Angelfish and German Blue Ram Fish Room Tour with Master Breeder Dean

Dean is a master breeder who works with Angelfish and German Blue rams among lots of other species of fish. Angelfish, Super Red (10:10, 10:30, 25:02, 27:56, 32:55) Apistogramma, Agasizzi “Fire Red” (29:54) Apistogramma, Borelli (15:00, 30:53)) Apistogramma, Caucatoidies “Orange Flash” (16:00, 17:00, 28:38) Apistogramma Panduro (42:50) Aspidoras, Six Ray (3:57) Corydoras, Orange Laser (24:48) Corydoras, Panda (39:34) Corydoras, Sterbai (15:40) Crystal Shrimp, PRL (11:43) Discus, Pigeon Blood (1:00, 3:00) Kribensis, Lobe (37:43, 42:38) Kribensis, Niente/Yellow Form (16:30, 24:55) Pleco, Claro (17:36) Pleco, L333 (38:23) Pleco, Mega Clown (3:30) Pleco, Orinoco Angel (40:00) Pleco, Super Red Bristlenose (36:57) Pleco, Zebra (40:40) Rainbowfish, Dwarf Neon (7:58, 8:54) Rainbowfish, Red Laser (5:30, 43:12) Rams, Electric Blue (31:42, 35:03) Rams, German Blue (10:54, 24:40, 27:21, 31:42, 36:44, 41:18) Tanks are all on racks, with sponge filters, easy-to read labels, and dimmer-controlled Finnex Stingray LED lighting. Rack #1 has six 20H tanks. In the middle are two pairs of Pigeon Blood Discus kept at 84 degrees. On the lower shelf you have 3 month old discus fry and some Mega Clown Plecos (L340) breeding in a custom slate cave. And next to that is a colony of Aspidoras Pauciradiatus. On the top row there are Melanotaenia sp. (Wapoga Red Laser Rainbowfish) and Melanotaenia Praecox (Neon Dwarf Rainbowfish) that spawn regularly on a yarn mop. Rack #2 is mostly smaller tanks to grow out fry. These 10g tanks run Mattenfilters and get 50% water changes 2x a week to deal with the high bio-loads. Neon Rainbowfish fry and tiny baby angels can be kept over 100 to a tank, but as they mature they get separated by size down into smaller groups. Baby German Blue Rams are absolutely adorable, as perfect little miniatures of the adults. Dean also has a growing population of high-grade Crystal Red Shrimp. Sterbai Corydoras, female Apistogramma Caucatoides “Orange Flash”, Pelvicachromis Pulcher (kribensis, Ninte form), and a mating pair of apistos round out the middle shelf. On the bottom shelf you see what I like to call a “junk drawer” tank, with the odds and ends that really didn’t fit someone where else. Also a large group of F1 Apistogramma Borelli. After climbing up on a ladder, we can see the 4th level tank, which house the True Dwarf Bristlenose Claro Plecos. Next stop in our fish room tour is Rack #3, which is actually a repurposed baking rack! On the lowest shelf is Dean’s “Fry System”, a 20L adapted to raise eggs and newly hatched fry in little trays. Between the TV dinner trays, pantyhose, zip ties, rigid airline tubing, and pins you can tell there’s a lot of ingenuity in this setup. German Blue Rams, Orange Laser Corydoras, Kribensis and Angels all have trays. Some GBR hang in a breeder box on the side. Angelfish eggs are in a Methylene Blue bath to help minimize fungus. Moving up you have a shelf full of Apistos, a breeding tank of Orange Flash, and an earlier spawn they are starting to pick on. Agassizi Fire Reds and wild-caught Borellis. And on the top are more dwarf cichlids; electric blue and German blue rams, and some extra male apistos. Along the left side are divided 20H tanks with two pairs super red angels. Dean is working to selectively breed the white out, and focus on a deep orange and black coloration. Next are a large group of Electric Blue rams growing out. This tank also has a pre-filter intake sponge. Dean is a big fan! Besides that are more juvenile German Blues, you can really see how different the two strains are when they’re side by side like this. Below are Pelvicachromis Taeniatus "Lobe", Hypancistrus sp. (L333s), and Corydoras Panda. Up top is a rare treat, and entire colony of Hypancistrus Zebra (Zebra Plecos) and rams that have just laid eggs (you can even see her breeding tube is still out.) You’ve also got Lobe Kribensis and Apisto Panduro. Dean hatches his own brine for part of his 3x daily feeding regimen. Also uses Micro worms and Vinegar eels in addition to dry foods. While still at the hatching/testing station you’ll also get to hear his acclimation and water testing philosophies. Finally we come to a bucket with enough valves and hoses to make your head spin. This is all part of Dean’s innovative water changing system. Two different diameter hoses provide options depending on how fast you want to drain tanks, and the rigid wand at the end helps suck up gunk. As water drains into the bucket a large pump runs it through a PVC tube up the wall, along the ceiling, and into the adjacent room where it ties in to a washing machine drain. I hope you enjoyed this Fish Room Tour. We will have more coming up in 2016. Don’t forget to like and subscribe! Too busy to watch the entire video, or maybe interested in just one specific species of fish? This quick index will tell you what fish had the spotlight when.

