Homemade Trolling Motor for Hobie Mirage Drive Kayak

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KayakDIY - 7 years ago

SUPPLY LINKS
Watersnake T24-SW Trolling Motor (shown in video):
http://amzn.to/2o3EEpt
Hobie Cassette Plug:
http://amzn.to/2o8ahik
12v Batteries:
http://amzn.to/2nJp4Pv

Tools Used
Dremel
Drill
Pipe Cutter (not used but easier)

Build Time:
30 minutes

My Total Cost:
Under $165

Tutorial on How to Build a Trolling Motor for Your Mirage Drive Hobie Pedal Kayak. Save nearly $1800 and build your own setup instead of buying the Hobie Evolve Torqueedo motor.

Below is a list of other motors that could be used in the same manner. We recommend the T24-sw because it is the most powerful and actually is the same size as the T18s (both saltwater ready). However, here are some links to other trolling motors that fit into the Hobie Mirage Drive. The Sevylor and Coleman are freshwater motors. If using a freshwater motor in saltwater make sure to rinse thoroughly after use.

OTHER COMPATIBLE MOTORS THAT FIT MIRAGE DRIVE
Watersnake T24-SW Motor (most power):
http://amzn.to/2o3EEpt
Watersnake T18-S Motor (best 18lb thrust option):
http://amzn.to/2hfM2co
Sevylor/Coleman 18lb Thrust Motor:
http://amzn.to/2heFElH

saltNfresh kayak - 6 years ago

Will this 24 lbs thrust fits in the older Hobie outback mirage drive like the 2007 outback?

saltNfresh kayak - 6 years ago

KayakDIY ok thank you

KayakDIY - 6 years ago

Yes it should easily drop in.

Paul Rees - 6 years ago

I would suggest a pipe cutter >> same as you would use for copper pipe for cutting shaft

KayakDIY - 6 years ago

Yeah didn’t have one at the time. In more recent video I show that method of shortening a shaft.

Daniel Hoppel - 6 years ago

Try using a plumbers pipe cutter it will make a better cut when cutting the shaft

Mike B - 6 years ago

Very cool, but sucks to lose the peddling which would close to double the speed and just be alot more fun having both. A rear attachment point that keeps the mirage drive in place would be my ideal.

KayakDIY - 6 years ago

Thanks for sharing. I will consider making some videos to cater to viewers with your interest in maintaining functionality of pedals. Definitely feasible to do. This just worked well with existing steering and was the cleanest install option I found.

Larry Wj - 6 years ago

I wonder if it would make it alittle more water tight if you made a gasket fit around plug!

KayakDIY - 6 years ago

Certainly could. I haven’t had much water intrusion issues from around the plug. Thanks for the suggestion/idea though. It couldn’t hurt.

Larry Wj - 6 years ago

nice build! I wish you the best.

Timmy Pearson - 6 years ago

I need one will you make me one and how much

KayakDIY - 6 years ago

I would likely need $350 plus shipping. My time is incredibly limited lately. Hope you understand.

Kori Whitchurch - 6 years ago

what to make me on for my Nucanoe Flint

KayakDIY - 6 years ago

Check out the kayak trolling motors we have at our channel store:
Amazon.com/shop/KayakDIY

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Dan Maxwell - 6 years ago

Awesome video will be doing the same thing to my hobie quick question what mount and pole are u using for your gopro

KayakDIY - 6 years ago

Same one I did a video on. I show how I made it. Should be able to find it in my video list. Else search KayakDIY gopro camera pole.

thechosendude - 7 years ago

Doing this in Florida? You need to...
-Title the kayak as a boat (requires builders certificate/proof of ownership paperwork, which most people don't even have)
-Register the kayak with the state after getting title
-Have boater ID card since you're operating a motor boat
-Carry flares (or other signaling device) if operating in salt water, and noise signal (whistle is fine) in addition to your PFD

Albin Vading - 7 years ago

Speaking of the right tools... have you ever heard of a pipecutter?

flyerh flyerh - 7 years ago

You could use the head (control unit) as a remote unit without cutting the wires and Velcro it anywhere you like . That way you could have cut the pipe flush with the drive blank.

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+flyerh flyerh true. Considered that but liked the all in one setup. Might consider that for my Hobie Tandem Island. In upcoming month or so you can likely expect another hobie motor video with a added surprise. Playing with some ideas.

Joseph PaquetteJr - 7 years ago

Well I did it! I purchased the 24lb Water Snake. It works beautiful. I found that the motor wanted to turn so I placed both my feel on the side of the motor. Any one have any suggestions to keep the the motor in the straight position as I have a pro angler 14 ft. I might also add that having a paint stick to position the prop for take out works great or push the forward button to get the position correct for take out

Joseph PaquetteJr - 7 years ago

Thank you Sir

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

Joseph UdodoU you sir are an inspiration to many. Wish you healing and beautiful waters. Let me know if there are any other ways I can be of help.

Joseph PaquetteJr - 7 years ago

Thank you so much for the quick rely I know your a busy man. I will go to Lowe's today and look at L clamps. The motor on the kayak ran as smooth as a kitten. Having been diagnosed with leukemia and having my abilities decrease with lifting the kayak on to the trailer I am going to look at other options on perhaps using some pvc 6 inch and see if it will work on my skid boards by putting them on the edge of the skid boards for dropping and loading along with a wrench to crack it up. I am a VN vet and handicapped and I am not going to allow any increase in disability keep me from my pleasure. What you shared on your video was a breath of fresh air. Thank you very much Sir I sent two photos https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1248981375212369&set=pcb.1248981615212345&type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1248981375212369&set=pcb.1248981615212345&type=3&theater again thank you very much and now I am still able to teach others on how to enjoy a kayak on the water

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+Joseph UdodoU you can mount an L bracket to the plug and use a hose clamp to secure it to the motor shaft. That will help hold the trolling motor in line. Glad it is otherwise working well for you.

Rav mok - 7 years ago

very nice..... but not sure I can do this..... anyone willing to sell one?

Brad Wyatt - 7 years ago

Wanted to add 2 notes here after i have gotten more time on the water with mine recently. Go to your local paint store and grab one of the stir sticks! These are perfect when you want to remove the motor and the blades are sideways you can get them pointed up and down to pull it out easy. All i do is slide the stick along the cassette plug just aft of the locks, unlock the plug and pull it all up. saved me a ton of frustration and got the idea from the video of the evol motor, it has a bar that he pulled out after it was installed and it instantly hit me ooooooo thats what thats for.
second quick note, if you're looking for the motor and Justin's link is out of them, go to the Seaeagle dot com and look for it there. Go Easy!

