Overblue 44 | Motor Boat & Yachting
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10. comment for Overblue 44 | Motor Boat & Yachting
And btw, what he must have meant to design was a catamaran...lots of room, seaworthy, efficient
20. comment for Overblue 44 | Motor Boat & Yachting
Cool! i actually quite like that longer hull design over this one... makes the portion look much more appealing! Great work!
30. comment for Overblue 44 | Motor Boat & Yachting
"Hi Gentlemen,
We would be happy to explain the concept of Overblue Yachts to you over emails. The concept and engineering behind these yachts would explain and answer most of your points above and i am sure you would be pleasantly surprised"
I said;
'This oddity is a mixture of a pantoon and a houseboat and a catamaran and it can't function as well as any of them.'
And I still think this oddity is this.
["No one said that anyone said such a thing. It is the mindset indicated behind the reasoning and frail comparison you made with a houseboat." There was someone who said that....it was you in your comment above]
You already lost the track of the conversation. Now follow carefully;
I did not say that you said that this thing is superior because it was made by Europeans. However, I said that this is not superior because it was made by Europeans, because I know the mindset and YOU DON’T NEED TO SAY IT.
["Mediterranean Sea is not a calm sea just because it is smaller and away from tropical storms." That's why the boat is built for CE category B]
That's not quite relevant. Category B or not it is not much different than a houseboat.
["LOL! I did not do such a thing. I actually stated the fact that a trawler is INCOMPARABLY better than this oddity." And i'd say that this way of thinking is just plainly wrong because you don't factor in what ways to use different boat types in]
Then I should say that you don’t know what you are talking about.
["You can do that with a houseboat as well, then. What is your opposition to the idea that this is a houseboat which is common in the US and not a new idea at all?" Because the mediterranean is not a calm sea just because it is smaller and away from tropical storms and most normal built houseboats are not meant for cruising open waters/offshore. (At least the ones i see in europe are not meant for such things)]
Again don’t lose track of the conversation. Ocean going houseboats are built in the US as well. However they are still houseboats.
["Why not? If you can do it around the world you can do it anywhere. Beyond that trawlers do come in different sizes and shapes and prices, of course." That's true. But smaller trawlers have of course smaller space to live aboard while you're on holiday for example]
Not really a similar size trawler catamaran may have either equal or a little bit smallar space with this oddity.
["You are aware that there is a concept as “live aboard” right." You are aware that this is not true, right? Just look up the boat on the net and the builders homepage and you will see it is for now mostly used as charter boat in the Mediterranean]
LOL! If you don’t understand what is said please ask questions. You completely misunderstood what I said. There are trawlers designed to “live aboard.” Those trawlers are more accommodating than regular boats and they can function fully as a trawler as well without losing their open ocean functionality.
["A Journey Cat, a 47 foot catamaran has more than 658 NM range @ 16 knots. And it can accommodate two couples with ensuite layout in two state rooms. And it can handle rough seas way better than this oddity." That may be true. But a used Journey Cat 47 costs more than double of a new overblue 44. So you should maybe factor that in as well]
No I should not because that’s the whole idea. Instead paying this oddity and waste money on it for limited capability, you can pay a little more and get a true ocean going boat that will accommodate people no less efficiently than this.
[Of course boats that are double the price should fare better in various ways than their lower priced counterparts]
Of course, but it’s not only that. Most trawler cats are built with luxury in mind. If you can find a good builder and build a trawler cat with similar materials as this oddity, you may end surprisingly similar boat with this thing pricewise, as well.
["If you think a little you don’t live alone in this world and there are other people who really know what they are talking about and they can explain what they say in a meaningful and logical way even though it refutes what you claim, :)."
Sorry, but when people say things that you don’t like, assuming that they don’t know what they are talking about is the perfect American arrogance]
And, of course, calling someone who is European (at least not originally from the US) but lives in the US without even having a clue is the ultimate ignorance.
[If you think a little you don’t live alone in this world and there are other people who really know what they are talking about and they can explain what they say in a meaningful and logical way even though it refutes what you claim, ;)]
LOL! And for that the person who is speaking logical and meaningful should be able to support his claims with factual information. I am the one who refuted your claims by giving accessible information in support of my claims. In return you are the one who is making assertions, by which you accused me doing so.
So again, if you think a little (which looks like becoming clear that it may be a feat in itself for you) you don’t live in this world alone. There are other people who really know what they are talking about (After all, you can't even keep track of the conversation properly on who said what) and they “still” can explain what they say in meaningful and logical ways.
Also, if you claim that you refuted something, you should be clear in your arguments. There are ocean going houseboats built in the US that actually goes real oceans (Bravada Yachts), , not Mediterranean Sea, as well as the presence of the trawler cats enough to refute your claim that this is not a houseboat or a special oddity that can’t be classified as houseboat. Explain to me how did you refute what I said so far? :).
We would be happy to explain the concept of Overblue Yachts to you over emails. The concept and engineering behind these yachts would explain and answer most of your points above and i am sure you would be pleasantly surprised.
"Mediterranean Sea is not a calm sea just because it is smaller and away from tropical storms." That's why the boat is built for CE category B.
"LOL! I did not do such a thing. I actually stated the fact that a trawler is INCOMPARABLY better than this oddity." And i'd say that this way of thinking is just plainly wrong because you don't factor in what ways to use different boat types in.
