Week 26: How to leverage bacteria for a cleaner reef tank | 52 Weeks of Reefing #BRS160

http://brs.li/BRS160_Week26 It's Week 26, and we've officially hit the halfway mark in the 52 weeks of Reefing series! This week we are going to explore how organic filtration can reduce nutrients like phosphate and nitrate in the reef tank. More or less, this all revolves around using bacteria to process these nutrients for you. We are going to talk about the theory as well as pros and cons of marine pure and live rock, vodka dosing, bio pellets, nitrate reactors, commercial additives, and systems like Zeovit. Do you have a favorite method of organic filtration? Let us know your favorite in the comments area below! *Legal Stuff* The purpose and content of this video is to provide general information regarding the products and their applications as presented in the video. Aquatic sales solutions, inc. And its officers, directors, employees and agents disclaim all express or implied warranties, in any way, related to the products and their application as presented in this video, make no representation or warranty regarding the products and the application as presented in this video and shall not be liable for any direct or indirect losses or damages of any type, including but not limited to punitive damages, or from personal injury or death resulting from or in any manner related to the video, and the products in and contents of the video. The viewer expressly agrees that aquatic sales solutions, inc. And its officers, directors, employees and agents shall not be liable for any damages or losses related to the products in and content of the video and hereby agrees to hold the foregoing harmless from any such losses or damages

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http://brs.li/BRS160_Week26 It's Week 26, and we've officially hit the halfway mark in the 52 weeks of Reefing series! This week we are going to explore how organic filtration can reduce nutrients like phosphate and nitrate in the reef tank. More or less, this all revolves around using bacteria to process these nutrients for you. We are going to talk about the theory as well as pros and cons of marine pure and live rock, vodka dosing, bio pellets, nitrate reactors, commercial additives, and systems like Zeovit. Do you have a favorite method of organic filtration? Let us know your favorite in the comments area below! *Legal Stuff* The purpose and content of this video is to provide general information regarding the products and their applications as presented in the video. Aquatic sales solutions, inc. And its officers, directors, employees and agents disclaim all express or implied warranties, in any way, related to the products and their application as presented in this video, make no representation or warranty regarding the products and the application as presented in this video and shall not be liable for any direct or indirect losses or damages of any type, including but not limited to punitive damages, or from personal injury or death resulting from or in any manner related to the video, and the products in and contents of the video. The viewer expressly agrees that aquatic sales solutions, inc. And its officers, directors, employees and agents shall not be liable for any damages or losses related to the products in and content of the video and hereby agrees to hold the foregoing harmless from any such losses or damages

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for Week 26: How to leverage bacteria for a cleaner reef tank | 52 Weeks of Reefing #BRS160

InventionsThatHelp
InventionsThatHelp - 6 years ago
14:58 bacteriaaaarrrr!!!
michal makarewicz
michal makarewicz - 6 years ago
can you please make a video dedicated to zeovit system , install and more info on it plese
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 6 years ago
It's on the horizon! ;-) Stay tuned!
TodaOne, CC, Dad Mom
TodaOne, CC, Dad Mom - 7 years ago
Is there a test u can run.. To see the levels to see if you need more bio pellets? So yo dont over dose
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
I'm not aware of any specific test, however from many reefer's experience nitrates should be a barometer as to the dosage amount.
James Weil
James Weil - 7 years ago
You said in 2015 you were going to do an in-depth YouTube on zeovit and I have not yet seen it are you still planning on doing it
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
I do believe we have a "Spotlight" video slated for the Zeovit system coming later this quarter. :-)
Fraysreef
Fraysreef - 7 years ago
7 weeks into zeovit method nitrates risen to 40ppm I wish I never tried this method, and no room in the sps growout for the fish to be house its a sad day for reefing.
ussj4brolli
ussj4brolli - 7 years ago
Ive used No3Po4X on my current systems. I now have "Live ocean rock" coming for my nano 24G tomorrow, and my No3Po4X i ordered from you should arrive this week too. Can and should i use NoPox immediately during the cycle? My skimmer is rated for 220G.. just had it laying around so why not use it.
No3Po4X - BioSpora - Skimmer. All immediately or wait?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Hey there! I would say that No3PO4x isn’t really necessary unless you have an active issue with keeping nutrients down. The live rock should already have a beneficial bacterial colony within thier pores, so BioSpira may also be unnecessary, but not harmful in any way. As far as the overly large skimmer, here’s a video we did on skimmer sizes. :-)
https://youtu.be/tmFu1fc1DKc
Fraysreef
Fraysreef - 7 years ago
Hi BRS team I need some quick advice my zero reactor has gone offline, would you recommend I just bag the zeolite and agitate daily until I can purchase a new reactor? [feed pump failed causing the agitator to jam] fairly new system extremely low bioload currently.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Oh no! Yeah, I'd say that would be your best bet and try to put the bag in a high flow area, since it doesn't have a feed pump like your reactor. :-)
shawnriv9
shawnriv9 - 7 years ago
Have you guys made the entire episode devoted to ZeoVit yet? I am very interested in learning more and thinking of converting my low nutrient tank to ZeoVit or beginning a new tank.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Not yet, but it's on the long-term video to-do list! :-)
Twisted Tailfins Aquatics, Inc
Twisted Tailfins Aquatics, Inc - 7 years ago
If using the Zeovit system would it help or hurt using Media Pure I have a 700 gallon coral pool i'm getting ready to build and I was thinking about the Zeovit system and I was planning on using a lot of Media Pure since I won't have live rock in the pool.
thoughts on this?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
If you aren't going to have any sort of substrate or rock in the system, then I would say that Marine Pure would be a great idea to provide surface area for the beneficial bacteria to grow and colonize on! :-)

10. comment for Week 26: How to leverage bacteria for a cleaner reef tank | 52 Weeks of Reefing #BRS160

