Testing the AP700 for lighting an SPS dominant reef tank. | BRStv Investigates

In today's BRStv Investigates episode, we are putting the popular Kessil AP700 through the rigorous testing to see how it stacks up against being a model LED light for an SPS dominant saltwater reef aquarium. In this video, Ryan will share the PAR charts, spectrum, color blending ability and much more for the AP700! Check out the Kessil AP700 here! https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/ap700-led-lighting-panel-kessil.html Kessil has been producing LED lights for fresh and saltwater aquariums for quite some time now, and they have grabbed a foothold in the market with their Dense Matrix LED clusters and simple, refined control that just works. Kessil has a few different models of LED lights for reef tanks, and today we are going to take an in-depth look at the AP700. The AP700 looks very close to two Kessil A360We modules placed into a single fixture, but it is actually more. The AP700 now comes with electronic onboard control with simple touch buttons, along with WiFi control that you can use with most smart devices. Ryan and the crew put the Kessil AP700 through the rigorous testing procedures we have put all other LEDs through, and the AP700 was a great performer. Between the PAR output and the option to add diffusers over the optics make it an excellent lighting choice for any saltwater tank. Many reefers have been very successful with Kessil LED lights, and we believe a majority of that credit is due to Kessil Logic, which is their way of creating a perfectly blended spectrum no matter how you set the light. Today on BRStv, we have a brand new episode of our series, BRStv Investigates. In this series, we explore popular reefing theories, products, methods, and what the manuals are missing, with a focus on putting them to the test! If you liked this episode, and want to watch more, keep an eye out because we release new BRStv Investigates episodes every Friday. We have many more tests that we are currently running and then a bunch more that we want to complete. If you want us to investigate everything make sure to let us know in the comments below. *Legal Stuff* The purpose and content of this video is to provide general information regarding the products and their applications as presented in the video. Aquatic sales solutions, inc. And its officers, directors, employees and agents disclaim all express or implied warranties, in any way, related to the products and their application as presented in this video, make no representation or warranty regarding the products and the application as presented in this video and shall not be liable for any direct or indirect losses or damages of any type, including but not limited to punitive damages, or from personal injury or death resulting from or in any manner related to the video, and the products in and contents of the video. The viewer expressly agrees that aquatic sales solutions, inc. And its officers, directors, employees and agents shall not be liable for any damages or losses related to the products in and content of the video and hereby agrees to hold the foregoing harmless from any such losses or damages.

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In today's BRStv Investigates episode, we are putting the popular Kessil AP700 through the rigorous testing to see how it stacks up against being a model LED light for an SPS dominant saltwater reef aquarium. In this video, Ryan will share the PAR charts, spectrum, color blending ability and much more for the AP700! Check out the Kessil AP700 here! https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/ap700-led-lighting-panel-kessil.html Kessil has been producing LED lights for fresh and saltwater aquariums for quite some time now, and they have grabbed a foothold in the market with their Dense Matrix LED clusters and simple, refined control that just works. Kessil has a few different models of LED lights for reef tanks, and today we are going to take an in-depth look at the AP700. The AP700 looks very close to two Kessil A360We modules placed into a single fixture, but it is actually more. The AP700 now comes with electronic onboard control with simple touch buttons, along with WiFi control that you can use with most smart devices. Ryan and the crew put the Kessil AP700 through the rigorous testing procedures we have put all other LEDs through, and the AP700 was a great performer. Between the PAR output and the option to add diffusers over the optics make it an excellent lighting choice for any saltwater tank. Many reefers have been very successful with Kessil LED lights, and we believe a majority of that credit is due to Kessil Logic, which is their way of creating a perfectly blended spectrum no matter how you set the light. Today on BRStv, we have a brand new episode of our series, BRStv Investigates. In this series, we explore popular reefing theories, products, methods, and what the manuals are missing, with a focus on putting them to the test! If you liked this episode, and want to watch more, keep an eye out because we release new BRStv Investigates episodes every Friday. We have many more tests that we are currently running and then a bunch more that we want to complete. If you want us to investigate everything make sure to let us know in the comments below. *Legal Stuff* The purpose and content of this video is to provide general information regarding the products and their applications as presented in the video. Aquatic sales solutions, inc. And its officers, directors, employees and agents disclaim all express or implied warranties, in any way, related to the products and their application as presented in this video, make no representation or warranty regarding the products and the application as presented in this video and shall not be liable for any direct or indirect losses or damages of any type, including but not limited to punitive damages, or from personal injury or death resulting from or in any manner related to the video, and the products in and contents of the video. The viewer expressly agrees that aquatic sales solutions, inc. And its officers, directors, employees and agents shall not be liable for any damages or losses related to the products in and content of the video and hereby agrees to hold the foregoing harmless from any such losses or damages.

