Pyzel "Phantom" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep. 61

No obligation, but if you want to support the Site and keep the reviews coming you can donate here. https://www.paypal.me/surfnshow In this episode I review the Phantom by Pyzel Surfboards. We get epic waves for this board review and the Phantom did not disappoint. This board is designed as a daily driver for waves that range from 2-7’. After testing it in waist to 1’ foot overheard I would say this board excels in these types of conditions. Jon Pyzel created the Phantom with the same DNA as the Ghost. The Ghost is a HPSB for waves that excel in waves in 4-10’+. The Ghost and Phantom both have their wide point front from center with extra foam under the chest for paddle assistance. They also have a relaxed entry rocker to help with paddling and extra speed down the line. The back half of both the Ghost, and Phantom are all performance and these two boards excel in the pocket and off the bottom. The Phantom is very user friendly and I highly recommend it for intermediate to advanced surfers. EPS Gremlin Board DIMS: 5’4” x 19.25 x 2.31 Liters 26.35

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No obligation, but if you want to support the Site and keep the reviews coming you can donate here. https://www.paypal.me/surfnshow In this episode I review the Phantom by Pyzel Surfboards. We get epic waves for this board review and the Phantom did not disappoint. This board is designed as a daily driver for waves that range from 2-7’. After testing it in waist to 1’ foot overheard I would say this board excels in these types of conditions. Jon Pyzel created the Phantom with the same DNA as the Ghost. The Ghost is a HPSB for waves that excel in waves in 4-10’+. The Ghost and Phantom both have their wide point front from center with extra foam under the chest for paddle assistance. They also have a relaxed entry rocker to help with paddling and extra speed down the line. The back half of both the Ghost, and Phantom are all performance and these two boards excel in the pocket and off the bottom. The Phantom is very user friendly and I highly recommend it for intermediate to advanced surfers. EPS Gremlin Board DIMS: 5’4” x 19.25 x 2.31 Liters 26.35

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X -MAN X MAN
X -MAN X MAN - 5 years ago
Hey
Im 1.82
What size u recomend for me with this phantom
6.1/6.0/6.2
Winter wave 2-5 fit.reef brak
Tnx
X -MAN X MAN
X -MAN X MAN - 5 years ago
@Surf n Show Reviews i can see that phantom look like fun and easy to surf.and the baby buggy too.this is what i see
Tnx fot the help
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
X -MAN X MAN I love the Phantom...
X -MAN X MAN
X -MAN X MAN - 5 years ago
@Surf n Show Reviews you help me tnx again.im going to buy this phantom for winter.6.1/35.cheers
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
X -MAN X MAN Your liter range should be 32-33 for advanced surfer, 34-35 go intermediate. So advanced go 6’0” or go 6’1” for intermediate.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
X -MAN X MAN What is your height in Inches and your weight in pounds. Use Google to calculate.
Water Dog
Water Dog - 5 years ago
Got the Phantom, your assessment is spot on. Excellent paddler, fast, and good range. Not a quad guy but curious to try with this board. Have you used AM2’s in a quad setup? Do you think they’d go as well as the JJ front fins you used?