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+Brad Wyatt thanks. I actually talked to SeaEagle at icast about this DIY mod. Encouraged them to keep up stock of motors.

Dale Stagg - 7 years ago

I really liked your trolling motor for your kayak. In fact, I made me one also after watching your method. I ended up however cutting off an extra 1.5" from your model. I cut as per yours, but went back later and took off another 1.5". I haven't tried it out yet in the water, however, it all looks to work great. My only issue is that if the propeller is not lined up jus right, I cannot remove the trolling motor to revert back to the pedals unless I get under the kayak to turn the propeller to remove ort hits the opening. It did it on the longer version as well as my shorter version. Do you have a method to remove the motor while inside the boat? Either way, thanks for the instructions, they were most useful.

Joseph PaquetteJr - 7 years ago

Putting a wood paint stick that you use to stir paint works very well just tape it on the kayak somewhere with airplane tape and bam its there when you need it. You can bump the motor on and off a few times till it lines up but I have found the stick just does the trick

Dale Stagg - 7 years ago

Oh, ok. Sad to say, I secured my plug to the shaft using epoxy putty. Will have to see if I can have a way to position it and possibly grind down the epoxy if needed to allow moving mine. I glued mint to prevent water from getting into plug from shaft area but likely not needed. I also have another plug in case I ever need it. Thank you!

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+Dale Stagg I was always able to reach through the drive and realign prop. My Hobie plug swivels on shaft for easy access to drive well.

no gu - 7 years ago

where can purchase this motor?

no gu - 7 years ago

Thanks for the reply.
Amazon does not have the motors now and don't know when they will.
Seaeagle seems to have them.
Is the prowler T30 just as good in salt water as the watersnake 24?
The mightymax battries that the link points to does not say DEEP CYCLE is that aproblem?

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+no gu try links in video description or seaeagle website.

Gyppor - 7 years ago

For anyone wanting to do this, I would suggest using a roller-type pipe cutter to cut the shaft, it makes it really easy to cut pipes with wires in them because the cutter is tightened incrementally by a tiny bit each time. That looks like a very clean setup for the kayak!
Have you tried these motors on larger boats? I have a 55lb motor on my 11' inflatable and it's bulky as heck for what it is, a backup/emergency motor to supplement my 15hp gas burner. I never use it past 40% power, so I was considering one of these little guys.

KayakDIY - 6 years ago

Per your comment I made a quick video showing the tubing cutter method for shortening a trolling motor shaft.
VIDEO TUTORIAL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OsYElFbtb4
Tube Cutter: http://amzn.to/2DviDI3

Kayakin Bassbusta - 7 years ago

Gyppor yep works much better thats what I use

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+Gyppor I have never used more than the 24lb thrust on any kayak. Any larger motor doesn't really produce more speed just more thrust to move more weight up to same speed faster (aka acceleration). These motors are more efficient and I can use lighter batteries. Pipe cutter is handy but still need something to create notches on pipe.

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James Mi - 7 years ago

Awesome video! Any suggestion where to get T24SW? Also, what is the best battery option for it? I have a Hobie Outfitter (tandem). Thanks a lot!

302240sx - 7 years ago

should have used a pipe cutter.

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

Yes..would have certainly been easier. I must be the only one without a pipe cutter. Haha. I have heard that comment over and over. I use what I have, but might need to pick one up. Thanks for the tip nonetheless.

Brad Wyatt - 7 years ago

+KayakDIY i have seen the hole drilled through the front portion of the plug and wanted your thoughts. I understand it is to get the unit a few inches closer to reach but i was wondering if it puts any strange tension or wear on the parts of the cassette or motor itself? This as opposed to the way you did it through the center (Grey part) of the newer style plugs? Thanks!

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

I prefer to go through the center because it has more material to not only handle stress, but to bolt a bracket to for preventing the motor shaft from turning in plug. I also just think it looks better symmetrical. I don't think it would harm either way.

Brad Wyatt - 7 years ago

i went with the center as the black piece is really separate from the grey piece so i figure it would stabilize it a little better. i filled the center with expanding foam and will drill the hole through that as well,just more rigidity or at least thats what the plan is lol.

Tim Williams - 7 years ago

WARNING!!!! Before starting this build PLEASE CONSIDER THESE FACTORS!!!! Cutting 11.5 inches off will be a little short when incorporating small adjustments for drag of friction & making the most important correction when using only rudder steering. I Notice he fails to tell you that he has to use his feet to keep the unit straight. Use also a pipe cutter it's much more precise.cutting off only 10 or 10.5 inches works better for rudder control & friction of circular motion of water around the propeller spin at the bottom of hobie kayak. LASTLY THE BEST PRODUCT I FOUND TO KEEP THE UNIT FROM TURING ON ITS OWN, OR KEEPING IT STRAIGHT WITH THE MIRAGE INSERT IS CALLED A PEX CLAMP, MADE BY SHARK BITE. .25 cents a piece, 3/4 or 1 inch will work, use 2 #14 x 3/4 self taping hex head screw to attach. I put a thin pice of rubber strip in or lined the inside of clamp to better grip the motors shaft. Use a typical auto hose clamp around the PEX clamp to tighten, done!!! Cheap, light & very effective. FYI.

Joseph PaquetteJr - 7 years ago

Mr. Williams could you plz send me a pic of the Pex clamps Sir. Being handicapped I thought my kayaking days we're limited not any more. Thank you Sir here is a pic of my install currently
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1248965588547281&set=a.306230559487460.64773.100003015545273&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1248981375212369&set=pcb.1248981615212345&type=3&theater

jeremiah norng - 7 years ago

can you email me some pics? please

jnorng@gmail.com

Brad Wyatt - 7 years ago

yeah went and grabbed some but grabbed the 3/4" instead of the 1" which i need. thinking i might put one below and one above the plug. Is the alignment problem that it doesnt stay centered? Good Luck!!!

Brad Wyatt - 7 years ago

Thanks for the tips Tim! I am about to begin my build today so very helpful as i was debating the length to cut off. will go with the 10" and go from there, can always cut off more if i dont like it. The Pex clamp, i am trying to picture what your saying but think i am looking at the wrong clamp. they have the Pex clamps that basically look like pipe clamps or there are ones called PEX Suspension Tube Clamp? i see what your talking about tho and need a way to secure it in place from turning at all.

Michael Corbitt - 7 years ago

Could you suggest current motors that would work since this video is 2 years old? Thanks! Awesome video.

Michael Corbitt - 7 years ago

Ok I have the outback. I looked on Seaeagle.com and they have them in Stock. Thanks!