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Dean is a master breeder who works with Angelfish and German Blue rams among lots of other species of fish. Angelfish, Super Red (10:10, 10:30, 25:02, 27:56, 32:55) Apistogramma, Agasizzi “Fire Red” (29:54) Apistogramma, Borelli (15:00, 30:53)) Apistogramma, Caucatoidies “Orange Flash” (16:00, 17:00, 28:38) Apistogramma Panduro (42:50) Aspidoras, Six Ray (3:57) Corydoras, Orange Laser (24:48) Corydoras, Panda (39:34) Corydoras, Sterbai (15:40) Crystal Shrimp, PRL (11:43) Discus, Pigeon Blood (1:00, 3:00) Kribensis, Lobe (37:43, 42:38) Kribensis, Niente/Yellow Form (16:30, 24:55) Pleco, Claro (17:36) Pleco, L333 (38:23) Pleco, Mega Clown (3:30) Pleco, Orinoco Angel (40:00) Pleco, Super Red Bristlenose (36:57) Pleco, Zebra (40:40) Rainbowfish, Dwarf Neon (7:58, 8:54) Rainbowfish, Red Laser (5:30, 43:12) Rams, Electric Blue (31:42, 35:03) Rams, German Blue (10:54, 24:40, 27:21, 31:42, 36:44, 41:18) Tanks are all on racks, with sponge filters, easy-to read labels, and dimmer-controlled Finnex Stingray LED lighting. Rack #1 has six 20H tanks. In the middle are two pairs of Pigeon Blood Discus kept at 84 degrees. On the lower shelf you have 3 month old discus fry and some Mega Clown Plecos (L340) breeding in a custom slate cave. And next to that is a colony of Aspidoras Pauciradiatus. On the top row there are Melanotaenia sp. (Wapoga Red Laser Rainbowfish) and Melanotaenia Praecox (Neon Dwarf Rainbowfish) that spawn regularly on a yarn mop. Rack #2 is mostly smaller tanks to grow out fry. These 10g tanks run Mattenfilters and get 50% water changes 2x a week to deal with the high bio-loads. Neon Rainbowfish fry and tiny baby angels can be kept over 100 to a tank, but as they mature they get separated by size down into smaller groups. Baby German Blue Rams are absolutely adorable, as perfect little miniatures of the adults. Dean also has a growing population of high-grade Crystal Red Shrimp. Sterbai Corydoras, female Apistogramma Caucatoides “Orange Flash”, Pelvicachromis Pulcher (kribensis, Ninte form), and a mating pair of apistos round out the middle shelf. On the bottom shelf you see what I like to call a “junk drawer” tank, with the odds and ends that really didn’t fit someone where else. Also a large group of F1 Apistogramma Borelli. After climbing up on a ladder, we can see the 4th level tank, which house the True Dwarf Bristlenose Claro Plecos. Next stop in our fish room tour is Rack #3, which is actually a repurposed baking rack! On the lowest shelf is Dean’s “Fry System”, a 20L adapted to raise eggs and newly hatched fry in little trays. Between the TV dinner trays, pantyhose, zip ties, rigid airline tubing, and pins you can tell there’s a lot of ingenuity in this setup. German Blue Rams, Orange Laser Corydoras, Kribensis and Angels all have trays. Some GBR hang in a breeder box on the side. Angelfish eggs are in a Methylene Blue bath to help minimize fungus. Moving up you have a shelf full of Apistos, a breeding tank of Orange Flash, and an earlier spawn they are starting to pick on. Agassizi Fire Reds and wild-caught Borellis. And on the top are more dwarf cichlids; electric blue and German blue rams, and some extra male apistos. Along the left side are divided 20H tanks with two pairs super red angels. Dean is working to selectively breed the white out, and focus on a deep orange and black coloration. Next are a large group of Electric Blue rams growing out. This tank also has a pre-filter intake sponge. Dean is a big fan! Besides that are more juvenile German Blues, you can really see how different the two strains are when they’re side by side like this. Below are Pelvicachromis Taeniatus "Lobe", Hypancistrus sp. (L333s), and Corydoras Panda. Up top is a rare treat, and entire colony of Hypancistrus Zebra (Zebra Plecos) and rams that have just laid eggs (you can even see her breeding tube is still out.) You’ve also got Lobe Kribensis and Apisto Panduro. Dean hatches his own brine for part of his 3x daily feeding regimen. Also uses Micro worms and Vinegar eels in addition to dry foods. While still at the hatching/testing station you’ll also get to hear his acclimation and water testing philosophies. Finally we come to a bucket with enough valves and hoses to make your head spin. This is all part of Dean’s innovative water changing system. Two different diameter hoses provide options depending on how fast you want to drain tanks, and the rigid wand at the end helps suck up gunk. As water drains into the bucket a large pump runs it through a PVC tube up the wall, along the ceiling, and into the adjacent room where it ties in to a washing machine drain. I hope you enjoyed this Fish Room Tour. We will have more coming up in 2016. Don’t forget to like and subscribe! Too busy to watch the entire video, or maybe interested in just one specific species of fish? This quick index will tell you what fish had the spotlight when.

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INIYAN ARASU N M
INIYAN ARASU N M - 3 years ago
Hello Mr.Dean & Aquarium Co-Op.Im Iniyan from Nagercoil,Kaniyakumari,Southern tip of India.Im breeding angels and just started breeding Rams(Bolivian) too. My Bolivian pair spawned in my community tank and raised the fries until they are free swimmers (after which the babies were eaten away by other fishes).So i shifted the pair to a breeding tank sized 15-15-15 inches dimension.After a week the male started fighting with the female . I thought that i might have by mistake shifted another female and checked many times and found that the female which he is now chasing away in the breeder tank is the one with which he spawned. Im worried now,Kindly guide me or help me in this issue Dean
papadoubles
papadoubles - 3 years ago
Can you share the heater brand?
Stina M N H
Stina M N H - 3 years ago
Cool
Bruce b
Bruce b - 3 years ago
All my German blues and German angels always die except for the Bolivian.
Imperial Food Hrvatska
Imperial Food Hrvatska - 3 years ago
Great video
David Camargo
David Camargo - 3 years ago
how many rams should I buy for a planted 55 gallons?, can they live alone?, one ram per 3 females?, can I have only males?
Darkslide
Darkslide - 3 years ago
He has some beautiful rams.
nat saxon
nat saxon - 3 years ago
Beautiful tanks
goodstrong
goodstrong - 3 years ago
That’s an impressive set up!

