30 Etec vs 40hp Yamaha

2 Stroke vs 4 Stroke? You be the Judge. All we know is this is a great video to watch if you're thinking about a new 40Hp outboard. Quintrex Fishing Boat Review http://www.caloundramarine.com.au We are open Monday -- Friday from 8am to 5pm and on Saturdays from 8am to 4pm Sunday By Appointment. Caloundra Marine has a certified service centre, servicing all makes and models of boat and outboard motors. Contact us for more information on servicing your boat or motor. Caloundra Marine sells a great variety of new and used boats and is an official dealer for Quintrex, Evinrude, and Suzuki motors. Sunshine Coast Marine Centre specialises in creating the perfect boating package for your needs and we can service all areas of the Sunshine Coast, Brisbane and the Gold Coast. Caloundra Marine offers customised marine trimming services. We are the only dealership on the Coast with a dedicated Trim Shop. Our sales department offers personalised service with factual product knowledge to make your boating easy. Building you the right package to suit your individual requirements is important to us. Upon delivery of your boat, we offer on-water tuition to familarise you from bow to stern. Service and preventative maintenance information will also be provided to keep you on the water. You can be assured that when you leave the dealership you will have everything required for safe boating

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2 Stroke vs 4 Stroke? You be the Judge. All we know is this is a great video to watch if you're thinking about a new 40Hp outboard. Quintrex Fishing Boat Review http://www.caloundramarine.com.au We are open Monday -- Friday from 8am to 5pm and on Saturdays from 8am to 4pm Sunday By Appointment. Caloundra Marine has a certified service centre, servicing all makes and models of boat and outboard motors. Contact us for more information on servicing your boat or motor. Caloundra Marine sells a great variety of new and used boats and is an official dealer for Quintrex, Evinrude, and Suzuki motors. Sunshine Coast Marine Centre specialises in creating the perfect boating package for your needs and we can service all areas of the Sunshine Coast, Brisbane and the Gold Coast. Caloundra Marine offers customised marine trimming services. We are the only dealership on the Coast with a dedicated Trim Shop. Our sales department offers personalised service with factual product knowledge to make your boating easy. Building you the right package to suit your individual requirements is important to us. Upon delivery of your boat, we offer on-water tuition to familarise you from bow to stern. Service and preventative maintenance information will also be provided to keep you on the water. You can be assured that when you leave the dealership you will have everything required for safe boating

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for 30 Etec vs 40hp Yamaha

David Heitman
David Heitman - 5 years ago
where is mercury? ha. i'd be bummed if it did bad?
mike oxmaul
mike oxmaul - 5 years ago
Yamaha sucks
Bb Cala
Bb Cala - 5 years ago
Thanks for comparison from 2 or 4 stroke. I have a 50 2 stroke yamaha and wanted to know if 4 stroke was the better option, but after video. I'll stick to what I have
kevin rossiter
kevin rossiter - 5 years ago
I’m in the boating industry and have been for 20 years now. My big dealers that sell all the motor brands tell me me the best and most reliable with fewest problems is Yamaha hands down. Basically rate them this way. Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, mercury and E-tech
fishing with Lucano
fishing with Lucano - 5 years ago
Have had a evinrude and had nothing but problems it just stopped and did not start again would never own one again would only have a Yamaha
irishtoffee 1
irishtoffee 1 - 5 years ago
I have seen a lot of videos claiming e tecs are unreliable, is this true. They seem to be the fastest but if they are unreliable they are pointless.
D Briggs
D Briggs - 5 years ago
How about a price comparison between the 4?
And a warranty comparison.
overexposurevideo
overexposurevideo - 5 years ago
thnx for the video, bought the yamaha after seeing the video. very reliable engine with the the highest resell value
centrex600 centrex600
centrex600 centrex600 - 5 years ago
I would really love to see the 4 identical boat and outboard test done on the 60hp models, perhaps on something like the Stacer 529 Sea Horse or similar weight and drag vessel. It would really give these outboards a run for their money. The Stacer 529 Sea Horse is only rated to a max 60hp outboard, yet it is a huge open boat that can carry 6 persons and can take a fair bit of chop with 3mm alloy hull bottom and transom.

10. comment for 30 Etec vs 40hp Yamaha

bsft
bsft - 5 years ago
Not really a comparison, but I have 4.5m pongrass with 97 model 2 stroke 50 on back.
Brothers boat is 4m pride with Yamaha 80 on the back. Mine gets on plane a whole lot quicker than his.
#allhailevinrude
Mike White
Mike White - 5 years ago
apples oranges what r u saying?
Kenny Bradshaw
Kenny Bradshaw - 5 years ago
Great video! Excellent!
John Daugaard
John Daugaard - 5 years ago
fake vid again by evin
Putin The Great
Putin The Great - 5 years ago
Please compare 40 Etech 2 stroke to Yamaha 40 Enduro 2 stroke
allyn wadleigh
allyn wadleigh - 5 years ago
Come on lets compare apples to apples put it against a mercury two stroke. The merc will leave it in the dust
The Moon is square
The Moon is square - 5 years ago
That don't make them anymore because they couldn't get the emission regulations, and they didn't build DFI that small, you can't even compare an apple to a non existent apple either....doh.
Keithsk-Gaming
Keithsk-Gaming - 5 years ago
I believe the reason why the Evin rude ruled the roost is because it is substantially lighter than any 4 stroke on the market
Keithsk-Gaming
Keithsk-Gaming - 5 years ago
@Victorious victor very true also
Victorious victor
Victorious victor - 5 years ago
And more torque
Sebastian
Sebastian - 5 years ago
what about e tec 40 vs yamaha 40 2 stroke?
Wasup Fool
Wasup Fool - 5 years ago
Wait until you have a problem with the computer on your E tech. You can’t just take one off the shelf and replace it. You have to buy one and send it to BRP to be programmed for your specific motor. It will only work on your motor and no other motor even if it’s identical.
Wasup Fool
Wasup Fool - 5 years ago
Reliability wise the Suzuki is by far the best motor. E Tec is junk long term,plus dealing with BRP is a nightmare. Yamahas are not the Motors they used to be.
Abdul Elali
Abdul Elali - 5 years ago
That was a great video. There will always be an argument with 2 stroke vs 4 stroke in my opinion if you have a boat that is heavy in the back you’d go for a 2 stroke as they have a lot of low end torque and can get up on plane easy compared to a 4 stroke all depends on the application in my opinion I’ve owned an etec and they are only good when there working they can be very expensive when they do go wrong id prefer the optimax xs pro in the 2 strokes and Suzuki in the 4 strokes something they never mention in these videos is reliability which is just as important as everything else they do mention

20. comment for 30 Etec vs 40hp Yamaha

Creedsy
Creedsy - 5 years ago
Yamaha did not have a Steel prop the others did
Wasup Fool
Wasup Fool - 5 years ago
Creedsy stainless steel prop will actually slow you down on the smaller motors because they weigh so much more than the aluminum
Rusty Shackleford
Rusty Shackleford - 5 years ago
They didn't show Tohatsu because the new 40 4 stroke blows all other away no competition
Wasup Fool
Wasup Fool - 5 years ago
Rusty Shackleford Tohatsu is garbage
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
So many comments trying to justify a motor with a lack of displacement, the poor little yamaha lagged behind, all these yamaha guys mad
Rosendo Cuyasen Jr
Rosendo Cuyasen Jr - 5 years ago
I think you need to do SEO for this type of product to sell it through Asia like here the #philippines. :)
Hollis Haynes
Hollis Haynes - 5 years ago
the evinrude was trimmed up
Tom rizzo
Tom rizzo - 5 years ago
Nice
James Ritchie
James Ritchie - 5 years ago
Try running really big motors offshore ! Real blue water fishing. When you are 40 miles offshore you need reliability. Real shit ! As a Saffa we fished up to 60 miles offshore for tuna ! You do not care about hole shots on a 24 plus foot boat! Fuel consumption over long runs and offshore you want Yamaha. Mercury does not cut it!
James Ritchie
James Ritchie - 5 years ago
Nope . Yamaha all the way. Look at the complexity of Mercury manual. Tells you everything!
Russ Gallagher
Russ Gallagher - 5 years ago
So, the Etec is The Balls, then?
Steven Decator
Steven Decator - 5 years ago
Why is there no Merc there? It would win.
Don Olypopper
Don Olypopper - 5 years ago
Because Mercury would dissolve in saltwater.

30. comment for 30 Etec vs 40hp Yamaha

Boots Jr.
Boots Jr. - 5 years ago
My 115 4 stroke Mercury sips fuel and runs quiet!
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
Till it eats a piston as most Mercs do
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
Till it eats a piston as most mercs do
Joe Parker
Joe Parker - 5 years ago
Was all the props the same pinch
Bryon Bertrim
Bryon Bertrim - 5 years ago
Prop different ?
I am MGTOW
I am MGTOW - 5 years ago
I'm in awe of the 4 boats. Where can I get them? I live in Hawaii
I am MGTOW
I am MGTOW - 5 years ago
@Luke

I been searching for quintrex here in America. No luck so far. Read up on the import laws for boats. I am planning on just buying the boat without the outboard
Luke
Luke - 5 years ago
I really love these boats, they seem to only be sold in Australia. Looking for a used one in Maine. Anybody know similar boats?
TheShadow941
TheShadow941 - 5 years ago
One thing you might do is tell everyone what prop you used on the runs that can make a huge difference if they were all the same np but you didn't say!
breaking game tv
breaking game tv - 5 years ago
Fuck Yamaha....
Asmodeo Mammón
Asmodeo Mammón - 5 years ago
Suzuki always far away
gumbly
gumbly - 5 years ago
I've had a 40 E-Tec for fourteen years with zero issues. There isn't a four stroke that can touch it.
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
@Cliff Moran what a merc 40 bigfoot 4 stroke? That giant turd wont touch an etec, that merc is about as good as an anchor
Cliff Moran
Cliff Moran - 5 years ago
gumbly except a mercury
ThatBoatGuy
ThatBoatGuy - 5 years ago
Put it against another 2 stroke not 4 stroke lolol
James Ritchie
James Ritchie - 5 years ago
Reliability and fuel economy. Honda not in the test but I stick with Yamaha. I fished 40 miles off South African coast. Some of the most dangerous seas in the World. Note I said some of.
I want a motor that will get me there AND back.
In South Africa you need to rely on yourself and very reliable motors.
Never go 40 miles for Tuna on a single engine. Twin engines , dual fuel tanks. If there is a crap fuel in one tank at least you have a shot with second tank. Offshore fishing is not a joke. Prepare for the worst. Cape Coast is brutal. Best to bug out if the wind gets up! Been there when guys with high towers would disappear in a trough of wave only 400 yards away! Yes the Saffa seas get monster big! Lots of big wrecks out there!
Cliff Moran
Cliff Moran - 5 years ago
James Ritchie if you need reliability, get a mercury
puterossputeross Bowelly
puterossputeross Bowelly - 5 years ago
Thanks for sharing. 2 stroke is the only way to go w or w/o FI.
Andy G
Andy G - 5 years ago
Thanks for the video. Answered a lot of my questions
mark hutch
mark hutch - 5 years ago
mmm.., i have had Yamis my whole life.., however while what you say re brand representation.., dont you think that if the facts support worthwhile products..., then why would you be a dealer for something proven lesser. Maybe it would be a nice idea for someone to try to show me how a test review can show a Yamaha to be better..., maybe then i will change my mind back to where i was before...rgds Mark
vikingsmb
vikingsmb - 5 years ago
wear your kill cord!
Rodolfo Stragiotti
Rodolfo Stragiotti - 5 years ago
Todos con iguales helices, en tamaño, paso y material ?
Kevin flabouyfishing
Kevin flabouyfishing - 5 years ago
We're was the mercury? ??? Lol
Joe Blo
Joe Blo - 5 years ago
Im just gonna stick with Mercury ;)
C.C. Hiliner
C.C. Hiliner - 5 years ago
after owning 2 strokes my whole life

4 strokes suck wind
Brandon Nguyen
Brandon Nguyen - 5 years ago
Doesn’t look like an accurate test all motors were trimmed whereas the Yamaha was tilted all the way down
Mike Suahtla
Mike Suahtla - 5 years ago
In hot tropical conditions I had big problems with Yahama. Changed to Etec never had one problem. Economy was better and power was substantially better.

