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don jn - 6 years ago

Thats neat to u could make a swing keel for shoal water

Steve w - 6 years ago

9 years later you still kayak-sailing?

Steve Branam - 7 years ago

Nice!!!

Tom Smith - 7 years ago

Would filling the mast with foam help with the flexing?

Francisco Rodriguez - 7 years ago

genial

Evan Base - 7 years ago

why not just get a £400 laser 1

Fort Yort - 7 years ago

This is incredible! I wish I had the skills & tools to try this out...someday.

Also very cool to see that wrecked boat out on the water.

Errik Bater - 7 years ago

Please tell us more about the features that I need to know in order to find a suitable polyethylene.

Commenter Five - 7 years ago

Having experience with JB Weld and West System epoxies, West System epoxy is superior in adhesion, strengths and far ahead in honesty and customer service.

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Jason Kloos - 7 years ago

Brilliant.

drewhon - 7 years ago

What a GREAT video. Thanks for sharing.

Daniel Dudoit - 7 years ago

9 years later I just want to say that you are a DIY LEGEND sir.

Dale Schultz - 7 years ago

great job

Ricardo Rios - 7 years ago

muy buena idea, felicitaciones desde España

kitt2000car - 7 years ago

I'am doing something similar with my 8ft clinker style sailing dinghy. Adding a second sail which will act as a genoa. Zap strapped a second mast to the original one, As the new sail is taller then the main. Bow sprit and new mast made out of pcp pipe.

Radnally - 8 years ago

Very elegant design. Would outriggers help at all?

unclejack123 - 8 years ago

Very creative and well engineered project ...... JRW

steve K - 8 years ago

excellent job

John S - 8 years ago

Excellent description and portrayal of how to make this thing work. Nice job!

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Eric Buettgenbach - 8 years ago

I didn't look to see how long ago you posted but a easy fix ( instead of carbon fiber mask or aluminum mask) could be to find some metal electrical conduit that fits inside your mask. That might help the flex and be cheaper than other fixes

Wayne r - 8 years ago

your big toe will haunt my dreams

solarson53 - 8 years ago

real nice set up
we don't need no stinkin' Store Bought
thanks

billybones58 - 8 years ago

Brother, I like your style. Making something out of nothing. Bravo!

MiamiFlatsMan - 8 years ago

can this be done without the center board? I don't wanna drill a hole in the bottom of my kayak.

Steve Harrison - 8 years ago

You could try using leeboards instead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeboard

RLZerr - 8 years ago

+Alain Diaz yes but you cannot sail into the wind or even sideways very well. Even sailing at 90 degrees to the wind you will be pushed downwind some. I've seen others attach the centerboard to a cross board bungeed across the top of the kayak. It doesn't have to be exactly in the center of the kayak just has to oppose the force from the wind from the side. A much simpler design too.

fasignal - 9 years ago

That's a good video , I never knew about the plastic welding iron.

Doctor CAD - 9 years ago

Thanks for posting your video. It was one of the few I kept returning to on youtube for inspiration and ideas for my own rig which I finished about a month ago(video posted today). I really like what you did here and it helped me to build mine. This is a great way for people to have their own personal sailboat that can go on the car top and be launched with just one person. Great idea! Thanks again

michael cummins - 9 years ago

I can see the necessity for the rutter but could you explain the reason behind using the middle aluminum plate. In the video you said it allows the boat to have power to go forward even with a side-wind, can you explain how in more depth.
I'm really interested in learning how to sail and am thinking of trying this but on a canoe. Any thoughts?