Thanks
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Water Dog The AM2’s have a bit more rake. I say try them if you have them already.
Brock Bismire
Brock Bismire - 5 years ago
How would you compare the ghost and phantom to the ci black and white?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Brock Bismire Phantom and BW are a better comparison. The Phantom rocker seems a bit more relaxed and more user friendly. The BW can handle a bit bigger surf
Rhidian D
Rhidian D - 5 years ago
The best thing about these boards is how closely they relate to one another. So many shapers seem to shape individual boards in isolation so you end up with a groveller, daily driver, and step up that feel completely different to surf. Sure they might all work really well, but it takes a few waves to get used to a board every time conditions change. But with the ghost family each board flows into the other in a really logical way and preserves that same feeling so that surfing a gremlin in gutless waves feels weirdly similar to surfing a ghost in overhead surf. It seems so obvious but by shaping a family boards with forming the perfect performance-based quiver in mind, Pyzel is both lessening the transition between boards for customers and increasing the chances of repeat business e.g. if I buy a phantom and later on am in the market for a step up, the ghost is the obvious choice. Buy a gremlin for small days, a phantom or shadow for average days (depending on how high performance you want to be), and various lengths of ghost as your step ups.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Rhidian D Very well said and I completely agree. The transition between the boards in the Ghost Family is pretty seamless.
Daniel Garrett
Daniel Garrett - 5 years ago
Hey Noel,
I’m interested in ordering the Phantom as a daily driver and step down from my 5 10’ Ghost. I am a 50yo guy from Australia, intermediate/above average, fit and surf nearly everyday. I weigh 145lbs.
I’m looking at electralite finish.
I was thinking the 5”8’ 27.3L in stock dims,
Would you suggest dropping down to the 5”7 26.7L in electralite due to its better floating/buoyancy?
Cheers Dan
Daniel Garrett
Daniel Garrett - 5 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews - thanks Noel, that’s what I was thinking. Love ya work, Cheers Dan
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Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Daniel Garrett Yes,I would drop down to the 5’7”
APN Films
APN Films - 5 years ago
jeez where this dude getting all these quality waves?
Milan Kováč
Milan Kováč - 5 years ago
Noel what do you recommend more, PU or EPS ?? Thanks
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Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Milan Kováč 1-5’ surf I like EPS... 6’+ I like PU for where I surf. If you surf a lot of choppy surf then go PU all the time
X -MAN X MAN
X -MAN X MAN - 5 years ago
You look so good on this board.clean and clear
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Mika Westenberg Your liters should be roughly 27-28 for your weight.

10. comment for Pyzel "Phantom" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep. 61

Jordan Dylan
Jordan Dylan - 5 years ago
Awesome surfing. Looking for a new daily driver. Considering Neckbeard 2 and the phantom. What would you suggest? I have a gremlin as a groveler. Would make since to get a phantom but the NB2 looks mental. Thanks.
jack olas
jack olas - 5 years ago
Great review! What size quad rears did you use ? M or L?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
jack olas Medium
Brandon Gutierrez
Brandon Gutierrez - 5 years ago
What size would you prefer for my height and weight? I’m 5”6 140lbs. This will be my first short board and would love your opinion for my size. Thank you
Danny Dawson-Wells
Danny Dawson-Wells - 5 years ago
Hi Noel, about to order a Phantom soon. Can't decide whether to go for a Swallow tail or squash? I've ridden swallow tails before and always found them better fot the waves we get. Also a 6'0 or 5'11?
I am 6ft tall weigh about 80KG.
Excellent review by the way I've watched it about 10 times!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Danny Dawson-Wells Go with what you like. Maybe call the folks at Pyzel too.
101unz
101unz - 5 years ago
Is phantom a good pick for waves 4-6 foot point breaks.. Round or square tail for what I suggested? Between this and lost bb2.. Thanks
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
101unz Both boards will go mental at point breaks. I would choose a round tail over a square tail though... for these two models.
Fred Smith
Fred Smith - 5 years ago
Would you say this board is similar to an OG Flyer And which would you recommend as a daily driver?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Fred Smith I think they both fit the same wave range but liked the Phantom better.
Waxfoot
Waxfoot - 5 years ago
Just bought this board after watching the review about a hundred times... I figured that because I’m a baldy too , maybe I’ll rip like Noel haha :p