50. comment for 30 Etec vs 40hp Yamaha

deerslayer303B
deerslayer303B - 5 years ago
That's because 4 Strokes are 2 Strokes too many.
Hooper Richard
Hooper Richard - 5 years ago
Let's see which are still running with a few thousand hours on them.
Richard Pickering
Richard Pickering - 5 years ago
I tried a 40hp four stroke outboard on my 5m rib last year! Very soon guys my yamaha 40hp 2 stroke 2 cylinders were back on.
In my mind only up to 50hp no 4 Stroke engine will be better than a 40hp 2 stroke on the right boat /rib. Any dealer wants to prove it contact me.
eamh2002
eamh2002 - 5 years ago
If you want speed get a Yamaha 55 2-cyl or 60hp, OR a 50hp small gearbox johnnyrude (approx 77kg), gets upto 32-35knots on a regular 4,2-4,5m fishing boat :D
Sea Rider
Sea Rider - 5 years ago
The test the way it was held doesn't say much. To clarify, if we compare say a 2 strokes and a 4 strokes 30 HP different brands outboards both will be delivered with medium pitch stock props as the manufacturer to keep it safe will not know which type of boat will be powering their respective outboard.

To be fair with a correct hole shot water test while solo boating using same type of boat and boater, both engines should be propped right with a prop maximization to run towards their respective max wot rpm range. That test will show the agility of both engines. Should win the one which revs faster towards their max wot rpm range.
Premium WHITEcracker
Premium WHITEcracker - 5 years ago
I was just fixing to word together the same thing you're saying about the pitch of prop on each individual outboard and you did it for me thank God I scrolled through the comments
Andrew P
Andrew P - 5 years ago
I don't think any of the big players make a "bad" motor these days it just comes down to your own personal preference. Personally I would probably go with a Honda or Suzuki and then i couldn't really pick any other above the rest but if I got a great deal on any one of them Etec, Yam, Merc, Tohatsu whatever I would snap it up
skullhart
skullhart - 5 years ago
The Etec are more expensive also
Varnce
Varnce - 5 years ago
I’ll take reliability and ease of maintenance over any holeshot, time to plane or top speed numbers any day. 10 times out of 10 higher performance means less reliability and more maintenance.
Dan Dekker
Dan Dekker - 5 years ago
the yamahas hole shot is all prop/rpm issues. Shit test....
NQ lifestyle
NQ lifestyle - 5 years ago
Ummm again they compare a two stroke and a four stroke for power the four stroke always wins. Id never buy an etec and bang for buck i think e tec is the most expensive
Povilas Kuznecovas
Povilas Kuznecovas - 5 years ago
Tohatsu 18 2t...
GeekedOut Gaming
GeekedOut Gaming - 6 years ago
USA sells the biggest and most Center Console boats in the world. 80% of all outboard sales are done in USA. Ever wonder why Etec is last on the list? Let that sink in. Service intervals are longer on the etec but it cost 8x more money do service that motor. $120 a year to service my yamaha myself. If you want to go fast get a Merc. If you want to get home get a Yamaha.
Music man That likes old and new music
Music man That likes old and new music - 6 years ago
Oh yeah the evenrude did blah blah blah. And same with Suzuki. When they said the Yamaha took the longest ohhh I was pissed Yamaha is good they are just not driving it right stupid people.
S v
S v - 6 years ago
Is it stupid to get duel 30 hp or 40 hp on a 6 meter center console Or is it better to get one 90hp?. Any info will help. As I'm planning for next summer
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 6 years ago
It would be cheaper getting a 90HP. Cheaper to service and Cheaper on fuel
Mark Peters
Mark Peters - 6 years ago
I would never buy an Etec, too many reliability issues, Yamaha or Suzuki any day
eamh2002
eamh2002 - 5 years ago
I wish they made a bigger cc version of the 1992-1995 Johnson 50 VRO 2-cylinder with the 2 cylinders and same weight, for example a 70hp version that would weigh 80kg, imagine the bang for buck..
S Cherry
S Cherry - 5 years ago
Yup, I would rather have a Honda 60, for about the same weight, than any of these engines. With the next step up being the Yamaha 70, in my opinion.
Christopher Furr
Christopher Furr - 6 years ago
Well there's only one problem you're committed to a dealer to do any repair if an injector goes bad the dealer has to install it with the E-Tec I have replaced multiple fuel pumps in the E-Tec Motors well. I am not biased to any outboard a broken outboard is a good outboard to me I repair them
OokTiaopi
OokTiaopi - 6 years ago
The throttle in Yamaha F40 is 2 stages... A normal full twist, u can go just about 50-60% throttle. To go WOT, u need to twist more after first stage limitation.
Check 3:24 he twisted more to plane.

I own a 2017 F40f. Yamaha Throttle is not linear... Maybe to prevent users to WOT all the time = Save Fuel.
Rob Mitchell
Rob Mitchell - 6 years ago
The Yamaha 40 is weak. Not much torque imo
Natalia Esquivel
Natalia Esquivel - 6 years ago
Here in sud América we know that the best outboards are suzuki, here we really abuse them, when your life is your outboard choose suzuki in the 3rd World we know about this
Jarno veenstra
Jarno veenstra - 6 years ago
Dude look at that little prop from the Yamaha and the huge prop on the evinrude unfair
Scott McDonald
Scott McDonald - 6 years ago
I bought a 420 renegade with a 40 etec what a big mistake top speed was 38kph and had trouble getting on the plan. Didn’t have it long couldn’t sell the rubbish fast enough.
eamh2002
eamh2002 - 5 years ago
Maybe use the rest 3/4 throttle :D Jk, must be a shitty outboard example because that boat should plane with a 20hp for the looks of the hull :)
John ODell
John ODell - 6 years ago
would of liked to see the comparisons with Jet units on them
Music Islife
Music Islife - 6 years ago
Where were your life jackets?
Drone Videos In Florida
Drone Videos In Florida - 6 years ago
3 star rating isn’t good lol yamaha has 5 and Yamaha will never leave you broke down
Elaina Barnett
Elaina Barnett - 6 years ago
Very well done putting it out there for us. I am sizing power to a boat build. This was very helpful, thank you.
Winston Dawe
Winston Dawe - 6 years ago
yamaha best outboard motor made,,,yamaha,,
BeanGaming
BeanGaming - 6 years ago
Wrong, Mercury is the best!
Tommy Johnson
Tommy Johnson - 6 years ago
Uncontrolled, not well documented, not enough information.
Equals bullshit test, results worthless.
L Mac
L Mac - 6 years ago
My guess is you sell Evinrude outboards. Because of this false review my money will be spent elsewhere.
Mark Thomson
Mark Thomson - 6 years ago
You don’t mention prop size or pitch this is a water test for morons who don’t understand anything.
Steve LaMotte
Steve LaMotte - 6 years ago
Notice he didn’t show the bullshit meter!
Mario Albero
Mario Albero - 6 years ago
Evinrude Mercury Johnson emiten ruidos vibraciones no contéis historias Yankees lo mejor que hay son los motores japoneses y el que más corre Suzuki no contéis camelos
Mario Albero
Mario Albero - 6 years ago
No me van Suzuki
Mario Albero
Mario Albero - 6 years ago
Number one Yamaha
Gary Miller
Gary Miller - 6 years ago
E-Tec! And Yamaha's are so over rated. I'd take a Suzuki over one any time. Yami's have just as many problems as everybody does. The yearly cost savings alone on the E-Tec makes it well worth the investment. Not to mention their ten year no bullshit warranty. Jm2cw.
Kevin Stornes
Kevin Stornes - 6 years ago
The yamaha got the stook prop and the evinrude got the steel prop. Thats NOT how its gonna be!!!! I think you are trying to make the evinrude the best because if the evinrude had the stock prop it will lose.
Abdon Electric
Abdon Electric - 6 years ago
all i can say is i have a 1991 yamaha 40. have had it since new, not one problem yet, after 18 years i changed the plugs, they were still good. good maintenance is key, 27 years and still running great
Ny Chan
Ny Chan - 6 years ago
I must say I love my tohatsu .
Nemo
Nemo - 6 years ago
the evinrude will ALSO get to the repair shop much faster!
Vet Doc
Vet Doc - 6 years ago
Thats a total crooked test!
Evinrude is a peace of shit!
Yamaha rocks!
rib15
rib15 - 6 years ago
I will take a Suzuki or Yamaha anyday over the etec
Lee Williams
Lee Williams - 6 years ago
yea but the etec is obviously junk at ten years old since they quit making parts for them at ten years
max parkhurst
max parkhurst - 6 years ago
Yamaha may not be the fastest but they are the most reliable
Trevor Newton
Trevor Newton - 6 years ago
Yamaha
28cruzin
28cruzin - 6 years ago
I just read a bunch of the comments on this video. Boy, there are an awful lot of misinformed people out there. My experience with outboard motors goes back to 1962. Over the years I have owned and worked on all the major brand outboards includeing Homelite. In the past 14 years I have had more than my share of experience with low ( under 25 hp ) 4 stroke motors mostly in salt water. A simple rule of thumb I came up with based on my experience is a 4 stroke motor will not perform as well as a 2 stroke motor at the same horsepower rating with similar engine displacement. This is not only acceleration but top speed also. Repair cost is similar in carb cleaning, waterpump, and similar services but any repairs like head gaskets are very expensive. Fuel in the crankcase of a 4-stroke is a death sentence and with ethinal fuel I have seen a lot of this. Power to weight ratio is steeply in the favor of 2-strokes, just overall weight is a big issue. Compare a dinghy size 3.5 hp Tohatsu 2-stroke to a 3.5 hp Tohatsu 4-stroke. That's 27 lbs to 41 lbs. Which one do you want to hand up from the dinghy to the big boat? I saw all this stuff go on many years ago with dirt motorcycles and the 2 strokes always smoked the 4 strokes they probably still do, I don't know. Hey, the way batteries are progressing we'll all be running electric power in 10 years and the 2 vs.4 stroke issue will still be going on. By the way, in the corrosion dept. Honda and Yamaha are the worst in my experience. They both run well but rot like hell inside. Flush em and keep after the zincs is my best advise. When I am ask for advise for a larger motor I recomend Evinrude Etech. Best power to weight, fuel consumption, and warranty.
Justin Black
Justin Black - 6 years ago
My only question way the pitch on the prop close to the same
Urban
Urban - 6 years ago
2 stroke vs 4 stroke stupid compare apple with apple
Michael Sanders
Michael Sanders - 6 years ago
The 40 etec had a damn stainless steel prop on it. The yamaha had an aluminum. This test is bullshit
Titus Cato
Titus Cato - 6 years ago
Hilarious, so many butt hurt people. Nobody's telling you what to buy.
It's just the results of a simple test, if you don't care fair enough.
I ride a Suzuki motorcycle & won't buy anything else, I love'm.
Building motors is what Suzuki did from the start, not building pianos first.
jakane 07
jakane 07 - 6 years ago
yamaha is faster, but Suzuki is way more reliable
Naah bruv
Naah bruv - 5 years ago
It's not way more reliable I own 3 yamaha outboards 2006 twin 115s on my 26ft center console over 1700 hours never had any mechanical issues oil changes filters still going strong own a 40hp 4 stroke on my tinny and give it an absolute beating nothing can be way more reliable otherwise it would be unbreakable
MR Muskey
MR Muskey - 6 years ago
I get 50klm an hour on my 17ft Lund Tinny. I fish big water in northern Canada and its a great boat at 950 pounds. Dose'nt seem to care how many bodies I have in the boat. Of Course 4 strokes can’t match up to a 2 stoke. Fuel economy was the only advantage to a 4 stroke. and the Evinrude E-tech ruined that for them.
Even my fuel econony has been cut in half. although I don’t worry about it much, its an added bonus.
MR Muskey
MR Muskey - 6 years ago
I recently bought a 60hp Etec and agree with your results. Had a 2002 50hp Mercury, fuel consumption was extreme and with the choke and pumping the ball was always an issue. Great motor, Ive put 9 Tanks through it so far and I’m very happy with it. When your fishing and getting blown into the rocks, you’ll be happy the Evinrude starts instantly…Just hit the key and go!

