HOW TO medicate sick aquarium fish - Cure for ICH
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How to cure aquarium fish ich A full tank of aquarium fish was contaminated and became infected with parasites... But not for long.. i beat them. Heres how! Come see me in Maryland: http://thebigfishdeal.com Come see me in colorado: https://www.facebook.com/events/1836198706690138/ JOIN MY TEAM: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM9oZkV3tGJuUUhgZaiGZkQ/join Get the ultimate DIY book ► http://thekingofdiy.com LIMITED EDITION SHIRTS!! ► https://goo.gl/fvSh6Y Facebook ► http://facebook.com/uarujoey Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/uarujoey/ The king of DIY aquarium projects, education and inspiration! Check back daily as I make a video almost every day! MAIL TO: PO BOX 25054 Truro, NS B2N 7B8 Canada How to build aquariums: https://goo.gl/gu3CsK How to build aquarium filters: https://goo.gl/cw0Jl9 How to build aquarium stands: https://goo.gl/9JB9jo How to build aquarium equipment: https://goo.gl/BHkT2s How to build aquarium lighting: https://goo.gl/Wg4kt0 How to build aquarium decorations: https://goo.gl/crQkeT Varius aquarium tutorials: https://goo.gl/BKCb3a ALL Thursday videos: https://goo.gl/DPHjEM ALL Sunday videos: https://goo.gl/Rn0wmS My aquarium pumps, circulation and lights are by: http://ecotechmarine.com My aquarium racks and the aquariums within them were made by: http://customaquariums.com My aquarium backgrounds are made by: https://aquadecorbackgrounds.com/
I forget the dose I used for the 4 ft tank affected, maybe a teaspoon or two. It wasnt bucket loads thats for sure lol. I researched at the time and saw the heat+salt+water changes being claimed as a good natural treatment as many raised concerns about the 'ich medications' on the market.....I was no expert and chose to give it a try (seemed safer for me). This happened many years ago, sorry I dont remember doses etc. Love to hear others thoughts on this remedy, did I just get lucky or is it proof that its a good treatment.
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does the medicine stains the glass ?
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Can I put submersible wood with the golden fish?
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PH:8.0
Amm: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 5 to 10
Water changes seem to help, when done 25% every 2 days. I have good water agitation with spray bar and an air stone in tank.
I can't figure out what is going on. Someone suggested Meth Blue which i did for 4 days as per directions with temp at 86. There were no deaths during treatment but the flashing is back. Can anyone suggest anything?
And just making sure I get this ich happens if you get something foreign in your tank like the water from the bag and a net ?
I learned how to draw in prison
I just recently noticed that my fishes got ich and I was wondering is it bad to quarantine the fish in the display tank oppose to getting a separate tank?
Thank you,
Mark
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they want you to remove the chemical filtration because it can absorb some of the medicine, so removing it is usually a good idea.
A lot of aquariumist will use chemical filtration after a full treatment, they use it to remove any of the dyes and remaining medicine from the tank.
Unless it is a chemical that they are using regularly, maybe to lower iron levels or something else of that nature, they will just put it back after the treatment.
And please more video about taking care from infection
I have a Blood Parrot about 2 - 2 and a half inch and then i have a Tiger Oscar about 3 Inch -
My Parrot is super aggressive towards the Oscar and the Oscar keeps defending himself and sometimes fight back
How to control this aggression?
1. Add more decorations to show "landmarks" of territory
2. Get a bigger tank so thar there is larger space for both of them to establish territory. This and adding more decorations usually solve any problems
3. If only its possible with a big enough tank and a big enough filter, get more fish. This diffuses any aggresion between the dominant males.
In my experience this helps solve any aggression.
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whats the best medication to use? i have live plants, a snail, some shrimp, plecos and a few other fish in the tank
If the medication is green/blue and smells pungent (don't sniff too hard!), it will work.
Thanks
Also, thanks for sharing this video with us. I like that you share the struggles/problems you have with the hobby and not just the "perfect" moments. It's much more authentic and relatable. :)
I noticed (1) white spot on the back fin of my new pea puffer, the other (2) didn’t have it. I have them in a bare bottom, completely empty quarantine tank now. Heater is on, with air bubbles going, and ick medication started.
My first question I have is, HOW LONG do I CONTINUE to treat ick with the medications even after the fish appear healed and healthy?
I feed my puffers their worms via metal tongs. Second question, what is a good disinfection process for my tools so as not to re-contaminate the fish?
I would like to actually keep them in this smaller quarantine tank once they’re healed and healthy, and eventually decorate this tank. I would change out the filter — but third question is it recommended to completely disinfect the tank first?