Julian Ramirez - 9 years ago

+michael cummins The centerboard (middle aluminum plate) prevents the kayak from moving sideways when the force from the sails is pushing perpendicular to the kayak.

akris250c - 9 years ago

Brilliant man

rokin91 - 9 years ago

looks like its bookin ...good job

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ks ben - 9 years ago

how to ensure the sail has the desired airfoil shape? I read some articles on sail making and they mentioned about broadseam and rounding of the luff/foot edges. I know nothing about these techniques. And seems like your sail is really a simple one that doesn't need to bother with the broadseams. Care to explain more on the sail?

ks ben - 9 years ago

+RLZerr ..and if my theory is correct that also means more than half of the sail area right behind the mast isn't generating enough lift since there is no proper curvature (camber)

ks ben - 9 years ago

+RLZerr after some research on Lateen sail (which sailboatstogo.com used for inflatable kayaks) and it seems to me that your sail works like a partial Lateen sail. Wikipedia:"Lateen sail" suggests that the conic section formed in a Lateen sail produces the airfoil shape. I suspected that you created (accidentally) your airfoil shape by the bending of the bottom boom. @8:56 we can see that there is a curvature towards the trailing edge of the sail. I guess if you tighten up the halyard supporting the top boom to reduce the sail curvature, the sail power decreases a lot.

RLZerr - 9 years ago

+ks ben I too am unfamiliar with meticulous technical details of sail design. My first sail was just a mast and boom and a triangle sail which did not provide enough power for my liking so added the top boom and fitted a sail with more square footage to catch more wind. And put a bend in the lower boom for head clearance. Everything was an experiment with no special sailing skills or advice from others so perhaps I got lucky that it works so well :) I did have a goal with this project to make it as easy to put together and take apart as possible using simple fittings and free or inexpensive parts.

Michael Webb - 9 years ago

I just bought a new kayak and was thinking about re-purposing my old one into a sail boat like this. Cool video and good ideas on display here for a DYI conversion. I was thinking about pedal rudder controls on mine. Thanks for the tips and tricks. Nice work!

Rodrigo engrr - 9 years ago

First off all, congratulation for your ideas and thank you for post. I am very interested in how could I do that welding device. You did or you bougth it? What is that material used to weld? Unfortunatelly here in Brazil our kayaks has no much good options to sailing or fishing and we if we would like, we must costumise it.For sure your video will help us a lot.

Mike Shea - 7 years ago

Milk jugs and laundry detergent bottles are the same material. I have used strips of milk jugs, to weld with a blow torch and hot spoon, a 1,500 gallon plastic water tank. I repaired a factory seam that had gave way.

Commenter Five - 7 years ago

I haven't tried it yet, but believe a hot bed of wood coals in a hole in the ground would heat a steel rod of around 3/8" diameter to hot enough to do plastic welding. Keep yourself upwind. Cut plastic welding filler rods from same type plastic. Better a bit too hot of welding than too cool. Practice, practice. Enjoy.

RLZerr - 9 years ago

Most kayaks are made of high density polyethylene plastic. In the last couple years discovered the best adhesive to be Scotch Weld 2216. A room temperature cure semi flexible epoxy and works good on polyethylene as long as surfaces are roughened and are not subject to too much force. It is expensive epoxy, 1 small kit will cost as much as a plastic welder. JB Weld is the second best epoxy. It is cheaper but find it inferior to Scotch Weld because it cures very hard and brittle and easily peels from flexing forces. Plastic welding is superior to all adhesives. If done correctly is just as strong as the two materials joined. I would not rely on epoxy on polyethylene for high force joints such as mast or centerboard mounts. None of the adhesives you mentioned are reliable here especially PVC "glue" which only works for joining PVC to PVC.

ks ben - 9 years ago

Have you considered using liquid nail/Pipe Joint Compound/PVC glue rather than the plastic welder?

RLZerr - 9 years ago

The welding iron was bought online over 10 yrs ago for plastic welding. The welding rod is polyethylene. I bought a large roll on eBay at the same time. Still using it. Probably have a 500 year supply at my rate :)

Shane Thee - 9 years ago

Does the boom swing above your head? I couldn't quite tell.

RLZerr - 9 years ago

yes, there is a slight bend in the boom to clear my head. I'm 6' 2".