100. comment for 30 Etec vs 40hp Yamaha

choirudin abdulgani
choirudin abdulgani - 6 years ago
2tak oke for personal and public but not servis in dealer
Sean Saal
Sean Saal - 6 years ago
Good vid, seems yamaha fans don't like loosing, I Imagine all motors came with there factory props.
Ryan Jukes
Ryan Jukes - 5 years ago
no such thing as a factory prop every boat will need the right prop fitted by the dealer
llniconll
llniconll - 6 years ago
Aka Evinrude Norwegian American Origins outweighs everything
Kyle Pfeiffer
Kyle Pfeiffer - 6 years ago
I own the 40 etec it's an incredible motor 5 years of faithful reliable service. Never complains. Runs like a champ.
High _stickin
High _stickin - 6 years ago
These are the videos people need to see.
Not just shit talking a brand but actually showing the facts.
Nice vid mate.
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 6 years ago
john hans thanks John
Niels Thomassen
Niels Thomassen - 6 years ago
Suzuki is the best
Cliff Moran
Cliff Moran - 5 years ago
Niels Thomassen and you’re fucking stupid
Jordan Smith
Jordan Smith - 6 years ago
Go with yamaha
Jordan Smith
Jordan Smith - 6 years ago
Nice
Bunsdad
Bunsdad - 6 years ago
I like these comments that say that the two strokes will be dead long after the 4 strokes. Does someone have a 1938 4 stroke to compare or a 1979 150hp 4 stroke to make a good comparison? There are a lot of 2 strokes that ran a long time. If I were powering a work machine I would want a 4 stroke but boats like motocross and snowmobiles tend to run at high throttle and 2 strokes have proven to be able to do this fairly well because of their smaller rotating mass. In fact most serious motocross people who really like to run hard are back to 2 strokes. Personally I think these new E-tech 2 strokes are under lubricated and relying on materials to lower emissions so today I would buy a 4 stroke. 4 strokes are also a lot more pleasant because you do not have to deal with the fumes. The hard reality of today's motors is that the computers and electronics will fail long before most motors. That being said I would buy Suzuki hands down. They are the best when it comes to stocking old parts and will probably still be the best at having old parts 20 years from now when you need an ECU.
stillAkillA
stillAkillA - 6 years ago
those motors were trimmed differently the susuki was bouncing the front end it was trimmed up more than the yamaha wich looked like it was trimmed so it was pushing the bow harder to the water
Peyton Dardenne
Peyton Dardenne - 6 years ago
Rewind and watch the hole shot comparison the Suzuki beat the 40 e tec
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 6 years ago
Peyton Dardenne you're right. The 40 Suzuki is a monster and is a serious motor. Its essentially a 60hp that's got 40hp stickers on it
Mid-South Outdoor Life
Mid-South Outdoor Life - 6 years ago
I've had a couple Yamahas. One was a 40 4stroke. Total turd just like this one.
GHOST-N-GUN gaming and outdoors
GHOST-N-GUN gaming and outdoors - 6 years ago
The pitch on the prop for the four stroke was too high
Gabriel Battika
Gabriel Battika - 6 years ago
Great Vid
Yosaf Ahmad
Yosaf Ahmad - 6 years ago
How much 40 yamaha
Mehmet T. Bakkal
Mehmet T. Bakkal - 6 years ago
However, my 40 hp 4 stroke performs way better than this review
Billy Adams
Billy Adams - 6 years ago
Prop makes all the difference
lupocci
lupocci - 6 years ago
Which Yamaha 40? There are many models. How many cc? is it the F40 F, F40 G or F40 H?
John Madden
John Madden - 6 years ago
Great comparison. I'd be interested to know what Prop you were running on the Etec 40hp that gave you 53-54 kph. My 2016 Etec 40 came with a 13 7/8 X 13 Aluminium and I'm doing 40 kph in a 420 that's 2/3 the hull weight of the Renegade. I'm thinking of going a 13.25 X 15 SSP or a 13 X 17 SSP might be a stretch. Of course I'll do some try outs using the Tacho & optimum range but I'm curious about what you were running.
KiakkoHirmu
KiakkoHirmu - 6 years ago
Thank you for a super informative comparison. My favorite wisdom of the video is "With us it is what it is!"
James Goldman
James Goldman - 6 years ago
Your comparison tests are great...1) Have you tested the new suzuki 350 vs Yamaha 350? 2) Do you ever do decibel tests. 2 350's or 3 350's are a HUGE racket compared to my old 225hps. All things being equal(and before I switch to sailing) Id like to buy the brand that doesn't cause hearing loss:) The Iphone app store has free or .99 cent deciblel readers..Id love one of your readers to point me to tests videos or plain reports of big outboards decible comparisons too. Thx down under mates.!
fishin fool
fishin fool - 6 years ago
The suzuki is direct injection just fyi they have the best warranty in the group and its not a garbage stinky loud 2 smoke
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
The best warranty in the group? Not one manufacturer has offered a warranty longer than Evinrude, 10 years is the best in the industry, and not sure if you own a boat or even an outboard but 2 strokes built these days are not loud and or smokey, you're stuck in the past
FSEVENMAN
FSEVENMAN - 6 years ago
no shit Einstein cuz you yoki's in the middle of nowhere can only afford yamaha's it's the poor man's motor...
I'm sure you would agree most people on the planet are complete fucking morons, so why would you go by numbers? it's the 5% you should be looking at dummy wake the fuck up
Titan Ium
Titan Ium - 6 years ago
Im sorry but Yamaha is just best
funzone123
funzone123 - 6 years ago
where is the tahatsu?
Peter Darlow
Peter Darlow - 6 years ago
This type of comparison is great for consumers, the only thing I didn't hear were the retail prices, not that that could persuade me from buying the etec 40 in this case anyway. Keep up the great work guys, 10/10.
David Apelt
David Apelt - 6 years ago
I wonder why 80 % of the pro fisher guys in my area use Yamaha's ?
Cleetus Bojangle
Cleetus Bojangle - 6 years ago
Bunch of butt hurt Yamaha fan boys lol
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
Lol i said same thing
Eightosaurus Spelunk
Eightosaurus Spelunk - 6 years ago
I'll take the Honda
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
Honda turd will rot out from salt corrosion
Jemmo
Jemmo - 6 years ago
was the Yamaha trimmed the same as the others?
FSEVENMAN
FSEVENMAN - 6 years ago
I just bought an E-Tec 40 and if you want to know why if for no other reason nevermind the hundred reasons you should buy one, the Yamaha looks like somebody crapped it out.. what a piece of shit..
Big sea
Big sea - 6 years ago
Great shoot out thanks.
b-m
b-m - 6 years ago
what about decibels? how does the etec compare?
Gold Jack
Gold Jack - 6 years ago
Of course he’s a ETEC supplier such shit review he’s not going to say ETEC shit because he sell them that why he made this video
Mandy English
Mandy English - 6 years ago
you just hate yamha you fuckend idioat
FSEVENMAN
FSEVENMAN - 6 years ago
that confirms my suspicion yamaha's are the best if you need an anchor
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
They use yamaha because that's what the boat manufacturers install, very rarely you have a choice of engine brand when buying a boat, all boat builders have deals with engine manufacturers
David Apelt
David Apelt - 6 years ago
I live in an area that has about 30 pro fisher boats. 90% use Yamaha the rest Merc
FSEVENMAN
FSEVENMAN - 6 years ago
what an ass kicking comparison thank you for posting really well done mate
yugiboi 33
yugiboi 33 - 6 years ago
mercury all day
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
Yeah till it eats a piston as most mercs are going to do
Adrian Livingstone
Adrian Livingstone - 6 years ago
Seriously people, some of you "nay sayers" should watch the video again! All they said was that they would take 3 of the most popular brands of 4 strokes and compare them to an E-Tec. They didn't say here is a comparaison against the ability of 4 stroke versus 2 stroke, they didn't say that other brands of 2 strokes are better or worse than the E-Tec. They may have not been your particular favourite 4 strokes in whatever part of the country your in. They state early on that they are from Caloundra, so perhaps just for argument's sake, the 3 they chose were probably the most popular in QLD. Sheesh some of you actually go on about prop and pitch!! Watch the goddamn video and comment on what they actually say, get off your soap boxes and go prove them wrong with your own videos!
Agent Smith
Agent Smith - 6 years ago
Rule of thumb: stay away from the four strokes. They're heavy and slow.
David Apelt
David Apelt - 6 years ago
What a load of rubbish
Sam Krieger
Sam Krieger - 7 years ago
How embarrassing for this dealer. Proping a motor is a must. One of the boats was porpoising ,that's a sign of extremely misproped boat. There is only one thing to be learned from this video. Don't get a engine from this dealer.
Luke Brownie
Luke Brownie - 7 years ago
What would you prefer speed or tough working trust worthy my hearts still with yamaha
jd d
jd d - 7 years ago
4 stroke can't compare with 2 stroke ... 2 stroke combust every time piston reaches top dead center compared to a 4 stroke . poor comparison
Broxty
Broxty - 7 years ago
Listen... Ask any guide company in north America, yamaha for reliability 100%. Japanese far surpasses any other brands. The Yamaha used here has an improper prop..
Natan Souza sabino
Natan Souza sabino - 7 years ago
vídeo falso só acelerou o Yamaha no final do vídeo em uns 3.43 minutos
Islandangler
Islandangler - 7 years ago
the one thing that looks to be missing is at what trim the motors are set to... Unless your including the trim/prop info... your video comparison is no good with out it.
WELD NZ
WELD NZ - 7 years ago
https://youtu.be/tuGgDSd00YQ Darren this boat of ours suits these motors,
WELD NZ
WELD NZ - 7 years ago
great Video Well Done Darren, Liking the 30 etech for the best economics,,
Mani Kandan
Mani Kandan - 7 years ago
Yamaha is better I think about
Daniel Lockwood
Daniel Lockwood - 7 years ago
Those are not the 2 biggest brands the 2 biggest brands are mercury and Yamaha
Jason Cooper
Jason Cooper - 7 years ago
The Yamaha had what looks like a stock prop. It was aluminum vs stainless on the etec. Dont believe any of these videos. All they gotta do is change props to make the "test" in favor of one brand.
Victorious victor
Victorious victor - 5 years ago
@Jerry 的釣魚打龜日常 4 strokes still take oil...and oil filters.