It was between this and the Lost Uber Driver,
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Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Waxfoot Sick Board!!! Yewww
Ricky Cole
Ricky Cole - 5 years ago
Hi Noel, some advice please? I am 51, 5'7, 73kg's, live on the South West Coast of Victoria AUST and would say I am an intermediate surfer. I have a 5'9 CI Grovellor 4 @ 30.5 lts and a 5'10 Chilli Rare Bird @ 30.5 lts also . As I am getting a little older and the paddling power is dropping, I was looking at adding a little extra volume into my board quiver for when I get out in the bigger 4 foot + days down here. The 3 boards that are really catching my eye's are the OG Flyer, Neck Beard 2 and the Pyzell Phantom at around the 31 lts + range. Am I on the right path and which board would you suggest? thanks
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Ricky Cole Pyzel Phantom sounds good to me. Easy to surf, excellent paddler, very fast. Adding 1 liter sounds good... I wouldn’t go much more then that right off the bat.
M J
M J - 5 years ago
Hi Noel, what size should i get for the phantom? i'm 5'11 and 170 pound. I have the 5'10 ghost at 27L surfing in Tahiti and i love it! Should i get the 5'8 phantom at 27,3L or i should go 5'9 with 28.6L? thanks for the review!
M J
M J - 5 years ago
@Surf n Show Reviews Cool thank you for replying so fast! I can't wait to see your next pyzel review, cheers!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
M J I would go 5’8”... roughly same liters as your Ghost.
D.G Lee
D.G Lee - 5 years ago
Hi Noel, always super thx for great review i do really love !
Would plz give me a little tip for size?
im 6.1 / 185lb
i got ghost 6.2 it feels awesome
now i consider between 5.11 and 6.0 or other size phantom.
what do u think? which one is the best for me in your opinion.
thx again happy new year !
D.G Lee
D.G Lee - 5 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews thx a lot !cheers
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
D.G Lee I think your safe with a 6’0” Phantom... if your a advanced surfer then you could go 5’11”.

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JBOsurf
JBOsurf - 5 years ago
I've watched most of your reviews and this board is by far the best I've seen you ride. Ordering one.
Jeff Hiebert
Jeff Hiebert - 5 years ago
Big fan of your reviews. Bought a couple boards because of them. Keep it up.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Jeff Hiebert Cheers
Andrew Kakalia
Andrew Kakalia - 6 years ago
Ripping!
Having Fun
Having Fun - 6 years ago
Dane Reynolds fins size? On the video you say they are medium, but on the comments below you said they were large.... So which one were they?
Thanks.
Having Fun
Having Fun - 6 years ago
@Surf n Show Reviews cheers Noel. I'm getting a phantom this week. Thanks for the great review and keep them coming.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Having Fun Sorry for the confusion the DR fins I used are Large.
Alessandro Alpago
Alessandro Alpago - 6 years ago
Hi Noel, I am buying the Phantom 5’11 stock dim in EPS construction. I am 5’10, 183 lbs, good surfer. The board has 31 L. I’ve different boards in my quiver and with this one I am looking to surf at 3-6 ft punchier beach break in OB (SF), Bocas del Toro, Costa Rica, France and Portugal. Should I shave off 1/2 liter or 31 L is a good number? I recently surfed a Sci Fi 5’10 at 30.7 lt in a Point Break in Portugal and felt great under my feet. Thanks and keep up with the great work u are doing
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Alessandro Alpago The waves your talking about can get pretty round. San Francisco I would want a PU.... if your surfing hollow beachies with power and wind then maybe reconsider PU. If you go EPS then yes you can shave 0.5 liters.
Yarai Mendez
Yarai Mendez - 6 years ago
curious on how you think the phantom compares to the holy grail?
Yarai Mendez
Yarai Mendez - 6 years ago
@Surf n Show Reviews sweet thanks was kinda stuck between the 2 as a new board
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Yarai Mendez The Phantom feels like it has a bit more rocker and traction off the bottom, so it can handle a little more size and hollow surf. The Phantom is easier to surf too.
Mark Chataway
Mark Chataway - 6 years ago
Noel epic review mate!
I live in Bali and want to order a custom Phantom, I think it will go great for a lot of the waves we get here in the Canggu area, and will fit in nicely with my good-wave board JS Monsta 6, and my groveler JS Blak Box 2.
My one concern is with the construction/durability. At the Pyzel factory here in Bali I believe the only construction option is standard PU (I prefer the feel of PU to Epoxy anyway), and I know you were riding yours with team light glassing, but since I'm ordering a custom do you think standard PU with standard 4x4x4 glassing will be durable enough so that the deck doesn't get all compressed in and can handle a fair bit of air travel, riding around on the side of my scooter etc?
Lastly, the quad setup you were riding it with looked great, we have FCS 2 down here, what FCS 2 quad fin setup would you recommend to match what you were riding here in Futures?