Greg Westhoff - 9 years ago

you did a great creating that sail rigging.

DPJ59 - 9 years ago

Well done, and good job making video too. I am thinking of adapting an old Dagger Delta SOT kayak to have sailing capabilities, and may try to incorporate some of your ideas to fit with my own situation. I already own a Hobie Kayak sail (no longer have the Hobie kayak) that I would like to use for this.It has an aluminum mast that may solve the problems you've had with the flex in the pvc mast. (I understand part of your purposes was to do this with simple cheap materials). I need to find a way similar to yours to create a sleeve to insert the bottom of mast.
I also own a rudder kit that I bought years ago (at great expense) and never used, that would replace the foot braces in the Dagger, for the steerage control. Not sure if I can use that or not, or if rudder size is adequate for sailing. If not, a version of your design may come in to play.
A couple of things I wonder about with your design - I assume that you have to enter the kayak at a bit of depth in order to have the centerboard and rudder in place. Do you find this to be easy? Will one of the store bought outrigger accessories (with inflatable pontoons) sold for Hobies work as well as your centerboard? Or is a centerboard necessary to be able to tack up wind? (I have a lot to learn about the physics involved in successful sailing). Anyway, as I said, great video - I enjoyed watching. And thanks for taking the time to produce and share it with others!

RLZerr - 9 years ago

When I launch will set up in about 16 inches of water, put on the centerboard and rudder first, tip the kayak about 30 degrees to get at the bottom easy. Then grab the sail already assembled on shore and install it last. No problem getting in , sit down back first into the seat. You do need a centerboard of some kind to sail 90 degrees or up to 45 degrees into the wind. Tacking back and forth at 45 degrees or so you can zigzag upwind. Without a centerboard you will always end up downwind any direction you can sail.

Joe Walshe - 9 years ago

Brilliant. Love the way you used what you can find but still went to the trouble of doing it right.

RLZerr - 9 years ago

thanks. re-purposing is fun!

Stephen F - 10 years ago

Awesome Video !!! sail away with me. . . . .come. . .sail away come. . .sail away. . . .yeah baby yeah !!! How long did u get to sail b4 it broke?

Raul Ressano Garcia - 10 years ago

can you handle a strong wind?

RLZerr - 10 years ago

anything more than about 12mph is rough. Ideal wind speed 5-10mph

RLZerr - 10 years ago

9 years and still sailing the same rig. Sail is a bit tattered now. I did change the rudder control mechanism. Shown in another video.

Audfile - 7 years ago

Eff Yoo Bahamas, sounds nice. I live North to where if I jumped off my boat shirtless for a nice swim it would be instantly regretted and I'd be unconscious within 20 minutes.

Eff Yoo - 7 years ago

Audfile don't let some guy tell you you can't do it! YOU can do anything. What ocean are you crossing? I'll bet this would take me the 50 miles to the Bahamas from Wpb where I live. Would that not be "crossing ocean"?

Mark Quinton - 7 years ago

Absolutely not, you won't be able to store enough food or water for such a long voyage on a 10 ft kayak. All these rec yaks were not really designed to deal with waves at all.

Audfile - 8 years ago

can you cross the ocean like this?

Shhaz4@gmail.com - 10 years ago

Well done...

Walter - 10 years ago

Brilliant video, thank you,, from Lismore NSW Australia.

ymanganelli - 10 years ago

Great job!!!

Bonifacio Martinez - 10 years ago

Grate!!! Congrats!!!

zoffinger - 10 years ago

Not often do I see someone rigging out a cheap kayak as well as I do ;)

lyn perk - 10 years ago

Hobie sail furler

coffeefish - 10 years ago

The flex in the mast is probably keeping you from capsizing. When the wind is strong and the mast flexes, that will de-power the sail. You add a stiffer mast and the boat will on it's side faster than you can say "oh shit."