Jay-D
Jay-D - 7 years ago
I'm thinking of sugar dosing my nano. I have a sump with tons of marine pure. I dose kalk to keep up the pH with a diy auto top off. Can I add the sugar to the ato along with kalk?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Hey there! There's definitely quite a few methods to carbon dosing, like with sugar, and ways to implement them into the tank. I can't say that I've heard of someone adding it to Kalk and dosing via the ATO, but it may be possible. I would browse the reef hobbyist forums like Reef2Reef.com or ReefCentral.com to see what thousands of fellow reefers are doing about dosing sugar to their tanks! :-)
AlphaWolf- Gaming
AlphaWolf- Gaming - 7 years ago
Can I use a nitrate reactor in freshwater?
Zsa Zsa Umbra
Zsa Zsa Umbra - 7 years ago
I have 2 freshwater and 1 tropical freshwater tank and have found that nearly everything used for saltwater can be tweaked to freshwater.
AlphaWolf- Gaming
AlphaWolf- Gaming - 7 years ago
BulkReefSupplyCom thx
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Hmm... It may work, but I would recommend browsing some freshwater specific forums and groups to see if they are cross compatible from saltwater to freshwater. :-)
Fi' amanillah
Fi' amanillah - 7 years ago
Can BRS review the ocean free Hydra stream 3?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
I'm not sure if we have plans to bring this product in, so I couldn't guarantee that we would get a chance to test it out and make a video. :-)
gflinski
gflinski - 7 years ago
This guy and this channel is awesome. Such good information.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Awesome! Thanks for watching! :-)
Rich S
Rich S - 7 years ago
nice video buddy. it's hard to find review videos and people like yourself speaking about zeovit. I just ordered this system and I'm trying to learn as much about it as I can. information is definitely scarce. keep up the updates! thanks.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Will do! Thanks! :-)
hansi98
hansi98 - 7 years ago
will the pores in the stones get clogged over time and not let water through anymore so that i have to replace them?
hansi98
hansi98 - 7 years ago
thank you
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
There is a possibility that the pores on these media types can clog with detritus and other particles. Although it may not be detrimental to the beneficial bacteria colony, I still recommend a maintenance schedule to clean them out. This can quickly and easily be done during a waterchange. I like to remove my ceramic media plates and give them a shake in a bucket of old tank water. You can quickly knock off built up detritus without harming the bacterial colony. :-)
Chris Crigger
Chris Crigger - 7 years ago
Would you have turned off the uv sterilizer if you decided to liquid carbon dose. Like vodka, or nopox?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Not necessarily. Since there is no concern for sterilizing anything "live" within the carbon dosing source and since the majority of beneficial bacteria live on the surface areas of the rock and sand, there isn't much cause for concern about leaving the sterilizer off. :-)
Manny Santana
Manny Santana - 7 years ago
dang you guys are so awesome with defining of both systems and let me just say ive been using the 4 pack trial size related to Zeo-vit system and let me just say it is amazingly given proven results. with in 24hrs all my polyps where fully extended nickle size i was in woooow mode for months..... and still cant imagine ive been with out. so im planning on buying the whold zeo-vit system but all this is expensive for me since im not recently working due to a shoulder cuff injury which only pays minimum wage. so i have to sell some stuff probly n save for 2-3 months but i hope to get it sooner.... any discounts or sales happening soon to be ready for? please let me know. thanks guys for your great help and knowledge. fyi, i seen this Zeo-vit product about 5 yrs back with this guy in Europe who i was speaking to but because of tge language barrier i only knee so much, he was being very helpful about the whole synthetic reefing community and also trying to let me know what others where doing and experiencing but like i said thr language was an issue. Eventually we stop talking anx now just hi great tank, thanks your looks better. hkm n i speaking tgat little. but he did teach me much about synthetic reefing and the zeo-vit system.
Manny Santana
Manny Santana - 7 years ago
Awesome cant wait....
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Thanks for the shout out! We have some sales up our sleeves and we do a Group Buy every month! :-)
Tristan G
Tristan G - 7 years ago
will you guys ever start shipping to Australia? I think there would be a huge market for yous if you did
Vince Lok
Vince Lok - 7 years ago
I love the fact that at the beginning of the video, our host says the most truthfull thing ever ... that we have no idea what's actually going on, but we're guessing and we're working off the experience of the collective reefing community.

20. comment for Week 26: How to leverage bacteria for a cleaner reef tank | 52 Weeks of Reefing #BRS160

kurt grant
kurt grant - 7 years ago
can you guys do a follow up on the zeovit sys i want to do it but im on the fence about it thanks
Brandon Clark
Brandon Clark - 7 years ago
almost 6mo into zeovit, started from a fresh tank, now I'm having troubles combating cyano. if you can help, please tag me or send me a personal message. I am on the zeovit forum and the suggestions others have made have not shown improvements. thanks guys!
Brandon Clark
Brandon Clark - 7 years ago
Yes media only in for 5 weeks
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
I know you are probably on top of it, but I need to ask. Has your media been changed recently?
Brandon Clark
Brandon Clark - 7 years ago
There is hardly any on the rocks, and it gets sucked out when I do water change. I have two MP40'S in my 120g.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Are you blowing it off the rocks by hand as well? Just out of curiosity, what does the flow in your tank look like?
Brandon Clark
Brandon Clark - 7 years ago
Yes @bulkreefsupplycom, I dosed 10 drops of cyanocobalamin clean and 10ml of coral snow for over two weeks and the cyano did get worse or better. I even did lights of for 4 days, helped but came back. Ro/di is checked and still at 000, and I continue to do water changes. I'm running out of options.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Have you tried using the Cyano Clean product and Coral Snow?
eric v
eric v - 7 years ago
all in one bio pellets does they work good ive got the premium and the one you have in combination for a few weeks nitrates 1 Salifert and phosp. are 0.1/0.06 Colombo bleu looks almost the same and min reach is 0.03 next month to Hanna checker(can't buy anything at bfs because i live in the Netherlands where Philips is started)
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Yup, we have had pretty good luck with them before:)
Raees Usman
Raees Usman - 7 years ago
My nitrates are constant at 25ppm and all my SPS are doing good. I want to start dosing NOPOX but I know stability it key for SPS. So, shall I try decreasing my nitrates to about 5ppm and start dosing NOPOX or just leave it alone and not disturb the stability?
Manny Santana
Manny Santana - 7 years ago
Raees Usman yes very CORRECT, never mess with what is working even if all is happy, corals seem fine fish too then just keep a close eye. i still would test minimum 4 to 5 cosecutive weekd to make sure nothing goes too high or low.
the only time you do changes is when parameters are way high, fish possibly die and coraks too. then you do a 30 to 45% water change with clean 0 TDS RODI WATER. I say it like that because many think that just because its RODI its perfect water, guess what WRONG still test water with TDS meter to make sure its great water. so back to water change, do that water chenge wait min. 2to3 hrs then test water in tank and see what thd effects have been. if numbers dropped them good your on right track to fixing issues. wait at least 4 days before doing another water changd as this can cause your bio in your tank another issue. then do another 25 to 30% water change wait 1 day and test water and their after once a week with 15% water change until water parameters are close of back to normal. as you do this keep close eye watch for stress on fish and corals, if you see this happen what ive done is keep lights on 5 to 6 hrs a day and if see if that help with stress if dont test water see what parameters are and if no change in numbers then look at your equipment make sure skimmer is doing its job, return pump is turning your water minimum 7x per hour for water circulation and cleaning affect through sump. add probly gfo & carbon media from BRS. also bio-pallets for denitrate water... well hope that helps.... look at all these BRS Vids for good informational help and what not to do. good luck.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Doing a series of small water changes will likely get you there slowly, but honestly if the corals look great, there's not excess algae, and they are growing I would just keep doing what you're doing.
rebeldeasupoder92
rebeldeasupoder92 - 7 years ago
can the zeovit media be "re-cycle"? any other use after it is replaced?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Hmmm, not that I'm aware of.
Stijn Taelman
Stijn Taelman - 7 years ago
BRS: can you tell me how exactly you cycled the tank (no live rock) using the zeovit system? I ask because the zeovit guide specifies a preference to using live rock (they mention a 2 week period for cycling). what are your general experiences with the system, after using it for some time now?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
We followed the Zeo Guide, but we did use the Reefrock 2.1 dry rock instead of live rock. So far, we have been SUPER impressed with the system. Nitrate and phosphate are very easy to control, and the corals look great.
TheDrakenZ
TheDrakenZ - 7 years ago
Great videos, very knowledgeable and thorough explanation.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Thanks, glad to hear you liked it!
sagrath1982
sagrath1982 - 7 years ago
what about lava rock?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
It has potential, but it lacks the ability to naturally buffer the water and doesn't look as natural in my opinion in the tank.
David P
David P - 7 years ago
great video! have you guys thought about a side by side challenge Biopellets vs Zeovit vs Vodka?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Good suggestion! We are actually in the process of setting up some more test tanks. Something like this is a great candidate!
Franklin Michael
Franklin Michael - 8 years ago
If the carbon is used by the bacteria then would it be a good thing to add during the cycling process to feed the bacteria and help them populate the tank faster? And can you feed the corals with phytoplankton and plankton instead of using zeofood?
Franklin Michael
Franklin Michael - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom Cool thanks.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
You could, but in most circumstances carbon dosing is used as a method of enhancing phosphate and nitrate processing by bacteria. When a tank is cycling, it's not as important since there is an excess of nitrate and phosphate in a majority of cases. Zeofood is a little different compared to planktonic foods since it is an amino acid and vitamin supplement that is utilized by the coral, where planktonic foods are particulate matter that your corals will ingest. You could dose both if you wanted to :)