I probably burn the same amount of oil in a season as someone with a 4 stroke has to change.
Wasup Fool
Wasup Fool - 5 years ago
Jason Cooper stainless prop is much heavier and will decrease your holeshot, not increase it.
Jerry 的釣魚打龜日常
Jerry 的釣魚打龜日常 - 5 years ago
I think the main reason about perform so bad for yamaha in this video because of it's using the smallest engine block in the class, is just a 747cc engine same block as 30hp class, for NA four stroke engine there're no replacement for displacement for true.

Same four stroke outboard in this test was the Suzuki DF40 which was same block as 60hp class! So in the performance it should be really good as it higher displacement.

Compare to those 2 stroke DI like E-tec, they do great job in this because they're 2 stroke, you can compare them to 4 stroke, but also need to concerning about what 2 stroke also need to be, they burn oil to our lovely ocean and YOUR money too.
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 6 years ago
All motors were tested with stock out of the box props.
Soesanto Hiri
Soesanto Hiri - 7 years ago
Berapa harganya
Enfim From rj usa
Enfim From rj usa - 7 years ago
Good afternoon my name is Alessandro Furtado I am Brazilian and I live in Angra dos Reis Rio de Janeiro, I am a mechanic formed by emoresa YAMAHA MOTOR'S OF BRAZIL in guarulhos SP, I am going to NY at the end of the year I have experience with motors from 15 hp up to 300 hp 2 times and 4 times I have special tools and I would like to express my interest to work with you, I have no pretense of salary I am willing to negotiate I need to even have a job in my area I do not speak English very well I have an easy way to learn, I have YAMAHA training certificate contact whatsapp 24 981020994
49hsifi
49hsifi - 7 years ago
2007 75hp Etec 9 warranty claims 3 powerheads will never touch one again :-(
Sandy Sanders
Sandy Sanders - 5 years ago
49hsifi. 2009 etec 50 never any issue. changed foot lube myself one time. very efficient. much lighter than 4 stroke & jumps up on plane.
Joshua Ireland
Joshua Ireland - 7 years ago
The Yamaha 40s are great quiet and smooth running engines and are very reliable but seen a little down on power compared to the merc 40s that we run
Grant Brown
Grant Brown - 7 years ago
Put a Yamaha 2 stroke up against the e tech , pussys.
Garret141076
Garret141076 - 7 years ago
2 stroke all the way. Industry pushed 4 strokes to make more money.
Michael Powell
Michael Powell - 7 years ago
I like the Evinrudes, but buying that EXPENSIVE 2 strokes oil, also sucks. Costs more than an oil change for the four strokes.
Aleks From Norway
Aleks From Norway - 7 years ago
screw evinrude. they cheap out on the electronics, and that is really bad. believe me, i own one. the e-tecs may be a little faster, but they burn out a whole lot faster than the yamaha. the e-tecs are over-stressed and over-engineered.
Henrique Silva
Henrique Silva - 7 years ago
Legenda companheiro
Matt Mudde
Matt Mudde - 7 years ago
really good test mate made it clear.
Cayson Moczygemba
Cayson Moczygemba - 7 years ago
Mercury will kill all of them
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
Till the Merc eats a piston as most of them will do
Sam Haveaguess
Sam Haveaguess - 6 years ago
Thats is if you can get it to start !! I've owned a few mercs !! Great when there going and do seem to have a touch more power !! But a the ones i had where just pricks of things to start !! And a few friends had similar issues with them !! I know own nothing but Yamaha!! You prime the bulb pull out the choke and goes first time every time !! I service it 1 time a year then every second year drop it at the shop for a full service!! Inpella check ect !!!
blackdiamondmarine
blackdiamondmarine - 7 years ago
well done boys, great video
Reel-Lentless
Reel-Lentless - 7 years ago
Right in your lead in the Etec has a stainless prop compared to a aluminum on the Yamaha.    When you run the same props including pitch, material, mount height on each motor then you have a true comparison.   I'm not picking brands....just pointing out your had a test but not a true head to head equal comparison test.
andrew hart
andrew hart - 6 years ago
Yamaha's are usually a slower engine than OMC types anyway, that goes for most of the h.p. ranges. Their motorcycles are a better product.
andrew hart
andrew hart - 6 years ago
Alloy props are much lighter than SS ones. This would favour the Yamaha with 4 adults in the boat. Yamaha's are reliable so long as they are flushed and serviced regularly. In general however, they lack the power of other engines.
Frank
Frank - 7 years ago
caloundramarine this is a false statement I work for a evinrude dealer and the etec 40hp comes with no propeller in the box. It is up to the customer to decide what prop he wants aluminium or stainless steel. The only etec motor that have a prop included in the box are the 25hp and 30hp etec and they are packaged with an aluminium 10" x 12" pitch.
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 7 years ago
You're 100% correct that you could do after market mods to the Yamaha and it might make performance differences. However this comparison was focused on out of the box performance. The E-Tec comes standard with a stainless prop and the Yamaha comes standard with the small alloy prop.
Paul
Paul - 7 years ago
Excellent review
Harry Hall
Harry Hall - 7 years ago
Honda  ?  Mercury ??
iFrostyxx
iFrostyxx - 7 years ago
Man those e-tec's though, they are beautiful. People say the are crap but I would rely on that, apparently Yamaha are most reliable but I am more of a e-tec fan
Lover Boy
Lover Boy - 7 years ago
where are you located??
Lover Boy
Lover Boy - 7 years ago
thanks aussie
Fran Ra
Fran Ra - 6 years ago
Siberguys
Yeah but the weed is TURBO CHARGED ! ! !
Siberguys
Siberguys - 7 years ago
nog = not
Jdjhsjd Hshjdnd
Jdjhsjd Hshjdnd - 7 years ago
I don't care which one gets up faster, all I want is a reliable motor.... I think Yamaha wins it hands down.... I don't own any yamahas but my next motor is... all my past motor is just johnson....
Manny Suarez
Manny Suarez - 6 years ago
I owm a zuke 4s 9.9 a 2s murc 200 a johnson 152s and now a yammy 15 2s only two of those haven't given me probs they start with M and Y
Ross Best
Ross Best - 6 years ago
Jdjhsjd Hshjdnd reliability, & maintenance most important!
Fiveo waf
Fiveo waf - 6 years ago
The problem with these tests is that unless all the motors were propped correctly for the application, the results can be misleading.
28cruzin
28cruzin - 6 years ago
I think it's more like lowest bidder just like everything else. Does it meet spec? Lowest price wins.
arborcidal maniac
arborcidal maniac - 6 years ago
honda for sure, which actually makes some of the suzuki and tohatsu outboards. alot of people in the states don't know this but honda owns almost a half of suzuki stock, and has for years now. yamaha is still a good product folks.
arborcidal maniac
arborcidal maniac - 6 years ago
Honda is the most reliable, dot coast guard insist on honda when it matters most, like in the bearing straight.
craigd51
craigd51 - 6 years ago
Phlash buy American
A Shore
A Shore - 6 years ago
this whole reliability thing is completely blow out of proportion. when maintained properly, each brand will last just as long as the other and thats the truth. remember the whole "nightmare" about the omc VRO oil injection ? saying it will stop working and fry your motor? complete crap as long as its maintained these will last forever.
Eternal Thread
Eternal Thread - 6 years ago
Jdjhsjd Hshjdnd the old Johnsons and evinrudes are bulletproof in working on an old 9.5 Johnson seahorse right now
Phlash Ashton
Phlash Ashton - 6 years ago
Go Honda or Suki buddy
Cleetus Bojangle
Cleetus Bojangle - 6 years ago
I had a 1990 25hp evinrude and that thing was bullet proof we'd let it sit out all winter and even went a year with out being used and started up first try so next motor I'll get is a 100% an evinrude
bass fishing pro
bass fishing pro - 6 years ago
Jdjhsjd Hshjdnd. Johnson are bad ass
Natan Ssouza
Natan Ssouza - 7 years ago
Yes but the trim of the yamaha is very low and I know I saw several and I have a smaller one but nothing against the ezrude a great engine but we have to be fair but obeyed anyway
Natan Souza sabino
Natan Souza sabino - 7 years ago
They neither accelerated the yamaha and nor raised the standard trim of the American misleading advertisement I've seen several yamahas running away with boats like this
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 7 years ago
Hi Natan, hopefully this video will fix you're concerns (P.S. We're Aussi not American) https://youtu.be/Izzjuz1WMCc?t=14s
Ben Planchon
Ben Planchon - 7 years ago
all same props?
pitbullmarine
pitbullmarine - 7 years ago
so the yamaha probably could have used a smaller prop or a 4 blade and what you forgot to mention was the oil consumption. the etec burnt oil that costs $50 a gallon while the 4 strokes didn't burn any and an oil change is only done once a year instead of constant top up with the 2 stroke. parts are more expensive with the etec too.
andrew hart
andrew hart - 6 years ago
If you only change your car engine oil once a year you will end up with a dropped bearing.
Vasko Dimoski
Vasko Dimoski - 7 years ago
come on what about the prop on yamaha looks like not testing fair prop make big difference looks like solars prop on etec and plastic yamaha
gallipoli95
gallipoli95 - 7 years ago
Not a fair test, should compare 2 stroke with 2 stroke engines. Try the Yamaha 2 stroke 40hp instead of the 4 stroke.
Raj Kiran Thomas
Raj Kiran Thomas - 7 years ago
gallipoli95 every engine with same 40 hp range so it's fair
jim bob
jim bob - 8 years ago
never fill fuel containers in the back if a ute, the static electricity could spark and cause a vapour fire .. always place on the ground to ebsure the static disapates
Brono
Brono - 8 years ago
How is the prop steer on these outboards? is the etec 40 hard to handle with the larger gear case ? thank you great videos
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 8 years ago
they're manageable, depends on how you trim them
sdanville
sdanville - 8 years ago
the weight of the motor , to me, is a huge consideration. I would guess one man could pick up the 30HP
and no way the 2 four strokes.
Peter Hanrahan
Peter Hanrahan - 8 years ago
the 30 still weighs 88kg from memory.
Ryan Roberts
Ryan Roberts - 8 years ago
Would like to see how a Mercury would compare, I never have rated the Yamaha myself
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
@Cliff Moran if you could get the Merc running, them piles of garbage are about as unreliable as they come
Cliff Moran
Cliff Moran - 5 years ago
Ryan Roberts a mercury would fuck those motors up with no problem
ignafiltro
ignafiltro - 8 years ago
u guys sell etecs, unreliable AF
M F
M F - 8 years ago
guys in all honesty, people watching, would you the suzuki 40 or the etec 40? the etec is heavier
Brandon Foster
Brandon Foster - 8 years ago
What pitch props?
Corinne Parker
Corinne Parker - 6 years ago
