Sumps and why are they the greatest thing ever for reef aquariums

A sump is basically a secondary tank that your main display tank drains down into. They allow for a number of advantages for reef aquariums and I would personally never set up a system without one. Why do I love these things so much? First off, a sump is a great place to relocate all of your equipment. In systems that are just a stand-alone tank, the more technology that is added can start to clutter things up. The second big benefit to a sump is the surface skimming that an overflow provides. A big problem with tanks without an overflow is that scum tends to collect on the top surface. When the water in a main display drains down into a sump, the surface is cleared up nicely. The third advantage to having a sump is it provides additional water volume. Water volume is nice because it makes the overall system more consistent in terms of temperature and water chemistry because changes happen more slowly in larger volumes of water. The fourth advantage is flexibility. You can set up a sump in many different ways. You can make them as simple or as complicated as you like. There are plenty of people that use a regular glass aquarium as a sump but in this video we take a look at a high end sump that has specialized sections. Hopefully this video gave you some ideas for your own setup. If you like this video, please give it a thumbs up. Music: Tracks: “Groove Grove” Artist: Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) License Terms: Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/faq.html Video: Camera information: Canon C100 Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS macro Canon EF MP-E 65mm f/2.8 macro Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4-4.5 STM IS Sigma Art 18-35mm f/1.8 Sony Underwater Action Cam Copyright Information: This video was shot and edited by Tidal Gardens. Tidal Gardens owns all intellectual property rights to this content.

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A sump is basically a secondary tank that your main display tank drains down into. They allow for a number of advantages for reef aquariums and I would personally never set up a system without one. Why do I love these things so much? First off, a sump is a great place to relocate all of your equipment. In systems that are just a stand-alone tank, the more technology that is added can start to clutter things up. The second big benefit to a sump is the surface skimming that an overflow provides. A big problem with tanks without an overflow is that scum tends to collect on the top surface. When the water in a main display drains down into a sump, the surface is cleared up nicely. The third advantage to having a sump is it provides additional water volume. Water volume is nice because it makes the overall system more consistent in terms of temperature and water chemistry because changes happen more slowly in larger volumes of water. The fourth advantage is flexibility. You can set up a sump in many different ways. You can make them as simple or as complicated as you like. There are plenty of people that use a regular glass aquarium as a sump but in this video we take a look at a high end sump that has specialized sections. Hopefully this video gave you some ideas for your own setup. If you like this video, please give it a thumbs up. Music: Tracks: “Groove Grove” Artist: Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) License Terms: Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/faq.html Video: Camera information: Canon C100 Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS macro Canon EF MP-E 65mm f/2.8 macro Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4-4.5 STM IS Sigma Art 18-35mm f/1.8 Sony Underwater Action Cam Copyright Information: This video was shot and edited by Tidal Gardens. Tidal Gardens owns all intellectual property rights to this content.

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for Sumps and why are they the greatest thing ever for reef aquariums

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards - 6 years ago
very nice
Angel Lorenzo
Angel Lorenzo - 6 years ago
is there a link to buy sumps like that?
Man Cave Reef
Man Cave Reef - 6 years ago
Nice video and good information
spittingfeathers1
spittingfeathers1 - 6 years ago
Great video and explanation
Howard Gilmour
Howard Gilmour - 7 years ago
Took me years to learn without the internet, what you managed to explain in 7.27! Fantastic video, well made, narrated, backed up with imagery and some amazing specimens too. Great effort and love the video. Took me back to those amazing wonder years as a kid trying to figure out all the complexity of the marine environment.
ROBBIE WILLIAMS
ROBBIE WILLIAMS - 7 years ago
was that a load of red carpet nems at 1:28 ?
Cindy Gravatt
Cindy Gravatt - 7 years ago
Thank you so much... I’ve been going crazy trying to solve this problem for a long time
Christopher Sims
Christopher Sims - 7 years ago
Well done. I am about to start my first salt water and this was a great video on sumps. thank you
Ant Rikx
Ant Rikx - 7 years ago
Extremely good & informative video & very well planned. Felt like a professional documentary. thanks