Thanks heaps mate and keep up the great reviews I love em! :)
Mark Chataway
Mark Chataway - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews Hi Noel I’m about to order a custom Phantom here in Bali and just trying to decide on the dims, I’m thinking PU construction at either 5’10” 30.1L or 5’11” 31L, maybe it’s splitting hairs haha but just wanted to quickly drop you a line and see if you had any thoughts because I’m a little nervous about under-voluming. My current good wave shortboard is a JS Monsta 6’2” 30.2L.
I’m about 171lbs and 6’1” and am intermediate surfer but very paddle fit from surfing every day here.
Thanks mate you’re a legend and keep up the amazing reviews, they’re a huge contribution to the surfing community :)
Mark Chataway
Mark Chataway - 6 years ago
@Surf n Show Reviews awesome Noel thanks for the quick response mate!
Can't wait to get my new Phantom! :)
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Mark Chataway The Stock PU will be fine... I think PU feels great under foot but it doesn’t last me long. The FCSII set up the will work similar is Large Performer or Gabriel Medina side fins and Medium Reactor Quad Rears or Performer Quad Rears.
david b.
david b. - 6 years ago
what Band does the 1st song ?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
david blankenship Chris Karn Music. Chriskarnmusic.com
FREEDOMEDIA
FREEDOMEDIA - 6 years ago
GOAT turn at the 8:50 mark
FreeDom Now
FreeDom Now - 6 years ago
Oh and what construction would you get in the phantom Noel?? I've been riding my mod pod as a quad, love it, think leaning to phantom now and set up as a quad. I have jjf mediums, ea black stix, AM 2, Alpha fins for quad, what do you think the EA blacstix would go like in the phantom Noel?
FreeDom Now
FreeDom Now - 6 years ago
Thanks again Noel, I'm definitely thinking buy the phantom for punchy days and take to Indo with stepup board too, keep riding my mod pod in the slow fat days.. I like the review on the rocket wide eps too, might get that as well, all the best, and keep those reviews coming they help so many people....
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Domonique Ascension Gateway If your going to ride that Phantom in waves ranging 2-5’ then I would go EPS. If you surf a bit bigger, hollow, choppy surf then go PU.