I was thinking the same thing bullshit test without that information..
Edward Rupen
Edward Rupen - 8 years ago
I love Evinride and I would
like to own a 15-60hp
mank demes
mank demes - 8 years ago
fake! my dads polyester boat goes up in plane with 5 people. 15hp yamaha 2 stroke.
Farmer2492
Farmer2492 - 8 years ago
I just sold my new Honda 40 hp four stroke wouldn't pull the hairs off your balls when back to a Yamaha 40 hp 2 stroke a massive difference
BasGG
BasGG - 5 years ago
Yes but 2 stroke uses double fuel
Dotyz Outdoorz
Dotyz Outdoorz - 8 years ago
I read all the comments in an Australian accent ha
Laurens de Wijs
Laurens de Wijs - 8 years ago
No hate but comparing a 2 stroke vs 4 stroke isn't fair
AutogolazzoJr
AutogolazzoJr - 7 years ago
Laurens de Wijs 40 hp vs. 40hp. similar price. fair by my rules
Franklin Foy
Franklin Foy - 8 years ago
I purchased a Evinrude Etec 40Hp tiller steering electric start. It will be install on a 14' smartwave 4200 hull. I do not know if you have access to a smartwave 4200 to test the 40 Etec. What I need to know is what size prop is needed for best performance.
mank demes
mank demes - 8 years ago
etec is an total lie the boat with the yamaha is slightly different and yamaha is the best then the suzuki
andrew hart
andrew hart - 6 years ago
Britain had the first large range of modern outboard engines, the U.S. then took over the market from them
andrew hart
andrew hart - 6 years ago
OMC went to cheap Alloy in its production from 2000 on, that is why they went broke and Bombardier then bought them out producing the E-Tec range using the Evinrude badge. The Mid-90's were possibly the best of the OMC engines, providing the fuel was premixed and not VRO.
okdan goos
okdan goos - 6 years ago
William Snyder in the netherlands (salt water, north sea) all of the coast guard ribs are using evinrude e-tec. From what i know, it is because of reliabilty and power.
craigd51
craigd51 - 6 years ago
FICHT was later repaired by BRP after the purchase and believe what u will the motors actually ran well but by that time they had such a bad rep no one would buy one, can't really blame them, but I have a 2018 Etec and it performs flawlessly, have always had JE products and always will, I stand by American made, built right here in the US, Sturdevant Wisconsin
craigd51
craigd51 - 6 years ago
Eternal Thread wrong, FICHT wasn't from China, it was deisgned buy a German company
Eternal Thread
Eternal Thread - 6 years ago
Phlash yep they were interchangeable with each other and great engines I have an early 90s 150 evinrude the only thing I had to do was change spark plugs and my grandpa grew up with evinrudes and johnsons and swears by them I'm fixing up an old 1970 Johnson seahorse 9.5 that's been sat up for years
Phlash Ashton
Phlash Ashton - 6 years ago
Gues thats why they merged with Johnson
Eternal Thread
Eternal Thread - 6 years ago
Phlash you're right evinrude was the first to have an outboard and that's why they'll always be the best but when the 90s came around omc was running out of money so research and development wasn't practical and the unreliability of ficht fuel injection system from china sadly led omc to its demise in 2000
Phlash Ashton
Phlash Ashton - 6 years ago
No actually the evinrude is the best. Here is why. Evinrude were one of the only companies that 'developed' their engines, ie pumped truck loads of money into testing and development. Most others companies took the principle idea, and copied it.
Phlash Ashton
Phlash Ashton - 6 years ago
No..
William Snyder
William Snyder - 6 years ago
Suzuki is no question better than Yamaha. Better hole shot better top speed better fuel economy better emissions and more reliable. So good infact that evinrude painted them white and slapped on some decals and resells them as their 4 stroke line. Bought my first zuk in 2003 use it all year long with thousands of hrs on it now with absolutely no mechanical problems. Most of my friends bought Yamaha and absolutely every one has been back to the shop. Incidentally what brand does the coast guard run as well as the game wardens? Suzuki. just saying.
Kk Jj
Kk Jj - 6 years ago
if you want a broken motor buy yamaha, otherwise id go with the suzuki or etec
SuperDboy4
SuperDboy4 - 8 years ago
@CHERANO KREEFT15
No
mank demes
mank demes - 8 years ago
SuperDboy4 Yes
SuperDboy4
SuperDboy4 - 8 years ago
no
John TheGreek 13
John TheGreek 13 - 8 years ago
When there are 4 stroke engines to choose from 2 stroke engines will suck so please forget about the E-tec Yamaha, Suzuki will never let you down. Mercury is good but it's more complex than needed.
sling shot
sling shot - 6 years ago
2 stroke will get out of a hole faster than any four stroke
gopernoper
gopernoper - 8 years ago
Myself and my family will always prefer Yamaha... remember, speed and the hole shot of a motor is not everything. Yamahas have incredible reliability. They start very quickly when cold, and we have never had to take any of our motors in for maintenance. Ever. we used to be running BRP outboards, but we had many electrical failures and carburation problems. we have never gone back. and we never will.
Abolish Gun Control Laws
Abolish Gun Control Laws - 6 years ago
Never owned a xri early opti 2 stroke. Shame
yoster77
yoster77 - 6 years ago
I don't know about that... a lot of the charter guys, around here anyway, are leaving yamaha due to fuel economy and reliability issues..
Invasion Nation
Invasion Nation - 6 years ago
gopernoper The big yamahas are sh** tho.
arborcidal maniac
arborcidal maniac - 6 years ago
Honda or one made by honda, just ask a rescue swimmer
craigd51
craigd51 - 6 years ago
Replaced the Johnson with a 2018 Etec 150, best money I ever spent, performs flawlessly and the fuel efficiency is awesome, 10 year warranty on top of it all
craigd51
craigd51 - 6 years ago
U sir don't have a clue, actually BRP built carburated Johnson outboards untill they discontinued the name in 2007, because of tighter emmsions carbs just can't cut it, I had a 2004 Johnson 150, great engine
Korn Dawggy
Korn Dawggy - 6 years ago
gopernoper BRP didn't own them when they ran carburetors.
Northern Arc
Northern Arc - 6 years ago
Pallas. I agree i have a tohatsu 9.9hp but convert to 15hp carb is easy to maintain
The Great Cornholio
The Great Cornholio - 7 years ago
I currently own a 70hp 2 stroke Johnson and 40hp 4 stroke Suzuki. Carburated 2 strokes are conceptually less complex and therefore more reliable engines than any EFI/DFI engines today. Less moving parts and less electrical components=less things to go wrong=less maintenance. Yes, they have shit fuel economy. Yes, they are loud as a motherfucker. But they are reliable
Christian Eidsmoe
Christian Eidsmoe - 7 years ago
So you had carburated engines? All of those were garbage. Comparing those to a new injected 2-stroke shows you don't know much.
kiqnkf
kiqnkf - 7 years ago
If you can't get home, you're motor isn't worth shit hey.
Andrew Peycha
Andrew Peycha - 8 years ago
What would be the weight of the 4 of you and the boat be? (Average)
denise marinucci
denise marinucci - 8 years ago
yamaha 3 or 4 cylinders?aaa
dave_microwave
dave_microwave - 8 years ago
my father have a 40 hp yamaha and with 8 man he comes around the 2 sec in plane
CSL
CSL - 8 years ago
I think it depends on the boat.
If you look at the begining of the video you notice that yamaha's propeller doesn't go as deep as orhers brands. At least that's how it seems to me. Sorry if I'm wrong.
highvelocity123
highvelocity123 - 8 years ago
I understand this is an advertisement for E-Tec but honestly to a someone who has been around boats for many years, it's insulting...  Mercury and Yamaha have and still do offer direct injected motors which either out perform or are on par with E-Tec...
Gary Miller
Gary Miller - 6 years ago
Not at the same horsepower rating, they don't.
andrew hart
andrew hart - 6 years ago
The Older Mercs, had those corrosion problems. I think from the 90's onwards they are good. The exception maybe with the latest ones which are now coming out of China?
Callum Wearne
Callum Wearne - 8 years ago
@highvelocity123 I don't disagree with you there they have very good corrosion protection redundancies such as mercathodes, big anodes and special paint. Yamaha however is very lacking in this department. They think they can get away with the same engineering standards the use in their bikes
highvelocity123
highvelocity123 - 8 years ago
@Callum Wearne I'm a Mercury guy and from what I've read they use proprietary mix of aluminum.  I've owned Mercury's for over a decade and have never had corrosion issues. 
Callum Wearne
Callum Wearne - 8 years ago
@highvelocity123 And that is the most important thing a marine engine needs to be good at coping with in my opinion
highvelocity123
highvelocity123 - 8 years ago
@Callum Wearne I agree on that aspect, Yamaha has had corrosion issues that it has acknowledged...  
Callum Wearne
Callum Wearne - 8 years ago
I personally have found Yamaha's quality of engineering to be woeful in all aspects. Take for instance some of the structural bolts around the engine, Most of them are about 8mm in size and often wear out and break of their own accord due to the cheap aluminium composition of the material and strength work hardening qualitites. Yamaha for this reason is probably one of the worst brands of motor I have come across. The others are alright, sure they all have their own problems but not nearly as bad as Yamaha
Chris Armstrong
Chris Armstrong - 8 years ago
I think a better comparison would be to line all the 2 strokes up against eachother. Pro Xs Mercury. Vmax series 2. And Etec. I have nothing against this video but the only things I see Evinrudes against anymore are 4 stroke engines. Of course a 2 stroke is going to have a better top speed and launch...they're lighter, rev higher, and are just made to produce power.
BoatBuy
BoatBuy - 8 years ago
Hi,
What propellor size and pitch was on each motor?
Thanks,
Aaron
scm 969
scm 969 - 5 years ago
Very good job showing all this, but you're leaving out the propeller and pitch factor. You should do a test where they are propped to reach their maximum rpm exactly...let's say 5500 or 6K and then do the test....im guessing the Yamaha was over propped for this test....as it had the one of the highest speeds...therefore slower out of the hole but better top end...
Kamron Fultz
Kamron Fultz - 8 years ago
These are great vids guys keep up the great work.
Anthony sam Spano
Anthony sam Spano - 8 years ago
E TEC HEAP OF SHIT!!!!!!!
Richard Spengler
Richard Spengler - 7 years ago
Strangertothepublic How do you ride a e-tec 30?
Strangertothepublic
Strangertothepublic - 8 years ago
+Anthony sam Spano
I got the E-Tec 30 hp. Ride it several times a week, all year long the last 4 years, and no problems. Great torque for a 30.Pretty silent, Good fuel economy. What made you come to that its a heap of shit?
Nick Grigorakos
Nick Grigorakos - 8 years ago
Suzuki DF40hp $7,400
Weight L: 104 kg
DOHC 12-Valve Fuel Injection
No. of Cylinders In-line 3
Piston Displacement 941 cm3.