To disinfect equipment, plain bleach and the sun is the most effective way to go. Soak equipment in bleach for around 30mins and rinse a million times. Then let it completely dry in the sun and rinse again in a bucket of water with heaps of prime or a similar product.
Don't use bleach on porous things like sponges, filter media etc.
I don't think you mentioned in the video that malachite green and methylene blue are both toxic to smooth skinned fish and invertebrates. Copper is also used, but it is definitely toxic to invertebrates, and I believe once you put in the tank, it is either always there, or is for a very long time. I have had success using methylene blue and malachite green at half strength without killing smooth skinned fish or invertebrates. However, that's assuming you catch the infection early. If you don't notice it until the fish are covered with parasites, they're probably not going to be strong enough long enough for the half strength dosing to work before the fish die.
Also, both blue and green will permanently stain everything in the tank; sealant, rocks, plants, everything. Blue is much worse about this than green.
This will help kill parasites.
since most fish stores use one fish net for all their tanks. Saltwater or ich medication bath is an extra precaution to prevent ich or pest snails from being carried by fish, aquatic plants, and water. It does not hurt to do this. It can only help. Ever since I do this bath I have not gotten ich or pest snails. I also dip my new plants in a bath before I put them in my main tank.
Copper can be very effective, but you have to really be careful with it if you plan on having invertebrates in the tank after you use it.
Huh?? You’ve had these fish a year?
Garlic isn't a treatment for anything. The best treatment for marine ich is copper. Chloroquine Phosphate works very well also. Then there's the tank transfer method (TTM) and hyposalinity. Certain strains of marine ich can also spread through the air to tanks up to 10ft. away.
Malachite Green is a good treatment tool for ich, but hardly the most effective, or appropriate one every time as it will kill corals. There's a lot of people that view this channel and shouldn't think that treating ich is the same across the board, which is why I said to research what you keep. There's a bit more to it than just salt.
I dont speak english at all and you know what ? I understand your language perfectly fine because you talk for we understand !! You take the right time for your viewers and this is amazing you the BEST !! I fellow you from QUEBEC and im wearing your FISHKEEPER TSHIRT You amazing I never had the Ick but I know I will have one day and your video gonna save my fish I just wanted to say you that WE LOVE YOU
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Does the Malachite Green permanelty stain some stuff in the tank?
i can imagine it is difficult to ignore any negative comments though, so ill give you some slack lol
They it eat parasites
D:
What should I do? If I put those 2 in a separate tank I think they are more likely to die of loneliness then the actual infection, right?
all fish died within a week... I will do it from now on with all of them what i buy..
this was 12 weeks ago and my next fish I'll buy will go in quarantine for that same time too..
the thing is a tank with corals can't be treated with copper base.. so I had to leave the tank empty for 12 weeks before all ick died out.
in my quarantine tank I will use copper based products and for corals I'll just have to wait 8 to 12 weeks
contracted Ick from the newcomers, did you treat the newcomers for it as well even though you didn't see signs of it on them?
I would also like to suggest that some of your viewers..... get their own channel. I am a fan of you and it irritates me that they have the nerve to write these long comments.
I’m a big fan of your work, and I follow your channel closely.
However as a Biologist (and a fishkeeper for around twenty years), I have to correct you on a few things in this video :)
I don’t mean to sound patronizing at all, but since this is a educational video I hope you will listen to my comments – if you ever get to read them... Or maybe somebody else will.
You mention that the airbubbles themselves don’t actually contribute to raising the oxygen level while going through the water column. This is not exactly true. While circulation definitely helps a lot with the uptake of oxygen into the water column the diffusion of oxygen from the airbubbles into the water are most definitely of high importance. This is partly why smaller bubbles add more oxygen despite of a lower amount of surface movement – however smaller bubbles might also add to the overall circulation of the water column.
The fact that the water bubbles travel fast through the water column only amplifies the effect – this is expressed by “Fick's first law” as the “diffusion coefficient” (D) is proportional to the velocity of the particles in question.
Velocity is simply not preventing diffusion but rather facilitating it.
I’m not an expert on pathogenes but as far as I could tell most of what you explained about Ichthyophthirius seemed very accurate. However I would argue that almost all fish in the aquarium hobby today can withstand temperatures upwards of 30-32 degree Celsius (86-89 degree Fahrenheit) as long as the oxygen level is high enough (however that can be a real pain from 26/80 degree Celsius/Fahrenheit and up).
I agree with your comment on adding salt (table salt, mind you ;) ) and raising the temperature, however the reasoning behind this is NOT that the higher temperature and salt will kill of the parasite itself. Rather the temperature will help speed up the lifecycle (just as you explained) and the salt will relieve the osmotic stress of the fish, so more resources can go to fighting of the parasite through the immune system. The temperature also helps with this. But you are definitely right that salt should only be added occasionally!