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+Michael Corbitt those are still current motors. Try Seaeagle.com and search "Watersnake T24". If you have any kayak other than the PA14 you could consider the T18 size.

David Cheaney - 7 years ago

So what did you do with the handle?

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+David Cheaney the handle telescopes in and out

Chuck Wilson - 7 years ago

I am looking at the motor mount trolling motors and at first glance they appear to be perfect for this type of setup. They include a wired speed controller and there is no shaft to deal with. I am trying to figure out if the Minnkoda EM 55 will fit through the mirage drive well. If not there may be smaller alternatives as well.

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+Chuck Wilson not even the Minn Kota C2 Endura 30lb thrust fit. Highly doubt the EM55 would. I thought I would damage the mirage drive opening due to force when trying to fit the Minn Kota 30. Watersnake ASP motors drop in easily without turning/twisting to make fit. Thus, I chose to use those.

Paul Molter - 7 years ago

what's the diameter of the motor

Paul Molter - 7 years ago

KayakDIY , do you recall the width of the mirage drive hole?

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

I don't recall any more. I sold it with that PA14. I now am planning another build for the Hobie Tandem Island but with a few tweaks for alternative power sources. The motor shown in video is awesome. It drops into the Mirage drive with room to spare. Other motors I tried were very tight fits. You will see some folks telling you that a MinnKota C2 Endura 30 fits, but it doesn't fit well at all. The Watersnake T24 and T18 are the best motors for weight and ease of fit into the Mirage drive.

paul56e - 7 years ago

you could have also used a plumbing pipe cutter to cut the tube

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+paul56e Yes. That is true. I used what I had at the time. Others can certainly use a pipe cutter if they have one. Thanks Paul56e

seanfishingtexas - 7 years ago

what was the cost to make that I know the Hobie trolling motor is as much as a kayak

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+Sean McEwen typically under $200 to make. I have made then under $180 when supplies are on sale.

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Trevor C Powick - 7 years ago

Great instructions. Just done mine. I used 27mm pvc pipe as spacers between the motor and block and again from the block to the control head. no up or down movement on the shaft.Thanks

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+Trevor C Powick thanks for the feedback and your thoughts.

Ian Jones - 7 years ago

its all good what you have done here its realy good and well thought out but all the shavings that you are creating by cutting and drilling the shaft are now traveling down the shaft to the motor and will be sticking to the magnets in the motor and depending on how much manages to get down there will depend on the longevity of your motor. food for thought.

gblan - 7 years ago

There is an internal seal above the motor.

Joseph PaquetteJr - 7 years ago

If you use a roll cutter ,,,,,,, there are no shavings a good tip would be to tip upside down and shake for a sec for the slit for the top of the motor but personally I did not see any chips or shavings on my build

Unreel Fishing Charters - 7 years ago

Hi I am fitting a t24 onto my kayak but on the side, not where the mirage drive goes. But what battery did you use? Could I use a normal battery but put it in a container to make water resistant? Plz let me know thx.

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

Sure you could use a regular trolling motor battery. I use the SLA ones linked in video description. Batteries don't need to be watertight, but in saltwater environments it helps to keep them in water resistant containers as it prevents rapid corrosion. These boxes are likely what you are referring to: http://amzn.to/2gAgdgo

Todd Andrew - 7 years ago

Killed it! nice job! and thanks for the video

Garrett Phillips - 7 years ago

did you have to get numbers on your boat even tho it's a kayak?

thechosendude - 7 years ago

Depends where you live. In Florida, legally you would need to...
-Title the kayak as a boat (requires builders certificate/proof of ownership paperwork, which most people don't even have)
-Register the kayak with the state after getting your title
-Have a boater ID card since you're operating a motor boat
-Carry flares (or other signaling device) if operating in salt water, and noise signal (whistle is fine) in addition to your PFD

Now, do people do all this? Nope...but they legally are supposed to. It's playing roulette if you ever get inspected. Could be big fines.

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

Many states will require you to register your kayak as a motorized vessel. It is usually cheap and doesn't take much. I know several folks who do it.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

Ed Jenkins: we received your email but were unable to reply to that address. Here is our reply.

We don't produce the trolling motor for the Hobie Mirage Drives, but we have had a lot of interest and have considered it. We at this time only show folks how to make them. Primary reason is we are looking into patent related infringements that could be filed if we go into production. The evolve torqueedo that Hobie sponsors might be too similar. Also we need to look into liability. It is a really easy build. A pipe cutter could make light work of shortening the shaft. There isn't much to wiring inside the head unit.

Sincerely,
Justin Lammers
KayakDIY

Janet Gonzalez - 8 years ago

Can you use the trolling motor to sty in one spot like when in a boat?

KayakDIY - 7 years ago

+Janet Gonzalez not really. You are thinking of GPS based anchor settings on some high-end trolling motors.

Aqua Gods - 8 years ago

very impressive. any ideas on what to use for my liquid logic duece coupe? ps this is so stealthy!!! 5 stars

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

Glad you like it. I am not readily familiar with the Liquid Logic Duece, but maybe you could make a drop in mount via some flush mount rod holders behind the 2nd seat/stern. Flush mount rod holders are easy to install. We show how to install them in another video. Then using PVC and a wooden board you can make a transom mount.

brandon cadalzo - 8 years ago

this is awesome! what kind of run time are we talking here?

Jesmine Ryckman - 8 years ago

I'm sorry I was meaning to refer to the angler 17t.

Jesmine Ryckman - 8 years ago

great build. why not put the trolling motor on the back and have the two pedal systems at the same time? wouldn't you have more power? just for thought. also, how can you make this build work for going a few miles offshore?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Jesmine Diaz first off there is only one pedal drive. I could put it on the back but it would possibly create a snag point for my fishing lines. I preferred it mid mounted in the mirage drive.

Juan Manuel Molina - 8 years ago

Thank You. I have not received my in the mail.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

No worries. It was a great question. Let me know if you have further questions I can answer.

Juan Manuel Molina - 8 years ago

Great video. I noticed that you did not reinstall the handle. How did you fill the hole where the handle came out of?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

The handle on that trolling motor telescopes in "flush" and telescopes out.

Charlie - 8 years ago

Great video. I actually made one of my own based on your video. Thanks!
Question...when you drilled the holes and cut the notches I noticed you had the shaft upright and any shavings would have fallen in the shaft that goes right into the motor... did you check this or have you had any issues with your motor due to the shavings? Just curious. Thanks.