30. comment for Week 26: How to leverage bacteria for a cleaner reef tank | 52 Weeks of Reefing #BRS160

Troll Doll
Troll Doll - 8 years ago
Reef saver sucks man
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
It has its advantages, even if the porosity isn't the absolute best. :)
Lazarus Vintage
Lazarus Vintage - 8 years ago
I m interest in running zeovit system, since achieving low nutrient environment, is refungium will be pointless to run? Due to not able to provide to feed the macroalgae/chaeto etc?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
I have the perfect video for you. Check this out:

https://youtu.be/-AcAuqlBckE
Shaun Garfinkel
Shaun Garfinkel - 8 years ago
I was just wondering if you guys where gonna make the video fully on zeovit that you mentioned in this video?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
Yup, we will be in the future! It's in the plans :)
J Nav
J Nav - 8 years ago
ZeoVit sounds like the crossfit of reef tanking
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
lol
Raees Usman
Raees Usman - 8 years ago
Can you do a full video series on zeovit please?
Lisa DiMercurio
Lisa DiMercurio - 7 years ago
so are you saying to not dose zeo if I have zoas, mushrooms and LPS?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Good call! It certainly could be beneficial. That said we don't shake our media over the weekend.


To me that looks like a thick coating of Ich. Velvet has a more golden tint to it.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Zeo is mainly an SPS focused system. It might make it difficult to keep zoas, softies, and some LPS. We haven't shot the video yet, but it is on our radar :)
Dr. Loaf's Salty Box
Dr. Loaf's Salty Box - 7 years ago
Has this happened yet im really interested in going zeo on my system and would love BRS video to help me decide. what is zeo like with lps and softies does it restrict the growth?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
We are planning on one in the future :)
Kenny Anderson
Kenny Anderson - 8 years ago
sounds like a never ending cycle of adding more things to your tank. Better off with a solid water change schedule and stick to proven theories. When you have over a $1000 of live stock in an aquarium you want to play on the safe side.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
I can see where you are coming from. That being said we have had some really impressive results so far from Zeovit, and there is a pretty large group of reefers that run it that have had similar results.
William Cowley
William Cowley - 8 years ago
How do you dose zeo chemicals and pump the system at the weekend
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 7 years ago
Honestly we don't. The tank goes without it for two days.
Lazarus Vintage
Lazarus Vintage - 8 years ago
I got the gfo/carbon kit from u guys and the pump recommend, I have limited space, can I covert the gfo side into all in one bio pellet, and carbon on the next one like it was before?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
Unfortunately no, the flow rates required between the two are drastically different. You won't be able to get the proper tumble rate with the biopellets.
The Fish Guy
The Fish Guy - 8 years ago
maybe they could make marine pure live rock for the display tank
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
Yup, that is it. MarinePure Rock - the second product in that link I sent in the last comment.
The Fish Guy
The Fish Guy - 8 years ago
I mean like rock for aquascaping
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
The Fish Guy
The Fish Guy - 8 years ago
Do you have a link
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
They actually do have that!
Wesley Knutsen
Wesley Knutsen - 8 years ago
WHat kind of reactor would you want to use with a nuvo fusion 20 for zeovit? Would the Innovative marine reactor work with it?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
For a nano tank you will be hard pressed to find a solution that is off the shelf. Your best bet would be to either modify a reactor (like the IM) or to simply run the media in a filter sock. Check this video out:

https://youtu.be/WNyeGepppEs
Brandan Bowen
Brandan Bowen - 8 years ago
Did you leave in the Marine Pure Blocks after selecting ZeoVit?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
Nope, we removed them. We were concerned about them potentially interfering with the Zeo system.
tdub18914
tdub18914 - 8 years ago
Still planning a Zeovit-specific video?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
It's in the plans.
Ciaran Lesikar
Ciaran Lesikar - 8 years ago
If you could only use one; this reactor or a refugium, which would you recommend for a new Red Sea max s 500 in the sump?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
No problem Ciaran, anytime!
Ciaran Lesikar
Ciaran Lesikar - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom thank you!! Food for thought... Like everything about reef aquariums, a lot of right answers and plenty of wrong combinations of right answers. Seems to be part of what adds interest to the hobby. Appreciate your responsiveness.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
Gotcha! If you have the time to dedicate to researching and setting up the Zeovit system, and plan on keeping mainly SPS I would gravitate towards that. Otherwise a refugium is a great choice as well.
Ciaran Lesikar
Ciaran Lesikar - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom sorry, referring to low nutrient system, zeovit or similar with auto shake function
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
Which reactor specifically?
Tacomaguy458
Tacomaguy458 - 8 years ago
I have a question.... After battling the nitrates in my 40b I sorta threw in the towel. I was hovering at around 40-80 nitrates and no matter how big of a water change I did they would be back high again. I recently hooked up 3 phosban reactors. I with carbon, 1 with Rowaphos, and 1 with the brightwell Xport No3. I did a 50% water change which got the nitrates down to around 20-30. My question is, how long does will it take to start reducing the nitrates and how much flow should I be running? It says on brightwells website that you want 1-3x tank turnover but my LFS said to have it as low as possible ( which makes sense as you were talking about a low oxygen environment for the bacteria to colonize ). I have it set as just a small but steady stream coming from the reactor. It has been running for about a week with no noticeable drop. I've seen reviews saying it takes weeks to work and others that say it was just a couple days. I put more in the reactor than what was recommended as I would like the nitrates to be low and I can remove and adjust the media as needed. My bioload is super low with only a pair of clowns, a couple shrimp, and my cleanup crew. My feedings are light but I mainly feed new life spectum pellet with the occasional cube of frozen mysis.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
Ok, cool! Personally I would recommend the 1-3x flow rate they recommend, this will help pass an appreciable volume of your tanks water through the reactor each hour. Otherwise your setup seems sound. Once those anaerobic bacteria start to colonize the inside of that media you'll start to see your nitrates drop.
AMERICAN BIRD
AMERICAN BIRD - 8 years ago
What's the tank at 1:10
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
That's a 60 gallon cube (24" x 24" x 24")
Jacob Smith
Jacob Smith - 8 years ago
I just noticed zeovit added a "Coral System" did they listen to you? Please tell me more about this. I am very interested in cutting out fifty million blue bottles out of my life. :D is it better to add this or the little blue bottles? will you be using this in the 160?
Jacob Smith
Jacob Smith - 8 years ago
I am currently running the same zeovit system as the 160. would this system replace or simplify the color and health additives "parts" of zeovit?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
This system is designed to operate independently of the Zeovit system. It's for folks that don't want to run the Zeovit system and is essentially a coral supplementation additive package. No reactors, zeovit, or other parts of the full system needed, but it also won't offer the exact same benefits that the full system offers, especially regarding nitrate and phosphate.
Daniel Donnelly
Daniel Donnelly - 8 years ago
how do you cut the marien pure blocks?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
We used a hack saw. A tile saw would do a great job as well.
NorCalDubber
NorCalDubber - 8 years ago
What's you recommended way for adding carbon in nano tanks?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+NorCalDubber Oh, I gotcha. You are looking to filter with activated carbon. In that case I would throw some high quality carbon in a fine micron mesh media bag and submerge it in your filtration chamber if you have an all-in-one tank.
NorCalDubber
NorCalDubber - 8 years ago
Would chemi pure blue work?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+NorCalDubber With nano tanks carbon dosing can be tricky. I would look into something like the Red Sea NO3PO4X
Tim Kotanko
Tim Kotanko - 8 years ago
Looking forward to the Zeovit dedicated video!! Or did I miss it? ?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Tim Kotanko We'll be covering some more of the system during our Maintenance video :)
Inappropriate Reefer
Inappropriate Reefer - 8 years ago
Amazing amount of information

