Lost "Baby Buggy Round Tail" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep. 47

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John F - 4 years ago

Hi Noel, I really like your reviews, thank you. I love my Baby Buggy and was just wondering if you could please tell me which of these two Haydenshapes boards feels most similar to the Baby Buggy: the Holy Grail, or the Untitled?

John F - 4 years ago

@Surf n Show Reviews no worries, thanks mate.

Surf n Show Reviews - 4 years ago

John F That’s a tough one... neither feel like the BB. The Untitled and HG are both a bit looser compared to the BB. The HG needs a Raked fin for it to go insane. I would say all three boards have their own feel and surf different. Sorry....

Jeremy Ryan - 4 years ago

Hey Noel! Just grabbed one of these in a swallow tail in PU. Was curious on your thoughts on a future fins for beach break waves in 3ft plus. I’ve been toying with the HS2s which have been great in smaller surf but I feel I am having trouble with a quick maneuver when to finish out my ride because of the combo with the swallow tail, especially when the waves start getting a little more punch. Looking forward to your feed back and thanks again for having these great reviews!

Surf n Show Reviews - 4 years ago

Jeremy Ryan Excellent... let me know how they go for u

Jeremy Ryan - 4 years ago

Thanks. I think I’ll give the F6 a go!

Surf n Show Reviews - 4 years ago

Jeremy Ryan Maybe try a Neutral fin like the F8, F6, or Jack Freestone. If you want a Neutral fin that’s a bit stiffer you can go JJF Tech Flex.

X -MAN X MAN - 5 years ago

Evryfing you say here is true.n.salas best show

KOSTAS GOULAS - 5 years ago

I rode Bb last year in 1foot wave and I returned it to the dealer because it was very difficult to catch waves in a small day for me with this board (it was about 27,8 lt and I am a low intermediate level) I got the pukas El loco 5.7 30,5 lt and surf a year. Now I find pukas rather big cause I am 62kg so I am thinking to go maby for lost short round 28.2 lt or pukas link 28 lt

KOSTAS GOULAS - 5 years ago

@Surf n Show Reviews every time I learn alot from your reviews. Cheers Noel!!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

KOSTAS GOULAS Sounds good... boards with a roundish nose will paddle better compared to the Babby Buggy type small wave performance boards.

John Martinez - 5 years ago

Very cool !!

Domingo Martinez - 5 years ago

Thanks for posting this review Sir . I just picked up a used one of these in mint shape 5'7 -19.19- 2.25 26 Poly and I'm 5'6.5 - weight 140 maybe you can please help me pick the fins - the RTM tech 1 large ? I just talked to Italo Ferreira and hes on the AM2 large I will def be surfing with a wetsuit 3/4 and boot and gloves cold NY winter on bigger days here . Best

Domingo Martinez - 5 years ago

@Surf n Show Reviews Thanks for the quick reply Amigo ! I bought the Medina fins last night online and just cancel the order after your advice ,ha ,ha anyways I ride the PC3 & UL3 with a 5'5 New flyer & a 5'9 K12 and just got the Performers Carbon PC in Medium for only $73 . can't wait to rid them with my Baby Buggy ! thanks again will def look for the AM fins .

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Domingo Martinez For your weight I say Medium at most. If your surfing hollow beach breaks then I would go AM1 or AM Medium. If your surfing peaky Beach break then I would go M Performers, or M jack Freestone.

DF - 5 years ago

Hi Noel, love the show and respect for putting in time and effort to ride and analytically breakdown boards feel and design. Currently ride BB in carbon and love it. Goes in anything up to 6 maybe more depending on steepness of wave. I'm 73kg 5'11 Advanced surfer and dims are 5'8 27.5 litres. Looking for something for when it gets bigger with reef days thrown in. Just wondering if you have any recommendations? Always ridden 5'11 to 6'2 boards and currently have a 6'1 performance shortie for when it gets bigger, unfortunately it feels too long these days after riding a smaller board :/ Need something a little more refined and controlled once it gets bigger. Currently looking at Lost Sabotaj or Beach buggy 2 which i know you haven't tested, would be interested in your recommendations based on boards you’ve tested. Im thinking something around the 5'10 5'11 mark. Thanks
Ps do you think Pyzel Phantom would be much difference to the BB in bigger steeper stuff? with its more refined rails etc

