Budget Pedal Kayak vs Premium - Pelican Catch 130 Hydryve Vs Hobie Outback 2019

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Would buy the Hobie Outback 2019 probably the best fishing kayak out there right now or save a boat load of money and get the Pelican Catch HyDryve 130? Buy Bixpy JET using this link https://lddy.no/3lfb Bixpy Jet is a lightweight Kayak Motor that can give you a boost when you need it. Shop our Amazon Store: https://amzn.to/2KeYIwP Support the Channel Directly Via Donations PayPal: http://bit.ly/2R7HNnu Mailing address PO Box 700899 Miami, FL 33170 Subscribe for awesome fishing content: https://goo.gl/4tZtal YouTube SUPER TOOL: https://www.tubebuddy.com/AliexFolgueira Thank you for taking the time to read this and watch this video, and If you have any tips or want me to make a video about a certain fishing topic, drop a comment below! Socials: Twitter: aliexfolgueira Instagram: aliexfolgueira Facebook: aliexfolgueira Twitter: afishingtv Instagram: afishingtv Emails: afishingtv@gmail.com THANK YOU! Aliex Folgueira *This description contains affiliate links, when purchasing products using these links, this channel will get a tiny little commission back, thanks*

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Koala Plays Games
Koala Plays Games - 3 years ago
First lol
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Love it!
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Outback is $1300 more, so that right there is a huge factor
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Thanks buddy
Chapin Fowler
Chapin Fowler - 3 years ago
Will the hobie drive fit in the hydrive hole?
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Ohh yeah I did some testing here https://youtu.be/LkXFuGznJvI
Shawn Wilson
Shawn Wilson - 3 years ago
What is the length of the pelican tank well (stern)
Bo Wagoner
Bo Wagoner - 3 years ago
A peace of pvc 1"pipe for a spacer will fill the gap in the seat and make it tight.
J G
J G - 3 years ago
Thanks for putting out all these videos on the Catch 130HD! I've been waiting for more details on the kayak since they were first announced. Ive fished out of a friend's outback numerous times and love it. For as often as I get out and kayak fish though, I'm finding it hard to justify spending that much money on one. The pelican is definitely at a price point I'm interested in and would be willing to sacrifice a few extras to keep cost down. I've been using a non-fishing sit inside kayak to fish for the last 5 years, anything would be an improvement. The pedal drive kayaks appeal to me mostly for the ability to easily troll and cover longer distances in less favorable conditions.Keep the videos coming, thanks!
Rip A Lip Man
Rip A Lip Man - 3 years ago
The 2019 hobie outback is the best kayak fishing platform ever designed a pelican kayak will never come close to that and that is final
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Yeah but a Ferrari may be the best car ever but not every one will be able to buy it
Terry Grier
Terry Grier - 3 years ago
Those are your Gary V shoes eh?
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Ohh yeah it costed me a $250 lunch at vidsummit last year

10. comment for Budget Pedal Kayak vs Premium - Pelican Catch 130 Hydryve Vs Hobie Outback 2019

