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gregg horner - 7 years ago

Very informative. I've never considered keeping males and females in the same tank.

Angie Camacho - 7 years ago

My future goal!!!

AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella - 7 years ago

+Angie Camacho hehe thanks ! I'll try make a video update on it

Mr. Purple - 7 years ago

I know this video means well but it's terrible advice, to everyone watching who believe they can put more bettas in their sparsely planted ten gallon. Yes it can be done, but should only be attempted by someone with experience and a very very large tank with many many plants.

The advice you're giving out in the comments as well isn't great. Cichlids are territorial yes but they also coexist in the wild. Betta fish in the wild do not socialize with each other and they won't socialize with each other in a tank. All you're doing is giving them unwanted stress. If you give them enrichment and even tankmates in other forms as well as lots of attention they won't be lonely. But adding another betta isn't the best course of action. Even adding tankmates is risky, they are solitary fish, most likely depending on your betta, they're fine alone.

Females bettas are also not all peaceful you can't expect to keep 2 in a tank with a male betta and expect them to get along.

This tank is an exception not the rule,

Patricia Hamilton - 7 years ago

My female bettas live together in a 20 gallon planted tank but all of my males are separated. They live in 10 gallon tanks and thats the only way I'll keep them.Separate.

sebastian stolz - 7 years ago

BUT YOU see it goes fine without experience

Samwise - 7 years ago

Logan Lab I feel so bad for your fish. Just because nothing has physically happened does not mean they are not stressed. That's a great size tank, but no tank is large enough to house bettas together.

Logan Lab - 7 years ago

i have a 6 foot (125 gallon) 9 females and 3 males. no issues even on day 1.

Princess Lunchbox - 7 years ago

FishGuyGobies That is actually erroneous. Most wild bettas can easily be housed together with almost no aggression. I have many friends with wilds and have seen this first hand. They are far more placid than splendens. Breeding the aggression out of splendens is tricky because the fish will often only spawn after the pair has battered each other up quite a bit. The aggression is part of spawning. The males I have had that were less aggressive were also harder if not nearly impossible to breed. The females instinctually want a more aggressive male. It depends on the trait and the fish. I think you need to research bettas more because to state that you would say domestics are less aggressive and territorial than wilds (which you say counterpart as though there is only one type of wild betta, there's actually 72 fun fact) tells me you have no foundation to what you're saying as that is unequivocally false and actually a bit laughable.

Samwise - 7 years ago

FishGuyGobies it's true they are now bred for appearance mostly, but the generations of breeding those aggressive fish to pick out the pretty aggressive fish did not get rid of aggression. They haven't been bred for being less aggressive, just appearance, and aggression is still a part of them.

FishGuyGobies - 7 years ago

Samwise betta splendens has also been commercially bred generations upon generations as a pet, and to be "pretty", and there has not been any breeding bettas for aggressiveness and fighting traits for generations. If anything, I would say these bettas, which are most likely sourced from big commercial fish farms, are less aggressive and terretorial than their wild counterparts. Traits can in fact be bred out of the fish if one trait is focused on while others are ignored in breeding.

Samwise - 7 years ago

Wild betta splendens =/= betta splendens (domesticated). Some wild betta species do coexist. Betta splendens, a domesticated breed, bred through centuries for fish fighting and aggression, cannot coexist. They're too aggressive. There is absolutely no benefit to the bettas by co-inhabiting them, it's a huge risk with the only reward being your ego. Why put them through that when you can get a schooling species instead?