DF - 5 years ago

Thanks for the insight and speedy response Noel. Look forward to future reviews. Cheers

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

DF I think the Phantom would go mental in waves up to 7’+. Beyond that maybe transition to a Ghost. I would go custom on a Ghost and keep it short... mine was 5’9” in my review... if I could do it again I would 5’7”. It’s got incredible hold and very easy to surf for a HPSB. Where I live it’s not super steep so I think 5’7” would keep it super responsive and still have excellent hold. That’s my 2 cents.... another board on my radar for good hollow waves is the Lost Whiplash. Some of my friends swear by that board. Cheers...

Kavlatin - 5 years ago

Many thanks Noel for the great review.
I've been surfing the baby buggy SQUASH tail for the past 2 years.
I've seen great improvement in my surfing, it has helped me a lot.
I'm confident pumping and performing smooth cutbacks on 1-3ft messy mediterranean waves. Snaps are good but need imrpovement.
Do you think the same model as a ROUND tail would take me a bit further? or shall i stick to squash.
Thank again!
Cheers bud

Kavlatin - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews thanks, keep up the good work !

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Kavlatin A Round tail holds speed a little better in cut backs but they are both pretty fun in the surf conditions you mention. I would try something new....

Ardy Aryan - 5 years ago

Noel how do you compare this with V3 Stealth that you tested as well ?

Ardy Aryan - 5 years ago

You're awesome Noel! loved the new video , cheers

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Ardy Aryan I suggest trying a more upright fin before you get rid of it. FCSII I suggest the Reactors or Haydenshapes and in Futures I recommend the Haydenshapes. Cheers

Ardy Aryan - 5 years ago

thanks so much for the fast reply, I have the V3 Stealth and was wondering if this one would be more playful, I think i should have got a shorter board ( i got a 6'3) and it seems to be a bit hard to turn in the pocket in smaller waves.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Ardy Aryan The Baby Buggy Round Tail has more hold in my turns but it’s a little tighter. Round Tails offer more hold and drive through your turns. The V3 Stealth is a little looser and maybe a tad faster rail to rail but doesn’t hold the speed through the turns as good. However the V3 Stealth is easier to get loose and it’s a bit more playful.

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Dotan Paz - 5 years ago

Great review ! Just bought one yesterday. Which fins would you recommend getting for waist - head high waves ?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Dotan Paz I like something more neutral or upright. Because it’s a little low in rocker I want it to pivot quickly. FCSII I would Performers or HS PCC. Futures I would go Jack Freestone or HS1.

Jean-Simon Lamarre - 5 years ago

How would you compare it to the Quiver Killer with both having round tail?

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Jean-Simon Lamarre Sorry I have not ridden the QK yet.

Fernando Lopes - 5 years ago

Great one Noel. I’m riding a 5,10 Stock dims baby buggy and i’m felling a lack of drive, at both bottom turn or trying to gain speed at a larger wave section... I tried k2.1, k3 and tc red line fins... the tc felt better at drive bur made the board really hard at the top. I’m 6’0 85kg, 30 liters board. Paddling feels ok, no trouble getting in the waves. Do you think the kolohe large fins will get me enough drive without sacrificing a loose feel at the top??

Fernando Lopes - 5 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews I tried the tom carrol red line, that is a large fin and it gave me speed but sacrificed too much the release... tried k3 and it got mush.... Will try a larger fin with a different shape, Maybe I can get a better result.. thanks!

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Fernando Lopes I suggest a fin like AM Large or Mick Fanning Large. More Rake will give you more speed. You are riding Large fins right?

Chris Moly - 5 years ago

Thanks for the review, really broke it down with an easy to digest method, without bogging the mind with overload and ramblings. Subbed.

Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago

Chris Moly Yewww... stoked you like the review!!!

ucsdsurfer09 - 6 years ago

Hey Noel, awesome review as usual. I've been recently comparing this board, the CI Sampler, and the JS Blak Box 2. Just to give you a run around on what I'm trying to compare them by is exactly with what you mentioned in the beginning of a performance board feel for average/less than average waves. I'm more biased towards CI and have boards that would fit I guess I'd just call it a groveler which would be like my High 5, a hybrid/all around rocket 9, my go to (Fred Rubble), And more Perfomrnace (DFR, Fever, and Black and White). Where I'm trying to fit in a board that feels like the more performance type but doesn't have the hefty volume like the High 5 and a little narrower than the rocket 9. I noticed in a lot of your reviews the other way to go about it is take your standard performance and put "groveler dims" on them which I thought about doing but was seeing if any of the three boards mentioned earlier (Sampler, Baby Buggy, and Blak Box 2) you think would fit just as well without having to shell out for another custom since I can typically find these boards in my dims stock as well as used. Also if you have any preference if the other technologies of these boards make a difference (lost carbon wrap, CI flex bar, and JS hyfi). Thanks again Brother!

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

ucsdsurfer09 What size waves will this next board purchase be for?

Indra Gynell - 6 years ago

Round tail looks spicy af.

William Stewart - 6 years ago

Great surfing, Noel, and awesome review. My favorite mayhem all time is the sub driver (5th one is on the way!). Have you tried that one? I'm curious of how you would compare it the sub buggy and others. Thanks!

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

William Stewart The Sub Driver is on my radar for sure.... and so is the Pocket Rocket.

subluxeddesign - 6 years ago

Hey Noel any thoughts as to how the BB compares to the HS Untitled?

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

subluxeddesign The Round tail B.B. has more traction and drives through my turns a little different because of the tail design. Both boards are very fast and have a high performance feel to them. I think the Untitled paddles a little better. More foam under the chest.

MauiMax SurfSpearAndCS - 6 years ago

Hi noel, really enjoy watching the reviews, finally about to buy a new board and looking at the lost carbon wrap boards. Looking for somewhat of an all around surfboard to surf waves between waist high up to occasional double over head but mostly around waist to head high. I cant decide between a baby buggy round with regular channels or a carbon wrap voodoo child. I know u did a review on both and was wondering what u thought between the 2 boards. From the review it looks like both can get into smaller waves but im not sure wich will be better when the waves get a bit bigger or punchier or I paddle out at honolua. Any help is really appreciated, thanks

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

MauiMax I really like the Baby Buggy Round tail over the Voodoo Child. But that’s because I am surfing So Cal point breaks a bunch. If I were surfing punchy reef break my board choice might look a little different. Baby Buggy Round tail can handle 6+ surf and go good in 2’ surf too. That’s what I would choose. Bigger than 6’ surf I would get off the EPS BB and get on a Lost Driver PU. Cheers

elb2018 - 6 years ago

Hey noel, what would choose between this and spinetek fever in grovel dims for waves 1-5ft, mainly slopey but can get good sometimes. Also Which board is more friendly for someone that drives more off the front foot?

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

elb2018 fins are expensive... sounds like a good move going with the Fever

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

elb2018 The Fever in Spinetek would be epic and this BB CW is epic too. Both boards are user friendly and can go good for a front footed surfer. The squash tail on the BB will have more release. Sorry but I like both boards a ton and I cannot make your decision for you. Either board you will be stoked. Cheers

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R Watty - 6 years ago

Hey Noel,
Really good review with good tips about surfing, picking boards, technologies and what works.. glad I found ur site bro! I bought that Chilli Black vulture 50/50 last week and curious what you think since your into epoxy small wave boards, maybe give it a go, I told Paul he should give to you! waves haven't been good for me to give an opinion yet, but seem fast for the couple little ones I got on it so far!

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

R Watty We are stoked you found our show too. I did order the Black Vulture 50/50 and I frothing to get it. Hang in the... I have a few boards to review before we get that one going. Cheers and thanks for telling Paul about our show!!!

Itay Shechter - 6 years ago

Please do a review on the rusty T Dwart

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Itay Shechter Sorry That Board is not on the radar at the moment.... maybe if we get more requests for it.

o' neil Seifert - 6 years ago

Hey Neil again, I am looking forward to getting a custom board for small to medium waves but cant decide what length I need... I am exactly 177,5cm and weigh 67kg! do you think the following dimensions 5'8x18 3/4 x2 1/4 are good for me? and is the length so important? is there a big differce If I get a 5.8, 5.9 or 5.10

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

o' neil Seifert Not sure about the DIMS because I need to know what you have been riding and your skill level. If your current boards have liters on them please include that too. The length does matter on a board.... a longer board does matter and if your surfing 1-4’ waves then longer is not better from my perspective. I like my small wave a couple inches shorter than myself. I am 5’9” and my small wave performance boards are usually 5’6” or 5’7”. A shorter board fits better in a small wave when your turning in the pocket.