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James Waggoner
James Waggoner - 3 years ago
If no one else has suggested already..... add a diffuser made from pvc on the outlet of the uplift tube to disperse the turbulence similar to a silencer on a gun.....
jason vallance
jason vallance - 3 years ago
after seeing Deans fish room, i really want to get back into the hobby, i had tanks all the way from 8 years old until my late 20`s, now in my mid 40`s with 2 kids i want to get some tanks and start breeding again, like dean I love chiclids , especially the dwarf... love the setup. lovely fish
Melissa Berry
Melissa Berry - 3 years ago
Definitely! I want to buy some of those small angels ....I think you called the super reds angels?the ones on the second row of tanks first tank in the row
Ricky Kenerly Cichlids
Ricky Kenerly Cichlids - 3 years ago
I enjoyed the whole video! It is great you support your local breeders and get quality fish from them!
Joseph Costa
Joseph Costa - 3 years ago
cleanest room i have ever seen. period.
Derrick
Derrick - 3 years ago
Iam a newby to the Hobby sexing fish in the shops iam fining that the staff don't know how to sex guppy's please help
Derrick
Derrick - 3 years ago
thanks
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 3 years ago
Watch our guppy presentation and it'll explain how to sex em.
boabab95
boabab95 - 4 years ago
what is he using for the diy siphon tubes? Just tubes from old siphons? clear pvc?
Deansfishroom
Deansfishroom - 3 years ago
I used to use clear acrylic but found it to be pretty fragile. So now I am using clear PVC and along with it being very durable it works great!
Deborah Libby
Deborah Libby - 4 years ago
Wonderful !!
Tyler
Tyler - 4 years ago
so it took me this long to do it but i counted those rams eggs and it is exactly 472 :P
Tyler
Tyler - 4 years ago
Aquarium Co-Op lol ok it will just take me another year
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
Hmm, I think you should count again.
Sebat caballero
Sebat caballero - 4 years ago
what an organized clean dude congrats

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tea glass
tea glass - 4 years ago
i had all types of aquariums my whole life, salt water, chiclid, but i haven't had a aquarium in a decade and this youtube community thought me more in a month then what i knew in 20 years
tea glass
tea glass - 4 years ago
learned so much from both you guys/ but dean might be the original to many great ideas that are just great
tea glass
tea glass - 4 years ago
this guy is bad ass, the dimmer is awsome
Adam Bowling
Adam Bowling - 4 years ago
I am attempting to set up more of a fish room for myself [ as much as my wife will allow anyways :) ] and this video is incredibly inspirational as a younger hobbiest!

I have fallen in love with apistos! How does he remove the fry for his breeding? Does he remove the eggs? Remove the parents? or how does he remove the fry? Net? Siphon?

Would love to gain some of this knowledge from such masters as you two!

Thanks!!!
Deansfishroom
Deansfishroom - 4 years ago
I never remove the parents, sometimes I will remove the eggs (whatever they are laid on) and hatch them artificially without the parents. Most times I will let the parents tend the eggs and hatch out the fry. Then once the fry are free swimming and feeding on live baby brine shrimp I will remove them to a fry tray or tank. The easiest way is to syphon them out to a container then transfer them to their rearing tank or tray. I use a piece of ¼” clear rigid tube with ¼” I.D. tubing attached. The rigid tube is long enough so that I don’t have to have my hands in the tank. I find this way to be the quickest and less intrusive in the tank when compared to using a turkey baster or a net.

I should also say that generally Apisto’s and Ram’s are pretty good parents, especially after the first couple spawns. So don’t be afraid to give them a few tries at rearing their young.
Rich Grenfell
Rich Grenfell - 4 years ago
That fry station (which I will be implementing asap), makes this my very favorite of all of your fishroom tours!
Craig G
Craig G - 4 years ago
How does dean control the flow to the floating fry trays?
also I have had Gold Rams spawn with me.i pulled the eggs,they hatched, got to free swimming then disappeared.. they were alone in the tank. any ideas?
Craig G
Craig G - 4 years ago
When I pulled the eggs I put them in a separate tank with the same water. These fry tanks have Java Moss in them and I add Liquifry 1 to the water to get some infusoria going. Then when hatched after the egg sack is gone I give a little Liquifry 1 and Hatch BBS. They were all free swimming, looked around 50. Tank has a sponge filter. There is a large clump of Java Moss, so I am hoping they are hiding away in there, but I cant see any ...
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
+Craig G what were you feeding the fry, he has the control valves on the water flow dropping into the trays.
Lyle Fish
Lyle Fish - 4 years ago
Well done sir!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
+Lyle Fish thanks
Kristie Mowry
Kristie Mowry - 4 years ago
Cory, you are a great interviewer. You coaxed a quiet person to tell all. The best! Do this tour yearly.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
I've been trying to go back. Dean is busy and we talk every couple of weeks. He's got a lot going on in his personal life at the moment and his fish room isn't up to the insane standards you see here in this video at the moment to him. Never mind it's great in any condition. His fish room being a mess, is better than anyone's clean fish room :P
Jake Tellander
Jake Tellander - 4 years ago
How would I contact dean to get ahold of some of his stock?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
Dean only sells wholesale to stores.
Craig G
Craig G - 4 years ago
My Apistogramma pair have spawned today. would you remove the dad?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
I'd either leave them both or remove the pair.