FishGuyGobies - 7 years ago

Mr. Purple Of course bettas coexist in the wild... where are you getting your information from? I think this is a very good and correct video on keeping bettas together, if you actually knew the correct facts you would agree with me. betta splendens in particular do coexist together and not in isolated puddles alone like many would think. Most of the time they inhabit slow moving shallow swamps, ponds or lakes. The males and females establish terretories. Unlike some fish like the dovii cichlid, which can have huge terretories and can be very difficult to have with other fish in an aquarium it's much easier to accommodate bettas terretorial needs in a home aquarium. The only thing I do find wrong about this video is what she said about the 10g tank. I personally wouldn't keep any bettas, of any sex together in anything less than a 40 gallon breeder. Now cosidering most seasoned American cichlid keepers will have multiple 125 gallon aquariums in their household housing assorted cichlids, I don't think a 55 gallon planted betta splendens community would be too difficult, or even a 75-125g. Basically my point is, this video is mostly valid and a good example of a successful betta community.

Jules Askalotl - 7 years ago

my dream is to get a guitar smaragdina. I don't know how high the prices will go at the auction but I'm hoping to get some there. I think it would be cool to have some of the rarer types. I have been keeping my eye out for cheap wild bettas online but not many people sell them.

Princess Lunchbox - 7 years ago

I also started my breeding program and grew up in VT. Not many wild betta enthusiasts there!

Princess Lunchbox - 7 years ago

Jules Askalotl Omg. So jealous!! Wilds are so effing cool! So different from splendens. I've wanted a trio of domestic breed rubras for years. I've studied the many variations of wilds for years and years, but never had the privilege of working with them.

Jules Askalotl - 7 years ago

yay i can't wait!!!! I am going to a meeting about wild betta types next month and they may have some for auction afterwards. I seriously am excited!

Princess Lunchbox - 7 years ago

Jules Askalotl Ballsy! Commenting on an old heated topic of debate! Awwwwww girl, I am only smart when it comes to bettas! I wish I was more well versed with anything else, but I'm a chef who breeds bettas. So I know food and bettas hahaha! Videos are coming soon! Will let you know when I have some up!

Jules Askalotl - 7 years ago

princess lunchbox is really smart with fish. I wish you'd upload some videos princess!!! I'd love to see your collection!!!

Samwise - 7 years ago

Princess Lunchbox I appreciate you being open as well. I agree though, this tank is definitely a disaster regardless of my stance on sororities.

Princess Lunchbox - 7 years ago

Samwise And I think that is a completely fair and also reasonable standpoint to have. My only point was that this setup isn't on the same level as a sorority. This setup is an absolute recipe for disaster whereas a sorority is risky, but can be done responsibly by someone with experience. I appreciate that you're not so set in your opinion that you can't see where others are coming from. It's refreshing and I respect that.

Samwise - 7 years ago

Princess Lunchbox I just think they're unethical, but I see your point. But I've heard way too many horror stories of sororities and seen even the most perfect, well-thoughtout setups fall apart. And I've seen fish in sororities, who may seem fine, but when they were removed they brightened up and got so much healthier. Maybe it can work for some, but personally I think it's a big risk, one that risks their lives, and a risk I'm not willing to take.

Know Hype - 7 years ago

Princess Lunchbox whether or not they were developed from the same lines is not in dispute at least not by me. I have not exclaimed myself to be experienced in the hobby although I am not totally new. I could easily claim to have 20 years in the hobby if I'd wanted to this is YouTube after all where people talk a lot and show little. I believe people are responsible for their own actions and so let them carry their own guilt for their actions not carry it for them. So yes I will share and leave people to make up their own minds as to what to do or not do with the information. Once again have a beautiful day.

Princess Lunchbox - 7 years ago

Know Hype just so you know both fighter and show were developed from the same lines. Show bettas were developed much later and the aggression still carries through. I've been breeding a very long time and back in the day tried this with fish that were raised together. It went fine until 8 months into the tank one of the males decided he had enough and killed all but one female. This is not something that these fish are ment to do and a stressed fish very well will breed. I am basing my opinion on not just personal experiences and watching others try and fail but also a deep understanding of these fish. I've spent over half my life keeping, breeding and studying betta splendens. I am not coming from a place of unfounded opinion, I am coming from one of experience. As for posting informative content on channels I'd call this more misinformation than anything else. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should. Go ahead and share this information but know that most attempts at this will lead to injured, dead or stressed fish and that is on the person spreading misinformation on a topic they're new to.