Kayak Fishing SoCal
Kayak Fishing SoCal - 3 years ago
No reason to buy a budget kayak when guy can get the grade A for the same price slightly used. Of course it very by region but around CA a 2017 outback can be had for about $1600.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
If you can get a deal
George Reid
George Reid - 3 years ago
Whats your end goal, flood the tube with bad video reviews of the same vessel? I am glad to say I will not be buying one of these because of your many (terrible) videos on the Pelican, but because of the country of origin
George Reid
George Reid - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira sure thing
George Reid
George Reid - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira Amazing Reviews! Certainly are full of yourself, amongst other things. You struggle with many things in life, that you make apparent.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Dude what's wrong with you? Having such a bad taste!? My video reviews are amazing! Are you OK? Have a nice day buddy. Also Canadiens are nice people Btw
Chuck Peacock
Chuck Peacock - 3 years ago
Sorry, don't want to be negative - the Pelican is nice for the price, and has lots of space but beyond that the finish is like an old 1970's naugahyde sofa and it's slow. I'd put in extra money for the Compass or maybe a better comparison would be with the Riot Mako 12. Doesn't have the room of the Pelican, but a good hull design, relatively light and I think it would be quite a bit faster. Also better for a surf launch.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Hopefully we get those riots in for testing, I'm enjoying my pelican, wanna surf test it
BassGeek
BassGeek - 3 years ago
It's crazy the price difference but both good boats.
Bobby G
Bobby G - 3 years ago
I think if Pelican redesigns the stern to be 4 inches narrower to cut back on the drag/noise I think they would dominate the budget kayak market...still not a bad boat for the price
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Yessss please!! It creates drag. Make it narrower
Lesh Johnson
Lesh Johnson - 3 years ago
I'm very impressed w/ the Pelican for the $. I wonder about the life span of the HD, it's hull insert... & how much abuse can it take...like hitting a stump in the water... ( I have done that a few times w/ my Hobie... so far not a big deal to fix) But I'm still keeping the Pelican Catch HD130 on my list ... for now... I want to see how it compares the Compass & the Lightning Strike
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
I'll compare it to the compass soon, I think this drive will not be as rugged as the Hobie one but pelican has great customer service, let's see how it handles it over time
TNVolFisher
TNVolFisher - 3 years ago
Another awesome video, amigo. I love my PA 14, but between these 2, hard to beat the pelican for value
TNVolFisher
TNVolFisher - 3 years ago
Aliex Folgueira agreed
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
In terms of value for sure the pelican wins, but the outback is the more refined yak but it costs a bixpy and a fish finder more
Radian327
Radian327 - 3 years ago
Pelican should be compared to a Hobie Compass Not to the outback.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Why? Let's see hobie outback and pelican 130 are about the same length, width and weight, use similar propulsión systems
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Cool boat no doubt
Tim Percy Kayak Fishing
Tim Percy Kayak Fishing - 3 years ago
I assume the Pelican molding process isn't strong enough to handle the drive system, so they needed to make the insert to handle the force of the drive.
Pelican International
Pelican International - 3 years ago
Actually, the reason we decided to build independent housing is to ensure that the boat is never damaged by the pedal drive. It makes any housing issues easy and fast to repair. Plus, it leaves us plenty of flexibility for the development of future fun things! ;-)
Triberius
Triberius - 3 years ago
The molding process isn’t the issue, Pelican uses twin sheet thermoforming and not rotomolding. Basically a Pelican kayak is made in two halves then welded together. The sheets can’t stretch enough without making them too thin to create a port for the drive. The insert seals off the internal gap between the sheets inside the hull, stiffens the deck and hull, and provides a more rugged point for the peddling motion to apply stress.
Tim Percy Kayak Fishing
Tim Percy Kayak Fishing - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira Hobie Worlds 8 is July 24-26. Yes they will have about 50 Hobie Pro Angler 14's all rigged up for us. They have them all lined up with each competitors name and country flag on them.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Lol when is the championship? Do they have the hobies for you there waiting? I wonder how that works, vlog. It
Tim Percy Kayak Fishing
Tim Percy Kayak Fishing - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira No, I'm happy with my real Hobies. ;)
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Interesting, are you going to try one Percy?

20. comment for Budget Pedal Kayak vs Premium - Pelican Catch 130 Hydryve Vs Hobie Outback 2019

Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
I'll check it out at wa
David Crowson
David Crowson - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira I'll see if I can find it it was a $4 stadium cushion made by Ozark trail at Walmart in sporting goods. And it was water repellent
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
David, do you have a link for the cushion?
Mal Drury
Mal Drury - 3 years ago
Great review Aliex. The Hobie looks sleeker and faster. There is a lot of comments regarding reverse on the drive system. I think the Hobie reverse system is a bit of a gimmick to match the competition. If reverse was really important to you then better to buy a kayak with the bicycle type drive. Hobie should offer the Outback with the GT drive as an option and lower the price.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
The mirage drive reverse feels weird at first but after you use it for a while it gets easier I do use it a lot but nothing like instant reverse for sure
Mel and Adam's adventures
Mel and Adam's adventures - 3 years ago
The main drawback with the pelican is that I can see is it doesn't have a port for a sounder or did I miss it? It's called a catch but no sounder port very strange or am I blind Alex? Also new video from us on Monday hopefully snorkeling at our local spot with bikini girl Melly.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
The way it is constructed I don't think it allows them to do that
Mel and Adam's adventures
Mel and Adam's adventures - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira yeah but that's super messy those arms and just another thing to get in the way of your fishing line. For a Yak of 2499 dollerydoos in Australia I think it is should come with a sounder port, even my old Malibu jobby has one.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
It only has two scupper holes but no transducer hole, but you can easily add a transducer arm using a railblaza kit
Triberius
Triberius - 3 years ago
it doesn't have a transducer mounting recess in the hull, but a Scotty #141 transducer mounting arm is only like $35. I bought the Pelican, and that is what I ended up doing. The nice part was the transducer arm has a gearhead on the top allowing you to use their universal fish finder mount ($15) for the head unit eliminating the need to run a lot of cable with the limited hull access on the Pelican. There is a downside to the Hobie, it is designed only for most Lowrance products, if you want a Garmin, Hummingbird, or Raymarine etc. it may not mount in right out of the box leaving you to modify the mounting point or bracket, and depending on the transducer style, it may not fit in the recess without paying for an aftermarket cover plate. I also don't believe using the in-hull recess you can't use a side scanning fish finder.
e6400ultra
e6400ultra - 3 years ago
I like the separate hull insert Pelican used for the Mirage Drive. The Hobie hulls crack in that spot sometimes. With the Pelican, you can probably just replace the insert, if it cracks.
Pelican International
Pelican International - 3 years ago
@e6400ultra, you're absolutely right! That was one of the motivating factors leading us to develop independent housing for the HyDryve. :)
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Correct!! Wow I didn't think of that good job
Sarge's Adventures
Sarge's Adventures - 3 years ago
Almost bought the Pelican but, no reverse was crucial for me ....
Went for the Outback instead.
I love the Outback but, this new one is def thinner in the hull that previous years, you can feel the plastic is just not as thick and flimsy... hopefully not an issue in the future.
I love the rails and storage on the Outback, rigging dream.
Good vid brother, I can not wait for the snow and Ice to go away so I can get my filming on the water done.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Yup reverse is important, the plastic on the outback flexes for sure
Long Le
Long Le - 3 years ago
Fly pelican. Fly!
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Lol
Shane Brooks
Shane Brooks - 3 years ago
Do you think the Hobie (compass) worth the $449 more than the catch 130 hd?
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Regular compass? Nop I don't think so
Kris Kuehn
Kris Kuehn - 3 years ago
Any word on the Lightning Kayaks?
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Nothing yet I'm working on it

30. comment for Budget Pedal Kayak vs Premium - Pelican Catch 130 Hydryve Vs Hobie Outback 2019

A User
A User - 3 years ago
Some other things that might not have been mentioned.


1. Hobie is most likely faster that the pelican, due to the difference in drives and hull design.


2. Seat quality, if I am not mistaken the hobie seat looks like it is made of ABS plastic, the pelican seat looks like it is made of metal.