AJ J - 6 years ago

The BB suits your surfing alot Noel, very crisp and totally in the pocket. I have the BB in PU construction and I love it. I am an intermediate -advanced surfer (surfing 25 years +) and I went for a 5'11 (31L) and use it for everything. I'm 180cm and 72kg. I would go for a 5'10 next time as it has really raised my game and goes in everything from waist to overhead and holds a decent line in the hollow stuff. Hope that helps someone.

John F - 6 years ago

Thanks AJ J, It helped me.

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

AJ J Epic thanks for posting how the B.B. goes for you!!! Cheers

Truth Seeker - 6 years ago

What artist was on the last track?

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Sean W. Hanley The music is by Chris Karn....and the song man is at the end in the credits. Check out his tunes at chriskarnmusic.com

Adam Coyne - 6 years ago

That board looked so good under your feet....bravo amigo.

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Adam Coyne Cheers!!!

David Sweeney - 6 years ago

Top class surfing as always. THe B.B or the V3 stealth, what’s your pick Noel? You should do a technique series for surf improvement!!

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

David Sweeney Stoked you like the review.... more and more people are asking for technique reviews. We will see what the future holds.

Right now I say Baby Buggy over the V3 Stealth. Solid under my feet and I could push hard on every turn.

Pedro Ramos Pinto - 6 years ago

Hey Noel, cool watching you surf with the thumb tail! As always, A GREAT review, covering the most important details about the model! Looking forward for the "Ghost"... all the best for you

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Pedro Ramos Pinto Cheers... glad you liked the review.

Jlevorin - 6 years ago

Do you plan to make a redux review?

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Jlevorin Not in the cards right now. I think Nate Yemen’s just did that board. It was done by Surfer magazine. You should check it out.

Elmachote - 6 years ago

Do the Rob Machado Midas

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

The adventures of the Torres Fam I want too real bad... I will try to get my hands on one.

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Liam Rodriguez - 6 years ago

Chilli black vulture next please!!! Great review as always!

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Liam Rodriguez Cheere

Liam Rodriguez - 6 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews awesome Noel!

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Liam Rodriguez I have that board on order....

Ducati Drew - 6 years ago

Lol! I thought it was Slater surfing.

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Ducati Drew That is pretty funny

Chris Fan - 6 years ago

the show is getting better and better! love the bits of knowledge you throw in for us

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Chris Fan Yewww!!! Stoked you like this review.

Gil Behar - 6 years ago

Hi,
Your show is the best ..
bb vs holy garil ?
It’s look like the same range of wave
What’s the different for you?

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Gil Behar They Both paddle good but the HG has a little more volume under the chest area. So the HG paddles better.

Gil Behar - 6 years ago

Thank you,
What’s puddle bater?
You will go with the same volume both?

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Gil Behar They are both great and made to surf the same wave sizes. The BB I could push really hard in my turns and it great traction. The HG is really smooth from rail to rail and is very responsive. Two completely different rides. They are both fast too.

Luke Heath - 6 years ago

Awesome review!

Jakob Kaspar - 6 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews Oh really nice!!!

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Jakob Kaspar I have two Chili boards coming for review. Stay tuned.... I ordered them a couple weeks ago. The Black Vulture in 50/50 might be one of them. Can’t remember what I ordered.

Kohei Matsuda - 6 years ago

Awesome video Noel!!
I can see the difference on the wave clearly.
I was curious about channel. I’m gonna stick to normal concave board due to my local wave.

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Kohei Matsuda Epic.... I am happy that this review helped you out. Cheers!!!

tomm t - 6 years ago

Can we get a Firewire omni

Matt D - 6 years ago

Just recently started watching your videos. Absolutely love that you give unbiased & thorough reviews on relevant equipment. Thanks!

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Matthew Dearwent Stoked you like our show!!!

Julian Zook - 6 years ago

Really awesome idea to compare the same board with channels and without. I am currently riding a shortboard with channels and it does feel a little sticky, any large fin recommendations to help out with this, something to loosen it up maybe?