Know Hype - 7 years ago

Princess Lunchbox at no point did I say their natural habitat was a puddle and I know that lines were developed for fighting, just as these lines were developed for show the two lines through selective breeding are not the same. Just as the outcome of them being placed in this habitat is not the same. These fish may have the genetics but they do not share the same drives as those bred to compete in fights. Hence the success evidenced, I do not doubt If you take these same fish put them in too small a tank without adequate cover and they will be forced into fight mode but they are not and so display move on it is not constant and if anything attracts the females for breeding rights. If they were stressed i doubt breeding would occur. I cannot vouch for the experience of any commenting other than my own (limited) and that of the owner of this channel. I have not checked to see if you have any informative content posted. Either way I'm not trying to change your opinion or any that share your opinion. Just as I am not about to change mine, I will like, sub and share a very informative video showing a different side to another much maligned species of fish. Have a beautiful day.

Princess Lunchbox - 7 years ago

Know Hype They don't live together in rice puddles. That is wild types and it isn't even actually the small areas many think it is. Splendens were developed by people to fight. This setup is asking for disaster and that's what all the experienced keepers here are saying. It can be done but isn't good for the fish. It's stressful on the fish and this woman has made it work for now. I agree there are alot of wives tales about bettas this isn't one of them. Betta splendens were bred to fight the males, this is asking the fish to go against over 600 years of what they were bred to do.

Know Hype - 7 years ago

Mr. Purple this is not the first time I have seen this type of set up so I do not believe it is an exception. How many male and female betta do you believe occupy a rice paddy. After seeing this video and the comments I have no urge to replicate with my level of experience. However it does give something to aim for, if going down this route is your choice. I am not sniping at you but until you (or anyone) have tried it and given evidence of it not working as this woman has (working) under said conditions, we should believe what our eyes see. During my short time in the hobby I have found there are too many what amount to be old wives tales and too many who perpetuate them without ever trying another way.

Princess Lunchbox - 7 years ago

Mr. Purple In my personal experiences I've found that females kept in groups their entire lives tend to be healthier and live longer and they are definitely more active. I totally agree with you and believe I have noticed you in betta video comments before and found myself agreeing with your stance then as well. You obviously know what you're talking about. I was more addressing Samwise and his hatred of sororities.

Mr. Purple - 7 years ago

Princess Lunchbox that's the reason I argued that saying 2 females and a male is wrong. Ignoring the other (male) problem. The minimum for a sorority is 5 bettas and a 20 gallon long. You shouldn't expect two females to get along in a 5 gallon. Sororities on the other hand I'm okay-ish with. As long as a responsible fish keeper is taking proper care of them. But I just I don't see how it would benefit the fish.

Princess Lunchbox - 7 years ago

They were bred the same way but not housed the same into adulthood. That is the difference. Females can be just as if not more aggressive than males but that isn't usually the case which is why a sorority is for responsible, experienced fish keepers in my opinion.

Princess Lunchbox - 7 years ago

Samwise actually back when the splendens were first being developed the females were usually housed in large groups in ponds, tubs and basins. The nature in which they were kept when these fish were developed is what makes sororities possible and when done correctly are just fine. It does make sense when you start to research betta splenden development because that's how they were housed. Females together, males in small bottles

Samwise - 7 years ago

Princess Lunchbox Females are just as aggressive. You can't breed for aggression for fighting fish without both males and females. It makes no sense to assume that females are not aggressive when they have been bred the same exact way and share the same genetics. Sororities are wrong too.

Princess Lunchbox - 7 years ago

Samwise this is true and I totally agree with you, but exceptions can be made for females when done properly as they were not used for fighting but still have aggressive tendencies much like cichlids.