3. The pelican rudder system has metal wires for control, the hobie looks to have some sort of poly rope?


Personally I am going to buy a Catch 130 hd, as I really like the stronger, lighter plastic that they use, and all the features that are offered for 1500.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
The pelican is slower due to the wide stern, I tested it.
I like the seat on the pelican better more confortable
Hobie rope is better for saltwater applications because the metal will rust soon, it last about a year or so
Outdoor Cory
Outdoor Cory - 3 years ago
That Hobie is Filthy! I think it's time for another Amazing Super Clean wash video!
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Lol I know!!! I should clean it up again with super clean!
sloshyjoe
sloshyjoe - 3 years ago
Can't find the video where you tried the mirage drive system on the pelican HD
Bradley Miller
Bradley Miller - 3 years ago
This is a great video series. The Pelican looks like a fantastic option for alot of people.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
100% for people who don't want to spend much this is a nice pedal yak
Bradley Miller
Bradley Miller - 3 years ago
Why did you blur out Hobie when close up to the front hatch?
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Lol
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Has some personal info
Tommy Youngenfelter
Tommy Youngenfelter - 3 years ago
Next video ON THE WATER COMPARISON?
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Like a speed race? Stability dual?
PGH Bottom Feeders
PGH Bottom Feeders - 3 years ago
Nice video and overview of the kayaks
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Thanks buddy
Fishing Fan-at-ic!
Fishing Fan-at-ic! - 3 years ago
Never been impressed with pelican hulls have used them and they are very thin. Also have been seeing several video pop up about drives breaking on the pelican. I Personally wouldn’t trade
my hobie for 10 pelicans.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
I can see that the drive needs some refinement, mine have been working fine I'll do more testing for sure
Aviario Los Niños.
Aviario Los Niños. - 3 years ago
Qué tal Aliex. Yo fui el que te saludo esta mañana a las 6:40 en el Turpike. Soy suscriptor tuyo. Parece que no me entendías. Mi nombre es Jeosvany. Saludos.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Que casualidad no? Esa canoe esta buena mañana la vamos a virar yo y mi niño, saludos a tu hija
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Hola! Disculpa tal ves estaba medio dormido Haha, al. Final te pase al lado y salude no creo que me viste
Tracy miller
Tracy miller - 3 years ago
Try doing a max weight before they sink no one does it!!!!! Please btw your videos are awesome thank you!!!!!!
Tracy miller
Tracy miller - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira please try to do it I think it would be cool because the manufacturer doesn't show how they get the max capacity would love to see it thanks. You rock!!!!
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Brooo I been wanting to do that! 500# of cement blocks which I had my pool
mario hill
mario hill - 3 years ago
Can you put turbo fins on the pelican drive system just curious.
Robert Buckley
Robert Buckley - 3 years ago
Not yet. Maybe once pelican releases their own version because the Hobie ones are not compatible
Pelican International
Pelican International - 3 years ago
+mario hill That's really weird... We can confirm that the maximum weight capacity of the The Catch 130HD is 425 lb. :)
mario hill
mario hill - 3 years ago
Yes I think it's not a problem. I've been wanting to get a kayak and I've been watching your videos I've been looking at the pelican and wasn't too sure because I went to sport's academy and on there tag it said 350 Max weight. But I've seen different Max weights on different videos I'm a bigger guy 280 and was wondering if this would fit me ok only freshwater.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
I think it is an easy fix for the chair, what do you think?
Chris Hollenhors
Chris Hollenhors - 3 years ago
Get bar ends for bicycle handle bars you can get the press ins wich are normally a polymer or get the screw in wedge blocks wich ar normally easier to plug into smaller pipe for the slop in the pelican seat
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Thanks Chris I'll look into it