1biskitrocksdrums - 10 years ago

Brother your a genius! !! Well done

Bastien Espallardo - 10 years ago

i think i will do the same on my inflatable dinghy. just to have a wood platform for fixation, pvc and some patience

John Doe - 10 years ago

This is great. I may give this a try with my kayak. Thank you for sharing!

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Jim Troyer - 10 years ago

Try schedule 80 PVC for the mast, it's considerably stronger than schedule 40 from the hardware store.

gearhed3113 - 10 years ago

great videos! one small correction though, HDPE is high density polypropylene, not polyethylene. polypropylene is a much more workable material, although very similar to polyethylene

RLZerr - 10 years ago

this is not a correct comment. Polypropylene is symbol "PP" Here is a reference page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resin_identification_code

Scott Shirey - 10 years ago

Your camera work captured the details of your project really well. I like your innovation.

Steve w - 6 years ago

I wanted to say something 4 years ago but couldnt think of anything

Windlass123 - 10 years ago

Very nice,,,!!!

danny kim - 11 years ago

Very nice work and video

Brian Gunn - 11 years ago

nice, how long would it take to cross the atlantic ?

Sat Bum - 11 years ago

Very nice work.. I love your ingenuity. Thanks for sharing!

steven lang - 11 years ago

Just awesome - love your invention ship and craftsmanship - applaud your efforts! I like your simple overview on how you used your plastic welder and methods. I wish other would take the time also. Great inspiration – when you don’t want to invest a lot of dollars in a craft that you are not going to use all the time but want to do the same – thanks

hdrjunkie - 11 years ago

that sir, is really, really, cool! thanks!!

lane neilson - 11 years ago

What is the sail made out of?

udmbfck - 11 years ago

Hello Sir: Just bought myself a Lifetime Payette Kayak that was on sale and with an additional coupon it came to $160 matching used ones on craiglist. I've been seeing your video over and over and came across the section on the mast material (The HD PVC is categorized as schedule 40 for 450 PSI). I've found that there is Schedule 80 at 630 PSI for 1" (a 40% improvement) as well as harder to find Schedule 120 at 720 PSI. Anything higher than that would require metal. What do you think? THANKS!

oldetavern - 11 years ago

Great video! Very well explained :)

RLZerr - 11 years ago

good luck with it and hope it works out. I look at it, if you get tired of paddling the same open waters endlessly month after month, year after year, adding a sail to harness all that free wind energy can bring the enjoyment back.

RLZerr - 11 years ago

some kayaks do come with sail fittings, the more expensive upper end models. This kayak was a simple $325 model from a local sporting goods store.

RLZerr - 11 years ago

it's not a canoe, and will capsize if you do not know what you are doing

RLZerr - 11 years ago

in nice smooth winds that aren't kicking up whitecaps tacking is effective

RLZerr - 11 years ago

close reach is probably the tightest it will sail effectively into the wind. depends on the winds of course. In the video demo when "in the reach position" is shown, the correct sailing lingo should probably have been "broad reach" I'm not salty enough for all that jargon. arrr.

Ferrociter - 11 years ago

How does it handle with tacking? Can you run more close hauled or do you have to take more of a beam reach?

FantasticMrFish - 11 years ago

I love it! gets my brain gears turning for project ideas for my kayak! is it easy for you to tack upwind in this?

keith rice - 11 years ago

will it not turn over easy being a canoe ?

pen mightygun - 11 years ago

why don't the kayak companies just mold that sail stuff in in the first place costing them nothing extra.

americasailingclub - 11 years ago

OK I am sold, I have a great trade, bring your knowledge and time and come down to the florida keys. I will get materials and we will make in about two days then enjoy a few days of sailing aboard genigreen and then we will take our new toy out and have some ocean going video. And maybe even talk about a do-it-yourself kit...jay

brachino - 11 years ago

Thanks for sharing , Well done !

RLZerr - 11 years ago

John, you are right about depowering in gusts. I try to avoid sailing during unstable winds.