50. comment for Week 26: How to leverage bacteria for a cleaner reef tank | 52 Weeks of Reefing #BRS160

Jake Carpenter
Jake Carpenter - 8 years ago
I feel like my brain was just pumped full and about to explode. I just bought a phosphate reactor because videos were saying they were the best thing ever. Now I'm seeing this "Zeovit" stuff. I feel like I'm just throwing my money in every direction. Is there solid good way besides the water changes, to get phosphates down?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Jake Carpenter They do somewhat similar things. Skimmers remove organic material before it breaks down into ions like phosphate and nitrate. GFO removes phosphate as a compound, but won't touch organic material.
Jake Carpenter
Jake Carpenter - 8 years ago
I thought protein skimmers and GFO reactors did different things.  I just got the Poly Reactor.  However, the pump it comes with isn't strong enough to pump through the reactor.  That or my reactor has too much GFO in it.  I filled itr 1/4 with GFO. 
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Jake Carpenter We are testing one here in the office actually and it's pretty cool so far! A lot of folks swear by them, but honestly I still am preferential towards skimmers.
Jake Carpenter
Jake Carpenter - 8 years ago
LOL I love your honesty.  My local fish store is really trying to get me to buy an algae scrubber.  What are your thoughts?  Can you do a video on these?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Jake Carpenter Bwahahaha. That's gotta be it!
Jake Carpenter
Jake Carpenter - 8 years ago
Thank you so much.  I hope this phosphate reactor does the trick.  I just never figured out how people can get a tank with ZERO algae.  I mean I do the water changes and everything.  But I never had a tank that had ZERO algae.  Sometimes I wonder if some secrete society or reefers have some magical packed with the devil to get those perfect looking tanks LOL!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Jake Carpenter My favorite way is GFO. Zeovit is super awesome, but you need to be highly dedicated to it and for a lot of folks it can be difficult.
lil Trajan
lil Trajan - 8 years ago
why couldn't you use sand?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Thriller1982 Do you mean a deeper sand bed? Generally the Zeovit system calls for 1-2 inches of sand.
The House that Jack Built
The House that Jack Built - 8 years ago
I use vodka but my maroon clown now speaks Russian and bought a Kalashnikov.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+The House that Jack Built haha!
Videogameguy909
Videogameguy909 - 8 years ago
Question: WILL THEY TRY TO STEAL ME FORMULA?
FishOfHex
FishOfHex - 8 years ago
I love the marine pure blocks! I have been using Bio Pellets for about a year now and i love them the only problem i have had is regardless if you are skimming the water coming from the reactor you still end up getting bacteria build up in pumps. I have to clean out the main pump every three months or the pump will stop working. Great video.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+FishOfHex Interesting! Thanks for sharing. :)
conduit64
conduit64 - 8 years ago
I have just one question after watching this video, do Bacteria prefer their organic carbon shaken or stirred?
eric85855
eric85855 - 8 years ago
I've had issues with bubble tip anemones reacting poorly to Red Sea No3 po4 at 1ml per day on my 54 gallon tank. Do you think they might tolerate bio pellets better than carbon dosing?
eric85855
eric85855 - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom Shrinking and moving around the tank. Then eventually unable to attach and dying.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+eric85855 It possible, what exactly was their reaction?
Joe Isola
Joe Isola - 8 years ago
What tank is that at 3:09? Love that aquascape
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Joe Isola That is an Elos 70 gallon :)
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Joe Isola That is an Elos 70 gallon :)
Alex Kingcole
Alex Kingcole - 8 years ago
When is Triton coming to BRS?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Alex Kingcole We've been looking into it a bit. :)
Vlad-Andrei Lazar
Vlad-Andrei Lazar - 8 years ago
Any reason why dosing Flourish Excel would not work ? :)
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Vlad-Andrei Lazar If I remember right there may be some trace elements in there as well that might not be desirable in a reef. I would take a look at this instead:

http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/neonitro-balanced-nitrogen-supplement-brightwell-aquatics.html
Daniel Schultz
Daniel Schultz - 8 years ago
Is there a Zeovit Reactor that can fit into a Nuvo tank?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Daniel Schultz Not that I'm aware of unfortunately.
Rob Bradley
Rob Bradley - 8 years ago
I appreciate the fact that you guys/gals don't sell vinegar and vodka (which along with a good skimmer is all you need to get to an "ultra low nutrient system"), and you need to make a profit. I am just really bummed to see you push the snake oil that is the zeovit system.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Rob Bradley I think a lot of people feel this way, I know I did at one point and so did many members of the staff. However if you look at reefers who run vodka viniger or sugar some have success , some don't and there is an enormous amount of guessing as to why that is , how much to use , how often , additional additives various reefers use and a whole slew of unknowns. I just feel that is not responsible to promote the use of something like this where so many reefers struggle, even really advanced reefers who are largely responsible for much of what I know about the hobby and there is no clear answer as to why.


Zeovit on the other hand almost everyone I know that has tried it swears by it and I have personally seen way to much success to doubt it at this point. Exspensive with a lot of unknowns yes, snake oil I don't think I agree .


