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Robert Pigeon - 6 years ago

Informative video except the background sound or at the least, it’s volume is too loud / distracting.

Fred Fable - 6 years ago

Overpriced...too expensive.

Chris Pearce - 6 years ago

It’s actually real disappointing because I got into this for a little cheaper way of fishing, u buy all that crap you’ll have a $5000.oo kayak

Chris Pearce - 6 years ago

Yea I just bought one of these yesterday, and am shocked and appalled at the absolutely rediculous prices of the trolling motor option and pedal option, not worth even half of what they are asking, gonna have to make my own trolling motor setup

Цирюльня хромого Йосыпа - 6 years ago

Greetings from Ukraine
Very interesting thing. It's very bad that I do not have such boats in my country.
With the best wishes

CRV HAWK - 6 years ago

https://www.facebook.com/groups/302514313577131/

Dave S - 7 years ago

Not interested.

BigDawg Fishing - 7 years ago

Is there reverse?

Asura - 7 years ago

1. you just destroyed your fish grips by clamping it down on something too thick
2. $1500 for the radar 135 i can understand that but, an additional $1100 for a pedal drive... yall greedy ass need an ass beating

DKN MInister - 7 years ago

This piece of shit drive should cost more than 500dol max!

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Ro bert - 7 years ago

Can't help but feel the boat looks tippy. The guy operating the boat seems to have to stabilize himself a bit, like when he stands up, his platform seems side-to-side-ish tippy. Also, the peddle design seems to force this guy to hyper-extend his knees while operating it. Is this because the guy's too short, or because they tried to create more front deck area. Anyway, I'm not sure this design would steer me away from other options out there.

marvelous fishing - 7 years ago

just exactly like this paddle is with the motor what's the price or what am I looking to spend

Ryan Rosser - 7 years ago

The ride 115 was one of the most versatile kayaks on the water with a huge front hatch for storage of extra poles and camping gear, a nice rear storage area and enough room to lay down. It handled well on the rivers and tracked like a dream for it's size. It was light weight with side handles that made moving it by yourself easy. So why not save money and upgrade the mold for the pedal drive!? I purchased the Radar 115 because I was informed the Ride 115 was no longer going to be available as a fishing kayak. The front storage hatch is useless. It's too small to do anything with. The mid hatch is also too small to be useful for storage and it leaks so any extra gear will have to be stored in a dry bag. Both front and rear carry handles can hardly support the weight of the kayak and came apart the first time I used them. The lack of side carry handles make it near impossible to carry by yourself. It does not seem to paddle as easy as the Ride but maybe that's because of it's weight. It's molded to tight where the seat goes making it a pain to get the seat into place. The only thing I liked about this kayak are the ram mounts and the seat. I'm selling this thing and trying to find another Ride 115 max angler. Sorry for the bad review. This video was nice though.

Salvador Miralla - 7 years ago

which one is better Pescador 12 or this one?

Salvador Miralla - 7 years ago

OTOH hobie Outback is 3400€ here, wich is 1000€ more expensive, so i´ll go straight for Radar 135

NoneForYou - 7 years ago

Wow, that's pretty bad. Greed is alive and well!

Salvador Miralla - 7 years ago

NoneForYou in Spain retailers are asking 2750€ por Pilot 12 and 2350€ for Radar 135 though... of course no one will purchase Pilot 12 because of the greedy policy of the distributors

NoneForYou - 7 years ago

Pescador Pilot 12?

Wilderness Systems Radar 115 - $1349 + $1100 =$2449 (pedal installed, motor capable, 94 lbs)
Wilderness Systems Radar 135 - $1499 + $1100 = $2599 (pedal installed, motor capable, 101 lbs)
Pescador Pilot 12 v2 - $1799 (pedal only, 85 lbs)

They worked out the kinks from the first Pilot. It's tough to rationalize spending $650 - $800 more for a kayak that has similar features. I've used both of them. If money were not an object, Radar 135. On more of a budget, Pilot all day.

Rick Rabies - 7 years ago

super awesome. prolly $$$$$$$$$ though

Will Smith - 7 years ago

What is the cost 600000000 haha no really how much is it

Charlie Palmer - 7 years ago

Does the Drive have Reverse?

NoneForYou - 7 years ago

Both motor and pedal have reverse.

Chris Ellis - 7 years ago

I have a radar 135; it's very stable and and turns very well.

Now I'm only 5'9" 160lbs and the kayak is heavy; over 100 lbs with a rudder installed. Its an absolute mega PIA to load and unload on my kayak rack on my truck by myself. The plastic where you can install flush rod holders is thin and flexes very easy by hand. The plastic also flexes easily when you stand up under your feet. Speed hmm I guess thats up to the person but getting 3 mph requires me to paddle with a hard effort.

Needless to say I'm not happy with it really besides stability. Also the pedal drive uses I tiny prop and 6:1 gear ratio. I haven't tired it yet but I can see some vigorous pedalling to get speed.