Yamaha 40hp L
RRP : $ $7,174: $6,480*
Three Cylinder (747cc) |
Dry Weight 97kg .....
Evinrude Etec 40hp $7,999
Number of Cylinders: 2
Capacity: 864cc
Shaft length: 20 inch (long)
Weight: 105 - 113 kgs
buncemaster
buncemaster - 8 years ago
i ran the same spec list and bought the suzuki. I love it
Jerry 的釣魚打龜日常
Jerry 的釣魚打龜日常 - 8 years ago
No replacement for displacement, really true for this.
Colton Howard
Colton Howard - 8 years ago
I have twin 627 Seven Marines on my Jon Boat. Boy does it fly!!!
sling shot
sling shot - 6 years ago
I bet that might go a little faster than my twin weed eaters i got i on my jon boat
Reel News OCMD
Reel News OCMD - 6 years ago
Chris Cross it’s a joke you dumb piece of shit
FSEVENMAN
FSEVENMAN - 6 years ago
Colton Howard something tells me you're a super douchebag
ramesh anand
ramesh anand - 7 years ago
You mean you have a Jon boat mounted to your twin 7 marines
Glenn Connell
Glenn Connell - 8 years ago
One factor that no one seems to account for. The 4 strokes will be still running long after the 2 strokes are flogged out and need replacing. Just a fact of physics, If a motor fires a power stroke every revolution compared to every second revolution its going to wear out twice as fast, a theory proven by the fact that you drive 4 stroke engines in your car and not 2 strokes and anyone who has ever had a 4 stroke lawn mower will tell you they last years longer than their 2 stroke counterparts, i've proven this a number of times, you make the choice power and so called same economy compared to years of useful service, you can't fool physics but you can fool a customer.
Gary Miller
Gary Miller - 6 years ago
Yes, Glen doesn't know what he's talking about.
Gary Miller
Gary Miller - 6 years ago
I guess that's why Evinrude with their 2-stroke is the only manufacturer willing to back their shit up with a ten year warranty. You forget about the cams and valves and belts that go into a four stroke. And I've been around a lot of two strokes from the 60's on up that are still running strong. But whatever you say...
Abolish Gun Control Laws
Abolish Gun Control Laws - 6 years ago
Explain all the xp rudes and xr/magnum Marc’s still running strong
William Anderson
William Anderson - 6 years ago
I've had 2 stroke johnson evinrue motors all my life they never failed me
Blue Collar Studio
Blue Collar Studio - 6 years ago
The NV dept of wildlife switched out their 4 stroke for all etec's at Lake Mead. They claim fuel efficiency, after seeing this, now I'm not so sure.
Adventure Fishing
Adventure Fishing - 6 years ago
Lololol
andrew hart
andrew hart - 6 years ago
Yes, the Metal quality plays a big part in Reliability. OMC went dodgy in the early 2000's by using too much cheap and poor quality Alloys in their engines and consequently paid the price for it. Bombardier know owns the Company.
Me Too
Me Too - 6 years ago
Had a '63 evinrude 65hp up till 2015 and it was ran 100% almost constantly for water sports. Have a 68 6hp evinrude tiller still going strong also almost always full throttle. So maybe the newones dont last but the old ones sure did
Bunsdad
Bunsdad - 6 years ago
There are a lot of 40 and 50 year old 2 strokes still running and many were not scrapped because of motor failure, electrical or trim etc. Do you think the computers for the Yamaha or any of these motors will even be available in 40 years? Except for the electronics I think that if you buy an E tech and flash the ECU to use double the oil it is designed to you will have the longest lasting (high throttle) motor out there today. There will be a bit more emissions but think about it. Tonnes of 70's 2 strokes still going because they were well lubricated but of course smelled.
g1243902
g1243902 - 6 years ago
2 Strokes will be going long after the 4 strokes eat their valve train. Once the old 4T needs a rebuild you might as well scrap your engine if your paying a workshop and that's if you can get the parts. On a 2T you'll need a few bushes and a piston with rings. As others have said, for 90% of people corrosion will kill the outboard long before it wears out.
Phlash Ashton
Phlash Ashton - 6 years ago
Agreed..... It is hard to wear out a outboard, our RNLI (uk) have their engines for about 10 yrs. They will rot out before they wear out..
ghostcell030
ghostcell030 - 6 years ago
That's not true at all. It all depends on how hard they are used. I've owned plenty of dirt bikes by 4 stroke and 2 and if you love working on your bike all of the time 4 stroke is the way to go if you like to ride and not worry so much about maintenance get a 2 stroke. Just look up the rebuild schedules for a KTM 450SX vs a KTM 250SX. VAve checks every 15hrs are required on the 4s.
John Givens
John Givens - 6 years ago
I think its all about how you take care of it. I have a 04 25h merc powerhead with a jetdrive so its wot alot of the time and it has a thousand hours or very close to it. Still runs great. I did break off the spring off of the thermostat and stick just the plate back in it. Aswell as put a bigger clear hose to be able to see any air bubbles. Replace the water pump once a year. It has been a AWESOME motor. OIL AND WATER. GOOD FUEL.
Dakota Swanson
Dakota Swanson - 7 years ago
James Island Fishing 56 evinrude sportwin 10hp and I also have a 65 Johnson seahorse 5hp
James Island Fishing
James Island Fishing - 7 years ago
Dakota Swanson that's awesome what kind of motor?
Dakota Swanson
Dakota Swanson - 7 years ago
And I restored both boat and motor by myself as well so i don't know what you're point is
Dakota Swanson
Dakota Swanson - 7 years ago
James Island Fishing what are you talking about I never mentioned you also I'm 15 as well and I got my boat and motor as a barn find from a family member that passed
James Island Fishing
James Island Fishing - 7 years ago
Gordie b Thanks!
James Island Fishing
James Island Fishing - 7 years ago
Dakota Swanson how? I took two vintage motors from a barn and restored them. I'm 15 and I restored 2 boat motors on my own and I'm proud of myself.
Gordie b
Gordie b - 7 years ago
That's a sweet rig!
Dakota Swanson
Dakota Swanson - 7 years ago
Glenn Connell pretty sure my 56 evinrude is still going strong and has never been rebuilt so all you are saying is absolute bull shit
James Island Fishing
James Island Fishing - 7 years ago
Steve Lamperta I have 2 classic 2 strokes. Ones a 68 evinrude 3hp lightwin I just got done restoring. I'm currently working on a 1976 Johnson 9.5.
Steve Lamperta
Steve Lamperta - 7 years ago
Well you haven't owned many motors im guessing. I own a 1954 10 hp johnson an it still runs like new and its never been apart. only had to clean the points on it. so there goes your claim...
Gordie b
Gordie b - 7 years ago
Isn't that what lubrication is for? Lots of ancient OMC and mercury motors around here still running strong decades later. Seems silly to claim the machine with far fewer moving parts would wear out sooner
James Island Fishing
James Island Fishing - 7 years ago
I have a 2002 Yamaha 70hp 2 stroke on a 15 Boston whaler and I've had no problems.
Fisher Adrian
Fisher Adrian - 7 years ago
My old lawnboy is like almost 30 yrs old and it ran great until the recoil broke.
Glenn Connell
Glenn Connell - 8 years ago
Yeah he's a fanatic, maybe when he updates his motor i'll tell him to check out the e-tecs.
Peter Hanrahan
Peter Hanrahan - 8 years ago
+glenn connell Half his luck. Mate I have seen pro woodcutters chain saws do 2000hrs between rebuilds, and they work much harder, and in a worst environment then a outboard. My old 1977 15hp evinrude id still going, been around the whole family, and getting passed down now.
Glenn Connell
Glenn Connell - 8 years ago
+Peter Hanrahan christ you dont go out much. my brother in law who is retired hits the water every 2nd or 3rd day lol. He would flog out a 2 stroke in a couple of years haha
Peter Hanrahan
Peter Hanrahan - 8 years ago
+glenn connell Most fishos will never wear a 2 st out. I use my boat at least twice a month for the day  and in 10 years its clocked up 350 hours.
Kyle Elefantis
Kyle Elefantis - 8 years ago
Instead of the 30HP you should of had a 40HP Mercury
Cliff Moran
Cliff Moran - 5 years ago
Jeffrey Jedlick you’re talking small outboards which this video pertains to, but the worst outboard Lower Unit in existence is the Yamaha F250/300 with its shit double bearing driveshafts. I rebuild lower units for a living and the worst lower is Yamaha by far
GeekedOut Gaming
GeekedOut Gaming - 6 years ago
Nailed it. These test are rigged. Evenrude did these rigged test everywhere. That yamaha probably has the wrong prop on it.
Eternal Thread
Eternal Thread - 6 years ago
Kyle Elefantis cause it's a barrel motor
Peyton Dardenne
Peyton Dardenne - 6 years ago
They wouldn’t have put a mercury because it would have embarrassed the e tec
Joseph Culotta
Joseph Culotta - 6 years ago
what do you know
Daniel Lockwood
Daniel Lockwood - 7 years ago
He wouldn't do that because it would have performed better than the evinrude, and had the same great reliability of the Yamaha. Both merc and Yamaha blow evinrude out of the water in reliability
dave bond
dave bond - 7 years ago
V3MD Yamaha is legendary reliability
going2stealyourchildren9974028
going2stealyourchildren9974028 - 7 years ago
or should've just replaced the yamaha
Duje Jelavic
Duje Jelavic - 7 years ago
Why...its shit....
Mirageman0373
Mirageman0373 - 8 years ago
big test woooooooo
flyingtigre1
flyingtigre1 - 8 years ago
great video... you guys are the best on the market so far, by far...
Black Cat
Black Cat - 8 years ago
it is clear that the Yamaha is poorly adjusted to the boat, properly setting up the 'trim' performance will improve. it seems that the comparison was partial.
Enny George
Enny George - 6 years ago
RC Kirby Recently, I believed Yamaha did some improvements on the 4 stroke 40hp in their latest generations.
Craig McTaggart
Craig McTaggart - 7 years ago
I agree you can't go wrong with a yamaha 2 stroke :)
RC Kirby
RC Kirby - 7 years ago
