How to cycle a reef tank/cure live rock. How to build a reef tank part 9.

A lot to take in!!. Please note that when adding fish food to tank, to create ammonia, to feed the bacteria, it can take up to 6 days for the food to rot into ammonia. So when adding some food, wait and see how long it takes for you to see ammonia, then see how long it takes for the ammonia to go down, before adding more food. If the ammonia goes down in 12 hours or less, then your tank is ready to go. If it takes longer for the ammonia to go down then you need to add some more food. Keep adding some food, and testing to see the ammonia spike and, how long it takes to go down. It can also take Up to 6 days for dead stuff on live rock to rot into ammonia, so wait at least 6 days before adding fish, when using live rock. Dead/dry ocean can have dead stuff on it. It can be live rock that has been dried out, so all the sponges and coralline algae is dead, but still on the rock. This will mean a lot of dead stuff for the bacteria to eat, but also a lot of phosphate and nitrate, being produced by the dead matter on the rock. Placing the rock in some R.O.D.I water, in the tank or in a plastic trash can, for a few weeks, will help remove the dead stuff. A 100% weekly water change can then be done to help remove any phosphates and nitrates. If you are adding the rock to an established tank or an upgrade, you need to make sure the rock is completely free of dead matter, and ammonia is zero, before adding it to your tank. If it is a new tank then a bit do dead stuff is O.K. The dead stuff will rot into ammonia, and feed the bacteria to help cycle the tank. Only when ammonia is zero ,do you add fish to a tank. If your dry ocean rock has no dead stuff on it, it is still a good idea to soak it in some R.O.D.I water for a few weeks, to remove any phosphates. Every thing you need to know about mixing up sea water, dry rock, dry sand, live sand, the nitrogen cycle, and adding fish. You could mix the salt water in a separate container. Easy if you have a 10-20g tank. Not so easy if you have a 55g+ tank. That why I say to mix the salt water in the tank. You could use a large trash can or similar. You tank has a heater power heads and skimmer to help mix the salt. You could add the sand first, (live or dry) then push some of it to the side, so you can put the rocks on the glass bottom of the tank, before moving the sand back around the rocks. You could build the aquascape in the tank with out water in it. Just remember the live rock or live sand should not be exposed to the air for more than half 1 hour, so it does not dry out. You don't get this problem with dry rock/sand. The salifert test kit shown, dose not test for both forms of ammonia. It is an O.K test kit but not the best. When aquascaping your rock, try to make it as open as possible, with caves tunnels and islands. If the rock is pushed back against the back wall, (in one pile) any rock face that is not open to the water flow will not be live. The bacteria on the rock need a constant flow of water be survive. Open rock work will also help prevent build ups of fish waste. The rock can be glued together with reef safe coral glue, or reef safe epoxy putty.

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A lot to take in!!. Please note that when adding fish food to tank, to create ammonia, to feed the bacteria, it can take up to 6 days for the food to rot into ammonia. So when adding some food, wait and see how long it takes for you to see ammonia, then see how long it takes for the ammonia to go down, before adding more food. If the ammonia goes down in 12 hours or less, then your tank is ready to go. If it takes longer for the ammonia to go down then you need to add some more food. Keep adding some food, and testing to see the ammonia spike and, how long it takes to go down. It can also take Up to 6 days for dead stuff on live rock to rot into ammonia, so wait at least 6 days before adding fish, when using live rock. Dead/dry ocean can have dead stuff on it. It can be live rock that has been dried out, so all the sponges and coralline algae is dead, but still on the rock. This will mean a lot of dead stuff for the bacteria to eat, but also a lot of phosphate and nitrate, being produced by the dead matter on the rock. Placing the rock in some R.O.D.I water, in the tank or in a plastic trash can, for a few weeks, will help remove the dead stuff. A 100% weekly water change can then be done to help remove any phosphates and nitrates. If you are adding the rock to an established tank or an upgrade, you need to make sure the rock is completely free of dead matter, and ammonia is zero, before adding it to your tank. If it is a new tank then a bit do dead stuff is O.K. The dead stuff will rot into ammonia, and feed the bacteria to help cycle the tank. Only when ammonia is zero ,do you add fish to a tank. If your dry ocean rock has no dead stuff on it, it is still a good idea to soak it in some R.O.D.I water for a few weeks, to remove any phosphates. Every thing you need to know about mixing up sea water, dry rock, dry sand, live sand, the nitrogen cycle, and adding fish. You could mix the salt water in a separate container. Easy if you have a 10-20g tank. Not so easy if you have a 55g+ tank. That why I say to mix the salt water in the tank. You could use a large trash can or similar. You tank has a heater power heads and skimmer to help mix the salt. You could add the sand first, (live or dry) then push some of it to the side, so you can put the rocks on the glass bottom of the tank, before moving the sand back around the rocks. You could build the aquascape in the tank with out water in it. Just remember the live rock or live sand should not be exposed to the air for more than half 1 hour, so it does not dry out. You don't get this problem with dry rock/sand. The salifert test kit shown, dose not test for both forms of ammonia. It is an O.K test kit but not the best. When aquascaping your rock, try to make it as open as possible, with caves tunnels and islands. If the rock is pushed back against the back wall, (in one pile) any rock face that is not open to the water flow will not be live. The bacteria on the rock need a constant flow of water be survive. Open rock work will also help prevent build ups of fish waste. The rock can be glued together with reef safe coral glue, or reef safe epoxy putty.