10. comment for Sumps and why are they the greatest thing ever for reef aquariums

edstud1
edstud1 - 7 years ago
what kind of filter?
iworkman
iworkman - 7 years ago
Don't buy Red Sea Products, Products will wipe out your tank. And Red Sea doesn't care
Xavier Vax
Xavier Vax - 7 years ago
too complex
William Scarbrough
William Scarbrough - 7 years ago
It's actually not Xavier. It seems like it because people are use to HOB and or canister filters which are pretty simple, put in a cartridge or media and plug it in, boom done.. This is essentially the same thing but with a much larger capacity AND you can control the flow rate. You can also add live rock to the sump, chaeto and actually use it as a refugium and a filter at at the same time.
I felt the same way when I switched over and after finding out how easy it really is and how much better the filtration was, I'll never go back to HOB or especially canister filters.
Part of the intimidation factor is the cost of the sumps which I agree is high but you can get very simple DIY kits to make your own. Also is plumbing and head pressure of the pumps which can be researched.
I can only speak from what I experienced but I'll never go back to anything but a sump. Everyone thinks what they have is the best until they experience a problem that they'll never tell you about or blame the equipment but I can attest that sumps do deliver if you're willing to do the proper maintenance just like owning a car and expecting it to last 10-20 yrs or more.
Steve LaChappelle
Steve LaChappelle - 7 years ago
What if I wanted my refugium as a second tank to show?
Derek Pounds
Derek Pounds - 7 years ago
Kip from Napoleon dynamite.............
Northern Iggy
Northern Iggy - 7 years ago
Overhead sumps work well also, for smaller tanks. My 80gal has a built-in overhead sump in the Canopy (freshwater). So I pump the water 'up' and the sump overflows back down into the tank using gravity.
Mindboggle100
Mindboggle100 - 7 years ago
Than, as always an excellent, informative video... Now its my turn to offer you advice. Never let a woman get "under your skin", even if she is a reefer! ;-) All the best to you...
Eric Wadle
Eric Wadle - 7 years ago
do you have a link to that sump?
Jax
Jax - 7 years ago
Brah! bad ass videos and great advise but damn your voice and volume puts my ass to sleep haha "Clear Eyes Dry Eyes"
Alex Kingcole
Alex Kingcole - 7 years ago
Don't buy into prefab sumps, just use an empty aquarium. Done and cheap.

20. comment for Sumps and why are they the greatest thing ever for reef aquariums

Charles Lales
Charles Lales - 7 years ago
Hi, nice video, calm and instructive ;) For freshwater, what could be the best sump options / components / modules? Moreover, where can we order them online in Europa.. and even better, where can I find a dealer / good brand in Europa..?
Zara Inzam
Zara Inzam - 7 years ago
Hello do you suggest good filtration for 265 gallon freshwater tank..?
Im eagerly waiting for someone 1 adivices..
Where i can get cheaper sump systems for 265 gallon tank.?
Or where i can get the perfect engineering art of sumps to build in my country..
Zachary Coronado
Zachary Coronado - 7 years ago
My recommendation is to get a used aquarium. Get the supplies to convert it to a sump.

If not, then you can make sumps cheaply (but not very pretty), by getting a small rigid tub, like those used for small ponds.

Just don't use storage bins
hustlecoral vlogs
hustlecoral vlogs - 7 years ago
Im making a system out of 3 tanks a 70 and 65 gal and im hooking them both up too a 55 gal sump Im using a dcp 10000 jebao return pump Im looking for design suggestions!! Some thing like this possibly? sock skimmer // refug/frag rack display// then return section i have 4' to work with any help would be appreciated
Freeyourmind
Freeyourmind - 7 years ago
This guy sounds like Tom Green. lol
Mr Beepinheimer
Mr Beepinheimer - 7 years ago
Kerbal Space Program music??? (:
Meatbone1968
Meatbone1968 - 7 years ago
Cool video but way out of my league.
Javon Alston
Javon Alston - 7 years ago
your voice is so dam boring
Donald Trump
Donald Trump - 7 years ago
What is a sump?
turtlemaster45
turtlemaster45 - 6 years ago
a sump is a sump sir donald trump



Lol i rhyme
Troll Doll
Troll Doll - 7 years ago
Than!!! Than!!!!! THAN!!!!
Mr.SnugglyDick
Mr.SnugglyDick - 8 years ago
too fuckin complicated..damn my lil ol' brain hurts

30. comment for Sumps and why are they the greatest thing ever for reef aquariums