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Dakota Brewer
Dakota Brewer - 4 years ago
I just wanna say you are so good a what you do I straight love it
Joshua Keena
Joshua Keena - 4 years ago
I'm super new to all of this, but am I correct in thinking that his tanks are filtered only by those sponge filters? I don't see canisters or HOB like I thought was necessary. It looks like he's just using sponge filters with an air tube in there, but I can't imagine that would keep the water that pristine?
Joshua Keena
Joshua Keena - 4 years ago
Aquarium Co-Op thank you much! I watched your videos on filtration and sponge filters and they were great. I'm thinking a sump is the way to go long term for my plans, but I think sponge filters will be a great start for my 60 gallon.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
Sponge filters are what he is using combined with maintenance. In my experience most fish breeders rely on sponges.
MasterAquatics
MasterAquatics - 4 years ago
how does he do water changes for those tanks
nozii06
nozii06 - 4 years ago
Maybe the best looking fishroom i've ever seen ! Good work !
Pauls Planted Aquariums
Pauls Planted Aquariums - 4 years ago
Is this guy Still around? and if so does he sell / ship to the public?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
+Pauls Planted Aquariums no he only sells direct to stores as the public is too time consuming for him. He is still around. Purchased $600 in fish from him last week.
James King
James King - 4 years ago
Thank you for creating the best fish room in depth video that I think can be made.
Adam K
Adam K - 4 years ago
What sort of air pump does he use and where was it placed?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
+Adam K linear air piston pump like I use
livelaughForte
livelaughForte - 4 years ago
He bread those fish for his daughter! That's SO cute!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
+livelaughForte he is a kind man for sure.
Yams
Yams - 4 years ago
Very organized. I wish I could have a fish room like this. Maybe when I'm older...
Craig G
Craig G - 4 years ago
Hi Cory. After watching this video it inspired me to try and raise some Rams. I have been having a few issues though. I have some Electric Blue Ram's which I have got to spawn. Mum was eating the eggs so I removed them to rear on their own. They are in a 40L tank at the moment with a sponge filter. The fry are now free swimming and hanging around at the top together, yet every morning there are fry stuck to the wall of the tank. The sponge filter is on real low to create as little surface motion as I can get it, but this has so far taken around 30 fry off me over the past 2 nights. Everexperienced this or have any ideas on getting over it?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
+Welsh Viking try feeding more food, of use frozen brine and put the temp to 83 and see if that can get male in the mood.
Craig G
Craig G - 4 years ago
Cheers for the advice. The fry had been eating well, they were just sticking to the wall of the tank. I will try a night light in future. The surviving fry are eating BBShrimp currently and are doing well. My Electric Blue Acara have also spawned so its now a full time job hatching BBShrimp. I have a pair of Apistogramma Agasizzi too, however they aren't interested in each other at the moment. She has gone a deep yellow, but doesnt seem to want to pick out a cave etc. Any advice on encouraging a spawn?
dean7500
dean7500 - 4 years ago
I like to use a small LED night light at night. If the fry are free swimming and slowly dying off they may be starving to death. They need super small food for the first couple days, infusoria, paramecium, APR 5-50 micron, etc. generally by the 3rd or 4th day you can get them to take some very newly hatched baby brine shrimp.

It is not uncommon for the adults to eat the eggs or fry the first couple spawns, once they get the hang of it they are usually pretty good parents. Also if you are sure that the female is eating the eggs you can remove only her and the male could do a great job at rearing the fry.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
Try leaving the light on so they don't go to sleep until they are large enough to fight the current.
SuperFlojoGuy
SuperFlojoGuy - 4 years ago
Amazing AF!
Nik Marren
Nik Marren - 4 years ago
Wow, i'm amazed at this guys organization. It really shows how experienced and knowledgeable he is about breeding fish. I aspire to have something like this at some point.
josh1000100
josh1000100 - 4 years ago
Those zebra plecos are gorgeous and one of the fish on my bucket list to keep.
Danny's Aquariums
Danny's Aquariums - 4 years ago
This fishroom looks amazing!
So clean and organised!

Thumbs up!
richy
richy - 4 years ago
This "fry station" concept is really cool. I may implement something similar for my cory breeding project. Do you know what the flow rate is on the water pump (brand and model no. if possible) feeding the trays? Also, what kind of valves does he use for the water lines?
dean7500
dean7500 - 4 years ago
The pump that I’m using for the water supply to the trays is a Marineland Maxi-Jet 600 Pro Power Head. I’ve got a fairly fine sponge pre-filter on it in the tank which along with adding biological filtration it also helps to keep the water supply valves from clogging up.

The water control valves I use came from Jehmco and they are part number AV4. Another valve that they sell that will work is part number AWV1TB. These use different sizes drills and taps so be sure to order accordantly.