RLZerr - 11 years ago

David, I am on the other side of town. I like to go kayaking / sailing in the sound

David Jay - 11 years ago

I live in Fort walton beach too! I really want to make one, do you live near the yacht club? Maybe I could pick up some ideas from you

Steven Watters - 11 years ago

HEY Ft walton ! very nice I'm in Crestview now but enjoy those beaches every year with the kids.. pensacola beach moved me inland after hurricane Ivan '04, happy sailing see ya out there man.

esersch - 11 years ago

you should find out a way to control the degree of the mast so when the wind is heavy a simple turn of the mast and you wont blow over

Hermann Otto - 11 years ago

You mean land miles not nautical??

Ben Brown - 11 years ago

Awesome period

John Edwards - 11 years ago

Flex in the mast is a good thing as it would depower the sail in gusts making it easier to stay upright.personally I think the area needing most improvement would be sail shape and cut. Good looking project though I like the centerboard setup thats pretty cool.

RLZerr - 11 years ago

I wouldn't use PVC if I did this again. Most windsurfers have a fiber / resin tapered mast that is very strong, rigid and light. Craigslist would be a great place to find more old windsurfers that might have a good mast. I bought an old windsurfer with mast and sail last spring but haven't done anything with it yet. If you do use PVC get the schedule 40 like I used here and fit the snuggest hickory shaft down the middle as you can find. I used a rake handle. But really, it's not rigid enough.

RLZerr - 11 years ago

polyethylene. It's easy to weld. PVC is hard to weld as it's composition breaks down at temperatures just above it's melt point so is very tricky. You can weld ABS, Polypropylene and others with correct rod. PEX doesn't melt well and bond so don't use that tubing. Most kayaks are Polyethylene. Some are fiberglass. I've heard of Ram-X but have not played with it.

genitalful - 11 years ago

Good work mate your a thinker. i have been wondering how to make a pvc mast for a brand new windsurfing sail i picked up for $5 10 years ago.

Mealea Ying - 11 years ago

Wonderful.

springing - 12 years ago

Very cool!

Andres Suarez - 12 years ago

The work on the hull is amazing, and look that works well, congratulations!! but I think you can get more performance I you make a good shape sail. Sails are like airplane wings, they are not flat, they have a curvature, that make it work better, and have good upwind performance. Contact me, If you want more information on this. edtere@yahoo.com

Toaster Chicken - 12 years ago

The rear rudder would probably be better if you put a wheel on the top and wrapped the rope around it. Then you would get nearly 180deg rotation in it, limited by the input method used and depending on size you can adjust the torque involved too. You mentioned a lot of things you would have done differently, perhaps this can be added when you do 2.0

RLZerr - 12 years ago

the simple rudder and centerboard design is a big problem in shallow water. they are not retractable in this.

RLZerr - 12 years ago

I'm not familiar with ram-x. Plastic welding works great with polyethylene, polypropylene and some other plastics. PVC is tricky as the heating temperature range is small. If over heated it breaks down and turns black.

29erUSA1048 - 12 years ago

if u do a carbon rig use a windsurfer rig cuz those things are extremly flexible, if you used a straight up carbon rig you'd break all your mounts

a7i20ci7y - 12 years ago

You could put lee-board slots on either side of the cockpit rather than penetrating the hull.

snackmanP - 12 years ago

very nice !

Joe Neill - 12 years ago

Well done and very creative. How have you changed it since your initial design? Or how would you make it more robust other than stiffen the mast and boom? How does it point into the wind compared to Snark or Sunfish? Thanks for sharing.

dddave999 - 12 years ago

Nice ideas to solve problems. Well done. Thanks for posting.

volentimeh - 12 years ago

plastic welding only works on thermo plastics, generally most softer recycle-able plastics, stiffer plastics that are formed by a chemical reaction (like epoxy resin) will burn if you try to plastic weld them, it's easy to check suitability in an inconspicuous area with a soldering iron, thermo plastic will melt around the tip, non thermo plastic will char and crumble.