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FreeDom Now
FreeDom Now - 6 years ago
Hey Noel, awesome review as always. Just a question, after your reviews on the Holy Grail and chatting to a guy on a HG I was definitely getting one, but I got a demo and took it out in 3ft sort of slow waves. Board was as you say fast, easy paddler, but I found on my backhand when always doing a drawn out turn, it would nearly stop. It went awesome in the pocket but out on an open face didn't want to bounce back like my Mod Pod say. To be honest most waves in my area are more full and slower, but do get great steep punchy waves too but only once every 10 surfs. I'm now thinking phantom looks more suited for all types of waves, thoughts please Noel?? Have brought the sampler and the pod mod from your reviews and have been spot on.. Sorry long message, but spending 1k HG got to get it right..
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Domonique Ascension Gateway Yewwe
FreeDom Now
FreeDom Now - 6 years ago
Your a champion Noel for getting back so quick as always, it's a credit to you. I'm thinking just stick with pod mod on slow days and when it is punchy take the phantom out, keep up the great work Noel...
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Domonique Ascension Gateway The Sampler and PM have less rocker compared to the HG so they will go way better on a slow flat wave. I think the Phantom will struggle on that wave too. I suggest CI’s new Neck Beard 2, or the Pyzel Gremlin. The NB2 review drops in 3 days....
Alexandre Arquembourg
Alexandre Arquembourg - 6 years ago
Great review as always. You should make an episode about some smaller bu well know shaper like Tim Stamp, or even some soft tops like Catch Surf or Buell. That would be fun. Cheers!
onespeed
onespeed - 6 years ago
8:56 that second cutback is the best i've ever seen.
Kohei Matsuda
Kohei Matsuda - 6 years ago
Hi Noel
Dane Reynolds fin is better (playfulness ) than John John fin?
Kohei Matsuda
Kohei Matsuda - 6 years ago
Thank you
I’ll try new epoxy JJF fin!! Previous model was bit stiffer.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Kohei Matsuda The JJF has less rake... so it pivots faster. I wouldn’t say it’s better than the DR fins.... they draw different lines. If your board feels tight then the JJF template will help your board turn faster. If you surf a lot of beach breaks then the JJF fin will get you vertical in the pocket faster. If you surf a lot of point breaks then you might like the DR fins better... open face waves with more room to carve.
Paul James
Paul James - 6 years ago
What would you say about ordering it with a round tail instead of the squash ? I'm always a bit afraid with "wide" squash tail. I surf in Hossegor mostly, and we have a bit of everything, it can be a bit mushy, it can be very steep, size is rarely more than 6-7 feet and when it is, it is too hard to evolve in the water as it often gets very hollow and dangerous (without even talking of the currents) for non pros. This is why The Phantom looks like a perfect board, but I would be tempted to get the round tail to hold steeper faces without loosing the "daily driver" aspect of the board. The only real downside to the round tail would be to have more difficulty for tighter arc I guess ? am I right ? but is it very different ?
Thanks for everything Noel, I always recommend your show to friends who think about changing boards.
Paul James
Paul James - 6 years ago
Cheers, that sounds like my new board then :)
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Paul James The Phantom has less entry rocker but more belly and tail rocker compared to the OG. The Phantom is easier to surf and a bit more radical in the pocket.
Paul James
Paul James - 6 years ago
Thanks for the great answer. How would you compare the OG Flyer to the Phantom, because for the size I would need (6'2 - 6'3) they have the same dimensions and they look pretty similar. Thanks again
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Paul James A Round Tail sounds good for your waves. The around tail will do Sick arcing turns but it will struggle to go vertical. Round tail boards want to carve and do more round turns... a Squash Tail enables you to pivot off the rounded corner as the breaks off the water. Water adheres to curves that’s why the round tail holds so good.
JorgeAndresCoppiano.
JorgeAndresCoppiano. - 6 years ago
Hey Noel! Great surfing and review!