All The Hobbies
All The Hobbies - 3 years ago
Thanks for the side by side. I really didnt see anything to justify that $1300 difference in price. Maybe the drive but if the Pelican can accept the Hobie drive that is an even bigger selling point for the Pelican.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Bixpy added to pelican boom!
Frank O
Frank O - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira Those extras are not $1300 dollars worth. for that much I would add a bixby drive and add to the Pelican and have both electric and pedal power.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
The mirage drive works great with the pelican for sure. You do get some extra goodies on the ob, but maybe it is not needed
vagabond88817
vagabond88817 - 3 years ago
I like the pelican because of our avian ancestery’s
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
They are always around
ADDICTEDJR3
ADDICTEDJR3 - 3 years ago
Love the video!!! Can you compare the actual peddle drives side by side. I saw this one video where the pelican drive was having issues with their screws eating away some of the plastic... Pelican replaced what was needed for the customer and has replied to the youtuber, has been promised changes in the future...
Pelican International
Pelican International - 3 years ago
+ADDICTEDJR3 Lol, we meant great concern as in an that's a good point to bring up! ;-) As it appears to be two isolated cases so far we are confident that it is not a major issue running through the full production. Plus, we've have taken measures to address all concerns from those who have had any issues and incorporate fixes for future production :)
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
No need to apologize bro, that's why we make these videos, to make sure you have as much info as possible to make better decisions
ADDICTEDJR3
ADDICTEDJR3 - 3 years ago
I apologize if I have raised a great concern about the peddle drive... I'm trying to find out more about the hobie drive compared to the pelican before I make my final decision on which kayak I will be purchasing...
Pelican International
Pelican International - 3 years ago
Hey @Addictedjr3, you raise a great concern. As of right now, only two people have reported having the issue where "their screws eating away some of the plastic". Russel Huff, is the one who created the video you see on YouTube and he has not re-experienced that issue on his new pedal drives. ;-)
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Im 5.11 but I'm weird like, I had no shoes on that plays a a role, I'm gonna have my son try it
ADDICTEDJR3
ADDICTEDJR3 - 3 years ago
How tall are you Aliex? I'm 5' 3" and in one of your vids I remember you saying that it feels like you can't reach the peddles or you were uncomfortable... I believe you said you were on the last setting to bring the peddles closer ...
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
I will do that soon, I wanna put lots of miles on this drive tomorrow
Kyle Jeter
Kyle Jeter - 3 years ago
Hey aliex i got the pelican catch 130 love the kayak being a big at 280lb 6'2 the pelican does great in the marsh and also the plus side i saved lots of money and got me new pfd and other gear for my kayak
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Ctug for the win!
Chris Hollenhors
Chris Hollenhors - 3 years ago
Good to know especially since I cant afford a hobie and I'm a bigger guy like you
Kyle Jeter
Kyle Jeter - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira no lie was able to buy a c-tug cart for yhe kayak new paddle hell even a new reel lol
Kyle Jeter
Kyle Jeter - 3 years ago
+Chris Hollenhors its not a hobie but it hold it own with the big name brands out there
Kyle Jeter
Kyle Jeter - 3 years ago
+Chris Hollenhors it does really good you really cant go wrong with the pelican catch 130
Chris Hollenhors
Chris Hollenhors - 3 years ago
How does it do on rivers with other boats going by?
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
That's the key right there, buying a cheaper boat allows you to save some $$ for much needed accessories
Randy Provost
Randy Provost - 3 years ago
Do think I could put a larry chair in the rear of the out back so my 6 year old son could go fishing with me on the 2019 outback?
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
For Sure bro