End of the day you will get to see the results for yourself and make your own judgment :)
Andrew Lucfr
Andrew Lucfr - 8 years ago
Prodibio Bioclean all the way. Dose every 15 days.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Andrew Lucfr Nice!
Andrew Lucfr
Andrew Lucfr - 8 years ago
Yes. running it whole system. Dropped my Nitrates from 25ppm to 5ppm and PO4 from 1ppm to 0.1ppm in 2 months. Now my NO3 is at 2ppm and po4 at 0.03ppm, steadily. Love this product!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Andrew Lucfr Nice! Do you run the whole system?
Fred Garcia
Fred Garcia - 8 years ago
How'd you guys get that KZ Activated Carbon?!?! It's been out of stock on the site for weeks!!!! Someone's holding out :)
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Fred Garcia Had to borrow a bag from one of our Zeovit running CS agents :)
Eldridge Henry, II
Eldridge Henry, II - 8 years ago
so instead of a refugium use the BRS Ceramic Biomedia Plate?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Eldridge Henry, II You certainly could, but a refugium also offers other benefits that the MarinePure media doesn't like pH stabilization and shelter for micro fauna. You could even run both!
ElementL116
ElementL116 - 8 years ago
I currently dose Zeostart 3 to my SPS dominant system. I do not use the Zeovit stones or any other Zeovit product. My tank runs very low to no P04 and N03 thanks in part partially to the Zeostart 3 I believe along with an awesome skimmer (Bubble King 300 Deluxe External) and good husbandry. I've always been tempted to try the Red Sea program as it's very logical to follow, comprehensive and not exorbitantly expensive like the Zeovit system when you get into all the extra additives. Question I have is how receptive the Red Sea program is to integrating the N03 P04 reducer, Reef Energy A&B and coloration enhancers into a system which utilizes the BRS 2 part currently. Presumably, I would wean off the Zeostart 3 and slowly introduce the Red Sea N03 P04, but I wonder how straightforward it would be to integrate the Reef Energy A&B and coloration enhancers without using the Red Sea Foundation Elements A, B and C. Reason for that is I my dosing units are well calibrated for the BRS 2 part and I would not want to recal for the Red Sea Foundation Elements if unnecessary. In addition, I'm under the impression that the BRS 2 part is much more economical over time and I really don't know if there is any benefit of the Red Sea product vs the BRS 2 part. Appreciate your insight. Thanks again for the great series - I just finished watching all of them over the last few days and it's hands down the best guide to reefing that I've ever seen produced without a doubt.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+ElementL116 Yup, exactly! Another option would be to test your tank for calcium at the same time a few nights in a row and average out the results.
ElementL116
ElementL116 - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom So, if I maintain my Ca at say 420 ppm, I would dose based on 420 ppm? Or would I dose off how much I add on a daily basis to achieve that reading of 420 ppm? I was thinking the latter which is why I'm unsure how to gauge that. I mix the BRS 2 part per instructions and then use a dosing pump to add equal amounts throughout the day to regulate Ca, Alk, Mg. I do regularly calibrate the pumps as I've found they can drift. That being said, I can accurately gauge how much 2 part I add daily to maintain my given Ca, Alk and Mg levels. So, do I take my system's water volume, my daily dose of 2 part in ml and then use the reef calculator to determine how many ppm I'm effectively adding to my tank daily to maintain the 420 ppm reading? Thanks again for the feedback.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+ElementL116 I can't speak for the Red Sea Foundation supplements simply because I don't know, but our concentrations are likely different. That said it's based off of ppm consumed by corals so the supplement concentrations shouldn't have an effect.
ElementL116
ElementL116 - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom By the way, how does the calcium concentration in the BRS 2 part compare to the Red Sea formulation? Is it 1 for 1 or are the dilutions different?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+ElementL116 No problem :P
ElementL116
ElementL116 - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom Excellent. Thanks for the reply. Looking forward to giving it a shot.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+ElementL116 Good question! Luckily the dosing schedules of the Red Sea Color and Energy additives are based off of calcium consumed in PPM. So for example you dose x amount for x amount of calcium consumed that day in ppm.
Daemiex
Daemiex - 8 years ago
you have used live sand in the brs160 and zeovit tell you specificly not to use live sand, ive just stopped using zeovit myself, a year in of expensive products etc and im not seeing anything different to results ive had in the past with a well maintained berlin system, you have to be careful with it too, if you dose certain products too early or in excess then you cause issues with algae etc you cant just follow the recommended on the bottle you have to work it out for yourself depending on your system and this can cost money 1 in loss of corals and 2 a waste of product. and if you dose them too late and the ultra low nutrient part of it takes a hold it just starves out your corals which some can turn around from but usualy you will find lps will die inevitably, if you read the forums too the constant un winnable battle with brown algae drives users mad, if you have deep pockets you are very patient and can be super hands on with your system and dont take it heart fighting algae and loosing corals then id say have ago at zeovit, otherwise stick to a normal system, ive seen enough systems with amazing sps etc that dosent use zeovit or anything else
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Daemiex You make a good point about the sand. There are a few things with the system that aren't recommended, however we haven't noticed much of a difference before on our previous zeo tanks. This system definitely requires trial and error and tweaking to get it just where you want it :)
Nick Ward
Nick Ward - 8 years ago
Yo Ryan....how long before the corals go in a the zeovit dude ? any ideas ? my tanks Coming in 3 month and want to run Z
Nick Ward
Nick Ward - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Nick Ward Corals around 6 weeks out yet :)
Brandon nikel
Brandon nikel - 8 years ago
Last question I have for you I promise! I am starting a new tank, and it just finished cycling about a week ago. When should I start using zeovit? I don't know if now is a good time or if I need to wait until the tank matures?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Brandon nikel KZ does recommend not using live sand, however in our experience it really hasn't made an appreciable difference. You should be fine :)
Brandon nikel
Brandon nikel - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom Thanks guys I really appreciate it! The only thing I am concerned about is I ordered my zeovit starter package, but it seems they discourage the use of live sand. I used the same Carib Sea special grain reef sand you used in the 160. I hope it isnt a big issue, I read it can cause a cyano outbreak if live sand is used? I am not sure how accurate this is.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Brandon nikel This is how KZ recommends starting the Zeovit system. You have a little bit of a head start, but it still should work for you:

http://www.korallen-zucht.de/pages-en/service/initial-cycle-just-14-days.html
Drew
Drew - 8 years ago
The zeovit system also advocates the use of venturi style skimmers instead of needle wheel. I'm just curious why you followed the system so closely when it came to the type and method of running carbon filter media but not with the method of skimming.
Drew
Drew - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom Will you guys be using Reefer's Best salt mix for this tank?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Drew Lehinger Nothing off the top of my head really except that ROX .8 may be too aggressive of a carbon to run with the Zeo system.
Drew
Drew - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom Ok, that's good to know. Are you aware of any issues that might arise from using the BRS brand of GAC in a filter sock instead of their brand?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Drew Lehinger Korallen-Zucht recommends beckett style skimmers, however they also highlight that needle wheel or pinwheel style skimmers can be used, just in a different way. Personally, we've always used the needle wheel skimmers before with pretty good results, but I can see where you are coming from :P
Alex Bautista
Alex Bautista - 8 years ago
so if im using the zeovit system i shouldnt be running my protein skimmer, carbon and gfo in reactors?
also do you think 95psi from my aquatec 8800 to my 4 stage ro/di system is too much? should i reduce it?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Alex Bautista When running the full blown zeovit system, it's recommended to run your skimmer, KZ carbon in a media bag, and no other form of nutrient control (since you don't want to be fighting against the zeovit system). 95 psi is a little high to feed your RO system, I would likely recommend bumping that down to between 65 and 80 with the adjustment screw on the booster.
ukemaxxer
ukemaxxer - 8 years ago
Thanks for this video, I'm just setting up a new Red Sea Reefer 525xl. I'll be using solely dry rock, Aquaroche, and fully intend to go ulns with this tank. My current tank is suffering from nitrate and phosphate issues due to using too coarse a substrate, which I am now unable to get to enough of to clean fully. I was thinking about going the Zeovit route, so looking forward to that video.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+ukemaxxer Very cool, thanks!
Patrick Cox
Patrick Cox - 8 years ago
Thanks for another great video! I was glad to see that you are implementing Zeovit on this tank as I am starting a new tank this month that will be Zeovit as well so I am anxious to follow your progress!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Patrick Cox Thanks! That's awesome.
Tetra84
Tetra84 - 8 years ago
Zeovit & Reef Chili together?? Or one or the other?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Tetra84 You can certainly do both, but you just need to be mindful of the dose. :)
Tetra84
Tetra84 - 8 years ago
What do you do if you go out of town for a week or two and don't have someone who can shake your Zeovit reactor once a day? Seems like this could be automated somehow..
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Tetra84 There are some automatic reactors out there, but generally you are able to leave the system alone for a few days without negative effects. Outside of that you might need a tank sitter. :)
Darren Thomas
Darren Thomas - 8 years ago
Being from Canada I don't shop with you, shipping charges and all. But I still watch every video and find them very valuable. I've even gone back and watched alot of the older videos. Speaking of which Ryan has come a long way from the early days. He's like a seasoned pro. I guess you could say he is a seasoned pro. You don'e ever see much advertising for Zeovit, probably because it doesn't really need it.
I was wondering though if in the future you might incorperate the Triton Testing. It would be interesting to see what the results are while using Zeovit.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Darren Thomas Thanks! It's on our radar, and we're planning on taking a closer look ;)
Brandon nikel
Brandon nikel - 8 years ago
Hey guys, I am also going to run zeovit. I have a question for you. I have a 200 total gallon tank so I need to run 2L of media. I am either getting the vertex 1.5L or 3L. The 1.5 would be to small but the 3L would be to big. Does this media have to be packed tight? Or can it be loosely put in and can I just run the 3L with 2L of media?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Brandon nikel You'll be just fine with the over-sized reactor; no need to keep it tightly packed like carbon. :)
Reef glow19
Reef glow19 - 8 years ago
iam have to start a new tank build using zeovit
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Pedro loaiza :P
russmaleartist
russmaleartist - 8 years ago
Thanks for another good video . . . hope you and your staff had a Merry Christmas, and I will take this opportunity to wish all of you a most Happy New Year with good health and prosperity.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+russmaleartist Thank you! A very happy New Year to you as well.
mrbigshot29
mrbigshot29 - 8 years ago
im like an addict. i cant wait for a new video and rush to get home to watch it.

