Kayak vs Surfski: Epic V12 and Necky Chatham 17 comparison

If you've ever thought about swapping out your sea kayak for a surfski, this is your video. We check out the physics and characteristics of an epic V12, Epic v10 Sport, and a Necky Chatham 17.

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If you've ever thought about swapping out your sea kayak for a surfski, this is your video. We check out the physics and characteristics of an epic V12, Epic v10 Sport, and a Necky Chatham 17.

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Cyn K
Cyn K - 3 years ago
Thanks for the perfect comparison! I was just watching a show on Australian shark attacks. I have gone sea kayaking but never heard of surf skiing so this explained the difference perfectly!
brankog7
brankog7 - 3 years ago
Good video, thanks man
KH SA
KH SA - 3 years ago
like comparing a Mtb with a racer bike. Quit stupid.
Scootchels
Scootchels - 3 years ago
That’s a perfect analogy, and if you would have watched the vid I say it’s a comparison of differences, not a head to head shootout. BTW, I think you meant *quite*.
Merlin Man
Merlin Man - 3 years ago
Surf lifesaving skis are pretty stable, the V12 looks too narrow to be enjoyable.
Gogalen789
Gogalen789 - 3 years ago
I'm with you on that one ,Merlin Man. I'm primarily a lake kayaker and when the wind kicks up pretty good I encounter lateral waves on some of the paths I travel in the water that hit me from the side so having some level of stability for the watercraft is nice. I suppose if you knew there was to be little or no wind on a certain day then the 17" width would be fine.
pbr2424
pbr2424 - 4 years ago
A performance sea kayak would be a west side boat X par missle. I have two. 23 foot long 18 inches wide 32 pounds Kevlar. The west side boat will beat a lot of surf skis. Try comparing apples to apples. They make slow fat surf skis so your video doesn't make sense. Also at the Olympics they race kayaks. Try hanging with them on a surf ski. I've owned both you should be clearer if you are making a video. Google West Side Boat Shop Thunderbolt and watch a video and see what I mean.

Thanks
daisilui
daisilui - 4 years ago
pbr- i thought this video was about sea boats- i haven't seen any race kayak competitions on the ocean yet... that would be interesting to watch: k1 vs surfski in downwind conditions...
Scootchels
Scootchels - 4 years ago
Please go back and listen to the first 30 seconds where I say “this is not a head to head shootout, but a look at surfskis and a comparison of the differences to a typical kayak. For people thinking of going to a surfski from a kayak, here are the differences”. I appreciate the West Side plug, but comparing an ultra-performance kayak to a ski doesn’t make my point, does it? Please watch the vid before commenting. Thanks.
Richard S Costello
Richard S Costello - 4 years ago
An informational kayak/surfski comparison with a little highland pipes music thrown in to boot, good enough for me Scootchels. Love it!
Scootchels
Scootchels - 4 years ago
Richard S Costello - Ha! Thanks, Richard.
guitta Dabe
guitta Dabe - 4 years ago
Pretty much why I bought the Epic 18X. I'm not even thinking of "upgrading" to a Surfski from that, as I get as good an exercise on it, using the exact paddling motion as if I were on a Surfski (high angle, wing paddle). But even the 18X is very tippy in very rough water, requiring more "ballast" for stability. So I had to purchase another (cheaper, but more stable) kayak for such conditions.
Scootchels
Scootchels - 4 years ago
guitta Dabe - I love that idea of an 18x and a second beater boat. The 18x really does it all - tour volume, ski speed. Fast, but not as wicked fast as a full-blown race ski, stable, but not as stable as a classic tourer.
Mark R
Mark R - 4 years ago
thats like comparing a Porsche and a VW Beetle two completely different craft
William Tecumseh Sherman
William Tecumseh Sherman - 3 years ago
Scootchels exactly difference is you fucking Kayak nerd!
hunati31
hunati31 - 4 years ago
Interestingly enough VW Beetle was designed by Porsche.
Scootchels
Scootchels - 4 years ago
Exactly. The video is about those differences. Thanks!
Ryan Knowles
Ryan Knowles - 5 years ago
Have you looked at the V5, V6, V7? They are much wider around 23 inches and the V6 has dry storage in the front and back. The V6 might be a closer comparison to the Necky Chatham 17. I can't find many reviews on these!
Scootchels
Scootchels - 5 years ago
Hey, Ryan. You are quite right: the v6 or even v8 would have been a more interesting comparison. I can't help you with any first-hand input on any except the 10 and 12.

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Rick Downunder
Rick Downunder - 5 years ago
Thanks for a great video and useful comparison which I totally agree with.I own an Epic V8 Pro club and a Riot edge 14.5 foot sit in.I bought both because they offer very different features.I paddle the ski through the week mainly on flat water and I am looking for speed and building my technique and fitness.Sundays I take out the sit in just to relax and it is so comfortable and stable.If I could only choose one as a beginner I would go for a stable surf ski such as the Epic V 7 or possibly the V8 which I had a chance to practice in before purchasing.It is best to go for stability initially as it is very hard to develop good technique if you are constantly trying to keep your balance.
PharmGeek Outdoor Fun
PharmGeek Outdoor Fun - 5 years ago
I bought a V7 (plastic ski by epic, 17 feet)...paddled before this the traditional poly sea kayaks....stability is  a tad less for sure...a V12 would be far less stable for a newB. The V7 has 40 or so liters of dry storage and a bunge stern deck so a little bit of capacity for a sort of "rec day paddle"...the ones like stellar S18S are closer in storage to sea kayaks, but they are not only composite.

I have only paddled my V7 now a few times...I am really gonna enjoy it for fitness paddling AND at the beach.

The new "entry level skis" such as the V5 and V7...I think for many people that are stable enough to "jump right in" no problem.....some people that are far more "top heavy" and never used 'skinnier boats" in the past may struggle.

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