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for Testing the AP700 for lighting an SPS dominant reef tank. | BRStv Investigates

Nathan Gonzalez
Nathan Gonzalez - 6 years ago
So you wouldn't recommend this for a dominate sps tank?... I have a 36 gallon bow front tank and it's sps dominate with a few montis. I was wanting to get this light but now I'm having second thoughts
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 6 years ago
It's definitely a solid option for an SPS dominant tank, so much so that we've even used them on our BRS160. Check out this video where we explain how to use the AP700 for any tank type. https://youtu.be/UHtITV_QBrs
Retro Reefs
Retro Reefs - 6 years ago
Where these lights tested at 100%
Retro Reefs
Retro Reefs - 6 years ago
Scratch that found my answer
klarionc
klarionc - 6 years ago
par charts are the best! A80. are they out yet?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 6 years ago
Not yet, but we might explore them in the future.
Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards - 6 years ago
Just bought 2. Now I'm broke :(
bif24701
bif24701 - 6 years ago
Why not just come out and say that this is the best LED?
Marty Rich
Marty Rich - 6 years ago
This is love .
Joshua Mundy
Joshua Mundy - 6 years ago
Can you comment on why your PAR readings from testing approximately one year ago with the AP700 are significantly different than this latest result? Running an IM lagoon 50 LPS/softie, intensity recommendations would be great if you have experience.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 6 years ago
It could be a pretty fun thing to play around with. Unfortunately, we didn't test the PAR numbers for each individual channel, so it's tough to say what that specific intensity and spectrum will produce. It's usually best practice to start low and gradually make increases over time! :-)
Joshua Mundy
Joshua Mundy - 6 years ago
Thank you!!! You guys are truly amazing! If I were running only blues on an LPS and softie tank, would you increase the intensity? I’m going to try 40% all blue for a 50g 12” deep. What do you think?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 6 years ago
Sure! For the initial PAR testing we were using a different PAR meter, whereas for all of our PAR testing now, we use a high-end laboratory Li-Cor PAR meter. :-)
Matt Johnson
Matt Johnson - 6 years ago
Just ordered two AP700's for my Deep Blue 80 gallon frag. Thanks Ryan!
lukejo45
lukejo45 - 6 years ago
what intensity are you running on the AP700's on the BRS 160
Corbin Morris
Corbin Morris - 6 years ago
Was there a reason for the switch?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 6 years ago
We have since switched them for A360s, but when they were installed we only ran them at about 35% max intensity. Granted we had three of them as well as 4x-T5s!

