Introduction, and how a reef tank works. How to build a reef tank part 1.

Using a protein skimmer and live rock is known as the Berlin methord, and is the main methord by which most marine reef tanks work.

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Using a protein skimmer and live rock is known as the Berlin methord, and is the main methord by which most marine reef tanks work.

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My Opinion
My Opinion - 4 years ago
How is it that I have seen tanks without skimmers and live rock that are absolutely gorgeous?
Kai Souto
Kai Souto - 4 years ago
Thank you, This video gas been one of the most easieat for me to understand.
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 4 years ago
Kai Souto Thanks. Sorry it's a lot of reading to read all 16 parts.
Jackie Larkin
Jackie Larkin - 4 years ago
thank you!! you answered so many questions I have and wasn't sure how to ask. I look forward to watching your videos.
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 4 years ago
Thank you. I have 15 vids on how to start a reef tank. Sorry it's alot of reading. Lots to learn, just take it slowly.
Erik Serrano
Erik Serrano - 6 years ago
Hi, How do I get rid of green hair algae. I have a 36 gallon saltwater tank set up for a month now. I have 3 fish, 2 emerald crabs, 3 cleaner shrimp. I use RODI water only. My protein skimmer is always on. I did a 40% water change after a month. I recently hanged a bag of phospate and nitrate remover in the aquarium. My led lights are on 15 hours a day. I feed once a day. Please help!
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
+Erik Serrano You need to remove the phosphates. You need a test kit that will test down to 0.03 like salifert.You need to put the phosphate remover in a reactor, so the water flows through it. Just hanging a bag of phosphates remover in your tank will not work. See part 8 on phosphate reactors. I have some vids on phosphates, green hair algea, and testing for phosphates, in the myths and mistakes play list. Your phosphate levels should be 0.03 or below.I have a vid on how to remove green hair algae as well.Newyork steelo's vid will tell you very little of what you need to know.
Rob Goldsmith
Rob Goldsmith - 6 years ago
Cool video, ive never used a protein skimmer though in nano tanks, they arent really needed if you are doing weekly 10% water changes. Here is my Skimmer-les tank - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOgFwHIHgks :)
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
+Rob Goldsmith  If it works for you in the long term, then stick with it.  Doing a 10% water change on a 12g nano is easy, and will help put back trace elements. I do a 5% weekly water change on my 100g.
DS. Kim
DS. Kim - 6 years ago
good.
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
+김덕성 Hello to the far east.Thank you.
Bamacher59
Bamacher59 - 6 years ago
Hello I would like to ask you a question? Iam going to buy a custom aquarium build I only can use the length of 36 inches. What width and height would you use. I was thinking 36lx 24w x 18h. I know the depth is inportent because of the lighting. I would appreciate your view on this. Iam hooked on this now thank you
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
The more width you have, the more fish you can keep, with out having to add any extra lighting, to light the front of the tank. 24 inches sounds fine. If your tank was over 24 inches deep it then becomes harder to reach the bottom and aquascape the tank. An 18 inch deep tank would make it easy to reach the bottom, particularly if it was 24 inches in width. T.5 lighting will only reach a depth of 2 feet. Metal halides and high powered L.E.D will reach deeper than 24 inches, but as you probably wont want to go deeper than 24 inches, it makes little difference which lighting you choose. (see part 6). The bigger the tank the better, as it won't cost that much moor to increase the height or width. If you can find something similar in hight  and width at your local fish store, then stick your hand in side and see how easy it is to reach the bottom. Reaching the bottom easily, will making it easier when it comes to managing corals!!!.
Daveyboy
Daveyboy - 6 years ago
Awesome videos ..Thank you
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
Thanks for watching.
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
protein skimmers actively remove waste products  from the water along with any dead organisms or uneaten food before it has a chance to break down and compromise water quality. in addition to their primary function of removing organic materials from the water protein skimmers reduce nitrate buildup and helps prevent aggressive algae growth and improve water clarity to enhance light penetration for a brighter,cleaner, and clearer water with less waste to process, your existing filter will also be able to function more efficiently reducing the amount of time you spend on regular aquarium maintenance  a protein skimmer removes organic compounds from the water. A protein skimmer works by creating tiny bubbles in a reaction chamber.Organic waste adhere to these bubbles through a chemical process called adsorption.   HAPPY REEFING 
Nicholas Beattie
Nicholas Beattie - 6 years ago
+Buddy Sheroka I never said that copper won't kill your bacteria. You have to listen and understand what is being said, if you wan't to be a scientist. I said that in the dose required to kill ich, copper will not kill your bacteria. 
It was doc who said copper won't kill your bacteria, which is only true, providing you don't overdose it. If you fully understood what you are talking about you would have said this in you video.  
I have to admit this is not my field of science. I studied geography and geological sciences, and then oceanography.
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
+Nicholas Beattie Thanks nick for helping me out. The thing I get annoyed about sometimes is, I used to be a new be at one time, and when you don't fully understand the hobby, watching misleading videos made it hard work setting up a tank. 
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