Donald E
Donald E - 8 years ago
Are the corals free range, GMO and Gluten free?
Andreu Ahn
Andreu Ahn - 8 years ago
I understand the benefits of sumps...but it sure does make it complicated and scary considering water is leaving the tank. If the water keeps leaving the tank and the return pump is broken...I hope in the future there will be a more minimalist approach. I think the sump aspect is what intimidates most people from pursuing reef tanks.
William Scarbrough
William Scarbrough - 7 years ago
I've had saltwater and reef tanks for 30 yrs, one of the best advances has been sumps by far. Greater filtering capacity and an incredible buffer as well as using your sump as a refugium of sorts.
It's very simply to break the siphon flow in the event of power failure which I've experienced once lol. Never had a sump or overflow ever clog up in over 6 years of sump use.
Simple fix to figure out your water level in the overflow box and drill a small 1/8" hole in the back below the water surface line in the J tube. When the pump fails (never had one yet but is inevitable) or power goes out, the sump fills up somewhat pulling water from the tank and head pressure drops in the J tube which will eventually break the siphon for you guaranteeing no spillage from your sump. Works like a charm :)!
iCST
iCST - 7 years ago
Andreu Ahn If you leave enough room in the sump and in the tank, you can avoid any accidents. It's not much water volume to compensate for anyways. I set my pump to a certain height in the sump so that it can't pump too much into the main tank ifthe overflow clogs. I also left enouh room in the sump in case the pump fails and water keeps flowing to the sump. I'll probably install an overflow in the sump just in case in the future, but it's quite secure with my current setup. Btw I use sumps in freshwater for extra insurance, as it stabilizes conditions for sensitive fish like rams and geophagus.
Al B
Al B - 7 years ago
"full proof"
Dan Dordai
Dan Dordai - 7 years ago
Andreu Ahn -...." water leaving the tank"... the water leaving the tank is the exact amount of water is pumped from the sump. If the pump stop working, so does the "water leaving the tank".
Dtt4
Dtt4 - 7 years ago
There's The Bean Animal approach to solve that.
Freemananana
Freemananana - 7 years ago
It's the same concept as a saltwater tank. It keeps all the equipment out of the tank. The only thing in my tank is a spray bar. I have three heaters in the sump along with spare media and CO2 equipment.

I don't really do YouTube. It was a bored afternoon thing.
Andreu Ahn
Andreu Ahn - 7 years ago
Thanks Freemananananana. Why would you need a sump for freshwater tank? I dunno...just the idea of having water leave the tank in that much volume scares me. What species do you have? You still gaming?
Freemananana
Freemananana - 7 years ago
Andreu Ahn Modern drains for sumps are full proof. No more faulty than a canister filter. Reefing is complicated for sure, but a sump doesn't have to be. I've used sumps on freshwater tanks for a few years now and I love them. The customization and sear volume of media and equipment not in the main tank is unmatched.
Emmanuel Perez
Emmanuel Perez - 8 years ago
great Video. keep these coming. Great job!
gordie french
gordie french - 8 years ago
the most peaceful videos are from tidal thank you than
i use a 40 gal as a refuge but can't find any macro that are colorful as yours here in canada.
every time i ask a fish store for some i get a strange look.
Jiren The savage
Jiren The savage - 8 years ago
looks too complicated and expensive, can i just use a canister filter on a fish only with some live rock?
William Scarbrough
William Scarbrough - 7 years ago
Well worth it Marcel. The difference is you can do so much more than a HOB type filter, especially a crap biowheel type that eventually stops spinning because it's not made for saltwater! Also you don't have to keep buying filter cartridges. The benefits a sump system is you can make it whatever capacity you want and you can add chems that will be dissolved before it actually gets into your tank. You may also be able to add chaeto as a natural denitrator and phosphate removal system with a simple light and enough space.
The other benefits are you can hide all of the equipment you would normally have sitting out in the open making your tank look less attractive. Not complicated at all but looks like it. Just be sure to plan for overflow by drilling a 1/8" hole in your J tube at the back of your overflow box to break siphon in the event of power failure.
Two of the best things to ever happen to saltwater reef tanks were the development of sump systems and now advanced lighting.
iCST
iCST - 7 years ago
Marcel Rodriguez I used a large plastic container, a diy overflow, a $10 400gph pump, and diy media with large foam boards as dividers and mechanicla filtration (pond foam) I use scrubbies, and rockwhool for biological filtration and activated carbon for chemical. It also has a compartment that I use as a refugium. It's pretty simple and effective.
Al Castillo
Al Castillo - 7 years ago
Marcel Rodriguez I've had great success with just an outside bio-wheel filter & changing 10% of water every month. As long as your biological filter is stable & you don't overcrowded & overfeed, you'll be successful
stealthballer
stealthballer - 8 years ago
Yup
Sobol Pavlov
Sobol Pavlov - 8 years ago
Подписываюсь на Ваш канал. Скажите,это самодельное оборудование?
Simon Stone
Simon Stone - 8 years ago
love all your vidoes, your voice is very relaxing to listern to
Roy Thompson
Roy Thompson - 8 years ago
Hi, nice video!. A question, asked a thousand times before....Flow rate thru' the sump..3x, 5x, 10x tank volume? Depends on skimmer? Water movement in main tank...10x, 20x, 30x? Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Howard Gilmour
Howard Gilmour - 7 years ago
Surprised nobody had a go at this one. Since they haven't, I'll try....