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Zachary Schneider
Zachary Schneider - 6 years ago
Awesome video, I love my ap700 but do agree the app could still use some tweeking. Thank you Ryan's and brs for all you do!
Nathan Carter
Nathan Carter - 7 years ago
Ryan says in all these videos that they are using a 4ft 120 but the par graph says 40x20. So what is the dimensions of the larger tank being used to do the test?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Foot feet is the outside dimensions of the glass. We need to factor in the sensors and bracket. So front to back on each side the measurement is 2 inches from the outside of the tank. left to right it is 4 inches of the outside edge.
Daniel Garcia
Daniel Garcia - 7 years ago
Where are you guys running the intensity 100%
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Yep, for the testing on the 48" tank we were. :-)
Nick Fel
Nick Fel - 7 years ago
Hello! Great Vid as usual!
When exactly does the black friday sale start? Is it a week-long, presale or is it literally on black friday. Thanks!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Check out the site near the end of the week and watch for daily emails and videos! :-)
NYC Top corals
NYC Top corals - 7 years ago
i have radion G$ and kessil A360l! bottom line radions are way better than kessil.
NYC Top corals
NYC Top corals - 7 years ago
you guys should look into GHL LIghts the MITRA 7 something
Raven FPV1
Raven FPV1 - 7 years ago
New to saltwater and wondering why it took me so long. I missed out all those years.
trickyriky5540
trickyriky5540 - 7 years ago
Are you guys going to test reef breeder photon v2? I would really like to see these up against the radions. See how they stack up.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
We really wish we could test every light out there, but we just don't have the budget or bandwidth to get to all of them. :-)
William Linegar
William Linegar - 7 years ago
Thanks for this! I would like to know if 2 700’s are better than 4 360’s on the 120G?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Check out this video with PAR charts and info on the A360s! https://youtu.be/wavz8K63-Oc
Reef Keeper
Reef Keeper - 7 years ago
Great video and not boring.  The problem with this light is the SHADOWING in your corals - SPS especially.  If you want shadows inside and underneath your SPS - this is the light for you!  In fact, most LEDs would be a great choice if you want shadowing in your SPS corals.  You must order several more than what is recommended by the manufacturer in order to blanket your tank and avoid shading caused by LEDs.  I find that corals will grow on top, but not inside or underneath like they do with T5 or Metal Halide. That is one of the biggest problems with LEDs.

20. comment for Testing the AP700 for lighting an SPS dominant reef tank. | BRStv Investigates