Slim - 12 years ago

Out of all the videos I have seen so far, this really looks professional. I have seen some not add a Keel and thought; "I not think this tack well"? So, your addition of a keel is real nice. Heck, I was thinking cut a big slot or use a side board! Whooo! Glad I seen this! Also, how you made everything a "Part" of the kayak seems to me to be top notch. If there was a way to put a lasting paint job on you could make this almost look Factory made! Many Thanks!

Samu Babukokku - 12 years ago

My mom was born in Fort Walten Beach, Florida.

A. Muñoz - 12 years ago

What material is your kayak made from? Mine is ram-x and I've heard some pretty bad things about it including the fact that it cannot be repaired. Does plastic welding work, regardless of the material as long as you use the correct rods?

crazycarlsworld - 12 years ago

cool dude i just bought a watkins 25 and keeo her at broosk landing and i am just learning to sail. your project is something i could use as a ship to shore device at a reasonable cost hope to see you out there soon ,crazy carl

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A. Muñoz - 12 years ago

Man, this is great. Highly detailed, easy to do, no major modifications, and I really appreciate that you didn't try to monetize it by selling plans or something. Thanks!

cnn94001 - 12 years ago

WELL DONE!!! is your rudder retractable? have you had problem sailing in shallow water? GREAT JOB!!

Robbie Burnett - 12 years ago

You should make the steering with foot pedals

sgreen4 - 12 years ago

I wish you had a someone else take the video of you

Joseph Melia - 12 years ago

Great Job... You have inventiveness and skills,I don't know how you can keep upright without an outrigger while sailing though.I suppose,with your abilities it wouldn't be much of a challenge to add a leeboard and outriggers...Kudos to you sir.Good luck with it.

Nicholas Noble - 12 years ago

I figured out that makeing a frame to place on top ot the kayak and using eyelets and cords to strap it down and then attatching leeboards using old cheep raft paddles worked a lot better that the center board on the bottom of the kayak.That way you can lift up the leeboards when you get in shallow water or in heavy weather. As for the support on the mast. If you screw in small eyelets into the the bow, starboard, port of your kayak, the attach a forstay and shrowds that would fix your stability

RLZerr - 12 years ago

When I first built this I did not have the orange 1 1/4" thick wall polyethylene conduit. The centerboard mount was a piece of 1 1/4" PVC pipe epoxied to an aluminum plate that was heated and slightly melted flat into the kayak. Extra polyethylene was melted and squeezed tight around the edges of the plate to seal it. this did eventually loosen and started leaking. Luckily shortly after that I found the conduit and replaced the assembly. I've picked up another scrap piece along a road recently.

RLZerr - 12 years ago

No, never any leakage. Even at the part that is blocked from welding from the top due to the seat being in the way. Two plastic surfaces welded together is virtually just as strong as the material itself, and it is reinforced with extra polyethylene as shown, and welded again. It's never cracked, leaked or otherwise come lose in 7 years. It gets bumped by legs, feet, cargo, etc.. The top of the riser tube is over 2 inches higher than the water will come up even with a heavy load.

RLZerr - 12 years ago

Sorry late response. I've thought about changing the centerboard mount to a sleeve to fit the board so it can be pulled up to clear land and would be the strongest way to mount it. Just like in a Laser, Sunfish, Snark, etc. Successfully fabricating a functional sleeve from sheet polyethylene and welding it around a slot in the kayak would be a tough job with a small welder but is an idea to ponder, and I might just try it :)

RLZerr - 12 years ago

I'm thinking of enlarging the sail for more speed in low winds. I have a larger carbon fiber non-flexing mast now that I have yet to install. The current sail is about 29-30 sq feet now, maybe go larger as much as 40 sq feet without an outrigger. I want to keep it as simple as possible and feel confident body weight alone will keep it upright :).