Dean
zoo land
zoo land - 4 years ago
cool
Name Unavailable.
Name Unavailable. - 4 years ago
this is my goal! that fish room was something else.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
+Average Joe hes is an amazing aquarist for sure.
Craig Gunn
Craig Gunn - 4 years ago
Hi Cory. Just been watching this video with envy :D. I have some German Blue Rams and some Electric Blue rams I am trying to get to spawn, however they are extremely shy and hide in the plants constantly. The tank is planted with rocks and caves with tons of cover, but I rarely see the fish. Any advice on encouraging them out? The tank is bare sided, should I cover the sides and back?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
+Craig Gunn temp is too low if you are trying to dpawn them. Should be up at 85 or so.
Craig Gunn
Craig Gunn - 4 years ago
Currently have 1 male and 2 females in each tank. Temp is set at 81degrees. I have a couple of Glowlight Tetra in there too so they can see its safe. The glowlights are out and about constantly, and I am making sure the Rams get food.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
+Craig Gunn how many are in each spawning tank, and what temps are you running?
Thriveforfreedom
Thriveforfreedom - 4 years ago
Amazing ! thanks for the videos
Gurpreet Singh
Gurpreet Singh - 4 years ago
Hi Cory,

What heaters and canister filters is he using??
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
He uses mostly eheim canisters, and he was using catalinas heaters but since then has had very high failure rates.

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Danny Mackey
Danny Mackey - 4 years ago
hey cory how do i get ahold of dean to buy some electric blue rams?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
+Danny Mackey he doesn't ship. But he was actice in the comments section here so maybe he will contact you if interested.
ShortNanxious
ShortNanxious - 4 years ago
Cool!!!
The Fish Closet
The Fish Closet - 4 years ago
hey Cory, what temp is he running his ram tanks at?
The Fish Closet
The Fish Closet - 4 years ago
+Aquarium Co-Op thank you
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 4 years ago
84 degrees
Hunting Wolf
Hunting Wolf - 4 years ago
I want to breed apistos so bad but I can't even keep a pair alive. Ordered 5, 3 weeks ago, and only a female is barely hanging on alive. This is in a tank with delicate German Blue Rams (mine are going strong for 6 months), platys, cory cats (perfectly healthy), yet my apistos killed over like crazy. I don't know what's going on. I had heard apistogramma cacatuoides were more hardy than rams. Not in my case. :-(
Philthy Phil
Philthy Phil - 4 years ago
temp?
The Fish Closet
The Fish Closet - 4 years ago
check out my channel for apistogramma info.
Stephen Bamber
Stephen Bamber - 4 years ago
Those Plecos are cool fish. I keep corys and plecos together they work well. I like his syphon and brine shrimp systems.
wjhung2
wjhung2 - 5 years ago
I've been looking for some Apistogramma borellii...Does Dean sell his fish?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
He supplies them to local stores.
Joloj Aquatic
Joloj Aquatic - 5 years ago
That's a very nice setup. Thumbs up.
michael lawrence
michael lawrence - 5 years ago
excelent
jim jiles
jim jiles - 5 years ago
Awesome video, thank you for teaming up to make this together. My 8 year old is raising Angel's and we really like Discus but are afraid they would be top difficult. Check out his Angel's on his FB page at Niks Fish, https://www.facebook.com/niksfish/Niks Fish/
wcdeich4
wcdeich4 - 5 years ago
What kind of tank do you recommend for breeding the plecos - bare bottom, sand, aqua soil.....? And what kind of breeding caves are best?
George Shaver
George Shaver - 5 years ago
I'm starting up again with a small 10 gallon tank. I just now saw your videos and really enjoyed them. Had I saw them before buying my 10 gal. It would not have been 10 gal., but 55 gal or more. Anyway, I have this 10 gallon tank. I am thinking to populate it with only one type fish; probably a neon tetra. Just a nice little school of 20 or so and I would be looking for the largest neon tetras that I could get.

Can you tell me where or how I can get these 20 Neon or Cardinal Tetras? Any other ideas about this?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+George Shaver plants you can buy online, from me even if you wantes. Cardinals and neons i would shop around to find a decent local source.
George Shaver
George Shaver - 5 years ago