In America, Yamaha HAD the best 2 stroke 40 money could buy, then they went all 4 strokes and their 40 is the worst 4 stroke 40 in the 4 stroke market. I have been boating for over 40 years and I currently own a four stroke 20Hp Mercury and a 90 hp 2 stroke mercury. I do not believe a 4 stroke will outlast a 2 stroke. I seldom see a 15 year old 4 stroke on the water , while I see 40 year old 2 strokes all the time. The weight, power and now fuel efficiency of modern 2 strokes are wonderful. It all boils down to how you maintain your engine, 2 stroke or 4 stroke, I owned a Yamaha 2 stroke, it was a great engine!
Craig McTaggart
Craig McTaggart - 8 years ago
+Ed Feld's sounds like you own a Yamaha, yamaha are good for 2 strokes, suck ass for 4 strokes.
Evan Van der Bergh
Evan Van der Bergh - 8 years ago
Nice comparison! I was surprised with the fact that the yamaha didn't has as mach power as the other outboards!
Surfer Man
Surfer Man - 8 years ago
Where was Mr. Honda :)
danodano60
danodano60 - 8 years ago
I have been running Evinrudes for over 25 years. I got my 115HO in 2009. There isn't another brand in it's class that even comes close to it in performance or economy. In 2001 I bought a Mercury 4 stroke. It was pretty good as far as economy. The performance was terrible. I will never have a Mercury again.
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
@Mel Rose Evinrude didnt go bankrupt, OMC did which owned Evinrude and Johnson plus dozens of other brands, BRP bought the evinrude brand and continued outboard production, in 2006 they released the Etec
Don Olypopper
Don Olypopper - 5 years ago
@Mel Rose he posted he bought a 2009 so that was 9 years after OMC went bankrupt.
andrew hart
andrew hart - 6 years ago
Mercury 3 cylinder 2 strokes are a better choice. Powerful with good mid range economy. I still like Evinrudes also. Some of the Tohatsu's 2 strokes offer better then 4 stroke fuel efficiency also.
Mel Rose
Mel Rose - 7 years ago
danodano60 Did you buy your motor before Evinrude went bankrupt or after?
Sherrie h
Sherrie h - 8 years ago
who makes a 2016 20hp 2 stroke outboard
Fstarocka Burns
Fstarocka Burns - 8 years ago
"whadda cracka" lol
Kevin Pinkham
Kevin Pinkham - 9 years ago
I don't live down under but if I did you can bet I would buy from you . Great job on video .
sling shot
sling shot - 6 years ago
you can still buy from him and have i sent to your area for pickup
TIM Babbitt
TIM Babbitt - 9 years ago
Etecs cost more to purchase, enjoy buying that expensive 2 stroke oil. Everybody should know by now that 2 strokes wear out sooner than 4 strokes. Not Recommended!!
danodano60
danodano60 - 8 years ago
+TIM Babbitt I got a 7 year warranty with my Evinrude. I waited the 3 years. No problem whatsoever. It is the best running engine I have ever seen. I can also run off and leave those Yamaha's with ease.
danodano60
danodano60 - 8 years ago
+TIM Babbitt At 100 to 1 it uses very little. You enjoy all the oil changes and all the other maintance you have to do on the four stroke.
TIM Babbitt
TIM Babbitt - 9 years ago
+Brendon Hey Anybody that thinks the Evinrude is a better outboard is crazy! Nobody in there right mind would wait three years to change there great box oil, Evinrude sales pitch, crazy! You get water into that lower end and it will turn into junk real quick. I don't care what kind of oil you put into that lower end! Running oil in gasoline for lubrication is for cheap throw away engines, weed whackers! I'll keep my Yamaha thank you, I love it!!
Brendon Hey
Brendon Hey - 9 years ago
+TIM Babbitt coming from an marine engineer who is both etec certified and a yamaha bonze and silver accredited mechanic, what you have said is utter shit. yes 2/ oil is expensive, so are oil filters, 4/ oil changes and yearly services, as far as wear out quicker, im guessing you are tlaking about the fact that they may achive 3500 not 4000 hours?
Sergio Pereira
Sergio Pereira - 9 years ago
+Brendon Hey i know, but brp deliver this motor with this propeller or is a catalogue part, yamaha if you need have the same variety of stainles props. For me is not a good test and in spain little evinrudes delivered with ali props.
Brendon Hey
Brendon Hey - 9 years ago
+Sergio Pereira . im both a certified brp tech and a silver yamaha yech. i can tell you that all etecs come with stainless props from brp. no the dealer does not pay for them. yamahas have ali props on their smaller engines standard from yamaha. and no you would not want to have the same size props. manufacturers have different final drive ratios just as cars have different diff ratios. this means different size props are required to keep the engine in its operating power band.
Sergio Pereira
Sergio Pereira - 9 years ago
+Brendon Hey yes ofcourse, that prop is delivered by the dealer NOT by the FACTORY, if this test is for compare the engines the conditions have to be the same, same prop same height (is not the same), because the people dont know the capacity of havea better prop an better setup. i am wrong¿?
Brendon Hey
Brendon Hey - 9 years ago
+Sergio Pereira you mean the standard stainless propeller provided from the dealer vs the standard ali one on the yammy ?
Gudmund Malones
Gudmund Malones - 9 years ago
3:30 YamahaWonder why he is grabbing the handle for more throttle, or say it in another way - why not give full throttle like he does on the other three engines...what a laugh...!
Jerry 的釣魚打龜日常
Jerry 的釣魚打龜日常 - 5 years ago
I'm not surprise the bad result about Yamaha F40 for this test by it got smallest displacement in 4 stroke class. Suzuki DF40 was same block as DF60, totally different class btw.
sling shot
sling shot - 6 years ago
I bet the prop isnt the right size either
crowdcor225
crowdcor225 - 9 years ago
My experience with the E-Tech has been good. They beat out the competitors in terms of torque, thrust and hole shot. That being said, they are extremely noisy when compared to the four strokes, and the oil they use is expensive to buy.
Carlos José
Carlos José - 9 years ago
Só más o yamaha f40
blackvr4tt
blackvr4tt - 9 years ago
Evinrude Etec wins another comparison - best performance engine you can buy!
Sam Haveaguess
Sam Haveaguess - 6 years ago
Hard to see full results if motor where all not matched to the boats !! Correct trim and props just to start !! As with a lot of these reviews be aware of the minor details for accurate results!! If a company wants to sell you there products they will sway the results to there favour !! Just be aware of salespeople reviews is all im saying !!!
Mel Rose
Mel Rose - 7 years ago
blackvr4tt Great performers! Evinrude, first to the shop.
Paul
Paul - 9 years ago
I am a sailor, but that was an excellent review.
WarthDader74
WarthDader74 - 9 years ago
Well, I would have choosen the Suzuki in this case. The reason is that e-tecs are a lot more noisier than 4-strokes.
centrex600 centrex600
centrex600 centrex600 - 5 years ago
My Suzuki DF60A is quiet at idol but you can't talk to one another over 4600 RPM and that's on a centre console boat. They are still loud when you power up.
WarthDader74
WarthDader74 - 9 years ago
@Snub Gaming They are quiet at low rpm, but they are very much more noisier than 4-strokes at mid rpm and high rpm.
Snub Gaming
Snub Gaming - 9 years ago
He even said in the video that the e tecs are quiet like 4 strokes.
Laz N
Laz N - 9 years ago
i m saving for an etec fourty
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
@Peyton Dardenne do u even own a boat let alone an outboard, if you knew anything you would know the fact that the amount of money an Etec owner would spend on oil is actually less than the service required by their 4 stroke counterparts, did you think oil changes were free? Most owners dont do them on their own so tack on dealer labor to that
Isaac Sedgman
Isaac Sedgman - 5 years ago
@Peyton Dardenne you obviously have no idea what your talking about. I use mine every week end I top it up once every 2 months
foogly238
foogly238 - 6 years ago
@G webster Sounds like someone's butt hurt about someone talking down their gutless outboard. Obviously you've never heard of the abundance of 2-stroke motorbikes because they will leave any 4-stroke of similar displacement for dead. Both engines have their place in different functions, hence no more 2-stroke cars.
G webster
G webster - 6 years ago
Not to many two stroke cars on the road, wonder why that is?
Eternal Thread
Eternal Thread - 6 years ago
Korn Dawggy exactly everyone thinks they know it all I'm so glad brp was smart enough to keep evinrude 2 stroke
Korn Dawggy
Korn Dawggy - 6 years ago
Peyton Dardenne They hardly use any. I've had a 40 etec for 3 years. Not a single issue. Hardly uses any gas also.
Peyton Dardenne
Peyton Dardenne - 6 years ago
Laz N better save up for oil too
Redstern 837
Redstern 837 - 9 years ago
Well finally someone actually doing a test that isn't clearly rigged in favor of the 4 stroke.  It annoys me to no end when people claim that a 4 stroke is more powerful than a 2 stroke, when that makes absolutely no sense.  And then they run tests and let the 4 stroke win.  Thanks you for doing a legitimate test.
Don Olypopper
Don Olypopper - 9 years ago
Great video and real world comparison. No hype or BS, just head to head comparison.
Grim Reaper
Grim Reaper - 9 years ago
etec oil tell them about that 4 stroke are way better fatcunt
Richard E
Richard E - 9 years ago
Great review!  Nicely done and thought out.  A couple of things that would have been useful.  FIrst, you didn't mention if each of these motors had fixed or adjustable trim.  It appeared the Yamaha was trimmed down, relative to the others, so of course it would be more difficult getting out of the hole.  Secondly, it would have been useful to mention the MSRP for each of the motors so the viewer could get a feel for the 'bang for the buck'.  Other than that, wonderful job!
Brad Cordrey
Brad Cordrey - 8 years ago
wont that 40 yammy turn up like 6400 and go about 50 mph?
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 9 years ago
@Richard E Hi Richard thank you for the feedback. MSRP change all the time, that why we leave them out. Even as I write this prices will change because the Aussie dollar is dropping and that would have made the video out of date.