Bob Creed - 8 years ago

hi KayakDIY.. Appreciate the post... I have a tandem PA17 and looking for something with a little more thrust...For fit comparison, What are the dimensions of the watersnake T24? 1) Diameter of motor housing 2) length from nose to rear facing motor hub 3) Diameter of prop. Really appreciate your help

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Bob Creed what you can do is take your Hobie plug cassette with you shopping. That will give you a point of reference for sizing.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Bob Creed don't have one on hand to measure at moment. What I can say is if you go bigger the motor guide brand motors might have a 30-40lb thrust similar in size. I chose the T24 due to it being ultra-lightweight and still able to propel my PA-14 reasonably well. Minn Kota C2 Endura 30 didn't fit the mirage drive and we didn't like how heavy it was. If you go with a larger lb thrust motor I highly suggest incorporating a PWM from wireless trolling pro website. It will give you a lot more run time.

Gerard Tsang - 8 years ago

The one in your video is no longer available..

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Gerard Tsang try seaeagle.com and search Watersnake T24. Hope this helps. Every once in a while our link sells out.

Gerard Tsang - 8 years ago

Do you know any saltwater trolling motor will fit into that Hobie as well?

Chuck Wilson - 8 years ago

Since the Control Unit only houses the switches do you think it would be feasible to eliminate it and run the wires to a couple of switches mounted on the kayak? My thinking is to minimize the amount of the motor protruding from the cassette. That is if i can get my hands on one of these motors, lol.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Chuck Wilson try seawall.com. They might have some in stock since our link in video description occasionally sells out due to popularity of video.

gaddkeltner - 8 years ago

What's the endurance with this trolling motor? How many hours on the water can I expect?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+gaddkeltner Using the battery I linked to in video description it lasts me most outings/afternoons. I have never timed it yet but have been very satisfied with efficiency. If you add a PWM from wireless trolling pro website it could cover you maybe 3x that.

gaddkeltner - 8 years ago

How did you store the 11" of wires after the shaft was cut down ? Just stuff it into the remaining shaft ? Too bad I can't buy one pre-made from you...

gaddkeltner - 8 years ago

Thanks....I think I'll buy the tools I need to do it. It will be cheaper than buying the modified motor, and I 'll have the tools as well !

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

Stuffed some of the wire back into the shaft. I have considered making these, but my time is valued too high to be able to produce them. If I could get family or friends to do them for extra income that would maybe work. I do know of some folks making them and selling them based on my design. They charge around $375-500 depending on some optional features like PWM. They are super easy to build with basic common tools. Instead of a dremel to cut the shaft a pipe cutter works easier, but you still need something to cut the notches in on the end of the shaft.

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Gerard Tsang - 8 years ago

I have a Hobbie Kayak and it has a hole for the paddle, I would like to know where can I get that thing which fits in the bottle of that hole and clam the Trolling Motor?

Gerard Tsang - 8 years ago

Thank you so much, perhaps the hardest part is to drill 2 holes on the cassette plug. Wish you had shown us too.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

All items/supplies are linked in video description below the video.

Noah Israel - 8 years ago

Do you get water in the cassette plug?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

Very little...I considered filling the cassette but rather think i may just drill some small holes so it drains quickly. I haven't gotten enough in my plug to be concerned or care enough yet to do anything;

djaqua a - 8 years ago

Re 24lb watersnake on hobie outback.What size 12v battery shpuld i use for it??.I had a 25amp on my 18lb. But 24lb????

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

The 35ah SLA batteries here work well. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&field-keywords=trolling%20motor%20battery&linkCode=ur2&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Atrolling%20motor%20battery&tag=ytk-20&url=search-alias%3Daps&linkId=FFRXMEOIV5LLF6PZ

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+djaqua a We have links to the recommended battery and supplies in the video description below the video.

paolo piroli - 8 years ago

hello and congratulations for the video really nice, I'm an Italian guy and I have a hobie outback and I was doing everything as shown in your video, but I have a probleme with the engine does not know whether the connections are within the correct cables for example ... the reverse is the most powerful of the forward is right ??

joseph nairb - 8 years ago

suggestion, instead of the cutter you used, try a simple plumbing copper tube cutter, it will work much easier and less dangerous as well.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+joseph nairb Definitely would be a more useful tool for the job but I didn't own one because I had no use for one until now.

Mitchell Lewis - 8 years ago

Great tutorial and tips on what to look for. I would offer the idea of using a simple pipe cutter to cut the pipe. It attachs on the pipe then uses a wheel cut to cut as it is rotated by hand. The cutting wheel will not cut the wires at all and you have better control then a dremmel. You don't need the pvc insert. Thanks for making this tutorial.

Mitchell Lewis - 8 years ago

Thanks again for the post.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Mitchell Lewis Agree a pipe cutter would make the shaft shortening process easier and cleaner but I would still need a Dremel to cut the notches in the end of the shaft.

ANDY WATTERS - 8 years ago

Just made this for my outback, works like a dream, thanks for the great tip's.

ANDY WATTERS - 8 years ago

+Sidney Womack purchased it at wwwAnglersworld.ie in Ireland.

Sidney Womack - 8 years ago

Where did you purchase the motor from? I can't find the Watersnake T24-SW Trolling Motor anywhere?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+ANDY WATTERS Happy to help! Glad you enjoy it. Please help us by sharing our channel with friends.

PaTricked Out - 8 years ago

I duplicated your trolling motor build but got tired of leaning forward to press the control buttons. I installed control switches beside my seat and a waterproof plug for the wires. Thanks for the inspiration!

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

Happy to help. We didn't want to separate the switches. We wanted an all-in-one stowable system. However, you are not the only one to mention that. At the end of the day do what works for you! Thanks for stopping by!

pairaboots - 8 years ago

Next time you need to cut tubing use a tubing cutter. you will not have to go with the extra step of using pvc and it will give you a better end .Not a jagged end and the wires will be protected .Great build !

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+pairaboots ABSOLUTELY! Having the right tool saves a lot of headaches and extra work. We figured most people would use a hack saw or similar method so wanted to show a method to protect wiring. Ultimately a pipe cutter would be the best tool.

Theodore - 8 years ago

Did your PA not come with the marriage drive?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Theodore Aniskoff Yes it came with one but I wanted a motor option for trolling baits. I also wanted to see if I could build one for a lot less than the Hobie torqueedo/evolve drives.

Anglers Pursuit - 8 years ago

When you remove the bolt on the shaft can you spin the head unit to make it a bow mount or do you need to fuss with the wires?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Anglers Pursuit ....Yes...you should be able to.

SeeMooreVids - 8 years ago

Thank you. After I posted, I went to state and it is a requirement. Nice site.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+SeeMooreVids Yep...depends where you live. Although usually it is really cheap.