I not sure my experience will get any better over time as I'm almost ready to cut my loses and sell. Just the weight alone has me dreading taking it out by myself. I load 100lbs bucket of pool shock into my truck no problem but a 100lb kayak is more than I want to deal with.

Salvador Miralla - 7 years ago

So would i wait for a Hobie outback or this? I own a Trident 11 which is quite lightI have to load it to my car ceiling by myselt and i´ll probably struggle with tha heavy load? What´s the difference on weight between 115 and 135?

Brandon Tolentino - 7 years ago

Chris Ellis so when you stand up the floor flexes under your feet??

pghdave420 - 7 years ago

why is it that all these pedal kayaks charge 1000$-1500$+ for the pedal system ?man im glad they dont make bikes.

BigPeteOutdoors_ 79 - 7 years ago

yeah went to the Houston Boat Show and loved the Radar 135 it will be my first kayak I will purchase coming this March or April

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MikehasHobbies - 7 years ago

so the radar 115 cost around $1350.00 without the pedal drive? and the pedal drive cost around $1100.00?

so to get the pedal package, the kayak cost at $2450.00?

Dick Out For Harambe - 6 years ago

NoneForYou i'll stick with Hobie Mirage outback. Very similar price, but the hobie has the 180 drive.

DKN MInister - 7 years ago

In my opinion is overpriced.

NoneForYou - 7 years ago

Good point, troll. Anyone that uses "epic" in their everyday language is a moron. "Brah, so epic, brah!" "Check out my epic PDL, Brah!" "I'm dumb and like to spend more money on stuff because it's epic, Brah!" Hobie boats are tubs and Old Town is overpriced and heavy with no advantage of using a motor drive. That's epic, BRAH!

NoneForYou - 7 years ago

Let's at least compare apples to apples. 13 foot boats vs 13 foot boats and 12 vs 12.

Old Town PDL - $2800 (pedal only, 117 lbs)
Hobie Mirage Pro Angler 14 - $3599 (pedal only, 120 lbs)
Wilderness Systems Radar 135 - $1499 + $1100 = $2599 (pedal installed, motor capable, 101 lbs)

Hobie Mirage Pro Angler 12 - $3299 (pedal only, 105 lbs)
Wilderness Systems Radar 115 - $1349 + $1100 =$2449 (pedal installed, motor capable, 94 lbs)
Pescador Pilot 12 v2 - $1799 (pedal only, 85 lbs)

The Radar is far better than you're willing to admit. Either you're getting paid to troll or just haven't done your research. Either way, facts are facts.

Dylan Zrim - 7 years ago

MikehasHobbies for that price you'd be better off with a hobie 180 drive

mark southerton - 7 years ago

Why do you include Disco music in the video ????? If i wanted to listen to a disco i would watch top of the pops ??????

mark southerton - 7 years ago

Why is the large dry storage not on the bow of this boat like the Thresher, Is it because of space for the motor ??

Aztec Arts - 7 years ago

Water-tight storage ?? (for photo lenses : $$$)

Dylan Zrim - 7 years ago

Aztec Arts as with all boats of any nature, buy a waterproof box designed for taking on boats.

Alexander Ferrer - 7 years ago

pl can any body donate me a fishing kayak pl love to fish salt water

Ro bert - 7 years ago

never hurts to beg other people for what they earned. good yob!

Surfing Lion - 7 years ago

Seat level too high, no stable for ocean, lake and river only.

NoneForYou - 7 years ago

Seems in this instance the paddler should stay on lakes and rivers. Take mine out in open water regularly, super stable.

Dylan Zrim - 7 years ago

Jialiang zhang you obviously haven't seen fishing kayaks out at sea

Herbert Brown - 7 years ago

can it handle well in saltwater bays and are the out riggers for this for better balance and other things this rig can be riged up with

Herbert Brown - 7 years ago

excellent rig

Tommy Andersen - 8 years ago

kind of look like a copy of the native slayer 10 propel. nothing bad about this one, maybe there will be possible to buy one in Norway as well,so far hobiecat is the only one available,but if i had a choice here, slayer or titan 13.5 from native would be my weapon of choice,

Tommy Andersen - 7 years ago

to me,it is only two choices,in Norway we can only get to models, hobie and native. no problem with your choices,pal :-) i still want a native :-)

Dylan Zrim - 7 years ago

Tommy Andersen never said any were a bad product, just hobie is better value for the money, mirage drive might be slower on average, but as a whole you get more with hobie.

Tommy Andersen - 7 years ago

neither hobie,native or this one,can be called a bad product,it is what you want your self. I want a native.

Dylan Zrim - 7 years ago

Tommy Andersen with the new mirage reverse drive, hobie is the better option

ADRIAN GUSTAVO RINALDI - 8 years ago

Very good live in Spain and I am interested in this kayak goes on sale in January 2017 in Europe anybody knows when llegua

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Brian Richard - 8 years ago

If a fish finder is added to the flex pod, it looks like the pedal drive will contact it when flipped up.