Lava_sysT
Lava_sysT - 7 years ago
i'm planning to buy a red sea reefer 425xl. The tank is 47"x22". So i should install this ap700 on a 48" about the tank. Can i still have some sps with such height. And will i have loads of light around the tank to?
Lava_sysT
Lava_sysT - 7 years ago
What will be the best height if i go for a mixed reef and a little sps on the top of the rocks? the lower range covers only 36"x24", my tank will be 47"x22".
thanks!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
That is pretty high above the tank which would probably drive PAR levels fairly low and increase much of the light spillage into the surrounding room. I'd imagine that the PAR loss would probably be in the lower ranges of what SPS dominant tanks require.
TheDrakenZ
TheDrakenZ - 7 years ago
sps dominant reef, not dominate.
bob johnson
bob johnson - 7 years ago
This stuff is great, keep it up!!! By far the best YouTube channel for reefing out there!!!!! I'm still hoping to see you guys test the AI Hydra 52HD. You sell them so why not test them?
Carlos Pina
Carlos Pina - 6 years ago
Hopefully you guys didn't forget that the Hydra 52HDs are yet to be tested.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Although we're taking a short break We're definitely not done testing LEDs!
Rogue Snail
Rogue Snail - 7 years ago
As usual you guys put out the best content in reviews.
Why is there no good review of the high end Tunze 9415-9430-9480 DOC skimmers?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Hopefully we could do a video on those one day! :-)
ReefRealEstate In Canada
ReefRealEstate In Canada - 7 years ago
Are you running this test set at 100% intensity? If not what is the setting? A comment below stated that the controller is terrible, I agree a year ago but now the app is running flawless on my iPhone. I have 2 of these lights over my 270 gallon mixed reef. Love them so far. I have an apex and at first I was concerned that I could run these lights through it but it really isn’t needed. Just pull out your phone to tweak the light whenever. Super easy, the lunar cycle is great you can bring it down to 1% which is almost non existent. One thing I find is that it doesn’t cycle between the moon phases though, ie: when You start on 1/4 moon I don’t see it going to 1/2, 3/4, full, new, at all. Seems it just stays on whatever you set it at. My only issue with it.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
The PAR testing specifically on the 4ft tank was at 100% intensity. :-)
Hello There
Hello There - 7 years ago
You guys make some great videos.
henrywsnow
henrywsnow - 7 years ago
I only have a Petco near me for coral and marine fish. How can I tell if they take good care of fish and coral, and if they would be ok to purchase from?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Great answer by Martin! :-)
Martin Oldham
Martin Oldham - 7 years ago
henrywsnow talk to the employees that are in the fish department. If they know what they are talking about and you don’t find dead fish/coral you should be ok with purchasing. But as always you should quarantine fish and coral. If possible medicate fish and dip coral for several weeks. Setting up a couple of 10 gallon tanks with hang on filters are easy and inexpensive and saves you a whole lot of headaches and money.
Clayton Jessup
Clayton Jessup - 7 years ago
Would you say a single AP700 paired with a AquaticLife 4bulb T5 Hybrid would be a solid choice for a 4ft 75g Aquarium ?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
That's another great option especially since you can space out two separate fixtures independently of one another, versus being stuck with the AP700 and its fixed lenses. :-)
Clayton Jessup
Clayton Jessup - 7 years ago
BulkReefSupplyCom , thank you for the input . Do you feel kessil A360WE ‘s might be a better choice then the AP700. Like a pair of the A360we’s ? For my tank ?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
It would probably get it done pretty well, however your higher PAR demand corals may need to be more towards the center of the tank. :-)
Jeep Fish
Jeep Fish - 7 years ago
You should do a videos on a cheep led from amazon and just compare the differences between the better lighting options
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
We really wish we could test every light out there, but unfortunately it's just not in the budget or bandwidth at the time. :-)
A Ron
A Ron - 7 years ago
Tom Gionet
Tom Gionet - 7 years ago
I just ordered an Aquatic Life hybrid solution to replace my single LET t5 retrofit I have with my AP700. Currently running the AP700 @12"/75% with 2 blue plus. What mounting height and intensity were you running on the BRS 160? I'll be running 2 blue+ sandwiching 2 true actinic bulbs. 36x18x21 tank.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
They were mounted right about 8.5" from the water's surface.

30. comment for Testing the AP700 for lighting an SPS dominant reef tank. | BRStv Investigates

Kyl Aquaria
Kyl Aquaria - 7 years ago
Great light, garbage control-ability. At this point I'd take 0-10v control over their own controller / app.
prvtec4u
prvtec4u - 7 years ago
Need some nano love! Kessil A80
Mike B
Mike B - 7 years ago
Two comments: I held a Kessil A360WE above my tank with a 250W metal halide in a Lumenarc fixture and I couldn't even tell the Kessil was on. Really makes me wonder about how much light these really have vs. metal halides.