Thanks, and plants... good idea
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
I recommend just buying them from your local pet store, Make sure to start off slow and it would be best if you had plants established.
jeremy fourstring
jeremy fourstring - 5 years ago
Wow... to cool..
Jason Juchems
Jason Juchems - 5 years ago
Jealous of the L-46 Zebra Pleco colony. I want to bred them so bad. Great looking colony.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
You'll like the next fish room tour video coming out then, there is another zebra pleco colony.
Pietro Pelatti
Pietro Pelatti - 5 years ago
Where can I buy this sponge filter?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
You only ever buy them once though. They literally last a life time.
Pietro Pelatti
Pietro Pelatti - 5 years ago
Wow they are so expansive!!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Unicorno Rosa my website. Www.aquariumcoop.com
Samantha Reimer
Samantha Reimer - 5 years ago
One of the best fish rooms I've seen, and so clean.
Alyssa Edwards
Alyssa Edwards - 5 years ago
Nice fish room
John Zimm
John Zimm - 5 years ago
Since he lives in the same area as you, how does he handle the acidic tap water? I don't see any crushed coral.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+John Zimm his water is much different than mine even though he lives just 40 minutes from me
John Zimm
John Zimm - 5 years ago
Do either of you have a video on retrofitting the LEDs with the dimmer?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+John Zimm yeah. Ibhave one it b is a tuesday top video.
John Zimm
John Zimm - 5 years ago
It's nice to see all these different setups! In the female "yellow" fish tank (16:04), he says the fins were burned, what is that from?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
Usually it's from an ammonia spike when that happens. Keeping to many fry and not getting a water change done in time.
FishyMats
FishyMats - 5 years ago
Could we get a how to video on his water change bucket? Seems like a really great system!
Cristian Tanasa
Cristian Tanasa - 5 years ago
Beautiful Discus you got there.
Greg Saveall
Greg Saveall - 5 years ago
Amazing and inspiring, thanks for sharing
Inglorious Bettas
Inglorious Bettas - 5 years ago
Question, what kind of LEDs are those?? I'm planning a new rack system....MWAHAHHAHA
Manny R
Manny R - 4 years ago
I see Amazon but not yours
Manny R
Manny R - 4 years ago
Aquarium Co-Op where is the link for your store?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
Finnex Stingray lights. You can buy em here on Amazon http://amzn.to/1VCiOUa or from my store :)
epond83
epond83 - 5 years ago
Great video! Have you looked into getting a Polarizing filter for your camera? It can help to cut the glare on glass giving you a better shot into the tanks.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+epond83 i havent but i will look into it now.
Joey Molnar
Joey Molnar - 5 years ago
why type of heaters is he running here?
Joey Molnar
Joey Molnar - 5 years ago
Oh wow! seems like a cool design, but yeah can't have failing heaters thanks!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Joey Molnar They are from Catalina Aquariums but are all failing on him now.
John Martinez
John Martinez - 5 years ago
Love the mop lol! That is a damn clean fish room.
Andrew cameron
Andrew cameron - 5 years ago
that's effin impressive
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Andrew cameron Indeed. Just got off the phone with Dean. Love hanging out with this guy.
Kommen Tatort
Kommen Tatort - 5 years ago
WoW sick tank-management
COOPER'S CICHILDS
COOPER'S CICHILDS - 5 years ago
great video
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Chefcoop69 Cooper Thanks.
panaque
panaque - 5 years ago
love these fish room tours Corey! mulm master, lol!
panaque
panaque - 5 years ago
Yeah, heaters can be a nightmare. I still love my old EboJager. I have never had an issue with them ever, and have been using them for 30+ years. I have some old ones that I swapped out that still work in case of an emergency. Just had to swap them out after 10 or so years. I still have one that has the old adjustment nob thats covered in rubber. They are bullet proof!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
It's one from catalina aquariums he is using. He loves the way the work, but they are not reliable. He had like 4 of them go out in the last month :(
panaque
panaque - 5 years ago
+Aquarium Co-Op i must admit, I have mulm too. mayne a support group is in order ;) my catfish seem to relish it, so I usually keep a little in the back corner where they like to hang out. plus its a pain to get to, its a forest of jungle val back there! i am really impressed with how he uses the space and how healthy everything looks. i love good fish husbandry! what are the heaters he is using?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+panaque I like mulm :P Dean and I have had like a 4 hour long conversation on mulm... Can't actually decide if mulm is a negative thing.
The Angry Fish Guy
The Angry Fish Guy - 5 years ago
I'd love to hang out and pick that guys brain... He seems to have a lot of knowledge.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+erxkeel Yeah, I try too as much as I can :P
Pit Bull
Pit Bull - 5 years ago
i love it
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Pit Bull Thanks.
Pit Bull
Pit Bull - 5 years ago
i could bring a air mattress an and live in that Fish room
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Pit Bull You totally could, it's warm enough. But Dean gets up super early to feed fish :P
Don Munn
Don Munn - 5 years ago
Amazing! Gives me something to shoot for with my 11 x 11 fish room.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Don Munn Indeed. Amazing small space.
SevernRunAquatics
SevernRunAquatics - 5 years ago
This video really helped me out Cory thanks for making this video with Dean!
SevernRunAquatics
SevernRunAquatics - 5 years ago
+Aquarium Co-Op Dean seems like an awesome guy and hobbyist wish I could go in there and pick his brain. I'm using the "tv dinner tray" idea now for my tiny fry.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+SevernRunAquatics Glad you learned from it :)
Greggerman
Greggerman - 5 years ago
This is one of the few cases where the word "awesome" doesn't really do the accomplishment justice.
Where does Dean work? A hospital or lab? LOL

