope you had a Merry Christmas, and have a wonderful Year!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

bodhi tree The Sampler and Gremlin is a good comparison. They are both very fast but I think the Gremlin is a better paddler and has a little more traction off the bottom. The Gremlin might have a little more tail rocker.

Maurice Cureton - 5 years ago

Noel thanks for the review. I hope they release this board to Firewire construction. It reminds me of the Average Joe from CI. Which was my favorite board, but the stock construction for a 700 board was not great. Ive had my firewire Quiver for years and still has pop and life, though I still miss my Average Joe!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Karl Jakobsson Thanks for this information!

Karl Jakobsson - 5 years ago

Maurice Cureton pyzel and firewire collaboration is discontinued. Stubby bastard was the last Pyzel board made by FW and there will be no more firewire pyzel models.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Maurice Cureton Stoked you like this review. I had a Joe and it was a fun board... a bit of a cruiser for me but very user friendly and made small waves fun.

Blade Runner - 5 years ago

Great reveiw,; what make the review awesome, is the section where you do a waves-surf analysis, that's awesome, don't stop doing this, it's a great plus we don't find in other channels, your channel is the best and will be saw decades to come, as a reference ! great job Noel. hope to see some videos for tips and techniques, please !! for intermediate to advanced surfers soon, thanks, you are the best Noel ! cheers

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Blade Runner Yewww! Thanks for the kind words. Glad you like our show.

IzandEva Inmyheart - 5 years ago

I like the way you surf on pyzels. Good transitions but also projection

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

IzandEva Inmyheart Ceers!! All 3 Boards felt great.

christian reece - 5 years ago

Noel, what would you rate your level of surfing ?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

christian reece I think there is 5 levels.... I would classify myself in the Expert range.
Beginner
Intermediate
Advanced
Expert
Professional

Matt J - 5 years ago

Hey Noel, I was wondering your thoughts on the best model for a small wave contest board. I usually ride CI boards but I’m all ears to whatever you suggest. Thanks, and keep up the great vids!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Matt J The Fever is epic!!! One of my favorite HPSB.

Matt J - 5 years ago

Thanks for the feedback guys! I’m kinda leaning towards a Fever as CI is easier to come by where I live but I’ll definitely check the other boards out as well

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Matt Levy The Monsta Box in HYFY is epic... stoked it’s working out for you. Thanks for posting your experience with that board and construction. Now go win some heats bro...

Matt Levy - 5 years ago

Sorry to butt in but you recommended the Js mosta Box to me and I got it in Epoxy/ their hyfi tech and I definitely think it would be great for contests. I haven't ridden it in contest yet but i've noticed how much better i've been surfing recently (in all wave types) so I would definitely recommend it. By the way thanks so much for the recommendation Noel!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Matt J Small wave contest boards... I would make a Fever in my Groveler DIMS 5’7” x 19 x 2 5/16. Or I would do a Pyzel Phantom, or Lost Driver.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Huw Evans Not too familiar with the Chilli boards at this time.

David Pham - 5 years ago

Noel, do you have a Slater Design Cymatic review in the future? Great breakdown on the Gremlin!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

David Pham Yewww! Stoked you found a nugget.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

David Pham Yewwww!!! Stoked you found a nugget.

David Pham - 5 years ago

Stoked. Picked up a SKX after your review and it's right on par with everything you said. Love it.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

David Pham Yes... just got a couple Cymatics. Review dropping soon...

Jamie Ryan - 5 years ago

Noel, You were flying on that one right with the triple floater. that board is a jet.

Jamie Ryan - 5 years ago

happens to the best of us. still killed it out there.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

James Ryan Agreed.... can’t believe I fell on that floater.

Tosh Jaoudi - 5 years ago

Also, have you heard of the Stacey roach? I was lucky enough to get a board model called the RAB3 and it is magical. The roach is based off of it. If possible, maybe contact Stacey and see what they have to say. Keep up with these awesome reviews!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Tosh Jaoudi I have talked to the folks at Stacey and their boards look good. Maybe in the near future. Cheers

pieter van Campenhout - 5 years ago

Great review, thanks!! I consider myself a beginner/lower intermediate, 6.1 ft, 83 kg

My pop-up , down the Line and begin of the Bottom turn is Solid, but combining top turn into more Bottom turns is what i AM improving now! My rides are short!

I consider to buy a gremlin 6.4 (almost 41 liter) or a CI rocket wide 6.3 (43 liters) or a pukas el loco (44 liters) , what do hou advice in the stage of learning where i am now? And do i need more length in the board or shorter board en more volume in this stage? So much questions! :)

Thanks for helping out!