SeeMooreVids - 8 years ago

Nice job.
Just wondering. Is a motorboat state registration required by using a power driven in a kayak? Probably a state by state ruling.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+SeeMooreVids You are correct it is a state by state ruling. It usually is super cheap though if your state requires it.

Joseph Blanco - 8 years ago

What size hole saw is that?

Joseph Blanco - 8 years ago

Cool deal...thanks! Great video.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Joseph Blanco I believe it was around 1-1/8". Not sure and can't measure at moment. I should put that in the video description as soon as I find out for sure. I'm on a road trip at moment and don't have it with me.

Jeffrey Watkin - 8 years ago

I just bought a kayak this weekend... so excited to add some custom rod holders... I have a graph and a rail system for rod holders when I troll, but I just watched your "tower" video and now I have more ideas haha! great stuff man, tight lines.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Jeffrey Watkin Thanks Jeffrey. We love PVC...It is a DIYer's dream material. We just built some PVC outriggers for a 10ft kayak and it worked amazing (I could stand up). Now the other folks on our canal have added them to their small kayaks so their grandkids can use them safer.

James Cullins - 8 years ago

I think you could have used a tubing cutter like plumbers use to cut the shaft without the PVC.

James Cullins - 8 years ago

Yeah, a lot of guys my not even know what one is. Good video

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+James Cullins We figured not everyone would have one so thus we needed to show how to cut the pipe without damaging wires. Also, we couldn't find our pipe cutter anyway. You are right...best tool for the job would likely be the pipe/tubing cutter.

Dee F Television - 8 years ago

Awesome video definitely have to try.

Dee F Television - 8 years ago

Well done

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Dee Fl Television This motor build has proven to be one of the best mods we have done.

Harri Raati - 8 years ago

hey do you know if there are any other engine that fits just as well as water snake 18-24 lb to the hobie kayak pro angler 12. ? i cant get the water snake t24 in my country. wannt in a bigger engine than 18lb .

H G - 8 years ago

Have you moved to Cape Coral yet ? Would you still be interested in building a trolling motor for me? I live in port Charlotte please advise

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+H G : Still very interested but looking into a supplier of the motor. The T24-SW motor has become increasingly difficult to get a hold of. They are still manufacturing it but USA dealers are hard to find at reasonable prices.

Joe Coppola - 8 years ago

is this possible for the Hobie Sport?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Joe Coppola This build is compatible with any Mirage Drive kayak including your Hobie Sport. Like all our builds...do so at your own risk.

Patrick Martinez - 8 years ago

Proposition - I buy the motor and have it shipped to the address of your choosing along with my 2015 Outback cassette plug. In return, I also include a check for 30 minutes (or an hour) at your labor rate, and include prepaid return shipping fees. Please let me know your thoughts on the offer.
pdmarty@gmail.com

Patrick Martinez - 8 years ago

+KayakDIY look forward to hearing from you on May 23 :-)

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Patrick Martinez We have another gentleman interested in us building one as well. We will certainly look into building them for people. At this time we only share our build plans and supply links. We will keep your request recorded. Come May 22nd we will be able to take on more contracts or work and will consider building these for folks.

Ramon Gallegos - 8 years ago

both of the amazon links are unavailable!

Ramon Gallegos - 8 years ago

awesome thanks, i would love to make this build

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Ramon Gallegos Yes...I noticed they are sold out temporarily. We are looking for alternative sellers. The links in the video description are the best priced places to buy the motors. However, you can check out SeaEagle website for them as well.

maddog2432 - 8 years ago

use a pip cuter next time

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+maddog2432 Absolutely agree, but must have misplaced mine. Also needed the rotary tool anyway for placing notches in pipe.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+manny m Amp draw should be 24amps peak on high. The slow speed would work great for trolling most lures/baits.

manny - 8 years ago

Thanks , a small battery will work fine then.

BBBYpsi - 8 years ago

how long can you run that motor before battery dies & what size battery do you have. I like your boat is not cluttered like alot of the ones I see are.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+BBBYpsi This is the smart charger I use for my portable fish finder battery and larger trolling motor battery. It is awesome but a bit pricey. It however has saved/revived batteries I thought were toast. http://amzn.to/1oLRLbO

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+BBBYpsi For typical outing I get by easily with this battery linked below. It covers me for a typical afternoon/evening of fishing. I also have used a group 27 battery that gets me all weekend use (on/off 50% fishing 50% trolling). http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&field-keywords=trolling%20motor%20battery&linkCode=ur2&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Atrolling%20motor%20battery&tag=ytk-20&url=search-alias%3Daps&linkId=FFRXMEOIV5LLF6PZ

scsmithx7 - 8 years ago

Are you selling love to bye it from you

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+scsmithx7 Looking into producing them. Testing market to determine fair price. Don't want to offend buyers but also have to value my time. That is why I don't mass manufacture a lot of what I make. I have a few people interested in them so I may considered building but would need to know what people are willing to pay. Just because you say you will pay even $600 doesn't mean I will sell it for that...I may only list them for sale at $300 if I deemed that I could (time/shipping costs/etc). Hope that makes sense. Thanks for the message scsmithx7

Travis Shedd - 8 years ago

I made 2 of these, I drilled 2 holes on top one of each side and used foam in a can for windows and foamed up the inside cavity of the hobie cassette, when cured and expanded it wraps around shaft inside and keep it from spinning, so you have forward or rear trust and no worries of holding it straight. use rudder to steer. great video.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Travis Thanks for your feedback and comment. That sounds like an option as well. We just weren't sure how the foam would last in saltwater over time.

H G - 8 years ago

Hello, I live in Port Charlotte myself. I want the biggest motor that is good for my outback. I'm willing to pay $500? I will sign a waiver for the build. Please help!

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

I am moving the KayakDIY channel to Cape Coral Fl this March. If you still don't have one then maybe I will consider doing the build and shipping it to you. I haven't forgotten about you. I just am in the middle of a lot of things. I also want to look into a few design ideas. This one works great but I have a few other ideas. Definitely message back mid March/April if you don't have anything by then.

Rick McClellan - 8 years ago

I understand making certain mods to your kayak, but a motor? Can you do a video on putting a galley and a berth on my yak.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Rick McClellan Hahaha. I do pack a small cooler and propane/butane stove. It works great for pulling up to one of the islands and cooking up my catches.

Laby 70 - 8 years ago

Only thing that sux about this is.... Once you do add a trolling motor to your kayak here. You have to register it the same as if it was a power boat.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

True, in many states that influences registration. You need to decide if it is worth it. I get a ton of use out of mine so it was totally worth it. Thanks for the comment and feedback!