With regards to trim they all had electric trim. What has tricked everyone is the E-Tec's have multiple tiller positions which will throw you when you use that of a gauge of where the motor was trimmed. Just on that note having the motor trimmed at the lowest position will in fact get you out of the hole faster but slow your top speed because of drag. If you have a close look at when all 4 motors are running you'll see Daz trim them once they are maxed out on the plain.


As far as bang for buck the 30 E-Tec really surprised us .... now I'll let you in on a little secret. The 25 E-Tec is the same identical engine. Once the difference was the carby size and exhaust restrictors. But these days its all electronic just think rice racers and Japanese imports there's allot of motor just sitting behind a computer telling it how to behave.


So ...... what would be your best bang for buck?


I'd be calling us about a 25 E-Tec......... Seriously it has to be the best bang for buck outboard on the market.
larry white
larry white - 9 years ago
Hey I really want to buy a 30 e-tec but a yamaha dealer said the e-tecs get hot and run to lean a seeze up? what"s up... the truth please
Jason Aussiemusic
Jason Aussiemusic - 9 years ago
I run a 60hp Etec on a Polycraft boat. 95% of my boats operating hours is at idle/trolling ( crabbing ). My Etec has never overheated. Whilst the Etec will use more fuel at WOT than both the Yamaha and Suzuki 4 strokes, at idle it comes into its own using 40% less fuel than an equivilant 4 stroke. People complain about the cost of a bottle of Evinrude oil. I get 12 months out of a bottle of 2 stroke oil, which is a damn sight cheaper than a service on a 4 stroke every 12 months.
yamahaevo
yamahaevo - 9 years ago
@caloundramarine Google...
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 9 years ago
@yamahaevo LOL the only trolling I see is your comment set up to bait this audience. :-)
yamahaevo
yamahaevo - 9 years ago
@larry white Hi Larry, if you read any forum you want about boat motors and boats you will see some truth in your comment. Evinrude have some major issues right now, you can't use them for trolling etc.
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 9 years ago
@larry white Hi Larry look the first thing I would say is NEVER take advice from someone who stands to gain from it. We just present the facts as we see it. I'm not sure any engine manufacturer would be in business for long if their products had a flaw as bad as you describe. We don't bag Yamaha, we're on video saying they are a good lightweight engine, it's really up to you to decide what solution is best for you.
Sean Graffunder
Sean Graffunder - 9 years ago
Do one in the 50hp range if you get the chance would love to see it, would be more fair as as the Yamaha is at the top HP rating for that engine but the Suzuki and etec are at the lowest HP rating.That way their all evenly matched.
craigd51
craigd51 - 5 years ago
Lets do a 60 Hp test also, that way they can use the evinrude 60HO, there isnt a 60 horse outboard on the market than can touch the HO, the Yam guys would really be making excuses then
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 7 years ago
Hi Bob you're right. The thing is most people don't know this and buy on the number stuck on the back of the motor. To show this we put the 40HP next 30HP Etec. You can see the results yourself in the video;
Paul Jacobsen
Paul Jacobsen - 9 years ago
Good day....wondering what the dry weights were on the boats were. I have a 14 foot welded aluminum Crestliner that comes in at 654 lbs, plus two group 27 batteries a bow mount electric and was wondering if you would think the 30 or the 40 would be a better choice. I have a 20 hp Honda four stroke on it right now and it will not get up on plane with two of us in it.  Thanks
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 9 years ago
@Paul Jacobsen Hi Paul, weight only plays one part, hull design is the other. You saw the performance of the E-Tec 30 ... You could go either a 25 E-Tec or a 30 (They are the same engine block tuned differently in the computer) The 40 Etec shares everything with the 50 so it's a bigger engine.
Korn Dawggy
Korn Dawggy - 9 years ago
Good video.
gonzos6
gonzos6 - 9 years ago
How good propped are this motors?
The right propeller makes all the diference.
So that out of the hole and hole shot tests don´t say much to me without know RPM's at WOT to make sure ALL 3 motors are with the appropriate propeller for that boats/load.

Other thing is that the 3 motors on test are rated for 40hp but they really have 40hp??? (none have exactely 40hp on a dyno test) but usually evinrude have more power then is rated,

Nice video anyway.
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 9 years ago
@gonzos6 HI Gonz ... In feb we went over to the Miami Boat Show, and while we were in the US we popped into the BRP Factory to look at the line. We think you know what you're talking about with regards to HP :-)
Alex Heidi Morissugui
Alex Heidi Morissugui - 9 years ago
Make a comparison video of an Evinrude 250 HP 4 strokes and Yamaha VMax 250HP to see if the evinrude do so gracefully .
Alex Heidi Morissugui
Alex Heidi Morissugui - 9 years ago
ok, brother. Sacaná tsurí ikanai damê desu yô.
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 9 years ago
Hi Alex ... We'll do our best to show the results when we can get some models side by side. It's not as simple as you might think. Almost all dealers are aligned with one brand. (Us included.) and the brands and most dealers are not very keen to see their products put side by side with their competitors. For us to do these tests we end up having to purchase the boat or motor, and while we have the only living money tree planted in Daz's left sock it's only a small shrub and isn't growing as fast as we'd like. 
Alex Heidi Morissugui
Alex Heidi Morissugui - 9 years ago
Thanks for the tip , but as consumers want fuel consumption comparison, top speed , weight and price, the Evinrude , Mercury and Yamaha 2 strokes or 4 strokes respectively.
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 9 years ago
@Alex Heidi Morissugui Hi Alex Evinrude don't make a 4 Stroke 250 They make the G2 225 250 and 300 as seen on here in this review https://youtu.be/_vpsaFmxzEE (This is a G2 225 but we know it would impress you next to the VMax250)
devetdu
devetdu - 9 years ago
Look at the angle of the tiller you will see that e-tec + suzuki has the same angle and not the yamaha... Not good test.
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 9 years ago
@devetdu Hi Dev .... The tiller height can be adjusted on both the E-tec and Suzuki.
Simon Hall
Simon Hall - 9 years ago
I like your videos and yep of those four motors the 40hp 4stroke Yamaha would definitely have the least poke out of the hole with four blokes on board but in all fairness you probably should have had it trimmed all the way in like the other three motors when starting.
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 9 years ago
@Simon Hall Hi Simon, It was on the bottom pin.
jeoffer
jeoffer - 9 years ago
Nice work. I have an E-tec 50 purchased in 2013 and I cant speak more highly of it. Starts first time is quiet and there is no smoke. I am in a fishing club with about thirty five boats and the E-tec is quieter than any of the four strokes.
They say 3 years or 300 hours till first service but I was thinking of getting it checked over during winter. Do you recommend a service ?  I am in Melbourne so cant use you guys.
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 9 years ago
@jeff61 Hi Jeff it's hard to say without knowing your boating situation. How many hours have you done?
Martin Netušil
Martin Netušil - 9 years ago
Nice demo, but for those who likes silence on the water should't take evinrude.. cos just like every 2-stroke just rattles horribly... especialy those low HP ones.. It's just another aspect if any1 was wondering. Take care
Jamie Nichols
Jamie Nichols - 9 years ago
The Yamaha performed as well as it looks. Slow and ugly.
arborcidal maniac
arborcidal maniac - 6 years ago
yamaha is a very good reliable product, but if my life depended on it, it would be a honda, the kind of hours the coast gaurd puts on those things without engine failure is amazing.
sling shot
sling shot - 6 years ago
My carb motors will be around a lot longer than the new 4 strokes comeing out today. They dont make motors like they use to.
Davis Barnett
Davis Barnett - 6 years ago
Jamie Nichols oooooofffffff
RegressMeNot
RegressMeNot - 7 years ago
XD
Steve Lamperta
Steve Lamperta - 7 years ago
I have a news flash for you,...the carb motors will still be here and around for years to come. ive got a few of them an have no intentions of getting rid of them...
Wayne Wilkie
Wayne Wilkie - 7 years ago
They already have, they just showed it!
Feroz Khan
Feroz Khan - 7 years ago
Jamie Nichols mate Yamaha Legendary reliable
dave bond
dave bond - 7 years ago
Jamie Nichols you can't beat Yamaha legendary reliability
jordan bartholomew
jordan bartholomew - 8 years ago
Jamie Nichols also Yamaha is a four stroke, the evinrudes are 2 stroke, their getting out the hole faster. Don't just test them on how fast they are, test on gass and which one lasts longer, I will forever own either a Yamaha or Suzuki. Evinrude is crap, try to put a 2 stroke Yamaha against the evinrude to make it even. Evinrude needs to step up their game.
Jamie Nichols
Jamie Nichols - 8 years ago
@Howabouthetruth
The yamaha 40hp could have had a lower pitch for better holeshot. The suzuki would still out perform because it has more displacement. The yamaha is a 30/40 hp. The suzuki is 40/50/60 hp from the same block.
Howabouthetruth
Howabouthetruth - 8 years ago
+Jamie Nichols Oh yeah Jamie, I forgot to address something else too........They never even mentioned WHAT KIND OF PROPS & THE PITCH OF THOSE PROPS WERE. The type and pitch of the prop MEANS EVERYTHING in performance.
Howabouthetruth
Howabouthetruth - 8 years ago
+Jerry Chan My 2 stroke Yamaha 115 is also runs an old school carb, and I love it. It's the most dependable outboard I've ever owned, and I bought it new on a complete 17 foot bass boat package in 2004. The plate on the motor indicated that it was indeed built in early 2004. I find it highly fishy these all these so called "head to head tests" NEVER mention WHAT KIND OF PROP AND THE PITCH OF THE PROP IS on any of these engines. The prop IS EVERYTHING FOR PERFORMANCE. And different power bands of different outboards will absolutely perform differently with various props. If props aren't even considered in "head to head testing" then I say the test is pure bullshit. How the hell can anyone come to a good truthful conclusion when they don't even consider the props being used on each motor? YOU CAN'T.
Howabouthetruth
Howabouthetruth - 8 years ago
+Jamie Nichols I don't know about all the 4 strokes of any maker, but I'll take a Yamaha 2 stroke any day of the week over all the others. I have owned Mercs, Evinrudes, and when I bought my new Yamaha 115 two stroke, my days of engine problems ENDED. I also asked everyone I ever saw with a Yamaha 115 two stroke, and they all said the exact same thing. It ran & was far more dependable than any other motor they ever owned. Several dealers of MANY different outboard makers & boats told me you can't beat a Yamaha 115 two stroke & one dealer ( who sells every brand ) said he swears the Yamaha 150 HPDI 2 stroke is the best damn outboard ever made BAR NONE. But as far as what I have experienced myself..........you can have all the others, I will keep running my Yammy 115 and NEVER have any problems. Even when it was due for a new impeller replacement, the old one was just fine, but I had my mechanic replace it anyway, being as he had the old one out on the bench.........but it really was still in great shape. I told him to keep it for some poor soul who needed a helping hand and a good deal. I LOVED my 40 hp Evinrude 2 stroke and it had the prettiest exhaust note of any outboard I ever owned, but damn man, every time I turned around, I was having to sink more money into it. One of the cylinders had dropped and you couldn't keep a power head gasket on it. It needed rebuilt, and that was AFTER I sank all kinds of money into it.
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Jerry 的釣魚打龜日常 - 9 years ago
+caloundramarine I will hope to see it, great work! I have a Yamaha carb 115, really very good on power and really a oil beast.
Jamie Nichols
Jamie Nichols - 9 years ago
@yamahaevo My Yamaha is tuned for racing and it burns off all the oil. It's the cleanest 2 stroke that I have ever owned! The prop doesn't even have black buildup inside of the hub or any trace of oil residue.
Jamie Nichols
Jamie Nichols - 9 years ago
@caloundramarine I'm looking forward to seeing it. My little 30 has a few mods already, but I'm still looking for the 40hp carbs from a Tohatsu.
caloundramarine
caloundramarine - 9 years ago
@Jamie Nichols The Yamaha 30hp Carb motors are known as hot little racing engines stay tuned we've just done a review on these oil burners and bust open a secret Yamaha is going to hate. (If you are a yamaha lover you're going to love it ..... The carb motors are not going to be around for long when the legislation changes.
yamahaevo
yamahaevo - 9 years ago
@Jamie Nichols 2 stroke for the raw poer, 4 stroke for nature.
Jamie Nichols
Jamie Nichols - 9 years ago
@yamahaevo My old 2 stroke Yamaha 30hp performs better LOL
yamahaevo
yamahaevo - 9 years ago
@Jamie Nichols Did it all had the same prop? You dont know anything.
Shemp
Shemp - 9 years ago
Your mother goes to college
Alex Heidi Morissugui
Alex Heidi Morissugui - 9 years ago
@Jamie Nichols cc to cc and weight to weight hahahahaha

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