50. comment for Budget Pedal Kayak vs Premium - Pelican Catch 130 Hydryve Vs Hobie Outback 2019

The Fishing Family
The Fishing Family - 3 years ago
Aliex Folgueira LOL!!! I swear I’ve been thinking about ‘painting’ my stupid Lifetime kayak!
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Haha maybe I should do a custom paint job on it
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Yeah the color is not my fav but I kinda like the ugly looking look it is different! Lol you need to move to FL, year round kayaking
freestyle yaaj
freestyle yaaj - 3 years ago
Already press the like button before the video start. Good job Alex you’re doing a great job! Keep the videos coming.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Amazing!!! Love it, thanks brother
fischfreak
fischfreak - 3 years ago
You have to use both for 500 hours any make a review again....

After this review the pelican won
Triberius
Triberius - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira See about doing a collaboration with Marty Zoffinger.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
I have lots of hours on the outback, pelican needs to spent more time with me
fischfreak
fischfreak - 3 years ago
I heard that pelican bougt the pedaldrive from hobie is this true?
sloshyjoe
sloshyjoe - 3 years ago
The hobie patent expired so anyone can use it now, this is the old drive system not the new one they're using now.
fischfreak
fischfreak - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira ok. Thanks for this information
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
I don't think so, this drive is made I china, i bet they are mass produced
Rainier Pomeranians
Rainier Pomeranians - 3 years ago
Thanks for this Aliex! Great comparison. I could not find your video where you put the Mirage 180 in it though. Does it simply just drop in? Is it faster with it?
Rainier Pomeranians
Rainier Pomeranians - 3 years ago
Aliex Folgueira thanks!
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Just drop in, I'm gonna publish that one soon
L W
L W - 3 years ago
Great comparison. The review definitely makes the pelican look like a good contender, especially for the price point. I do have some concerns of the construction of the pelican though. I don’t have any issues with the seam, just like with woodworking, the glued areas are typically stronger than the non glued areas. However, my wife does have a pelican trailblazer, cheapo 200 dollar sit in kayak made from their RamX plastic. Very light and convenient, but very thin Hull. I’ve never looked into their sit on tops, how’s the Hull thickness on the pelican compared to the hobie ? If it’s as thin as the trail blazer I’d be worried around eventually wearing or denting/puncturing the hull.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
I have the trailblazer as well, I turned into a go kart kayak. I may do some drilling into it and see how thick it is
Chris Pilot
Chris Pilot - 3 years ago
The likely reason for the drive mount insert in the Pelican versus the molded in mount on the Hobie is because the Pelican hull isn't rotomolded and is two pieces. It would be difficult to mold the mount into a two-piece hull.