George Zartman - 8 years ago

+KayakDIY thank you for taking the time to respond. I have one other question, I just purchased a Lowrance Hook 4 and am having trouble finding the best spot to attach the transducer. I have water several videos about it but still unsure about the location. I am toying with making an arm out of pvc and running it over the side or attaching it to the side of the front hull. Any suggestions?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

For a DIY build I would likely make a PVC arm and just have it hang over the side. The only other option that is popular is to use duct seal putty to seal it on the inside bottom of hull and have it read/shoot through hull. The pvc arm will lead to best results likely.

George Zartman - 8 years ago

I know this works great on the Hobie, but can it be modified to fit my 14' wilderness tarpon?

George Zartman - 8 years ago

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+George Hartman On a wilderness tarpon i would take this motor and remove the head control unit, extend the wires and do a stern mount with speed switches up by your seat. Eventually I plan to get videos on how to make stern mounted trolling motors. Just haven't had time to do it yet. Sometime later this year I will likely have a video on how to stern mount a trolling motor. All our tutorials have links to supplies in video description and we try to make them as simple to understand. You definitely can make a setup for your Tarpon kayak.

Are you paddling in freshwater or saltwater? These motors are great because they are saltwater compatible. If you are in just freshwater there is one other motor to consider for the build.

George Zartman - 8 years ago

I know this setup works great on the Hobie, but can it be modified to fit my 14' Wilderness Tarpon?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+George Hartman I have a guy rigging a Wilderness Systems ATAK with one and hope to have video on it in near future.

George Zartman - 8 years ago

I know your setup works great on a Hobie, but can it be adapted for my 14' Wilderness Tarpon?

George Zartman - 8 years ago

I know your setup works great on a Hobie, but can it be adapted for my 14' Wilderness Tarpon?

Mitch Lennon - 8 years ago

Trolling Amazon (pun intended) for the Watersnake T24-SW and it shows as not currently available. In case this make/model turns out to be discontinued, do you have a recommendation for a suitable alternative???

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Mitch Lennon Sorry for late reply. We get tons of comments. Amazon has Watersnake motor cheapest (linked in video description above) but if unavailable there are other options for a bit more. One is Ozasports and Sea Eagle. Thanks for stopping by Mitch.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Mitch Lennon It won't be discontinued...far to popular of motor. It is also still a pretty new product that they still showcase on the manufacturer site.

H G - 8 years ago

Any update for me?

David Dawson - 8 years ago

This may be a silly question, but what did you do with the hole where the twist handle was located at?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+David Dawson No problem. Thanks for the feedback and for stopping by. This year we will be rapidly expanding the channel and delivering some saltwater fishing action. We are relocating to Cape Coral Florida to fish the elusive waters around Matlacha Island. It is going to be a blast. We also have 3 budget friendly kayaks we will be rigging up for those who can't afford kayaks like Hobie, Native Propels, Etc. Pretty excited.

David Dawson - 8 years ago

+KayakDIY Thanks for the quick response. Nice setup by the way !

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

The handle on the motor telescopes in and out and actually doesn't twist for speed...it is only for steering. On Hobie's it isn't needed. I leave it telescoped in the housing and use the Hobie rudder.

remelsheikh - 8 years ago

Great video, but I cant find 24lb motor. The closest thing I found was the sevylor 18lb model which is the same as watersnake 18lb.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+remelsheikh We just bought another from Amazon (link in description) not more than a week ago. Must have just missed it. They haven't been too bad at restocking them. There are otherwise a few others in U.S that sell them but sometimes they charge more than Amazon.

H G - 8 years ago

Sir would you consider making one and selling it too me? I'm not able to build due to a handicap I have. I would be willing to pay you! My wife just purchase a LE outback 2016 I have number 180. Please let me know, I'm in south Florida. 941-350-9288

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+H G At "this time" I won't be able to build one. I could likely get to it around June/July. However, I have too many contracts that I am working on and a kayak fishing magazine. Also, I need to look into legal liability of building it for you. We don't normally build things for viewers but rather just show them our builds. If I did a build what size motor do you need and what are you looking to spend (price range). Just curious. I'm not actually greedy. I am just incredibly busy lately and we are planning on moving KayakDIY channel nearly 1,700miles across country to Cape Coral, FL. After May my schedule should improve.

H G - 8 years ago

+KayakDIY thank you so much!!! I would be one happy customer and you would be making a difference for someone that is challenged!! I hope you can help me!, I will pay so please know I'm not looking for free just looking for quality!!

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

I will look into it this weekend. I am actually moving to south Florida (Cape Coral) in April.

Dana Cooper - 8 years ago

Did you cut the wires.spllcing

Dana Cooper - 8 years ago

I had 11inches left.Just don,t cut the wires.

Pedro Grillo - 8 years ago

+Dana Cooper Can you please confirm how much of the steel shaft was left before i cut it? "measure twice cut once"
Thank you!

Dana Cooper - 8 years ago

Thank for the instructions.Just finished.Great setup for the outback.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

I didn't have to cut wires. I was able to push the excess wires back into the shortened shaft. You could cut the wires and shorten them. Either way it wouldn't hurt.

Sky1ine Cha - 8 years ago

What size is the PVC?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

We used 1/2" schedule 40 PVC. If you had a pipe cutter you could slowly score cut the metal shaft and not need the PVC. We didn't have a pipe cutter on hand so we used our Dremel tool. Lots of ways you can do it. Use what you have.

Andy Sjostrom - 8 years ago

A little food for thought next time you decide to cut down a trolling motor shaft like that buy a plumbers pipe cuter. you can find them at lowes, home depot or any hardware store for a alot less than that royobi wanta be dreamel. I've made the same cut down on 3 different trolling motors and I didn't need protect to my wiring like you just did. oh and the pipe cuter will cut the pipe in a fraction of the time that royobi will to. and your right having the "right " tool for the job does make a differeance.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

Pipe cutter would be the best tool for the job. Thanks for sharing.

Dana Cooper - 8 years ago

so the total length of shaft after cutting would be 12 1\2 long?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

Yes. That is what was left.

Zouheir Eid - 8 years ago

HI there, do you sell such motors? or do you know where we can buy them and ship to Dubai?

Zouheir Eid - 8 years ago

Hi Again, hope this finds you well
Are you selling the "modified build" yourself? i'm very much interested in buying the modified version as opposed to original motor. If i provide you with an address in US Florida, would it be possible to deliver then? If yes, please advise on overall cost and time for delivery. please provide your email details.