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Julian Zook Yewww. My pleasure!

Julian Zook - 6 years ago

Awesome, thank you very much for taking the time to help me with this, I appreciate it! Keep up the great work.

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Julian Zook I think you will really like the Mick Fanning. A bunch of my friends that weight 200lbs love the Mick Fanning fins. One of favorites for sure. See if you can find a used pair on CL.

Julian Zook - 6 years ago

Typically beach breaks and points of northern CA, I need to get some large fcs 2's or 1's even, I am just having a tough time trying to figure out what will be some looser ones that won't completely break the bank.

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Julian Zook With That being said I think a Large set f fins will do that board some good.,What is your home break waves like? Point Break or beach breaks? Or reef?

Julian Zook - 6 years ago

Yeah true but I am currently using medium's, Fcs 2. I'm about 200 lbs, I may just make a small trailer fin and see how it goes!

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Julian Zook Not sure a Large set of fins will help.... what fin system are you using?

Craig Steven - 6 years ago

Any plans to do their her constructions lost put out? Black dart etc?

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Craig Steven I am down to review it. Right now I am focused on their new models for 2018.

Nolan Isenhour - 6 years ago

Firewire SKX ?

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Luke Heath Sounds Sick... pick up my Custom SKX in XTR next week. Their constructions at XTR are EPIC.

Luke Heath - 6 years ago

Firewire Evo? Really interested to hear what you think about the Tomo MPH shapes. They also come in XTR for comparison.

Nolan Isenhour - 6 years ago

super sick can't wait for the video

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Nolan Isenhour I just got one!!! Coming soon.....

Inky Dinx - 6 years ago

do you think that the carbon wrap helps or would you just stick to a stringer

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

12,812,961 views For small waves 1-5’ I would go Carbon Wrap all day long.... over 5’ surf I would go PU.

Catch the Wave - 6 years ago

Another amazing review!
It was great to get some knowledge on the channels.

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Catch the Wave Cheers... glad you liked it.

Mathieu Revel - 6 years ago

The intro was really really good and instructive before getting into the board itself ! good job man !

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Mathieu Popey Yewww so glad you liked this review. Sick board... cheers

samuel charlesworth - 6 years ago

could you please do a review on the new holy toledo 2

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

samuel charlesworth I have something new from Sharpeye coming... not sure what it’s called yet. Could be the HT2. Cheers

imasaway1 - 6 years ago

great review Noel!

Blade Runner - 6 years ago

Excellent review Noel, as usual, we learn a lot by the way. the board looks interesting.

JBOsurf - 6 years ago

Love your videos. FYI, Taj's surname is Burrow, not Burrows.

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

JBOsurf Thanks

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Sergio De Anda - 6 years ago

This board reminds me a lot to the Sampler, looks very similar in the footage, great review noel!

elb2018 - 6 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews sweet thanks for the feedback.

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

elb2018 It feels more neutral too me. The OG and New Flyer are very back foot oriented.

elb2018 - 6 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews is it similar also that needs to be surfed off the tail? I’m having a love/hate relationship with my og as I think I drive off the front foot more than back. Sampler and black/white both work well for me

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

elb2018 Yes that’s a better comparison... both the OG and this B.B. will shred the same wave size.

elb2018 - 6 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews would you compare it more towards an og flyer range? Have had my eye on this stick since it came out

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

shortyyys Not really I think the B.B. has more rocker and it can handle bigger surf compared to the Sampler. On these Round tail B B I could push as hard as I wanted and these board gained speed.

shortyyys - 6 years ago

Surf n Show Reviews so you think a bbuggy with the squash tail will be more similar to the sampler in terms of traction amd overall performance ..?

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Sergio De Anda Yewwww... this board has way more traction off the bottom compared to the Sampler. Both boards are EPIC!

ncsam 000000 - 6 years ago

Been waiting for this review! Another great review man keep up the great work. This board works great on the east coast as well. I ride the baby buggy and it's one of the best boards for our crap waves I've ever ridden. Thanks again for the review

Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago

Sam Wells Cheers and thanks for posting. Your comment will help others have the confidence to pull the trigger on this epic board for small East Coast waves.

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