Just plain impressive. Thanks, Cory!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Greggerman Neither, he has been posting on comments here, so I'll let him chime in if he wants with his profession.
Ramphonic
Ramphonic - 5 years ago
Omg jealous.. Such a cool setup. Im having a hard time getting dedicated electric for mine.
Ramphonic
Ramphonic - 5 years ago
+Aquarium Co-Op Lol. I guess its not a big enough job for the electricians in my area.. I like the same combo, I have angels, rainbows and apistos going in mine
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Ramphonic Yeah. I've run fish rooms off extention cords before... :P
wyzemann
wyzemann - 5 years ago
I'm hard pressed to locate a fish room or tanks as efficiently organized and tidy as Dean's. Unbelievable aquarist, a true credit to our hobby!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+wyzemann I'm lucky to have him so close to me.
Cagri Ergen
Cagri Ergen - 5 years ago
Hey Corey, I have a question for you. I have seen in many of your videos that you put a plant in a small planter to use in mostly bare bottom tanks. I did one with amazon sword and it is not doing well. Do you use dirt or regular substrate like pebbles or sand inside the planter? Thanks for the help..
Cagri Ergen
Cagri Ergen - 5 years ago
+Aquarium Co-Op awesome. Thanks Cory
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Hasan Cagri Ergen Well sand typically suffocates a plants root system. I recommend gravel and root tabs personally. But there are lots of easier plants than the swords to use. Use crypts, they are much easier. Amazon swords want Lots of nutrients. Also plecos love to eat amazon swords.
Matthew Despaw
Matthew Despaw - 5 years ago
I sure will keep up the good work
Matthew Despaw
Matthew Despaw - 5 years ago
I had someone suggest your series on breeding fish for profit and enjoyed every minute of it help me realize I need to approach it differently
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Matthew Despaw Glad to hear it. Make sure you thank that person for me for recommending my series to you :) Together we can share the knowledge.
Matthew Despaw
Matthew Despaw - 5 years ago
I'm enjoying these videos, lots of great info for the hobbiest
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Matthew Despaw Grat! I use them to go back later and remember good ideas I saw.
Rub Mez
Rub Mez - 5 years ago
I just love your videos bro lots of good stuff
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Rub Mez Thanks. Stay tuned for lots more videos ;)
Inglorious Bettas
Inglorious Bettas - 5 years ago
This is my dream fish room hahahaha...except all the water will be yellow :p
Inglorious Bettas
Inglorious Bettas - 5 years ago
Yay!!!! :D 
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Skylrrider Of course it will be. By the way we forgot to film the tanks not in the fish room... Like where he is spawning the betta rubra he got from you!
Haitham Al Anzi
Haitham Al Anzi - 5 years ago
Great video
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Haitham Al Anizi Thanks for watching.
Pedro Parente
Pedro Parente - 5 years ago
AMAZING!!! Nice work both of you, and good job with a very detailed and helpfull description! What brand are those sponge filters? And what is the powder food he says he gives to the fry ? Thank you and keep on the good work, i wished i was living in the states to visit your store!
dean7500
dean7500 - 5 years ago
+Aquarium Co-Op, I get it from Brine Shrimp Direct, they call it Golden Pearls, I do think they ship internationally. Buy the smallest quantity that you can because a little bit goes a long ways. Keep it in the refrigerator to extend its shelf life.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
I'm actually not sure where to source the APR. I usually get it shipped to me with eggs I buy on aquabid.
Pedro Parente
Pedro Parente - 5 years ago
Is there a brand of APR available online or some other way to get it ? Hopefully some that ships to europe ? Or maybe an alternative to this type of fish food ? Sorry for so many questions
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Pedro Parente for the smallest fry he feed APR aka artificial rotifer protein. As for sponge filters most of them are ATi sponge filters.
us them
us them - 5 years ago
Not to try and down your fish room cory but dang dean is the man .....I was looking at all the ideas i wanna use .... the breeder rack is just what ive been looking for for my angels
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Desmond Harper Oh, I agree, Dean is the man and his fish room is amazing!
Glen Hill
Glen Hill - 5 years ago
dang, you're fast..... I am still watching your video.. you rock!!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Glen Hill Always working! :P Editing other videos to upload.
Glen Hill
Glen Hill - 5 years ago
does he have a generator if the power goes out?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Glen Hill I'm not sure. I'll ask him :P Worst case he could borrow one of mine if my store/house wasn't out.
Frontosa4life
Frontosa4life - 5 years ago
Great video,just subbed!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Frontosa4life Thanks for joining #teamaquariumcoop

100. comment for Angelfish and German Blue Ram Fish Room Tour with Master Breeder Dean