Thanks
Zouheir

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Zouheir Eid Think this might be the best option for shipping to Dubai. It is a T24s Watersnake motor with shipping to United Arab Emirates at $130 total ($80 motor, $50 shipping). Hope this works for you. Took me quite a while to find. If this helps you please share our channel and pages with friends. http://www.ozasport.com/products/Jarvis-Marine-Watersnake-Electric-Motor-ASP-T24-Transom-Mount-%252d-Kayak-and-Small-Boats.html

Zouheir Eid - 8 years ago

+KayakDIY Thanks for the reply! will be waiting for an update on that..Have a nice day

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Zouheir Eid : I can likely find you a distributed that will ship a Watersnake T24s motor to you for the build. It may take me a little bit. They likely will charge for the shipping (I estimate $50). However, I still might be able to get you one at a decent total price under $180. I think I can get you an answer by Sunday night/Monday morning.

Sincerely,
Justin Lammers
KayakDIY owner

Zouheir Eid - 8 years ago

+KayakDIY : thanks for taking time to reply! do you have disti's in Europe who can potentially ship to Dubai? if yes, kindly put me in contact with them. Much appreciated!

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Zouheir Eid: I will have to look around to find a distributer that will ship to Dubai. Watersnake motors are manufactured in Australia. We have a few sellers here in the U.S, but Dubai might be difficult.

SED71 - 8 years ago

im in the middle of making one using a little nitro engine. i am making one from scratch tho

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+smallenginedude71 Sounds fun! Thanks for stopping by.

Paul LeoGrande - 9 years ago

Great Video Just got my watersnake 24 and motor came out beautiful. Only problem is there is a hurricane coming up the coast and I can't try it out. Question on the motor : the insert has movement front to back and i was wondering if that's not a problem? Also,the top of the prop is 3" down from the underside . It that pretty much what your's came out to be? You mentioned turbulence if the prop was too low. Thanks

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

+Paul LeoGrande We didn't fill with foam but have considered it. Foam would need a few holes drilled for air to allow expansion. Foam sprayed in closed spaces won't expand. We are actually thinking of drilling drain holes to allow water that gets into plug to escape...that way when we stow the motor in hatch water doesn't drain into hatch.

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

+Paul LeoGrande So in relation to prop depth it should be ok at 3". Closer to the bottom of the hull the better. The plug moving front to back some shouldn't be a big issue as long as the trolling motor is vertical in the plug and the plug attachment points are secure.

Paul LeoGrande - 9 years ago

+Paul LeoGrande Also,did you fill the insert with foam after the build?

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

See link to motor in video description. It is currently on sale!!!! Only $119. Don't know how long the sale will last. Even at the original price it is a deal. This motor rocks!

Ed Brown - 9 years ago

Do you have a source for replacement props for the Watersnake T24-sw

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Ed Brown Amazon has had them. Also ebay.

The Salty Guru - 9 years ago

after you drilled the hole, how did you replicate the notches on the shaft? is there any way to do this without a dremel tool?

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

+The Salty Guru : A file or metal hand saw can work. Use what you have. No need to rush out and buy tools usually.

TheCelticStrength - 9 years ago

yes use a file

100. comment for Homemade Trolling Motor for Hobie Mirage Drive Kayak

mr.fisherman123 fishing 123 - 9 years ago

is this a good paddle boat

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+mr.fisherman123 fishing 123 This is the Hobie Pro Angler Mirage Drive Kayak. It is arguably one of the most innovative pedal kayaks on the market. It has tons of thrust with minimal effort via the mirage drive fins. We towed a 17ft powerboat back to dock last season using this pedal kayak.

mr.fisherman123 fishing 123 - 9 years ago

what kayak do u have

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+mr.fisherman123 fishing 123 This is the Hobie Pro Angler 14 pedal kayak. We have them for sale on our website www.KayakDIY.com/store.html They are a pricey kayak but are incredibly quick and the 14ft holds 600lbs of weight! They have tons of accessories and can even be sailed via integrated mast slot. We built our own sail.

patty mccord-silvis - 9 years ago

Thanks for the step by step process. One question. Did you fill the mirage plug for stability before drilling?

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

Didn't fill plug before drilling. The new style plug we link to is very rigid and well made.

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

Reminder. It is recommended to add some sort of sealant to inside of shaft to prevent water from running down shaft and potentially into the motor. We used a marine silicone but there are lots of products out there. Our motor actually had a plug already in the shaft about 6" from motor but some might not or they might not be sealing well. Thus, we recommend this secondary precaution by sealing the end of the shaft where wires come out. Hopefully this tutorial helps you get on the water and for some of you catch more fish.

Jeff Bonham - 9 years ago

Have you figured out yet how to fix it in a online position yet?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Jeff Bonham Thanks for the comment and suggestion. We always are open to learning from our subscribers. Hope it continues to serve you for years to come. We use the same one shown weekly and have had no issues yet.

Jeff Bonham - 8 years ago

+KayakDIY I forgot to thank you for making this video a while back but I made the trolling motor and it works great. Big thanks! It definitely has its uses on my kayak because it lets me cover ground while I'm standing which I need for sight casting. And also to sometimes just sit back and relax while going back to the launch. I fixed it in a forward position by cutting key seats into the cassette and just steer with the rudder like you said. Keep up the great work!

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

For the most part it wants to stay in a relatively inline position. I think I will likely get a small L-bracket and fix plug and shaft. Although I also could put pad eye inline on plug and run bungee through then have that slip over trolling motor steering arm to fix motor to inline position. That would make a quick detach option for in case I want to allow steering of motor. The Hobie rudder otherwise allows for plenty of steering.

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

@OscarEspinoza the hole saw size was 1-1/8" for that trolling motor shaft.

Dale Stagg - 7 years ago

The shaft is actually 1", so it could be cut out with 1" for a tighter fit.

oespo oespo19 - 9 years ago

Can you also share the size hole saw you used for the hobie cartridge.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Oscar Espinoza Hole saw size 1-1/8"

oespo oespo19 - 9 years ago

Thanks , i'm going to try this on one of my Revo's, one of the spots i fish has strong currents, this should help. what size battery do you use 40AH or 35AH and approx how long will it last?

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

+Oscar Espinoza Didn't see your comment till now. We use a 35ah usually and get all afternoon/evening use off/on (typical fishing). Haven't done in-depth tests on battery life.

Al0f1 - 9 years ago

Thank you very much fpr the video. Very helpful and i have watched all your videos and mimiced some diy youve done to yours. How are you steering? Are you steering with the trolling motor or with hobie rudder?