RLZerr - 12 years ago

Sorry late response. The hickory rake handle fits tight in the 1" heavy duty PVC mast but it still flexes too much. It has never broken though. I'm still sailing with it but now have a two and a quarter inch diameter carbon fiber mast that tapers down towards the top. It came from an old windsurfer. I want to use the existing 1 1/4 mast mount but haven't figured the best way to adapt it. I've been looking at some aluminum and PVC fittings.

RLZerr - 12 years ago

On plastic welding, a person could get by without a welder and plastic weld rod. Two polyethylene surfaces can be carefully heated to melt temperature and joined together for a superior bond. They MUST be the same grade of polyethylene though. You can join LDPE and HDPE (low density and high density polyethylene) but the bond will not be as strong. Most kayaks are HDPE. A plastic welder is best, but you can use a heat gun (larger areas) or a large magnifying lens (with dark shades and caution)

RLZerr - 12 years ago

@PimDonatz Awesome! What kind of welder? I've also done a number of plastic welds on other projects using a large magnifying or Fresnel lens and sunlight. And a pair of VERY dark sunglasses! Must be careful as it can quickly overheat and burn so practice on scrap.

RLZerr - 12 years ago

@fie1231 It's great fun! Building and sailing both. Especially when you can build things with "junk" items lying around. There's a Facebook page called "Skinny Hull Canoe and Kayak Sailing" with over 200 members. You can see lots of crafty designs. Most of the people there have done similar home projects.

RLZerr - 12 years ago

@masterofsurvival Keeping the kayak light is a priority to me. I wanted it simple, easy to carry and launch from anywhere. I don't think a lead keel would be a good idea myself. No need worrying about tipping in a sudden strong gust. Once used to the feel of the rig and how it handles. The quick rudder and sail control is instantly responsive on such a small craft. Strong gust, just quickly turn into the wind more or let the sail out some. I've never tipped while sailing.

RLZerr - 12 years ago

@masterofsurvival Building something that works from inexpensive or free stuff is half the fun. I wouldn't want to use any iron or steel, it would rust out in no time. I sail in salt water. The clip that hooks the guyline to the top of the mast to the front of the kayak completely corroded away in a couple years. It was made out of chrome plated zinc. Brass, stainless steel and aluminum are the only metals that are reliable in salt water.

Toast - 12 years ago

no centreboard???

Pim Donatz - 12 years ago

i followed your idea by welding plastic. This way i made a clamp for the ruder, and hole and foot for the mast. regards, Pim see : kayak sailing pim

Joseph Melia - 12 years ago

Great job...looks like fun too.

Cody Johnson - 12 years ago

Just like tig welding without the pretty light

gonedeepseafishing - 12 years ago

Like it

michael andersen - 12 years ago

have done something like that and have experimented with kayaks canoes windsurfers and dinghyes and rowing boats so this video was just wonderful and showed Im not crazy all alone lol very good -keep up the good work Michael Denmark 54

Chiefman - 13 years ago

Nice work

Andy182w - 13 years ago

Great idea.

MrJoeyBoombotz - 13 years ago

I enjoyed this video a lot. Very nice work.

oldetavern - 13 years ago

Great idea and a well done video! Thanks for posting this :-)

Dave Robbie - 13 years ago

That really moves! Great ideas!

deltafour1212 - 13 years ago

PRETTY DAMN SLICK!

redangelleo - 13 years ago

Great job! I love it when people invent their own freedom, and make it WORK!

Jerrod Bearden - 13 years ago

Have you not had leaking problems with the center board?

Arthur Steagall Condé - 13 years ago

Fantastic! easy to do and it really works...lets improve a sulution for its structural weakness at the centerboard (my sugestion)

George Lukus - 14 years ago

Nice!

Nicholas Noble - 14 years ago

@RLZerr Awesome! I actually got a aluminum mast now, its 3/4" but I found out it still bends, I found a wooden dowel that fits so I shoved it in there and that did the trick.