almost everything you're saying I have already said on this page and I'm sorry to inform you that you are no kind of scientist if you simply do a Google search will copper destroy the nitrogen cycle you will come up with many forms written by scientists and marine biologists explaining this adversely affects beneficial bacteria So you think you would do a little more research before you comment on something that you are clearly not educated on and I've already explained everything about live rock invertebraes in the statement that I made on this page thank you for your thoughts
Nicholas Beattie
Nicholas Beattie - 6 years ago
There are two reasons why it is not used in live rock tank (excluding the fact you may have corals, clams, starfish ect... in there)
1: It will kill any invertebrates like bristle worms, slugs and snails, and therefore may cause an ammonia spike.
2; The copper will get adsorbed by the rock, making it difficult to maintain the correct dosage.
It has nothing to do with the nitrogen cycle. A Q.T tank still has a filter containing nitrogen cycle bacteria. 
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
copper destroys many of the gram bacteria that is important to the nitrogen cycle severely suppressing the nitrogen cycle that's why it is used in hospital tanks I explained that in full detail in my last statement and I can understand how that can be very misleading but I did explain in the subtitles and explained in detail in the comments below I really appreciate your thoughts and thank you
Nicholas Beattie
Nicholas Beattie - 6 years ago
Looks like you two are having a few problems, so let me help you both out.
As a reef scientist I have watched Buddy's ich video And found it most confusing.
In the video Buddy states that copper will kill all your beneficial bacteria (nitrogen cycle bacteria).
At the level of copper required to kill the ich parasite, copper will not kill any beneficial bacteria, (although some fish like puffer fish might be affected by the copper)
It would kill bacteria if you over dosed it, but then it would also kill your fish.
So just saying copper will kill your beneficial bacteria is very miss leading. I could say that iodine, alkalinity, magnesium, even common salt (sodium chloride), and ich attack will kill your beneficial bacteria, so should we not add any thing to are tanks. You would of cause have to overdose all the these things, to kill any bacteria. Saying copper kills bacteria is no different to saying iodine kill bacteria. Yes it is very easy to overdose copper, far easier than overdosing magnesium say, but is much easier to dose copper in a Q.T tank, than sitting back and watching your fish die from ich.
Doing anything from the start, like garlic, U.V, or keeping fish well fed, will not do any good if they already have ich. If they don't have ich then you don't need to do anything.
The only method of treating ich, that any scientist who knows there stuff would recommend, is a Q.T tank, and copper or hyposalinity, so the whole video is pointless. Sorry to have to tell you this, but it is not my opinion, just a fact!!!!.  
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
it's much harder to explain than just a simple yes answer so here we go copper is generally toxic to all marine life in high doses but fish or less susceptible to this toxicity zan invertebraes are sensitive to copper at 0. 1 mg / L and below so it cannot be used in a reef tank without disaster disastrous consequences some fish are sensitive to copper such as angelfish butterflyfish some rashes blennies cardinalfish and dragonettes copper also destroys many of the grand bacteria that are important to the nitrogen cycle so it is used in hospital tanks warrants the vigilance of testing for ammonia nitrite and nitrate also copper ions bond to the carbonate ions in solution and are removed by then it should not be used in an aquarium with a rag and ice and copper it is required by most cells in very small quantities it serves as a cofactor for specific enzymes and is important to their function at higher doses then trace quantities Ifans inappropriately to other enzymes and disables then any cell that readily absorbed copperfrom solution will likely be killed by it there are two forms of copper available for therapeutic use ionic and chelated ionic copper is generally copper sulfate which is found in mortals copper safe ionic copper is readily absorbed by aquarium seals rocks glass and some bad bacteria and aragonite sand it's concentration is difficult to cancel but must be kept between 0.15 and 0.2 angie slash lit's concentration is difficult to cancel but must be kept between 0.15 and 0.2 mg/l no like I said I really urge you to do more research like you tell your listeners read read read
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
+Buddy Sheroka Why do you keep changing the subject, and not answer the question.
Could you give me simple YES or NO. Does copper kill the beneficial nitrogen cycle bacteria as you have stated in your ich video.
If the answer is NO, then this is different to what you have said. If the answer is yes, then this cant be correct , because copper can be used in a Q.T tank with out an ammonia spike.
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
copper can be toxic for some species of fin fish and are deadlyl for most invertebrates chronic copper exposure will also adversely affect fish health sublethal and toxic levels of copper damaged gills and other tissue of fish and also known to depress the immune system of fish this is why I'm not fond of copper medications like I said do more research
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
You are not reading what I am saying.
You said that copper kills the beneficial bacteria. If this is true, how can you use copper in a Q.T tank, with out killing the good bacteria.
As for the 80%. You said that I Said it was 100%, which I have never said, so unless you show me where I've said 100% you have lost!!!.
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