im really hoping this goes longer than 52 weeks or something similar comes along. nearly everything i have known already bit i still learn something here and there and that alone makes it invaluable.

you have no idea just how much the t5 video has shaken up the reefing community. so many posts about people now finally adding t5's to their leds and seeing the benefits. i love my t5 setups.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+mrbigshot29 Wow, thanks! Glad you're liking the series, and than you for watching!
T Surro
T Surro - 8 years ago
I wish u guys used bio pellets, cheap easy but with its draw backs, kz is very expensive even with Black Friday, I know it's not as popular, so that's why u are doing it, it's probably a huge mark up on price, I've used some products and haven't seen extreme results, so I'm using what I have left because I have already spent the money, hope to see better results with ur tank!!
hamid rasouli
hamid rasouli - 7 years ago
T Surro /// not really expensive; especially if you live in US, but if you live in Middle East like me products are really expensive and most of them you can not find, but I exam zeolites media with nano bio media and any others...;Matrix from seachem are more powerful than bioball also it's absorption dust...;
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+T Surro Biopellets are a great option for sure, and I can see where you are coming from. We're hoping to dispel some rumors of the system and to make things a little easier to understand for those that want to start it. Some of the better tanks we have seen use this system, but there are also a lot of amazing tanks out there that utilize other systems.
Danny Betkowski
Danny Betkowski - 8 years ago
Maybe something you plan to go over in the Zeovit episode, but what about for a FOWLR tank with high nutrients? Obviously large water changes would be the #1 but after that to keep the nutrients down and avoid algae blooms?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Danny Betkowski We carry a couple different options here:

http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/protein-skimmers/reactors/nitrate-reactors.html
Danny Betkowski
Danny Betkowski - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom Appreciate the advice :) We were trying vodka for now as a cheaper solution but definitely curious about the price gated options too. Is there a reason BRS doesn't carry denitrators?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Danny Betkowski Gotcha! I would look into biopellets, or denitrators :)
Danny Betkowski
Danny Betkowski - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom Thanks. Our personal issue is nitrates only (GFO controls phosphates no problem) and big enough water changes to make a difference on a 300g tank. So looking for supplemental :)
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Danny Betkowski We'll likely be covering that later in the series, but a few of the carbon dosing methods we highlighted here would be great options to help control nitrates in a fish only. You're right though, water changes will be your best bet.
Darren's Marine World
Darren's Marine World - 8 years ago
Great video, with so many products out there it's good to see a video that shows the basic differences between each method. There are also Bio Active salts out there from the likes of Tropic Marin and Aqua Forest from Europe that can tie in nicely with some of these products.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+rudy vandisarzio Thanks, and good point! There are some salts out there with a carbon dosing component already included.
floydpros
floydpros - 8 years ago
I struggled with high nitrates for over a year trying different kinds of carbon and weekly 30% water changes with no luck. couldn't get nitrates under 160 ppm. I stumbled on an article about sulfur denitrator and thought I'd give it a try. that has been the single best decision I have made for my tank yet. Love you videos guys, keep it up.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+floydpros Cool! Always love to hear success stories. :)
floydpros
floydpros - 8 years ago
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Fraysreef
Fraysreef - 8 years ago
Hey BRS loved this episode, I've had my IM_nano up and running for 5months now and its looking amazing thanks to all your help and advice. I have learnt so much from this experience, graphing levels, taking notes and obsessive maintenance I have just put an order for a 300Gallon custom aquarium and look forward to running Zeovit to gain more time enjoying the hobby. >>> my no.1 learn: ZERO no3-po4 = mega issues my obsessive maintenance actually stunted growth take this advice on new reefers!!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+tropicalcentral Awesome! Thanks, and I'm really happy to hear we were able to help. Let us know if you have any questions about that tank when you set it up!
Ryan Deniston
Ryan Deniston - 8 years ago
Just wanted to say first how much i really appreciate all the time and thought you guys put into all these great videos. i am a noob reefer as I just recently purchased a Red Sea Reefer 450 to be my first saltwater tank ever. Its setting empty right now as I have 80lbs of Pukani Dry Rock curing in a couple Brute Trash cans. I purchased this rock from you guys and all I can say is WOW. The pieces I received were amazing, and pound for pound the 80lbs is more like 100+ compared to other rock I looked at.
To my question.. as I am learning all of this as I go..I was going to run a BRS Media Reactor with a 1/3 GFO and 2/3 ROX 0.8 carbon. If I add a Bio Pellet Reactor with the BRS Bio Pellets is this overkill. I plan on using all of Red Seas products..for me as a new reefer the system seems a little more laid out and takes the guess work out of things. I base what I buy solely on what I am learning here and will be using BRS for all my aquarium needs. So i blame you guys if it fails..lol jking. Also do I add these items after the tank has been established or can I run them from the start after I add the water to the tank and start the cycling process. Thanks again for the videos!!!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Ryan Deniston Thanks! Glad you're liking the series. Good choice on that tank, they are sweet! You can run GFO and carbon along side biopellets, however when you are initially booting up the pellets it's recommended to temporarily suspend the use of GFO until the biopellets take hold. I would probably start them off when you set the tank up. :)
Christopher Sanchez
Christopher Sanchez - 8 years ago
Great video on covering the different nitrate reduction systems. However, I am disappointed you selected to go with the Zeo-Vit system on this tank. I do agree the system work, but it is a very hands on system that requires daily observation, tinkering and additives. If I did not have 4 kids and had their time and tuition money available, this is the system I would go for!

However, like most reefers, I don't.

Personally, I just installed your BRS biopellet reactor on my tank; this was more for supplemental use as well as for future use and not as my current primary means. I'm actually going for the Eco-System Miracle Mud method on my tank as it is lower effort, more hands off and another proven system. The "Miracle" name and contents of the mud is up for much debate, like ZeoVit. However those who use it swear by the results. Regardless of what mud you use, it is a refugium based system so I do hope to see you cover this type (even if not this brand) of system next week.