Scuffed ThumbZ Fishing - 7 years ago

Brian Richard you wouldn't have your fishfinder on top of the flex pod if you have the pedal drive you wouldn't be able to see it anyway. You put the transducer the battery and extra cable in the flex pod and run the actual head unit onto the gear tracks on the side.

R H - 8 years ago

The other pedal kayaks have a 10 to 1 gear ratio but this one is only 6/1. How does that affect the speed? Are the props a different size or pitch?

Phoenix - 7 years ago

R H honestly, i think ots more of a slow, bank working type thing rather than paddling casting you you just cast and.move at the same time.

Chris Ellis - 7 years ago

R H I have noticed the same thing. The prop for the helix drive is tiny and has very little surface area. Add that to the 6:1 ratio I see a good effort needed to get up to speed.

Tim Norman - 8 years ago

can you use the pedal system with the helix motor fitted

Ray Choi - 8 years ago

That pedal drive will be a nightmare around weedy lake and river!!!! Pls buy a hobie

Dylan Zrim - 7 years ago

Ray Choi I've looked at other pedal drives, but the hobie just seems to have more in every way

Ray Choi - 7 years ago

Agreed!!!! A hobie with 180 mirage is the best fishing kayak around lake and river.

Dylan Zrim - 7 years ago

Ray Choi for a very similar price, you'd be silly not to

Martin Svenningsson - 8 years ago

WOW !!! Love it all
can i buy it in sweden???

Natural Ponds Lakes & Streams by Spring Creek Aquatic Concepts - 8 years ago

How do these fish in 2-3 foot swells in our big western lakes? I've float tubed in waves, but not sure about these.

Nick Dalton - 8 years ago

Great design but I wish they would have taken full advantage of the front and back of the boat by designing the forward and aft dry storage much like the Coosa HD by Jackson kayak. I think the area directly behind the seat is a waste of useable space even though you can store the seat there. If they would have brought the space for the crate or blackpack directly behind the seat then they would've had plenty of room for a dry storage compartment at the rear of the boat. You really need those internal dry storage areas for longer overnight trips in order to carry the gear that you will need, and to keep the cockpit area clutter free. It's those kinds of details that could've made this the best fishing kayak on the market. I do like that they incorporated the raised rectangular dry storage area directly in front of the seat. You could use it for dry storage, tackle storage, or put 1 of those cooler inserts in and use it as a cooler. That way u would have direct access to ur drinks & food

mark southerton - 7 years ago

I Agree.

BlackAnvil47 - 8 years ago

Wondering how much it's going to cost$$$

Steve Johnson - 8 years ago

How much weight will it carry before it becomes unstable???

RTF Anytime - 8 years ago

Nice Yak.

Isaac G 32 - 8 years ago

capacity??

NextVisionsus - 8 years ago

Nice, you guys thought of everything you could need. I love my hobie but dam this is awesome.

Chad Denman - 8 years ago

everyone posting this boat! yet no one will say anything about the price! very disheartening!

Shane Williams - 8 years ago

The 13:5 with the pedals will come in around $2600. Boat alone around $1500.

Larry Moffatt - 8 years ago

Coingrats on the engineering that went into the Radar. Amazing boat, just not for me. (10 must be my lucky number: I got my 10ft WS Tarpon 100 in 2010 and wouldn't trade it for anything. As much as I am impressed with the Radar's added features, I am not a fan of the added weight. Same is true for most kayaks these days.)

matthew williams - 8 years ago

Take my money!!!

Skid Mark - 6 years ago

Wow, all 3 options for the low low price of about $5,000. That's reasonable for a kayak?

Dylan Zrim - 7 years ago

Wing Butler if you mount it to a rail or somethibg

Wing Butler - 8 years ago

Dwayne Sudduth can you peddle and motor with a fish finder? Take them all out on the water at the same time?

Dwayne Sudduth - 8 years ago

+Jared Wallace Looks like $1349 for the 115 and $1499 for the 135. The Helix PD should retail for around $1100. Plus, the Helix MD (fits in the FlexPod location) is $1999; so you get all three options--Paddle, Peddle, Power.

Jared Wallace - 8 years ago

+Dwayne “ChasinBass” Sudduth what's the price for the 115&135 with the peddle drive

Dwayne Sudduth - 8 years ago

I want to paddle it first but yeah, I'm thinking Take My Money please..:)

Grunter - 8 years ago

Er , what use is the flex pod if I want this as dedicated peddle fish yak. Can't access sounder there with peddles in hull.? Or am I wrong ?

Dylan Zrim - 7 years ago

techD a poor design in a way, they would have been better off developing a tiller motor setup...

Dwayne Sudduth - 8 years ago

You probably would want to mount the Fishfinder on the rails, with the battery in the Flex Pod, and run your cables out through the top of the Flex Pod.