OKay u lost the battle on that one now you want to challenge me on treating copper in a quarantine tank that is fine I'm talking about your main display tank and I'm talking about a coral reef aquarium not talking about treating with copper in a quarantine tank and I never said copper medications would not work I said I wasn't fond of them because copper with severely damaged inverts within the main display tank and damage I mean kill I never said anything about a quarantine tank if you're referring to my ick video what I said was ripping my fish out of my tank and dis arranging my aquarium doesn't work for me and I have treated dick in my main display tank several times and have been successful due to the fact that I know what I'm doing unlike somebody that's just been in the hobby for 2 years or so or whatever research some things on the internet and now think they're educated it's just silly and really I have nothing more to say I can nitpick on every one of your videos but I'm not trying to diminish anyone in the hobby
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
You still need to look at things logically.
Take for example the fact that you said copper kills the nitrogen cycle bacteria. You need the nitrogen cycle bacteria all marine tanks,reef tanks, fish only with live rock, and quarantine tanks. A Q.T tank has a simple filter on the back, with a filter sponge in it, to provide some where for the nitrogen cycle bacteria to live.
Many reefers have used copper in Q.T.tanks, to treat ich or marine velvet. If the copper killed the good bacteria, the a Q.T tank, that many marine biologists recommend, the copper would not work with out ammonia shooting up. 'Mr salt water tanks' Quarantine guide recommends copper in a Q.T tank. It is written With Dr Tim a marine biologist. Are you going to tell him copper won't work, because it will cause an ammonia spike, because I'm not!!!!.  
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
The coarls still requires the other 20% zooxanthellae does not translate enough organic carbon to sustain the coral Permanently they do require that other 20% of nutrition and this was a topic that was highly debated over hobbyist for many years but studies have proven what I said was true
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
photosynthetic corals living at different depths within the ocean the zooxanthellae have adapted over time to require less light that does not mean that they provide that coral less nutrition so for photosynthetic corals they provide 80 percent of its nutrition there is no argument there if you go to red seas website they will tell you it's roughly 85 percent but indeed the correct number is 80% if you would like a second opinion on what I'm telling you and there's many other threads online and in the library on the same topic happy reefing
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
Hahahahaha lol the symbiotic relationship between zooxanthellae and coarls non photosynthetic corals do not have a symbiotic relationship with zooxanthellae so if you're referring to that relationship nonphotosynthetic coral should not even be mentioned so I just think that's silly that you brought it up
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
You need to think things through both logically and scientifically. What I was pointing out is, it is not the same for all corals, and just using an extreem case, to pint out the fact it is different for all corals.  When you wrote your paper what did you base it on.
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
I just wrote a paper on this for school photosynthetic corals get 80 percent of their nutrition from the symbiotic relationship we're not talking about non photosynthetic corals that would be a little silly wouldn't it you think that would have been common sense but I guess it wasn't do some more research
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
talking about photosynthetic corals not non photosynthetic corals it took you that long you had to google it I know the stuff off the top of my head do you need to do more research I've been in the hobby what a year 2 years and I think you know something my 80 percent for photosynthetic corals is a hundred percent accurate you need more research
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
+Buddy Sheroka Is the level of nutrients that a coral gets from zooanthellae, not different for every coral. Different corals live at different depths in the wild, and so live off different strains of the algae. Some corals like a sun coral, don't use zooanthellae at all. Other corals benefit from feeding by hand more than others. so your 80% sounds a bit pointless. 
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
I'm studying to be a marine biologist
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
Where did I say they get 100% nutrition from zooxanthellae algae. I have stated many times that corals eat dissolved organic waste, and don't remember saying they get 100% nutrition from zooanthllae algae.
Where do you get the figure 80% from?.
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
and telling people that corals get a hundred percent of their nutrition from the symbiotic relationship with zooxanthellae algae is also incorrect the correct number is 80% maybe you don't fully understand coral nutrition
Buddy Sheroka
Buddy Sheroka - 6 years ago
sing a protein skimmer removes detritus didn't do much for me so I thought I'd add a little bit for you and make sure it was fully understood how it worked refers at all levels can understand that I just thought that was a better explanation than the one you gave that's all happy reefing
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 6 years ago
You are quite right in everything you say, how ever this is not a video on skimmers, it is a brief out line of how a feed tank works. To go into the detail that you have gone into, would be to confusing for a newbie at this stage. I have 14 more videos in
the series, that cover the things you have pointed out and more.

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REEFER JAMES
REEFER JAMES - 6 years ago
And the tank is Righteous! 
REEFER JAMES
REEFER JAMES - 6 years ago
Pure & Simple Pimp.  Great Vid!
ReeferGil
ReeferGil - 7 years ago
That was spot on info. Great job!
915Mang
915Mang - 7 years ago
I feel a little wiser, nice job
TheFishTank Doc.
TheFishTank Doc. - 7 years ago
Thanks

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