Samwise - 7 years ago

Mr. Purple I agree. This is an absolutely terrible setup and this will not work out well. They're posturing and nipping already and they're absolutely going to end up fighting. You should not be teaching viewers such inhumane care. This is how to end up with several dead bettas. They are separated for a reason. Betta splendens, the domesticated, have been bred for aggression for so long, they can NOT be housed together. They are territorial, aggressive, SOLITARY FISH.

FROG FAN - 7 years ago

Don't fall for this... I put four males with eight females in a heavy
planted 75 gallon aquarium with lots of hiding caves. The males manage to find
each other in the corners of the tank. Within two weeks I had males with
ripped up tails, one died. This is bull. They will find each other and
it will not be pretty. Sure if you have the money to replace them as
they die but some of us love them.... I wasted time and money on this
setup... Thanks....

Tyler Johnson - 7 years ago

nawww i wuv wittle betta fry ♡♡♡

AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella - 7 years ago

+Tyler Johnson thanks !

Izzy Reina - 7 years ago

This video helped me sooooo much!!! I have a 60 gallon tank and I have 3 males and 5 female. They have been doing great! Not one has gotten bitten and are so happy! Thank you so much!

AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella - 7 years ago

+Izzy Reina my pleasure ! Happy they doing well ! Let's put an end to betta bowls !

Cian - 7 years ago

Well I'm a little confused...I want a community like this too,but I'm afraid I don't have the skill to do so...anyways,great Video!

BayIsProbablyOkay - 7 years ago

then do a proper community, which would be ONE centerpiece betta then other fish that are compatible with a betta. i personally have a 10 gal with a double tail male betta, 5 neon tetras, and a golden rabbit snail. nobody is stressed or tries to fight and it’s absolutely gorgeous! the tetras cyan strip brings out my bettas cyan iridescence wonderfully and my rabbit snail is just so gosh darn cute!

Cian - 7 years ago

Johnny Newport Alfaro Well,yeah

Johnny Newport Alfaro - 7 years ago

Cian So pretty much you took they chance to obtain her tank by knowing her fails lol

Cian - 7 years ago

Johnny Newport Alfaro welp I'm more caring for the fish...All of her fish die in a span of a few weeks/months because she is convinced that no betta needs a heater or a filter (and it's not like it's tropical,it often is cold around here)

Johnny Newport Alfaro - 7 years ago

Cian Sharing is caring

Cian - 7 years ago

Johnny Newport Alfaro Well we'll see how it goes....I got mine cheaper because its from a friend so I'll have the money for more plants

Johnny Newport Alfaro - 7 years ago

Maybe we can both help each other out! I've just received my 55 inch aquarium today as well. Never planted one of this magnitude so this is an experience for me as well.

Cian - 7 years ago

Johnny Newport Alfaro Thanks! I will maybe try it with my next big tank coming in today.

Johnny Newport Alfaro - 7 years ago

Cian Start with they aqua scape plant as many plants as you can give them enough light that they'll be able to grow within 2-3 months and then introduce your bettas (:

John Nguyen - 7 years ago

2 males?!?! You should only put one! The two fish are showing agression, later or soon, the males will fight to the death! What's worse? Those are plakats

AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella - 7 years ago

+John Nguyen they cohabitante without injury.

Scott Believer - 7 years ago

Can 2 females live in a 29 gallon tank. ?

Scott Believer - 7 years ago

Someone told me they have 2 in their tank. Someone said 3 could live together. I do not doubt you. Just some tell me different.

david dior - 7 years ago

Colorful Fish minimum of 3, no less

Meredith - 7 years ago

Need more females... females will fight and kill each other. Think of them like African cichlids - in order to keep somewhat of peace you need to have as many as you can to spread out aggression. They create a hierarchy and if there are too few, the top ones will kill the bottom ones.. lots of incorrect information here.