As you intimate, there is no 'law' here. You can demonstrate that by asking... 'what's the best situation between these two extremes'?. A) 10* turnover where you have purely a mechanical medium or B) 1* turnover where you have mechanical, biological, chemical and skimming plus and addition pump for movement in the tank! For me personally, I'd take an average from experts featured here and with an emphasis of making sure the methods were solid too (skimming, biological, chemical and mechanical to name the main ones).

Course it depends on what you're keeping (fish or inverts) plus other factors like husbandry. Why not come up with a list of variables and work out whether yours is a high, medium or low demand tank and work from there. You could take a low, medium or high average and be a bit better informed.
DuleProductions
DuleProductions - 8 years ago
Only purpose of sump is to put skimmer and reactors in it... also to increase amount of water for small tanks.
Reef tank can work amazingly without sump.
Very good and strong external skimmer bellow or next to the tank (in my case rated for 1.000 gallons) and customly made filtration/reactors system with enough live rocks in display tank and LED lights keep my 350 gallons tank in a perfectly clean and healthy shape with many happy creatures.
So, again, sump - one more myth in this hobby.
Tyler Matthew
Tyler Matthew - 7 years ago
DuleProductions I disagree entirely. My sump also has a Refugium and completely rids the need for reactors. I will never run another tank without one
William Scarbrough
William Scarbrough - 7 years ago
Not the only purpose and not a myth. Been doing this for 30 yrs and your simplistic explanation is not very well informed either. "Customly" isn't even a word the way you're using it lmao! I'm glad your tank is working out for you but with bigger tanks there is also a longer duration in error room. That's a fact and anyone in the hobby will tell you the same.
I don't use reactors but do use a HOB skimmer. I had no losses in my 90 gal reef tank in 6 yrs through proper maintenance and use of a sump as my filtration. Too many people want a hands off system that looks good (reactors) and know little to nothing about how and what they actually do other than what they're told. Good luck when you have a power failure too. Tanks like that are completely reliant on their mechanics and less on regular maintenance. Hopefully you don't experience that but your explanation is sorely lacking in information and more on bragging.
T Surro
T Surro - 8 years ago
Those life reef sumps are outrageous in price, not sure if they are worth it!!
Josh Haber
Josh Haber - 7 years ago
I just got mine, TOTALLY worth the cost! Don't forget Jeff's sump prices aren't JUST for the sump. They are complete systems including all the pumps, plumbing and they also come with the Skimmer as well. When you consider his products last 15+ years the cost is insignificant.
Bailey Brown
Bailey Brown - 8 years ago
thanks for the info I'm planning on getting my first saltwater set up going in January and your videos have helped me a lot! I'm so excited to get to the next step in my tanks!
Saltwater Gardens
Saltwater Gardens - 8 years ago
Indeed, best information video about sumps. Nice Than
Chris Czechowicz
Chris Czechowicz - 8 years ago
Sumps I love them! One day I'll have a Rubbermaid tub like you they seem awesome
Chris Czechowicz
Chris Czechowicz - 8 years ago
I wish I could have one. My tank is on the 2nd floor and if I get a Rubbermaid tub it would have to be at least a 150g one and I don't think it would be able to hold lol!
Tidal Gardens Inc.
Tidal Gardens Inc. - 8 years ago
The Rubbermaids are inexpensive as well. Less than $1 per gallon.
Matthew Pinkston
Matthew Pinkston - 8 years ago
Mr T , You nail it once again. Smooth Clean and Clear information. NO mucking around . Thank you
Tokyuuu
Tokyuuu - 8 years ago
As always spot on 10/10 video content :) Keep up the excellent work!
Dee From Brooklyn
Dee From Brooklyn - 8 years ago
Sump designs are endless in this day and age. i like your tub in the greenhouse
Dee From Brooklyn
Dee From Brooklyn - 8 years ago
+Tidal Gardens Inc. How about a Cylindrical acrylic sump
Tidal Gardens Inc.
Tidal Gardens Inc. - 8 years ago
I like the size for sure, but I am all about transparency now. I want to be able to see into the sides of everything so stuff doesn't get neglected.
Marine Aquarium
Marine Aquarium - 8 years ago
Two things you mentioned that I love, overflow blockage testing and water volume.
iZaher
iZaher - 8 years ago
Awesome videos man I really thank for your efforts
Feroz Reef
Feroz Reef - 8 years ago
Best information video about sump.
keep it up.
thank you
Tidal Gardens Inc.
Tidal Gardens Inc. - 8 years ago
Thanks Feroz
peter schrum IV
peter schrum IV - 8 years ago
Than have you ever seen a sump that used xenia as a filtration method like macro algea? I have heard of these and have my doubts. Do you have any thoughts on using xenia or other coral, maybe even clams as a means of filtering out particulates in the water column?
Tidal Gardens Inc.
Tidal Gardens Inc. - 8 years ago
I haven't personally no. I've also heard of people considering Aiptasia filters, but never in practice. Clams however supposedly reduce nitrates.