I think Hobie is the most inflated brand in the world. There's simply no reason for it to be at least 2x the price of their competition -- Native, Wilderness, Feelfree, etc.
Pelican International
Pelican International - 3 years ago
+Chris Pilot Thanks!
Chris Pilot
Chris Pilot - 3 years ago
+Pelican International that's a much better design! I know numerous people with Hobie's that have had cracks develop (from stress, impacts, etc.) in the mount area of the Mirage Drive, and it resulted in the entire hull being replaced. Pelican has taken a much smarter approach.
Pelican International
Pelican International - 3 years ago
So one of the reasons we chose to produce a separate housing is to allow for future flexibility as well as to make it possible to replace and repair the housing easily if ever it is overly stressed or is damaged.
Chris Hollenhors
Chris Hollenhors - 3 years ago
Something I've heard about the hobie brackets as well is they come loose due to the looks being the only point of contact so as you pedal the locks are essentially the flex point and with pelican having the lock style they have if it becomes damaged you can easily replace the damaged locks instead of having to figure out how to ship the hobie and be without your yak
All The Hobbies
All The Hobbies - 3 years ago
Totally agree on the price of those Hobies. I could see Pelican using that drive insert as an advantage in the future. I mean they really could develop a drop in electric drive that would just bolt right into that existing well. Or an insert that allowed you to mount any trolling motor in that hole. They would dominate with that versatility.
SPOTLIGHT INSPECT PLLC
SPOTLIGHT INSPECT PLLC - 3 years ago
Chris Pilot TRUTH
allan henry
allan henry - 3 years ago
With the increase in cost yearly that Hobie does, they should have done a better job of getting their kayaks waterproofed. Especially since the yak is advertised to be an offshore sailing vessel. I am still not sold on Pelican with its rivets vs bolt ins qnd the shell is made. Weld seams still weaken versus a roto mold. The Lightning Strike has everything the Hobie says less reverse and is 1000.00 less expensive.
Triberius
Triberius - 3 years ago
You can crush a Hobie with the pressure needed to break that seam. Rotomold kayaks use a softer plastic and have inconsistencies in the hull thickness.
Lesh Johnson
Lesh Johnson - 3 years ago
waiting to check out the Lightning Strike also.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
I need to get my hands on the lighting for sure
Len Dog
Len Dog - 3 years ago
I’d go with the pelican without question!
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
That's right
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Pelican is a nice boat for sure, not as fancy though
A. J. Paris
A. J. Paris - 3 years ago
If I'm in the market I'd pay 500 more for the Hobie compass
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Reverse is very useful for me for sure
Cory Hamilton
Cory Hamilton - 3 years ago
one advantage with the Compass is you can upgrade to Turbo Fins or 180 drive.
A. J. Paris
A. J. Paris - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira haha long winter here in KY. Snowed this morning no hurry on purchase. I would go ice fishing but we never freeze long enough.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Def gonna be a huge upgrade, hope you get it soon
A. J. Paris
A. J. Paris - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira I'm looking at used and since I have a big truck either will work. I am leaning toward the 12 if I find the one for me. I'm going from a sit in 10ft. So it's gonna be a huge upgrade. I appreciate all of your reviews over my last year of looking.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
12 or 14?
A. J. Paris
A. J. Paris - 3 years ago
I'm PA bound.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Compass is a nice boat too
Blue Collar Fishing
Blue Collar Fishing - 3 years ago
As the blue collar guy I cannot get over the 1300 dollar price difference in these boats. I realized the Hobie has some advantages and is built a little better but I can't see more than a grand worth of extras in the two. Maybe do a comparison to the compass ? More apples to apples. For me in this one the price difference alone wins this round for Pelican to me..
Blue Collar Fishing
Blue Collar Fishing - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira I'm not sure if they can with the current drive system would depend on the extensiveness of the patent.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
What if they make their own?
Cory Hamilton
Cory Hamilton - 3 years ago
the Pelican 180 clone I think is way off. I don't believe that paten expires for awhile.
Blue Collar Fishing
Blue Collar Fishing - 3 years ago
+David Groves if they are going to use the Hobie mirage drive design for that than that will be a few more years. I honestly haven't found the quick reverse in Hobie that quick in the ones I've been on a test day on. For fishing thou I don't own one yet seems the pedal drive is best for getting there and just use a paddle to turn around or move around silently better. I agree with you on with increased competition benefits consumers making more affordable option s in the market.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
I need to do a comparison with the compass too for sure
David Groves
David Groves - 3 years ago
+Blue Collar Fishing Once they offer a reverse feature in the Pelican catch drive its going to force a drastic price reduction in the competitors pedal drives..This Kayak and others are just the opening salvo..
The 2020 offerings will be quite interesting..
Blue Collar Fishing
Blue Collar Fishing - 3 years ago
You could almost but two of the pelicans for 1 of the Hobie that also wins to me as you get someone else on the water I'd you're looking to spend that much
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
Let's go
Mr Nurbtastic
Mr Nurbtastic - 3 years ago
Hey Alex, I might be wrong but I think the rivets you are referring to on the Pelican are actually Alan or Torx bolts. They look removable to me but obviously I don't have a physical kayak here to look haha. xD
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
I have been thinking of doing something like that too so I can have bixpy there... The handles being using rivets is not a great idea nor the rudder
Triberius
Triberius - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira I noticed the mounting plate for the rudder is riveted in as well, I'm thinking about ordering some 3/8" thick HDPE and making backing plates for it and the bow and stern carry handles and replacing all the rivets with panhead bolts and locking nuts. I'd rather spread the pressure out along a larger section of the hull wall than rely on expansion pressure from the rivets on a small surface area. It should reduce the risk of cracks.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
They are rivets and I though about replacing them with bolts and washer and nuts
Triberius
Triberius - 3 years ago
+Aliex Folgueira If you add a front hatch you could always drill out the rivets and replace them with bolts and add a backplate for extra strength.
Aliex Folgueira
Aliex Folgueira - 3 years ago
I'll take a look at it again, they look like rivet

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