Second comment: Any reason why you don't test other brands of lights you sell? So far you basically have only tested Kessil, Ecotech and AI lights, except for that Orphek one which also happened to be an expensive light. I'm curious how the cheaper lights compare like MaxSpect, you have the Razor and the Ethereal lights currently, but I'm just curious if they're good enough for what they do, or if you really are getting what you pay for.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
We're definitely not done testing lights yet! We'll be back with more tests down the road! :-)
Tempest Space
Tempest Space - 7 years ago
What is the fish on the left called at 8:11 called
Tempest Space
Tempest Space - 7 years ago
Tyler's Reef yes that is thank you.
Tyler's Reef
Tyler's Reef - 7 years ago
I think you’re referring to the blotched Anthias. Very beautiful and expensive fish.
gord oland
gord oland - 7 years ago
Good test!
Bronxton
Bronxton - 7 years ago
Great light, but damn that price tag.
Channing Jordan
Channing Jordan - 7 years ago
Par numbers as sleep aids. No way! I just bought 2 AP700 form Brs cant wait to set my new 220 up and get these lights on it. Thanks for everything the team at BRS does for the reefing community . By the way I could use a third light for that size tank. lol
Rookie_Reefer
Rookie_Reefer - 7 years ago
Tom Gorski this hobby is expensive I don’t understand why your salty about the cost?
Channing Jordan
Channing Jordan - 7 years ago
Tom Gorski I was hoping to win the third one and I only paid $1400 for both lights with discounts. Yes it is nice to save my money and get what I want.
Tom Gorski
Tom Gorski - 7 years ago
Ahh sure why not just throw another $900 on there making it almost 3,000 dollars in just lighting. Sure wish I had your kind of money, must be nice.
Rookie_Reefer
Rookie_Reefer - 7 years ago
Channing Jordan I also just set up my 220 and I have 2 ap700’s on it and I think I’m going to add a third and also 2) 4ft 2 bulb T5’s with blue and purple bulbs. The 2 ap700’s work but I can see how a third is what my 6 foot long tank needs
9StickNate
9StickNate - 7 years ago
PAR numbers (and coffee) start my day. This light was deceptive to me. I always thought it would have a lot of shadowing because there were only 2 light sources. My local LFS setup a 90 cube with one of these. I was very impressed by the coverage, color and evenness of the light. I did a double-take; as it didn't look like it was illuminated by leds. The control-ability looks pretty impressive too.
Smartyfox511 Gaming
Smartyfox511 Gaming - 7 years ago
BRS TV is a god send for me to be able set up my tanks!
Christopher Jameson
Christopher Jameson - 7 years ago
Ryan, this stuff is not boring. It's the point of the series, the silent majority of your viewers appreciate this series.
Frank Cava
Frank Cava - 7 years ago
Another great video. I have been seriously thinking of getting one of these lights, but now that I know you cant use it with the spectral controller, which I already own, they are OUT! Until they make it compatible with their own controller, which it already logically should be, I don't want one. As the Tangerine Asshole would say: "Kessil AP700  not "compatible" with its own "controller". Sad!"
denierlexiese
denierlexiese - 7 years ago
We love your par charts!!
Speedy
Speedy - 7 years ago
BRS Tv the best in the industry
Johnny Ringo
Johnny Ringo - 7 years ago
Finally Thank you for the review i love my ap 700
michael coyle
michael coyle - 7 years ago
Just curious, why do you say you’re testing on a 4 foot tank but the par reading pages say the tank is 40x20 ?
michael coyle
michael coyle - 7 years ago
BulkReefSupplyCom got it. Thanks
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Foot feet is the outside dimensions of the glass. We need to factor in the sensors and bracket. So front to back on each side the measurement is 2 inches from the outside of the tank. left to right it is 4 inches of the outside edge.
Alex's Reef
Alex's Reef - 7 years ago
this was cool, already entered. good luck to everyone.
DJ's Reef
DJ's Reef - 7 years ago
I've been waiting for this one
Ivica Tomoski
Ivica Tomoski - 7 years ago
Awesome! Great job! Any chance on doing a video on the hydra fifty two hd?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
We are taking a short break from all of the LED testing videos, but we definitely are not done yet! :-)
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Hey, there's a great conversation about this LED happening now on Reef2Reef! Get over there and jump in!
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/par-charts-and-more-par-charts-for-the-kessil-ap700-led-brstv-investigates.336104/
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
We sure will get to more of these LED tests and lighting testing, however we are taking a short break from them to focus on other directions for BRStv Investigates. :-)
Arthur Asatrjan
Arthur Asatrjan - 7 years ago
So you guys won't be doing the hydra 26hd:(((. Guess I need to find a par meter
CARLOS CAMARA
CARLOS CAMARA - 7 years ago
BulkReefSupplyCom zoo thank you

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