50. comment for Sumps and why are they the greatest thing ever for reef aquariums

Jeep Guy foley
Jeep Guy foley - 8 years ago
My main display is in my living room I would like to run my sump from my basement will I have a c02 build up from that and what would be a good return pump thank you
Maca
Maca - 8 years ago
Were do get a sump from in the uk
Tristan Beligan
Tristan Beligan - 8 years ago
You can sometimes find aquarium safe silicone at LFS
Tristan Beligan
Tristan Beligan - 8 years ago
You can build one yourself using a regular glass tank, glass panels, glass cutter, and silicone. You can most likely find the glass panels, cutter, and silicone at your hardware store. Make sure the silicone is aquarium safe though.
Elijah Faas
Elijah Faas - 8 years ago
+tidal gardens
Scott From Rosco's Reef
Scott From Rosco's Reef - 8 years ago
Awesome and informative video Than. Your friends sump is really nice and well thought out.
Tidal Gardens Inc.
Tidal Gardens Inc. - 8 years ago
Thanks. I tend to go for just a really big tank to use as a sump while others like it very compartmentalized.
TripedalTroductions
TripedalTroductions - 8 years ago
I like the Kerbal Space Program VAB music :)
chefdan87
chefdan87 - 8 years ago
One of the best games ever made, i noticed the soundtrack in this video as well. Ive put more hours in that game than any of my other games, there is really a endless amount of things to do or try.
TripedalTroductions
TripedalTroductions - 8 years ago
If you ever get time, I strongly recommend it. It's a lot of fun!
Tidal Gardens Inc.
Tidal Gardens Inc. - 8 years ago
I have heard someone say that before. I haven't played the game before though :/
jbliss2000007
jbliss2000007 - 8 years ago
great video than, what setting are you using on your camera to get the actual colors of the corals and not the blue glow?
William Scarbrough
William Scarbrough - 7 years ago
jbliss, if you're using a DSLR you'll have to manually set your white balance using a white (not opaque) lid in the tank and under the water. Try about 3"-4" under the surface and take a picture of the lid and use that exposure as your white balance. Should work much better for you.
jbliss2000007
jbliss2000007 - 8 years ago
+Tidal Gardens Inc. You're about that, I'm actually switching back to t5's. I noticed better growth and took better pictures. thanks for the reply
Tidal Gardens Inc.
Tidal Gardens Inc. - 8 years ago
It's not so much the settings of the camera it is the camera itself. Professional cinema cameras capture more image information so they tend to handle goofed up lighting artifacts better than DSLR's. Still, I can tell a big difference shooting corals under LED vs T5. T5 gives a more true color compared to LED.
KC Childers
KC Childers - 8 years ago
Great video Than...
Tidal Gardens Inc.
Tidal Gardens Inc. - 8 years ago
Thanks!
Peter Kistemaker
Peter Kistemaker - 8 years ago
Quite a supersump,but what about the pricetag on something like that without additional equipment......
Tidal Gardens Inc.
Tidal Gardens Inc. - 8 years ago
I don't know how much this particular one cost, but custom acrylic sumps are almost always expensive if they use a nice thick acrylic for construction.
Ted R.
Ted R. - 8 years ago
If you have to ask you can't afford it.
Bruce g Castro
Bruce g Castro - 8 years ago
Cool and interesting
Bruce g Castro
Bruce g Castro - 8 years ago
You're welcome
Tidal Gardens Inc.
Tidal Gardens Inc. - 8 years ago
Thanks!

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