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

+Al0f1 You can choose to leave the trolling motor loose in the plug or fix it in an inline position. For the time being we left ours loose for added steering. However, we will likely be adding a bracket to hold it in a fixed position and steer entirely with the Hobie rudder. Steering with the Hobie rudder works well and is very responsive in both forward and reverse.

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

**ALL SUPPLY LINKS TO TROLLING MOTOR AND PARTS CAN BE FOUND IN VIDEO DESCRIPTION (click show more)!

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

@Oscar Espinoza: for the most part larger pound thrust won't equate to faster speed. Kayak hulls limit speed as well as prop pitch on the trolling motors limit speed. The higher lb thrust will allow for a little better ability to overcome choppy waters and high winds. The T24-SW surprised me with its capabilities. I checked my average pedal speed and found it to be 3mph most of the time...so 5mph top speed and average of 4.5mph was great for that motor I felt. I confirmed speeds with two different iPhone apps.

KayakDIY - 8 years ago

The mirage drive pedal drive is awesome. This is just another propulsion option for people. It is stowable in front hatch and nice for covering more ground. Hobie sells a mirage drive trolling motor but it is about $2k. This motor option can be made for 1/10th that price or less! I like the trolling motor for trolling baits. It keeps a steady speed.

Sanuske Sagara - 8 years ago

But great job overall looks like manufactured build

Sanuske Sagara - 8 years ago

But isn't the Mirage Drive to avoid trolling motor?

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

Jeff: the 4.5mph average was on high setting. Most trolling motors won't exceed that speed regardless of "LBs" of thrust due to propeller pitch and kayak hulls which limit top speed.

Jeff Bonham - 9 years ago

Is the 4.5 mph average on the low or high setting?

Mike V - 9 years ago

May I ask why did you pick this motor? Are there other motors that you would consider?

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

Check out video description below the video. We have listed all these details. Not a lot of options for trolling motors because of small mirage drive space. I was able to get a Minn Kota C2 Endura 30 to fit but it was super tight and the prop needed to be trimmed down about 1/8". The T24-aw is the perfect balance of power and portability and it fits in the mirage drive very easily.

TheHocmaster - 9 years ago

I allways wanted to try that... nice job!

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

+TheHocmaster Thanks. This setup works very well. Had done similar build a few years ago on one of the first mirage drive kayaks but it was heavier and a tighter fit. This one is ultra lightweight, more compact, more efficient, and saltwater ready.

Michael Shin - 9 years ago

Very nice work. What size battery are you running? A small solar panel can chare it a bit while fishing. Great for return to shore after fighting with lings.

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

In the video I actually used a jumpstarter pack for testing but that is not a longterm solution and the battery isn't meant for that. The 35ah battery I linked above is much better and meant for light trolling motors. A lot of wheelchair batteries might not be bad either if you can find some. Many wheelchair refurbish centers remove batteries and replace with new regardless if battery is bad so sometimes you can find good deals.

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

A UPG 35ah battery from here is what I have for it: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&field-keywords=trolling%20motor%20battery&linkCode=ur2&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Atrolling%20motor%20battery&tag=ytk-20&url=search-alias%3Daps&linkId=FFRXMEOIV5LLF6PZ

Walt G - 9 years ago

Great video and thanks so much for sharing! What is the shaft material? was just wondering because if it isn't stainless you might be able to use a tubing cutter and not have to mess with the pvc pipe..... Just a thought.. Keep up the great vids! W

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

+Walt G It has stainless steel external and internal parts. The shaft is stainless steel. Great suggestion otherwise. Thanks for stopping by Walt.

Bill Rost - 9 years ago

Great video, where did you purchase the motor, and about how much does it cost. Also where did you get the additional plug and how much was that. When you add an electric to the Hobie do you now need to register it ? Thanks for the information.

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

Registering depends on your location you will have to check with your local departments. Some states do require it.

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

Check out the video description below the video for links to all the supplies including the motor. I will try to keep this updated.

Mike V - 9 years ago

Also what Battery did you use and did you get a waterproof baox for it? How long does the battery last?

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

For the test I simply used a jump starter battery which is NOT recommended. I will likely use one of the trolling motor 35ah batteries like I link to in video description. Although the jump starter battery did last long enough to get me all the way around the lake.

Mike V - 9 years ago

Great video, I learned alot. May I ask What size PVC did you use to protect the wires? Also what size hole did you drill in the replacement drive cartridge? Thanks

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

Pvc used was 3/4" OD

oespo oespo19 - 9 years ago

is the 5mph standard with this motor? i know of others that have ti use a 45lb thrust to get that speed. What about if you accidentally hit a rock while its deployed?

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

This video came as a request by subscribers. Did a similar build a few years back when the mirage series kayaks just came out but eventually sold the setup with the kayak. Decided I would build another after subscriber requests but this time with a more robust motor. This one turned out great. Others have built similar setups but use smaller motors. This motor is 33% more powerful than most you will find that use the 18lb thrust motors. Also after reviewing other designs people have made I discovered a major flaw. Many used motors that don't have replaceable props! The setup we show in the video has OEM replaceable props as well as aftermarket props available. Stay tuned to the channel for other trolling motor mount ideas. We will be releasing more motor mount ideas in the near future.

John - 8 years ago

Bet you're not in your 60's yet. I have found out through the school of hard knocks that I can't do things as easily as I could when I was in my 20's. I personally would love to have this set-up. More time to fish and less time fatigued.

VF6 - 8 years ago

personally i would never buy one, i like the kayak the way it is and using a paddle is part of the experience also i can get going pretty fast with a paddle so im good. thanks though

P-Dub - 8 years ago

+valuelessfawn6 You can purchase the motor from Sea Eagle (seaeagle.com) for $129. For me shipping was an additional $23 but still the trolling motor I wanted. Got it in about a week from the date ordered. Just finished the conversion/build and look forward to trying it out on my PA12.

VF6 - 8 years ago

+KayakDIY they dont sell the motors anymore :(

KayakDIY - 9 years ago

+Jim Fisk No problem. Glad we could be of help. We like getting project requests. Had one of these built few years ago but sold it with the kayak. This one is much faster/has quicker acceleration. We like this motor a lot. Efficient, lightweight, and quick.

Jim Fisk - 9 years ago

+KayakDIY Wow, thanks for making the video and the help. This really helps. Tried watching other vids but they are just trying to sell them and don't provide details. I like the bigger motor choice. We are a Hobie kayak family but didn't want to by the torqueedo. For the price of one evolve torqueedo by Hobie I could build a trolling motor kit for all 4 of my Hobie kayaks and still have money in the bank!