Dale Ella Erica Zapanta - 7 years ago

Scott Danziger yah you can put 3 there..

Scott Believer - 7 years ago

What about 3 female in a 29 gallon planted tank.

Mr. Purple - 7 years ago

AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella just because they're living together peacefully now doesn't mean it will remain that way especially once they reach maturity. (if the bettas haven't already) having two bettas in a 5 gallon is extremely risky period. It's most likely not a good situation for the fish either.

AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella - 7 years ago

Mr. Purple yes and no. Like it said, it's always adaptation period and it will depend on the betta. A client of mine got literally a male and a female living together in a 5 gallon heavily planted tank. Zero problems. Perhaps because I gave her those fish and they were kept in social environment all their upbringing.

Scott Believer - 7 years ago

I am creating a heavily planted 29 gallon aquarium. Plants are growing now. Do not want many fish in it . i want shrimp and a clean up force. Yet i would like a few female bettas but not 5 . People tell me they may not fight. Otherwise I will just get 1 and a few other species.

Mr. Purple - 7 years ago

Scott Danziger no not only 2 females, there has to be at least 5 for a sorority which you seem to want, otherwise yes they will most likely fight. A sorority is pretty risky and it's not something someone without much experience should attempt. Do lots of research and make sure you're ready especially if things go bad .

Mr. Purple - 7 years ago

david dior that's not true and not something you should follow. It's a 2.5 gallon minimum for a betta.

david dior - 7 years ago

Dale Ella Erica Zapanta actually.... (i might get a lot of hate by saying this)

fluval aquatics and every lfs reccomend a minimum of 2 litres ( 1/2 gallon) for every single bettas, although i do reccomend 1 gallon or more for every betta

Dale Ella Erica Zapanta - 7 years ago

Scott Danziger the size that a betta's need is a 2.5 gallon tank,so if you get a 5 gallon tank you can put 2 male bettas In their,i recommend getting a divider to divide the tank into two,but if you put females In it a divider is not needed.

david dior - 7 years ago

Scott Danziger most of the time they wont. my LFS in indonesia put 15 female bettas in a 3 gal and they didnt even fight ( not kidding)

Scott Believer - 7 years ago

will 3 be ok . Will they fight? must I have 5 ?

david dior - 7 years ago

Scott Danziger dont put only 2, ur better off with 3 or more females

Scott Believer - 7 years ago

What if you only want 2 or 3 will they fight ?

david dior - 7 years ago

Scott Danziger its better to get more than 2 female bettas, especially because they're living in a tank mire than 10 gallons. i've seen people get 20+ females in their 25 gallon and all of the bettas are thriving

Scott Believer - 7 years ago

Would 3 be better than 2 ? females in a 29 gal ?

AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella - 7 years ago

Scott Danziger yes of course. My client manages to keep male and female in a heavily planted 5 gallon

Eric Lind - 7 years ago

Amazing you managed this. Difficult enough to build just a sorority. If bettas were friendlier towards one another, people would buy schools of them and they wouldn't have to stay in the cups at the store.

AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella - 7 years ago

+Eric Lind thanks :)

百合•希望 - 7 years ago

Love your awesome bettas, ESP their colours❣️❣️Wish I can have your babies. 7 of them to be exact. I never seen any bettas this gorgeous. ＧＯＤ bless and ＳＨＡＢＢＡＴ♥︎ＳＨＡＬＯＭ

AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella - 7 years ago

+百合•希望 thank you !

Forever and ever I swear! - 7 years ago

Am gonna try put all the different coloured males together in a large tank. Would be so beautiful. I been a betta fan for so many years yet i've never tried this before. I heard from experienced fish dealers it can be done but there'll be tattered fins..

Mr. Purple - 7 years ago

Forever and ever I swear! I hope then you have a tank that's heavily planted and spans many feet.

Mike Cose - 7 years ago

You Brazilian?