Karl Jakobsson - 5 years ago

pieter van Campenhout im a very poor surfer myself so talk from own experience :) experimented with lots of boards but keep coming back to pretty standard shortboard shapes. Not sure how your waves look like but my local spots tend to be rather fast even when it’s small. Find that very short / wide boards don’t work well unless you have a slower point break or it’s on high tide and rare slow conditions on your beach break. I’m 85kg and 31l seems to be spot on. Less volume and I’ll struggle getting speed on small waves , more volume does not seem to help much catching waves and sometimes even makes it more difficult. My theory is that at lower (or normal) volume you use your upper body pivot to just push the board down the face at the right spot. Too much volume and you are dependent on “gliding” into the wave rather then using your weight to push it down. This is great for longboards that glide due to length but horrible for short boards that you have to also push down the wave just as it breaks. Other issues with to much volume on a shortboard is that you will intuitively try to surf it like a mal, meaning trying trimming and pushing on the overvolumed nose down rather then more easily driving it from the tail.hope this helps!

pieter van Campenhout - 5 years ago

Karl Jakobsson

Super thanks for your info! I need to say that i am definitely not a good surfer, more beginner then lower intermediate (20 sessions a year, 2 trips a year) surfing for 5 years ! I came from a 7.7 , then i ride a 7s superfish 2 6.6! Then a mate made me a board (local shaper, his 5th board ever made) i surfed it but it is to Thick! My down the Line and pop up is ok (even in 1.5 tot 2 m) but i have really diffeculty performing good Bottom turns to Stay in the pocket, 9/10 i end up in the White water, so i set my turn to late, i need to work on my technique to do proper turns and i want to Stay in the pocket longer so my time on the wave is longer! I need to say that i live in the Netherlands with 1.5 max!

I think is that i made the mistake to go to early shorter so i am struggling to make more progression! So that's the reason i consider going longer again!

I am reading articles forvweeks now ending up with volume calculators advising me 33 liter to 57 liters? I am confused

After reading this more specified info, what do you think Karl!

I really appreciate your assistence guys!

Karl Jakobsson - 5 years ago

I disagree. If you are already going down the line and catching waves a board that big (40+l) will cause you a lot of grief. Not only does it not really paddle that much better, if even marginally (especially if you just go thick and wide), it will not survive steep drops as you will struggle to bury the rail. The extra volume for beginners is a great advice if you stick to funboards or mals, but an overly oversized shortboard is super difficult to surf and will mess with your foot placement and stance. Just my 2cents! Try 31-34l at your weight if you are lower intermediate.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

I think the 6’4” Gremlin will go good for you. Easy to surf and paddles very good!

Tosh Jaoudi - 5 years ago

So this or the puddle jumper hp? I’m looking for a board that turns well and keeps speed up in small waves. Not super worried about paddle power but that’s a great plus because you have said both paddle well.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Mathieu Revel Looks epic. Let me know how it goes...

Mathieu Revel - 5 years ago

Email sent. Hopefully you ll work something out ! I think i m going ahead with the CV2 in tech tree technology

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Mathieu Revel Cheers Matthieu

Mathieu Revel - 5 years ago

sure ! will do that today man

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Mathieu Revel Maybe a email introduction would be cool if your comfortable with that. My email is noel@surfnshow.com. Thanks

Mathieu Revel - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews i can give you the contact of Gary but i am based in australia so pretty easy to get in touch, i can give you his mail or phone number... he ships board to the US though quite often too

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Mathieu Revel I would be done for talking with them. If you know anyone over Marne you could introduce us.. if not then I will try to reach out. Cheers

Mathieu Revel - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews yeah apparently they are extremely fast with the special channel. Not too sure if they are not too old school maybe vs big brands which have so many variants to fit everyome s style !

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Mathieu Revel His boards look epic... I was just watching a clip of Rastovich shredding on them.

Mathieu Revel - 5 years ago

I d love you to review a board from a guy like Gary Mcneil ! that would be awsome to see you talking about a shaper like that VS big brands and see how you feel

Mathieu Revel - 5 years ago

ok ! pretty important point !

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Mathieu Revel When the board is going down the line and it is flat on the water and I want to do a turn the board turns over on its rail easy.

Mathieu Revel - 5 years ago

when you mean easier to get on rail, how does that translate when you surf it ?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Tosh Jaoudi True they both paddle good. I think the Gremlin is a little easier to surf and maybe a tad faster. I also think the Gremlin gets on rail easier.

Water Dog - 5 years ago

Owned a 6’1” Amigo. Overall good board and the few reviews/feedback you find are positive. Think Pyzel’s description is pretty accurate. It’s basically a short board with a little fuller dimensions. Rails pretty pulled in and rides like a shortboard. Better wave catching ability than most hpsp the same length. Closest thing to it that I’ve ridden would be a T Low. Still different feel, Amigo a little loser but both paddle similarly and same wave range.... stomach to several feet overhead.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

TheProsopopeia Sorry no opinion on the Amigo at this time. I have not tried it yet.