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for How to cycle a reef tank/cure live rock. How to build a reef tank part 9.

Ulises Minotto
Ulises Minotto - 7 years ago
You have the toxicity levels incorrect.

Ammonia=toxic
Nitrite=toxic
Nitrate=not toxic at low levels
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 7 years ago
Ulises Minotto There is no evidence to suggest that nitrite is toxic to marine fish. It can be toxic to fresh water fish. I've also seen, S P. S tanks with 100ppm nitrates. I would not recommend it, but in certain circumstances high nitrates, have no affect on fish or corals. The reason I make these videos is because there is so much bad/poor information out there. You learn something new every day.
Littledil Gaming
Littledil Gaming - 7 years ago
great video I started tank 2 months ago everything is 0 and doing well I can't find anything on when coral can be introduced everyone in town told me it takes 6 months before it should be added is this true
Littledil Gaming
Littledil Gaming - 7 years ago
thanks for the input very helpful happy reefing
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 7 years ago
The cycle is over when you have zero ammonia. The tank could go into mini cycles when you add fish, if you are continuing to build up bacteria. This is not always the case. All these mini cycles are normally undetectable and harmless to fish. May not be quite so harmless to corals. Looks like your cycle was 100% over, as you added fish with no problem.  No need to wait 6 months for cycle to be over. No reason why your corals can't survive. You will need to feed them a bit. They normally eat dissolved organic waste (fish poo and pee). As you have no fish to create any waste they might need lightly feeding. Add any fish very slowly, leaving 4-7 day between each addition. GOOD luck.
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 7 years ago
Littledil Gaming if you leave the tank free from fish for 4-6 weeks it will be ich free.
Littledil Gaming
Littledil Gaming - 7 years ago
TheFishTank Doc. they said to make sure cycle proses is over and tank is stable had fish but lost all 3 to a battle of ice but sense then got a quarantine tank and ready to try again in the mean time iv added 2 coral just to try my hand they seem to do well so far just searching the Web found nothing on it anyway thanks for responding
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 7 years ago
Ask then why 6 months?. what are they waiting for. I would make sure you have all the fish you intend to keep. Then make sure you can keep nitrates below 20ppm,  and phosphate below 0.03ppm for about 4 weeks. Then add some easy to keep corals like zoa's or candy cane, and see what happends..
SovsBorg
SovsBorg - 7 years ago
Thank you for this.
SovsBorg
SovsBorg - 7 years ago
+TheFishTank Doc. They do...You just did it much better than them. Glad you're here.
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 7 years ago
SovsBorg Your welcome. Very few reefers tell you the basic facts.
Hĕmáŋt Kŭmåŗ
Hĕmáŋt Kŭmåŗ - 8 years ago
Doc I am on the cycling stage of my tank aded live rock around 80kg ......and the system is running
the question is do I keep my lights on while the cycling period is going or no lights at all
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 8 years ago
it depends what kind of rock you have. if you have live rock with lots of colour on it, like pink coraline algae, then yes you need to keep the lights on for 8 hours per day. if you have dry/dead rock, then you don't need to keep the lights on.
eric olsen
eric olsen - 8 years ago
What do you think about using porous lava rock in sump or even in main display. I compare it to Marine Pure blocks. Can you cure it with dry rock? Will corals grow on it? what do you think? Love your channel.
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 8 years ago
You can't use larva rock in any marine set up. you need calcium carbonate ocean rock. larver rock may alter your p.h, and water chemistry. It could add copper or more likely iron to your tank. larver rock is for fresh water, very different to salt water.
Brennan Ferris
Brennan Ferris - 8 years ago
If I added live sand and live rock 20 days ago and my levels are all in check and ammonia and nitrite are 0, am I ready to add fish?