And this brings up another issue, I did not think you could use refugiums on Zeovit system because if you have a low nutrient system, then you cannot grow macro algae, right?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Christopher Sanchez Honestly I have not heard of any specific studies, however in my experience it likely doesn't cause an appreciable difference.
Christopher Sanchez
Christopher Sanchez - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom Ryan, a quick side question.  I was looking at the chemical equation at the 8:21 mark and it appears to me that using your BRS pellets would contribute some incidental alkalinity to the aquarium in the form of Bicarbonate as well as some CO2.  Do you know if pH and alkalinity impacts have been investigated with the biopellets?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Christopher Sanchez I know where you're coming from, it can certainly be an in-depth system that requires some tweaking, however I think there is a stigma attached to the system that hopefully we will help dispel with this series. Some of the best tanks we've seen utilize the Zeovit system. Granted, you can have an amazing tank other ways as well. We'll be covering refugiums this week, and you might be pleased with the route we take. :)
Freddy Buitenhuis
Freddy Buitenhuis - 8 years ago
Whishing you a happy new year from the Netherlands.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Freddy Buitenhuis To you as well Freddy!
discman K
discman K - 8 years ago
Dang, I just bought your (BRS) carbon reactor and bio pellet reactor. I'm still going to try bio pellets, since it seems much easier for me.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+discman K No worries, there is a system for everyone! Biopellets are much simpler to run and get the hang of, and they too offer really great results. :)
Rory Vermeulen
Rory Vermeulen - 8 years ago
Hi BRS, could you tell me how big Jason's tank is? Thx
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Rory Vermeulen That's a 60 gallon 24 x 24 x 24 inch cube :)
Rory Vermeulen
Rory Vermeulen - 8 years ago
+Rigel Martinez hi Rigel, i know the big tank is 160 gallon. it's Jason's tank the smaller cube tank with the tang, anthias and chromis in it i am interested in.
Andrew Hales
Andrew Hales - 8 years ago
+Rigel Martinez He wants Jason's tank dimensions not the 160.
Rigel Martinez
Rigel Martinez - 8 years ago
+Rory Vermeulen 160 gallons. That's why the series is called BRS160.
Dave Davis
Dave Davis - 8 years ago
As usual Great Video!! I came away from it with a lot of information and a lot to think about. I currently use the Red Sea Reef Management Program and I'm very happy with the results I've seen. I've been very curious about ZeoVit for a long time. The one thing I can say is you always know a ZeoVit tank when you see one. I may think about implementing it on my new tank build and see if I can reproduce the same results that I've seen others achieve. The overall cost is the only limiting feature I see. Red Sea is user friendly and much more affordable to implement. Happy New Year guys and can't wait to see the next installment.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Dave Davis Yeah, hopefully we'll help to dispel some rumors and make it a little simpler to understand with this series. We like the Red Sea program a lot as well, with a few tanks running it here in the office.
Fred Garcia
Fred Garcia - 8 years ago
I started the ZEOvit system a few months back and bought EVERYTHING from BRS. BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE IN THE INDUSTRY! That means you, Connor and Carter!!! Anyway, I'm blown away with the results already. Labor intensive??? If you can't take all of 1 minute, twice a day (morning and night) to pump you reactor for 10 seconds and put a few drops of additive in your tank, then I don't know how you have ANY time for this hobby. As far as vacations go, the systems hold fine for a few days on its own. The ZEOvit forum is FULL of all the info you need to get your tank going and friendly people that are happy to help advise you on any questions or issues that may arise. I'm so happy that the BRS 160 is gonna be a ZEOvit tank! I couldn't recommend ZEOvit and BRS enough! So excited to see what BRS is gonna do with ZEOvit and the BRS 160.
Fred Garcia
Fred Garcia - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom Awesome, I spoke with Connor earlier today and it seems they already got the message :) Those guys work wonders!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Fred Garcia Thank you for sharing Fred! We are really excited to give this a shot. It should look really stunning! I'll be sure to share this with Connor and Carter. It may just make their day :)
Johann Garcia
Johann Garcia - 8 years ago
thanks ryan, awsome video , really interesting!!!!! and happy new year brs team and everyone!!!!!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Johann Garcia Thanks, to you as well!
Mike Baier
Mike Baier - 8 years ago
Great video as usual! But I was really hoping you were going to go into more detail on bio pellet info though...would have loved to of seen a more in depth comparison of reactors and proper implementation of bio pellet usage... for example fact or myth that the output of a biopellet reactor should be plumbed to discharge right by the intake of the water source feeding the protein skimmer etc
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Mike Baier Happy to help!
Mike Baier
Mike Baier - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom Appreciate the reply guys!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Mike Baier We found that we saw a drop in nutrients even when running an undersized or no skimmer at all. So while it's likely a best practice to run the output of the reactor near your skimmer's intake, it' probably not necessary.
ibi nyth
ibi nyth - 8 years ago
Thank you for going with zeovit.. I plan on using it on my new tank build from the start as well
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+ibi nyth (ibinyth) Nice! Be sure to share your tank once you get it going :)
Troy H
Troy H - 8 years ago
Hi. Your videos are always great. I am curious if BRS or anyone else has ever used expanded clay pellets (used in hydroponics) either in reactors or loose in the sump to increase surface area for bacteria. They are pretty cheap and very porous. The only potential problem I could see is the introduction of minerals that may not be desirable, but I am not sure if there are in fact any impurities or, if so, whether they are bioavailable. I think they could be used in an experiment to compare to MarinePure.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Troy H I have used them before for false bottoms in my dart frog vivariums, but as far as a reef tank goes I would be a little hesitant simply because I am not certain on the makeup of the clay. We may have to test that out :)
Felix The Cat
Felix The Cat - 8 years ago
A lot of good "food" for thought here.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Felix The Cat Good one : )
eric85855
eric85855 - 8 years ago
So this reef saver rock I bought is useless?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+eric85855 Pukani is pretty porous as well. Honestly, I really like to use Reef Saver in my tanks since it is so easy to work with.
eric85855
eric85855 - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom Is the dry pukani pourous too?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+eric85855 No, there are pros and cons to everything. Reef saver costs less, comes clean, stacks really well and doesn't need to be cured because there is no organic content on it. For instance the cement based rock we used in the BRS 160 will likely have the same issue as reef saver. The external surface area will process ammonia into nitrate but I don't think there will be a tremendous amount of anaerobic denitrification within the rock.
Pew Heretic
Pew Heretic - 8 years ago
Thanks again guys. As always, you put out great info and are all about the education. I disagree with those that think this has anything to do with commercialism or advertising. Exactly opposite! Good luck with your Zeovit choice, but like all the other choices you've made (that we all make), I'm sure you'll end up tweaking and responding to what your tank and inhabitants communicate to you. I'm an eager observer and well-wisher for all you're doing. Thanks for this great service you provide. Happy New Year! :)
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Pew Heretic Our approach to advertising is just different than most. More or less we just want to help reefers be successful and learn about different approaches to the hobby and then hope that when the time comes to buy something for your tank you select us because of that value. So far the exchange of value has benefited the viewers and team here at BRS but it is a pretty big leap of faith : )


I am excited to see how the zeo system turns out on this tank.
eroggero
eroggero - 8 years ago
Unfortunately that system is very labor intensive , how would a reefer handle that system when on vacation , can you let it sit idle for a week or so and just pick back up when you return thanks?
brsund06
brsund06 - 8 years ago
You can also automate drop dosing with some of the higher end dosing pumps, kz also makes some automatic Reactors but you can go quite a while without shaking the stones as long as you keep up on your zeostart
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+eroggero Most people believe that it would be ok for a reasonable length vacation. I know Jason misses weekends on his office tank every week without issue.

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filterz on
filterz on - 8 years ago
Thanks for another great and informative video. Congrats on reaching the halfway point in the series, looking forward to the next 26 :)
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+filterz on Thanks, it has been really challenging to put these longer 20 minute videos tother each week. I am also looking forward to the next 26 : )
Alec G
Alec G - 8 years ago
I didn't even know I needed the zeo stuff! shut up and take my money!
Alec G
Alec G - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom I'm quickly learning I'm a gear junky! sad thing though is about the UV and Ozone part. that's two less items :( unless I can run em on a schedule of some sort!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Alec G I think you will be impressed with the results : )
Rudy B
Rudy B - 8 years ago
Awesome video as always. I like the idea of the red sea products. Is there more information on it? I use some products but would like to know more about it
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Rudy B Check out this series, its really well done. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvWD2W0D6wyvHUFxFM75WzQztfsmvONj1
Rotter Tube Reef
Rotter Tube Reef - 8 years ago
Great video as always. Full of awesome info! Ryan is the best! On a side note, I run a weekly saltwater aquarium care show and I run contests here and there for my subscribers. Can I purchase BRS gift certificates for them? I get all my stuff from you guys. Thanks!
Steve
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+ROTTER tube Reef You can find them here:

http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/brs-gift-card.html

:D
Rotter Tube Reef
Rotter Tube Reef - 8 years ago
cool. I'm assuming there is a place on your site for that?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+ROTTER tube Reef Thats awesome, absolutely : )
Max Power
Max Power - 8 years ago
Thank you for the video,for informational purpose its good to learn what the experts like BRS must do to have the best looking tank to show in YouTube videos, but this is way to COMPLEX for my level. Good to see what the Major Leaguers in reefing are doing
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Max Power I agree, mostly we just want to provide information and results so reefers can see how the different systems work. We tried to stress pretty hard this isn't necessary but does have unique advantages.
Rosco's Reef with Scott
Rosco's Reef with Scott - 8 years ago
Happy New year from NJ. Looking forward to this part of the series to see the development and how zeovit contributes to it.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+TheScott21467 I think the tank is going to turn out to be pretty stunning : )
NanoReef Drop
NanoReef Drop - 8 years ago
Kind of disappointed you went the zeo route. Enjoyed the series up until now, seems like you sold out..
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Byron Morrison I'll suggest that we do :)
NanoReef Drop
NanoReef Drop - 8 years ago
Cheers, will you cover automated dosing of zeo?
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Byron Morrison When it comes to organic filtration, that is certainly the case. We chose Zeo since it provides the best organic filtration possible (even if it is a little bit of a chore to work with). Once we think about adding corals though, we will also be covering the basics of Alkalinity, Calcium, and Magnesium, as well as the many ways to maintain those parameters, including dosing. :)
NanoReef Drop
NanoReef Drop - 8 years ago
it was my thought after watching the video that they are going to use all zeo products, am i wrong?
NanoReef Drop
NanoReef Drop - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom
personally i have nothing against zeo, in fact i have a distro just down the road who is willing to sell/teach/show me how to use it, and i may.


I guess im disappointed that after 25 weeks you guys have just taken a complete change in direction. It would have been nice to see the basics of cal, mg, alk dosing etc as everything so far has shown the complete basics for beginners which has been great.


Looking forward to the demystification of Zeovit.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Byron Morrison Also, the nature of this series really is to look at all the available options for each topic and select the best one. IMHO Zeo really is the best carbon dosing solution.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Byron Morrison It is interesting that zeo has that type of mindset attached to it. There is a lot of negativity attached to zeo. I assume because of the cost and the optional nature of the system which makes it hard to justify to most. However anyone who has seen zeo tanks in person is forced to admit they are typically pretty stunning. Our goal is to show the results so reefers can make more informed decisions based on real results.
Sociophobian
Sociophobian - 8 years ago
This the only cod this week? U missed one last week
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Lord Tourettes Last week was a pretty short week at BRS with christmas : )
Ted R.
Ted R. - 8 years ago
Zeovit makes testing/maintaining alk, calcium, and magnesium look like child's play. I'm one where if it's not easy to do I won't add it to my reef. lol. I'm gonna be hard pressed to ever try this so do your best BRS to convince me. I will give you this though, I'd rather drink the Vodka than add it to my tank. lol.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Quinn Johnze Haha, good catch.
Quinn Johnze
Quinn Johnze - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom
Careful with that "biological flirtation"! You'll only add to the problem. Sorry had to say it.
Ted R.
Ted R. - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom I run gfo/carbon, grow chaeto, and do weekly water changes as my algae/nutrient control. A big thing I've learned is to not overfeed. If you overfeed you're doomed unless you have sufficient nutrient export.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Ted Regnerus I agree to a point however fighting algae battles isn't easy either and its the results that make it worth while. However I personally probably don't have the staying power for this type of thing like Jason does. If i was doing all the maintenance I would probably not use a biological flirtation method like this either..
aCaptAmerica
aCaptAmerica - 8 years ago
this series is basically a long commercial, there I said it.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+aCaptAmerica I guess in many ways it is a type of commercial. We absolutely are presenting the value of some products and systems. While it isn't important to us that you buy the products in the commercial we do hope that the video and knowledge shared presents value to the reefing community and you might consider buying something from us sometime in the future. Between salaries, space, product, testing equipment this costs us about 250k a year to produce or $5,000 an episode so we obviously hope people do buy something someday to sustain this. Because of the cost associated with videos like this no other reefing company puts much effort into it. However because I am the owner I can spend my money how I see fit and I think helping reefers make informed buying decisions is a good way to spend it.


End of the day I do hope reefers get more out of this than your average commercial : )
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Bryan Tabares Thanks! It's my personal goal to just help people make the right decisions for them and present all of the information we can even if that information leads them not to buy something. I guess we just have a lot of faith that reefers value this and when it does come time to buy something they will buy it from a company they value. So far that seems to be the case : )
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+aCaptAmerica It can absolutely be viewed that way and i'd certainly understand why someone might think that. Another vantage point is we are talking the time and effort to show the pros and cons of all the different products we offer to the reefing community as well as information on how to use them and the results. The later is my motivation because I know how hard it can be to learn everything someone needs to know about all this and its almost impossible to sort through all of the opinions and clutter on forums.
aCaptAmerica
aCaptAmerica - 8 years ago
+Bryan Tabares ikr, just watch this commercial.
Bryan Tabares
Bryan Tabares - 8 years ago
+aCaptAmerica I've never seen a commercial where they tell you the cons of the very products its trying to sell you.
cornovii
cornovii - 8 years ago
A little disappointed you've gone the zeovit route with the 160 as most people wouldn't to try it. You can't deny the results of using it though. Happy new year!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+cornovii Just one of those things we have never done for the viewers before. Excited to share the results.
DayNation
DayNation - 8 years ago
Wow I'm surprised that you chose to use Zeovit over your own products that you've touted as the best. At least up till now you have. Excited for the results, thanks to the BRS team for your dedication & experience. Happy New Year!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+DayNation We don't sell a carbon dosing system like this under the BRS brand other than the biopellets. Biopellets work at reducing nitrates, inexpensive and easy to use but there are still a of unknowns and they don't typically produce the same awesome results as zeo tanks.
brsund06
brsund06 - 8 years ago
Nice I didn't think this build would be doing zeovit. I was hoping you guys would. I live up in duluth not far from you and have been running zeovit for quite some time now it is an awesome system I've ran many types of filtration but for my 350g build I had to continue with zeovit. smart choice on the reactor. If you guys are interested I would love to donate you some acropora for your system. like I said I am not far away and when you guys are nutrient poor stable and ready for coral I'd be happy to give you some variety from my zeovit tank aefw free.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+brsund06 PM sent : )
brsund06
brsund06 - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom I would be heading down tomorrow in the morning I think the party starts around two I could swing by your place before and drop them off if you give me an address or you can email me or call to figure out an arangment I have some corals plugged and ready to go and others I would clip some fresh to give a variety of colors and species.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+brsund06 What time will you be in town? we have a frag system at the office we could hold them in. I think it would be amazing to have corals from the community in the tank.
brsund06
brsund06 - 8 years ago
+BulkReefSupplyCom I'm actually heading down for the weekend tomorrow for a Christmas party in Minneapolis I'm not sure if you guys are ready yet unless you have a holding system ready to go I could drop some off if you want unless you guys want to drive out sometime and pick from what you like I got a jungle of acros to pick from.
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+brsund06 Thats an awesome offer. Let us know when you are in town. My fiancée is from Duluth : )
Mastertechrepair Guerrero
Mastertechrepair Guerrero - 8 years ago
its new years no one is liking this lol
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+Mastertechrepair Guerrero everyone is too hung over to hit the button : )
Vado Velocity
Vado Velocity - 8 years ago
happy new years from California! !!!!
BulkReefSupplyCom
BulkReefSupplyCom - 8 years ago
+hans vado to you as well : )

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