AQUA NUT
AQUA NUT - 5 years ago
Great video watched in on FishTube :) Dean is the man great setup
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+AQUA NUT Indeed.
NeMo
NeMo - 5 years ago
If the baby CRS come out full body white (without any red) then they aren't PRLs. That is the whole point of PRL. They only produce CRS no full body whites...
Rich's Fishes
Rich's Fishes - 5 years ago
love fishroom tours! Excited to see this vid is so long. Pissed I dont have time to watch it all right now lol
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
Yeah he's not too worried about cross contamination because everything that comes into the room gets quarantined. In a perfect world where he has a bigger room, he'd use a different system.
Rich's Fishes
Rich's Fishes - 5 years ago
+Aquarium Co-Op Phew, finally got to finish this one. I need to get you and Dean out to my place in NY for some advice! That water change system is fantastic and I'm definitely going to try to implement something like this in the future. I suppose he isn't worried about cross contamination? You also got me measuring my room lol. My tanks are in about 75 sq ft of space (not a square room so its a rough estimate) which includes my washer dryer and utility sink! I still think Dean uses his space much more efficiently.....but gives me hope that I do still have room to expand!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Rich's Fishes All in due time :P
Nikki G
Nikki G - 5 years ago
Hey what are the sponges covering the intake of the aquaclears?
Nikki G
Nikki G - 5 years ago
+Aquarium Co-Op thanks
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Nikki G They are Filter Max Pro intake sponges. I'll get them up on my website for sale soon.
RyansAquarium
RyansAquarium - 5 years ago
He's a legend!!!! No wonder the stock is so high quality at your store, you seek out excellent breeders cory!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+RyansAquarium Thank you :)
RyansAquarium
RyansAquarium - 5 years ago
+Aquarium Co-Op This hobby needs more people like you Cory. Props!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+RyansAquarium Its one of the reasons I started a store so that breeders like this could actually exist and breed great fish.
Michael's Fish Room
Michael's Fish Room - 5 years ago
What a great use of space. Seems like you guys are buddies too, that's cool. Another great video Cory!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Michael Skurnik Yeah, we've taken a liking to each other :P
Will Arvin
Will Arvin - 5 years ago
Learned a lot! Thanks Cory for showing us around Dean's fish room!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Will Arvin Thanks for watching and supporting!
Joseph Pinkston
Joseph Pinkston - 5 years ago
That fish room is awesome. I am inspired now. Less then a 100 sq feet and you had almost an hour tour. NICE!!!! Thanks for the video Corey
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Joseph Pinkston Yeah, his fish production to sq ft is off the charts! :P
Nikki G
Nikki G - 5 years ago
Woah this is the most unique fish room ive seen. Really nice and clean. I wish i was that creative.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Nikki G It all comes with experience he has been doing it for over 40 years.
BigWig Aquatics
BigWig Aquatics - 5 years ago
So much fish room in so little space!!!!And so many ideas now rolling through my head...
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+BigWig Aquatics Yes, it's dangerous to see the room, cause then you think... Well no reason I can't do it now!
Nikki G
Nikki G - 5 years ago
Sell me some of your beautiful guppies
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
Yeah. Maybe in the future we'll get back to shipping fish. But at the moment without getting employees dedicated to live fish shipping I'm afraid we won't find the time until then.
Nikki G
Nikki G - 5 years ago
+Aquarium Co-Op im all the way in ny. That would be a long road trip for fish.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Nikki G Come pick them up :P
ShelbyRae Lane
ShelbyRae Lane - 5 years ago
That fish room is AMAZING! So even the excuse of..."I would keep more fish but I live in a studio apartment won't wash anymore." I'll send them the link to this video...LOL. I was so into this video I didn't even realize an hour had passed. Super job Cory...an absolutely EXCELLENT video and interview.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+ShelbyRae Lane Glad it held your attention the whole way through. That is hard to do for a youtuber like myself. Thanks for watching!
hydrorecords
hydrorecords - 5 years ago
This is the best vid on youtube
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+hydrorecords Why thank you :P
Cagri Ergen
Cagri Ergen - 5 years ago
It truly was an awesome fish room tour. It gives me ton of ideas and set some goals for me. Thanks Cory..
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Hasan Cagri Ergen Shows how much can be done in like a small bedroom!
Cole Schramm
Cole Schramm - 5 years ago
That is one of the cleanest and tidiest "fish rooms" I have ever seen. Very nice. Thanks for taking the time to show us.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Cole Schramm Glad you enjoyed it :)
Steph L
Steph L - 5 years ago
amazing fish room
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Steph L It truely is :) I was in love when I first saw it.
AqualifeTv
AqualifeTv - 5 years ago
Wow awesome fishroom! Do you know his waterparameters? How does he treat his water to get his fish breeding? :)
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+AqualifeTv He uses tapwater for everything. Except R/O Water for the crystal shrimp.
I Am
I Am - 5 years ago
nicest jail cell ive ever seen :)
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Nicholas Wang Without a doubt :)
Luke Stephenson
Luke Stephenson - 5 years ago
This guy knows his stuff.
BigWig Aquatics
BigWig Aquatics - 5 years ago
I definitely look forward to that!!
Luke Stephenson
Luke Stephenson - 5 years ago
+Aquarium Co-Op More videos with this guy would be great.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Luke Stephenson He's been doing it a long time. Lots to learn. I hope to do some more videos with him explaining how to breed different fish.
Ali Morland
Ali Morland - 5 years ago
How does Dean add water back into the tanks? I didn't catch that.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Ali Morland He is using basically a python hose to refill from his bathroom across the hall.
The Fish Closet
The Fish Closet - 5 years ago
cory, hand down this is the best display of someone's fishroom. other big you tubers could learn a thing or 2 about the interview process. kudos,
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+1deaver Thank you for the kind words :) I really enjoy visiting fish rooms :)
Ravindran Arumugam
Ravindran Arumugam - 5 years ago
Fantastic, what a clean fish room, love it
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Ravindran Arumugam Dean is really talented with fish for sure.
Damion Markham
Damion Markham - 5 years ago
totally amazing , what a kind and gentle person . thanks so much for sharing
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Damion Markham He really is, he is a great friend to have :)
Ebay Guru
Ebay Guru - 5 years ago
fantastic fish room thanks ... We saw here drain / clean a tank how does he refill them .. also credit where credit is due.. those tanks were immaculate... and clean thanks for this amazing update
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Ebay Guru He uses a hose attached to his faucet to fill them. Forgot to mention that! Thanks, Give him a thumbs up:)
P0HTAT0
P0HTAT0 - 5 years ago
I'm going to adopt and adapt a few ideas from this room. Sadly in some small ways I wanted to say your doing it wrong but everybody dose what works for them some times to great success where you wouldn't think it would even work... All in all a grate room happy you have shared it with us.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+P0HTAT0 Glad you found time useful info in the video :)
Eric the Viking
Eric the Viking - 5 years ago
That room, by a long shot, had the cleanest tanks and the entire room was so well organized. Some serious dedication to his hobby, gives me something to aim for and also proves that you dont need a huge space to be very successful. Bravo!
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Eric Gjersvold yeah, he is crazy efficient with what comes out of that fish room :)
Rico Suave
Rico Suave - 5 years ago
Hell yes this was a real fish room tour... Showed off everything in some detail seen fish seen hatchery seen water change system
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+Rico Suave I hope they can all be this good from now on :) Hardest part is convincing people to let me film their room :)
RIP PROOF
RIP PROOF - 5 years ago
Thanks for the long videos! An hour well spent
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+RIP PROOF Glad you enjoyed it :)
Matt B
Matt B - 5 years ago
One day... one day, I'll have a discus tank.
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
Mostly because I see myself not doing it to my full potential. For me to do it. I'd probably want to do a 180 gallon, automate water changes etc. Then to pull that it would be in my fish room instead of my house. I do plan on maybe breeding a pair of discus this year. But "keeping" would be a big school of them for me to enjoy. I'm not sure I'd do that. Maybe my own discus babies would convince me to do it.
Cagri Ergen
Cagri Ergen - 5 years ago
+Aquarium Co-Op Cory, why don't you want to keep discus again?
Aquarium Co-Op
Aquarium Co-Op - 5 years ago
+ItsNotButterOMG I enjoy discus, but don't know if I want to keep them seriously again.

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