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 8 years ago
+Brennan Ferris Yes you are. You might have been ready after only 3/4 days. Unless you tested high ammonia levels. It is common myth and mistake made by many new reefers, that you need you need to wait if you use live rock and or live sand. You just need to wait 3-4 days to ensure nothing has died on the rock/sand when you placed it in your tank, causing an ammonia spike!!!. The rock/sand is already live, so has all the nitrogen cycle bacteria you need. As stated in the video, you just need to add the fish slowly.
REEFER JAMES
REEFER JAMES - 9 years ago
Very Informative Doc, Great Video!
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 9 years ago
Thank you James.  I think your well past this stage in your reef tank knowledge, however I often watch videos like this, because you never know when you might learn something new, often however, I end up tell the reefer he's got it all wrong!!.
Mr JackBurton
Mr JackBurton - 9 years ago
Day 3 of the cycle. 50lb dry rock and 50lb of live sand. Added 2.5lb of live rock with alot of pink and purple coraline. Ammonia at .25 i turn the skimmer on for 4 or 5hrs a night when i am home. I also have been using carbon and rowaphos n a reactor. Is it to early for the carbon, rowa and skimmer? Also i added No food or xtra bacteria. Inexpensive api test kit. My phos tester is salifert.
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 9 years ago
Don't forget if you have low ammonia, you will have a low amount of waste/die off from the rock sand. This is good, because your tank will cycle quicker. It will mean your skimmer might over flow if turned up to high. So only keeping it on when your at home, is a good idea.
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 9 years ago
A.P.I test kits are not the best, however the ammonia test kit is as good as any other, so stick with the a.p.i ammonia.  I would not use any other A.P.I  test kit. Use a salifert NO4 (nitrate) test kit, and it should show that the ammonia has turned into nitrite (NO2), and then nitrate (NO3) This will tell you that bacteria are doing what they should. If you have 0.25 ammonia it just means that something died on the live rock or in the sand. It should only take a day for this ammonia go down to zero, and then you are ready for fish. (add fish slowly 10% every 3-4 days)
There should be no need to add any bacteria as you should have enough with the live rock/sand. You should not need to feed the tank.  You only feed the tank to build up the levels of bacteria, if you are using dry sands and dry rock.
It is never to early to get the @Rowa Phos' /carbon going. You want Phosphate below 0.03, to prevent algae growth, and the rock from adsorbing phosphate, It all sounds good to me.
Mr JackBurton
Mr JackBurton - 9 years ago
Great info doc as i am soon ready for my cycle. R.O.D.I just came in. Dry rock will he here n 2 days. I will he using 50 lbs of dry rock and only a few lbs of live rock. I was going to use natures ocean bio active sand.
Question. When it comes to the "live sand"do i add it after my water and salt like with the live rock? It seems like a hastle to add sand after water.
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TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 9 years ago
Good point. You need to add the water and then the salt. You can't add salt directly to a tank with any thing live in it. You could if you wanted mix the salt and water in a separate container (clean trash can).  Add the sand to the tank, with or with out water in it. move some of the sand to the edge so you can see the glass bottom where you want to put the aquasacape/live rock. Then add the rock. Then spread the sand around the rock. You could then add the ready mixed salt water at this point. The only reason I say to mix water and salt in tank first, is that most people don't have a 55 or 100g trash can. Your skimmer and heads will also help mix the water!!. You also need to get the live rock sand under water as soon as possible. With dry rock it dose not matter. Add the sand, then a bit of water, then build the aquascape, then top up the tank with salt water. Just make sure any opened bag of sand or any live rock is not left out of water for more than 1 hour.

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