RLZerr - 14 years ago

@Whitebear329 Sorry, no website anymore.

RLZerr - 14 years ago

@Whitebear329 Sorry, Geocities decided to bail so no details there anymore.

RLZerr - 14 years ago

@superdave98008 That might be a good idea. But need adequate clearance from the junk between the legs. A removable centerboard off the side attached over the top of your lap might be a better idea but cumbersome. I guess it doesn't necessarily need to be in the center to work.

RLZerr - 14 years ago

@dmitrioguz Yes, that's why the extra layers and welds around the center riser pipe that holds the centerboard stem. Lots of force when at speed, as well as on the mast. The centerboard has broken off a few times and had to be repaired. Usually from running aground. I always have a PFD.

RLZerr - 14 years ago

@nicholasnoble I inserted a wooden rake handle through the mast. Bought at Lowe's. It's still not as rigid as I'd like so if I was to do it again I'd spend some extra money and buy aluminum pipe for the mast. Ace Hardware has it.

RLZerr - 14 years ago

@zigzagchris The mast is about 8 feet. I made it that long so that it would fit inside my SUV.

Nicholas Noble - 14 years ago

I love your design. I made a sail for my kayak too, Its a Gaff rig about 8ft tall. The only thing I'm having trouble with is reinforcing the mast. How do you keep it from flexing too much? Especially when reaching into the wind?

john darmiento - 14 years ago

I used your idea for the rudder but i didnt weld I screwed and glued It works great with my half moon sail check it out on my patriot sail kayak

H202 - 14 years ago

Fantastic job.you are the modern day Inuit, builing stuff from what is washed up on the beach great video.

amazonhippie - 14 years ago

I learned a lot more than just how to make a sail. Great video!

Scotty Thompson - 14 years ago

It says the geocities link is no longer hosted? is there a new site?

Pedroskini - 14 years ago

Wow, how cool is that ?! Great job, very ingenious.

RLZerr - 15 years ago

Yes, the centerboard has broken off a few times, but it was due to striking the bottom too fast or once, a submerged log. All but one time have been able to recover it and just made a new PVC stem. The PVC tube holding the centerboard snaps off, which is a bit of a safety feature as the polyethylene tube riser is stronger and reinforced with multiple welds and two layers of polyethylene. I always carry a life vest.

dixieoutlaw4x4 - 15 years ago

great job! and excellent walk thru in the video!

RLZerr - 15 years ago

They kayak is 10 and a half feet long. You can get a plastic welder like this one online. Google "ATV fender welder"

RLZerr - 15 years ago

Unstable winds have caught me off guard and have stressed the boom fitting on the mast to where it broke, thus the reinforcement. an outrigger would be nice as sitting to one side inside a kayak can get uncomfortable. I did this project as a ultra simple and cheap sailing 'yak and as long as winds are 5-10mph it works great and is a load of fun.

Brock Mclean - 15 years ago

Nice mod. I'm thinking about attempting this and it just so happens I live in Destin... maybe I'll try to get with you but I think I want some outriggers first....

consumeless - 15 years ago

That's a really well done video, and a great project. I'll be using it as inspiration.

alienfromirth - 15 years ago

Thanks for putting this up! It inspired me to hang on to my old rotomolded CD Squall and outfit the thing for sailing. Only kayak sailing I have done was when I lashed the 2 halves of my spare paddle together in a T and tied my rain parka to it...

harmsworth1 - 15 years ago

Nice job, thanks for sharing.

RLZerr - 15 years ago

Thanks for the great ideas!

Michael Crumpton - 15 years ago

Nice project, and really exceptional video. If you do change your rudder arrangement you might consider using a large door hinge for the pivot instead of the PVC. If you change the tiller on the rudder to a "T" and have the ropes go to the top ends of the "T" it should give you the leverage to get a sharper turn. It is quite impressive how well the boat sails!