"You can do that with a houseboat as well, then. What is your opposition to the idea that this is a houseboat which is common in the US and not a new idea at all?" Because the mediterranean is not a calm sea just because it is smaller and away from tropical storms and most normal built houseboats are not meant for cruising open waters/offshore. (At least the ones i see in europe are not meant for such things)
"Why not? If you can do it around the world you can do it anywhere. Beyond that trawlers do come in different sizes and shapes and prices, of course." That's true. But smaller trawlers have of course smaller space to live aboard while you're on holiday for example.
"You are aware that there is a concept as “live aboard” right." You are aware that this is not true, right? Just look up the boat on the net and the builders homepage and you will see it is for now mostly used as charter boat in the mediterranean.
"A Journey Cat, a 47 foot catamaran has more than 658 NM range @ 16 knots. And it can accommodate two couples with ensuite layout in two state rooms. And it can handle rough seas way better than this oddity." That may be true. But a used Journey Cat 47 costs more than double of a new overblue 44. So you should maybe factor that in as well.
Of course boats that are double the price should fare better in various ways than their lower priced counterparts.
"If you think a little you don’t live alone in this world and there are other people who really know what they are talking about and they can explain what they say in a meaningful and logical way even though it refutes what you claim, :)."
Sorry, but when people say things that you don’t like, assuming that they don’t know what they are talking about is the perfect American arrogance. If you think a little you don’t live alone in this world and there are other people who really know what they are talking about and they can explain what they say in a meaningful and logical way even though it refutes what you claim, ;)
“No one did say it's better just because europeans built it”
No one said that anyone said such a thing. It is the mindset indicated behind the reasoning and frail comparison you made with a houseboat.
“That's your assumption”
European chauvinism is not an assumption, it is a fact.
“The thing is this boat is designed for use in the mediterranean see and that's what it's good for”
Mediterranean Sea is not a calm sea just because it is smaller and away from tropical storms.
“You can get from port to port easy and in a reasonable time and still use it for staying the day in a nice bay. So it's a great boat for charter use or just to use it as a holiday cruiser to jump from port to port”
You can do that with a houseboat as well, then. What is your opposition to the idea that this is a houseboat which is common in the US and not a new idea at all?
“Comparing it with a trawler is like comparing a truck with a camper van”
LOL! I did not do such a thing. I actually stated the fact that a trawler is INCOMPARABLY better than this oddity.
“They are both good but for totally different reasons. A big trawler would be nice if you plan to stay on sea for a longer time and have to be independent. Like if you want to sail the norwegian fjords or scottish coast where you may not always have a decent port to stay overnight or refuel a trawler would be superior. But just for use in the mediterranean?”
Why not? If you can do it around the world you can do it anywhere. Beyond that trawlers do come in different sizes and shapes and prices, of course.
“Pretty sure the overblue would be a better choice for most users”
As a houseboat … probably.
“This boat, as mentioned above, is great to stay in ports and for holiday use”
You are aware that there is a concept as “live aboard” right.
“It may not be the best looking boat but i'm sure after seeing the video that it surely is good for the above mentioned purpose”
That’s the idea, it may be good for the purpose but, it is hardly better for the purpose.
“As for the longer range:
The overblue 44 uses 22liter diesel per hour while cruising at 14 knots. That gives an estimated range of around 590miles which may not as big of a range as big trawlers but keep in mind: 14knots is a pretty good speed that some trawlers don't even reach. If you cruise at lower speeds you can surely squeeze some more miless out there”
For that you have to compare this oddity with a trawler catamaran. A Journey Cat, a 47 foot catamaran has more than 658 NM range @ 16 knots. And it can accommodate two couples with ensuite layout in two state rooms. And it can handle rough seas way better than this oddity. A 47 foot Fountaine Pajot Cumberland has around 1600 miles @ 8.5 knots with 635 L fuel tank. And it has even more space than the Journey Cat. This oddity is just a houseboat, with some tweaks not enough to makes it unique. That's all.
“Sorry but just saying "Trawlers are better" just doesn't do the trick in my opinion”
Sorry, but when people say things that you don’t like, assuming that they don’t know what they are talking about is the perfect European arrogance. If you think a little you don’t live alone in this world and there are other people who really know what they are talking about and they can explain what they say in a meaningful and logical way even though it refutes what you claim, :).
Comparing it with a trawler is like comparing a truck with a camper van. They are both good but for totally different reasons. A big trawler would be nice if you plan to stay on sea for a longer time and have to be independent. Like if you want to sail the norwegian fjords or scottish coast where you may not always have a decent port to stay overnight or refuel a trawler would be superior. But just for use in the mediterranean? Pretty sure the overblue would be a better choice for most users.
This boat, as mentioned above, is great to stay in ports and for holiday use. It may not be the best looking boat but i'm sure after seeing the video that it surely is good for the above mentioned purpose.
As for the longer range:
The overblue 44 uses 22liter diesel per hour while cruising at 14 knots. That gives an estimated range of around 590miles which may not as big of a range as big trawlers but keep in mind: 14knots is a pretty good speed that some trawlers don't even reach. If you cruise at lower speeds you can surely squeeze some more miless out there.
Sorry but just saying "Trawlers are better" just doesn't do the trick in my opinion.
Hope my english was correkt xD