Also just a quick comment about the use of quarantine systems since I believe that the use of these systems heavily relies on what type of setup you have and where you get your fish from! The use of quarantine systems are usually a good tip, however it can be a bit too much when getting fish from a responsible dealer that have already kept them in quarantine and if your aquarium are relatively small and easy to treat that is.
On larger systems and with self imported fish I definitely believe that quarantine systems are a must.
Furthermore, everything is a chemical, so please be careful with using the word too liberally – but I’m sure you already know this :)
Great video!
/Fred
Again. Table salt is simply the common name for NaCl. It does not apply to any other agents that might have been added to the product that you are buying.
/Fred
Could you please supply any kind of sources for your claims? Thank you.
Otherwise I encourage you to read up on basic chemistry of salts and aquatic toxity of substances.
/Fred
A certain concentration in conjuncture with higher temperatures can help to get rid of the pathogen. But not by killing it. Rather by relieving the osmotic pressure/stress on the fish, and thus helping the immune system to function better.
I like to use 250 grams/liter to treat Ich, in most cases - a rather high concentration, I know :)
/Fred
Not a big deal, but it should also be mentioned that these "green," or "blue" medications WILL stain your glass aquariums silicone sealant.
Thanks.
it sticks on her head.
Keep doing your thing DIY King.
I noticed a couple days ago that my two festives had it. Then yesterday my electric blue acara.
The festives are the two newest editions (about two months ago) they've been stressed out by the firemouth chasing them and I believe that is what has allowed the parasite to take hold...
My only problem is, I have turtles in the tank, so meds are a no go unless I remove them. So for now, I'm hiking temperature, increased air flow, and trying something different....feeding garlic.
They've had two feeds so far, and this morning they are looking happier. The acara, who only started showing spots yesterday, now has none and isn't holding his fins flat...
Apparently, a type of acid in garlic kills parasites. I believe the theory is that this is more effective in the blood stream, but I'm also hoping having it in the water will also help.
In the mean time I will keep gravel vacuuming...
I do have meds and a spare tank for the turtles ready, just in case, but hopefully I can deal with this the natural way!
Oh.. Nice pic joey
FRANK!
Back to the pictures
Frank and bubbles!
Back to the pic..
F R A N K!
back to pic. Explodes yes Joey I'm paying attention..
Oh frank!
A piece of history : 17th century, France. To avoid spreading of a disease, people are asked to be isolated for 40 days. 40 is written “quarante” in French. Quarante... quarantine.
That’s for history.
I am a fan of your videos. But sometimes I am wondering...
No quarantine ?
No acclimatation?
You make some mistakes but you learn always about them.
At the beginning of your video you talk about your net.
I have only 5 tanks, but each tank has its net. I learned always not to introduce anything from a tank into another.
We have so much to learn in this hobby.
Keep tanking Joey !
be sure that the feeding fish is not infected
I’m guilty of not quarantining in the past and lost my favorite fish because of it. Lesson learned. Have my quarantine tank set up now!
The drawing board & the temperature being 88...
I havent seen one person say anything about the movie, this is heavy.
I stress quarantine for everything including fish, invertebrates and plants. Even on your DIY Fishkeeper FaceBook page I get attacked for even suggesting such a thing.
Like you, I rarely have problems with illness in my tanks.
However about six months ago one of my big tanks blew a seam and I had to partially rebuild and reseal it.
Shortly afterward this tank was inundated with bloat and I lost several of my favorite breeding Angels and all my scaleless fish from that tank.
That said........
The sickness came and went without me being able to identify the actual cause of the problem and my plants and fish are slowly returning to "normal" with no losses for the last 9 weeks.
Again, thank you for stressing the need for quarantine.
If they won't listen to me, Hopefully they WILL listen to you.
Was it something with the inverts?
I don't know, but I'll never do that again!
hope your fish get a different types of diseases >:) so you can produce another educational videos about curing them ^__ ^
By the way love your vids!
I agree, though, I thought the same thing.
The dip in solubility of oxygen is higher than that of the increase in solubility of water and thus, the overall solubility is decreased.
Temperature increase, liquid= higher solubility
It’s ick
Your first answer was right
Would be cool. Tres cool.
During the quarantine time 4-6 weeks, you medicate the fish with medication protocol?
I've just finished these days to treat a severe attack of Clomunaris that killed almost 70% of my population, it will be very helpful if you could create more videos about different fish diseases (Colmunaris, internal/external parasites etc' and how to treat them) I will be gratful for this kind of information.