Sit On Top vs Sit In Kayak - What you need to know
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10. comment for Sit On Top vs Sit In Kayak - What you need to know
20. comment for Sit On Top vs Sit In Kayak - What you need to know
I've seen people do it with a sit on Kayak. When it's calm. I've also seen people get rolled out of a sit on top by pretty small waves.
I live near the ocean. There's a lot of fresh water, and a lot more salt water. I needed something I could learn to use out at sea, even when it isn't calm because it's not hard to get caught in bad conditions. Once you learn the process, you can roll a sit in and be damp but OK. I've yet to see anyone roll a sit on top Kayak and come out on top. Usually they're in the water (with the angry shark they just cut loose).
Yeah...give me a sit in. I can do just as well in a lazy river, and better out at sea.
Now I just need to learn to roll the SOB and I'll be set!
Another huge benefit of a longer touring kayak, is that they have a larger water footprint, and are designed often for various camping load capacities, and when loaded, they loose far far less buoyancy...and that greatly affects performance.
"most" sit on tops that are out there are terrible at paddling any real distance...and to be fair "most" sit in kayaks used are terrible. A longer (14+ feet) Â more narrow (24 inches or less width) will just paddle so much more effortlessly and not be so badly affected by your camping load.
The wider shorter SOT's when loaded up become a horrifying bathtub to paddle on flat water..and sometimes depending on how loaded, much more unstable.
Related, boy, these can be hard to find once you get to picking one specifically that you want....dealers across most ALL of the southeast keep either none in stock, or happen to have a couple. There are a couple exceptions, but they are high end models (eddyline is sold by a dealer in Destin, called "kayak experience" and they keep demos of those boats on hand). point is, relatively, these sit in touring kayaks are very uncommon in the southeast....even though we have absurd amounts of amazing flat water.
I could go on and on about this, but I wish more could try out a touring kayak for a trip and be able to decide for themselves....I have allowed several newb's to paddle my boat in the past year, they all got a huge smile and had good things to say, and my wife will be getting her own soon.
Take Care, I know I am preaching to the choir here...but Trip, I think you should do an update video on this subject...or we could do like a "demo day" and get a bunch of people together at like a river or lake for a day trip for people to show up who have never paddled one and let them paddle it for that day? Just a thought.
Wide and short suck to me for enjoying anything on flat water or paddling hours.
Also, dry suits are very comfortable, as long as they're breathable. More comfortable than any other kind of outer clothes, and you stay completely dry if you're camping and it's raining. You just don't care about rain. Also, no ticks.
Also, check out surf skis. They're basically open-deck kayaks. Most of them are racing hulls but there are quite a few these days that are touring type hulls, with sealed interior hatches and all. Some plastic layups. A lot easier to get out of and get back on. A closed kayak, you want to roll - getting out and getting back in is a messy, chancy business. A surf ski you can climb off, climb back on, you're back to where you started.
The surf skis look pretty awesome. I get sick when I browse the Epic website lol Man that would be Epic if I could just have a chance to paddle one of those as a demo. One day....
30. comment for Sit On Top vs Sit In Kayak - What you need to know
I,am thinking of getting a sit in but can you tell me how much weight it adds to the yak with all your camp gear in it. For a women these things can get pretty heavy. Glad I stumbled on to your videos very informative and funny at the same time.
When it comes to camping gear weight, that is dependent on the person really. I have a backpackers mindset (or try to) and like to pack light if possible. It is possible to get down to 10lbs-15lbs of gear for a trip and still be safe and comfortable. Then depending on the food you take you can save some weight there as well. Dehydrated meals are very lightweight, you just need to have access to clean water for them like a spring or some sort of filtration system.
I have never actually weighed my gear so I don't really know how much I'm bringing. I do pack a lot of thing's I don't exactly have to have like; goggles, fins, cast net, hatchet, grill, etc.
Remember though if you have to pull the yak to and from the water whether it be for launching or getting to a campsite you can always bring a large bag or two and unload the heaviest items. I often do this to make the yak easier to drag.
Hope you find yourself a nice yak soon! Let me know what you end up decided and what yak you go with!
Sure, there are mid sized yaks, 12'ers and 10's but you will have similar issues hauling it.
I'm not sure I can transport such a long kayak. I have a Dodge Dakota with a 8ft bed. . Are there mid size kayak. Long but not as long as a sea kayak?
Material differences are plastic (what I use), fiberglass and carbon fiber. The plastic are the most affordable and most durable. You go up in price with the other materials and save a little bit on wieght, but not enough in my opinion and you sacrifice durability. A nice 16' plastic touring kayak will take you a long way. You would be very experienced before you needed/wanted a faberglass or carbon yak.
I'm inland here in Arkansas . But we have plenty lakes and rivers. I've never tried kayaking. I've gone canoeing as a kid but I'm sure that's a different animal. What are the differences of cheap ,mid price to expensive? Material & weight?
Glad you found me and thanks for watching, that's the reason I do it, to inspire.
Don't fret over the long comment, I leave them as well lol. Sounds like a good yak, any yak is a good yak as long as you're getting out there really.....
Have fun with your new hobby!
Hope you have a blast on your trip! Hate to hear that about your sd card. I've had some really great shots not record for some reason or another multiple times. No fun for sure.
50. comment for Sit On Top vs Sit In Kayak - What you need to know
Mostly my sit on top experience has made me kinda hate their slowness for our camping trips so far....
I've found that typically if I start in a smaller river that is winding with tight turns that it doesn't last long and the majority of my trip is on straighter wider parts of rivers. So really the longer faster yak is the best option the majority of the time.
Then if you ever take it to the beach or lakes your are good to go with a long, nicely tracking yak. Plus you get more storage in a longer yak..... I can't see why a longer one is a poor option for what I do......
Hope you get out there sooner than later. Thanks for the comment!
About the camera, someone else brought that to my attention today so I checked it out and no, there apparently isn't much difference other than the 860 has GPS tagging capabilites and built in Wifi. Sounds like a no brainer to me... I'm about to change the Amazon store from the 850 to the 860.Â
That's crazy lol. I keep looking online for new waterproof cameras for a upgrade from the tg850/860 but as of right now it seems like the best one out there. Glad you've seen the Amazon store!
That guy you're talking about. you could find out where he found some of his artifacts and end up kayaking some of the same places those native Americans trade routes, stopping at some of the same places they might have stopped to camp. That guy can prob tell you a lot of info that would make for some interesting videos for sure..even show some of the tools, pots...and so on that they used on the river. That's kinda what I'm going to do here.
Looking forward to seeing your net trip.
Hey, I see you have the Olympia 850 on your Amazon page. Have you found any difference in the newer Olympia 860. I've not really found much difference, and the price is lower.
Man, that sounds like a interesting channel! I've wanted to get a little bit into the history around these parts as well. There is a local guy who goes out and finds all kinds of fossils and Indian artifacts on the river I've been wanting to hook up with.
Good luck with the channel and if you have any questions feel free to ask.
Thanks a lot Trip!
Henry Schneider
Thanks a lot!
Henry Schneider
That's great you have some trips planned, I'm really happy to hear that Henry. Good deal, a sit in kayak BOOYAH!
All the best Henry, I know you'll have a blast.
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Another option is to build your own kayak =)