Mike Cose - 7 years ago

what substrate did you use in this tank?

theangstyvegan - 7 years ago

Can you tell me what those plants are at the top of your tank? I think I'd like to get some of that for my tank. It looks really nice.

AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella - 7 years ago

Oh I wish i knew, its like a plant i have since 10 year in all my tanks, and give to every client hehe... i dont even know its name ! but its a soft leaf plant that the top turns red/pink with lots of light.

Steven Plays - 7 years ago

I wish I had your friendly bettas

Done Deal Records - 7 years ago

Would a 20 gallon work ?

rodgify - 7 years ago

Wow I'm amaze! I have my own sorority of 3 females. I'm jealous of your set up! Well done! Would you mind if I ask what's the name of that floating plants you have? And when you started this group of bettas, did you put them all together? Or one at a time? How young were they when you first got them?

Raikiri Furude Tachibana - 7 years ago

I might put 1 male and 3 female in a 5 gallon tank or is it too risky? If it is ill just change it to a bigger tank.

Raikiri Furude Tachibana - 7 years ago

I got 4 female bettas with a couple of cardinal tetra in a 13 gallon tank with a lot of plants. They all live peacefully, no nipping, some flaring but for 3 seconds. I needed to move one betta out because it was fighting with everyone and everything including my sponge filter...... 0_0;; I moved her in a 4 gallon solo tank. Thanks for the advise.

Mr. Purple - 7 years ago

Raikiri Furude Tachibana don't put any females in your 5 gallon. It's too small for multiple bettas. Just get one betta. A betta sorority (at least 5 females in a 20 gallon long+ tank) is possible but should only be done if you have a good amount of experience and are prepared and do lots of research but NO MULTIPLE BETTAS IN A 5 gallon

david dior - 7 years ago

Raikiri Furude Tachibana just put females, in my LFS they put 15 female bettas in a 3 gallon tank (im not kidding) and they are doing good. i dont reccomend doing that tho, just put 3 females in ur 5 gal

Steven Plays - 7 years ago

Raikiri Furude Tachibana - I think it's to small and not to mention not all bettas are friendly and are very territorial so I wouldn't recommend doing that but try doing it in a bigger tank.....

Newbie0n3 Playtime - 7 years ago

a new method that need to be use many betta n place it to the pond 5 mond later fry is every where

Captain Freddy - 7 years ago

I can't believe you are going to fry your fish! Buy a can of sardines...

Lily - 7 years ago

hi, I put a guppy in my 3 or 4 gallon bowl with one male betta today. Is this a good idea?

YesImRachel - 7 years ago

+Lily you should not have your guppies in a bowl. They need a minimum of 15 gallons.

Lily - 7 years ago

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think my betta is a little too territorial, and likes his plants to himself lol...... I put the guppy in another bowl, and got him a friend :)

Heavy Metal Lion - 7 years ago

guppies should be in groups of 3 or more. they are social fish. get them a 10g tank and then try introducing the betta once they grow a little.

Lily - 7 years ago

no, not dead, alive and happy!....... in a different bowl, with another guppy.......

dragomxsoldier - 7 years ago

well I have one like that and the guppy is fine no fighting at all

Why am I like this - 7 years ago

Lily are your guppies dead by now?

AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella - 7 years ago

Nooooo hehe too small. Get a 10g minimum

Jannette Frost - 7 years ago

would putting 2-3 males in a planted 90 gal tank w/ a lot of live-bearers and about 10 females be fine?

WindexSniper - 7 years ago

Absolutely not. You are killing your fish if you do this.

Anthony Lee - 7 years ago

Jannette Frost yes but wow that's a lot of fish

neon loser - 7 years ago

If you want dead fish and torn up plants, then sure.

AquaZone Aquarium Services Mtl Izabella - 7 years ago

yeah heavily planted hehe

C Dee - 7 years ago

if heavily planted i would say yes