Sampler or Phantom?
5’11” x 20 x 2 1/2
32lts PU

I am 179cm tall and weight 185-190lbs
For 1 foot to shoulder high conditions
JorgeAndresCoppiano.
JorgeAndresCoppiano. - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews great thanks man!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
JorgeAndresCoppiano. I think for 1-3’ surf I would go Sampler. The Phantom is more of a Daily Driver for waves ranging 2-7’+.
FLlacrosse85
FLlacrosse85 - 6 years ago
Ripping as usual man. Trying to decide between baby buggy round or the phantom as a daily driver, both of your reviews for these boards are super positive, but do you have a particular preference? I have a grovel board if that alters your insight at all
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
FLlacrosse85 The Phantom is easy to surf and surfs as good as any HPSB. I would go Phantom.
Blake Frenkiel
Blake Frenkiel - 6 years ago
Rocket wide / Phantom / Ghost??
Azores Surf School
Azores Surf School - 6 years ago
totally haha
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Blake Frenkiel That’s a sick 3 board quiver.
Paul Lacroix
Paul Lacroix - 6 years ago
Hi Noel, thanks for the show! Very interesting as always! I'm looking for a 6.0 and i'm hesitating between a Monsta Box Hyfi and a Phantom. Programs look similar for both boards. The idea is to get a daily fun board I can travel with for medium to good conditions. I'm 6.0 /190lbs. From what I understood the Phantom's might have an higher ceiling? Thanks!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Paul Lacroix Correct... the Phantom is epic in 2-7’+ surf and paddles very well. The MB is more for 2-5’ surf. The range on the Phantom is better... both boards are epic!
Manoel Griesbach
Manoel Griesbach - 6 years ago
Noel you are topline! I m from Brazil, here we have most beach breaks. I m 5,9 178 lbs! What do you think would be better for me to surf 2-5 feet beach break focus in surf at poquet: 5,8 Psycho Killer carbon wrap (lost) or 5,9 Phanton (Pyzel)? tnk
BAP
BAP - 5 years ago
Manoel Griesbach what did you get in the end?
Bon Summers
Bon Summers - 6 years ago
I wonder how the Stubby Bastard compares to this. Phantom seems too wide, Ghost seems too narrow tail. I get the sense Stubby Bastard has the 'just right' in-between elements for most versatility for general SoCaL conditions,… and for 'going square off the bottom' with carry through drive.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Bon Summers The Pyzalien looks good too.
surfrelax82
surfrelax82 - 6 years ago
Noel, i’m enjoying your reviews, comments and surfing skills so much! Please help me with my next level board.
I’m riding a Puddle Jumper 5.9 – 37 liters now and want to keep it as groveler.
I’d like to get a easy every day board for next step 2-6+ Waves and was thinking about Lost UD or Phantom. what board size and liter do you suggest? (intermediate 6 Weeks a year surfer, 184cm, 69kg,) thanks!!!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
surfrelax82 I recommend the Phantom... maybe the 6’2” at 35.90 liters.
Mika Heikkilä
Mika Heikkilä - 6 years ago
I've been surfing 5 years almost every day. Started with 8 feet board, then 7, then 6.8.Now I have 6.2×20/34×2 5/8. Surf 2-8 waves and on a good day can do all the maneuvers except aerials. I'd like to go smaller again and have a first real shortboard with proper size for me. I'm 5.9 and 170. Pantom looks nice. CI Fever too. Or some other board? What size you recommend for me?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Mika Heikkilä Yes the OG is good too but the Phantom paddles better and it’s easier to surf.
Mika Heikkilä
Mika Heikkilä - 6 years ago
@Surf n Show Reviews Thank you! I'm gonna get one for sure if I find one. I could get 5.11 OG Flyer for very good price. Would that be good option for me too?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Mika Heikkilä Your Board is way to big for your size and weight. If you can do all the maneuvers then you should be around 30 liters for intermediate. Advanced surfer for your weight and height 27-28 liters. The 5’10” Phantom is perfect and that’s what I recommend. Cheers
Mika Heikkilä
Mika Heikkilä - 6 years ago
@Surf n Show Reviews 6.2 is 36 litres squashtail. It is easy to paddle but bounces on the water surface and slides out on big wave fast speed. And turns slow on small waves. And weetspot is so far front that my stance is too wide or I have to shufle my feet too much. Sorry my bad english. Thank you for quick reply. I'm in Bali and want new board to progress. I hope some day can have the flow, speed and style like you..
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Mika Heikkilä What are the liters on your 6’2”?
Kohei Matsuda
Kohei Matsuda - 6 years ago
Thanx Noel for good review. Next board will be phantom.
But why did you choose eps rather than pu?
In general, eps is lighter therefore when wind starts blowing, take off can be hard. In small condition, it will be appreciated.
Personally I prefer pu because EPS is too responsive for me.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Kohei Matsuda I like the pop or snap I get out of EPS. This board in PU would be great too. I say go PU and this board will go better in bigger surf.
Stephen Kilty
Stephen Kilty - 6 years ago
Hey Noel,

Great view. Board looks awesome under your feet in each transition. If you were to have this with the fcs2 configuration what would be a comparable fin you would use?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Stephen Kilty For a Quad in FCSII I would go KA Large side fins with Medium Reactor Quad Rears. For Thruster I would go KA Large.
TdTbMp
TdTbMp - 6 years ago
Noel great review again. Which board felt better the 5’6” gamma reg dims or this phantom 5’7”? I’m trying to decide between the two. Thx
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
TdTbMp The Gamma needs a good wave to go good and it not very user friendly. I really like the Gamma as it suits my surfing.

The Phantom is easier to surf with great HPSB abilities and it will go good in 2-7’ surf. It had fun on it in 2-3’ surf too. I would go Phantom.
Tim Young
Tim Young - 6 years ago
Hey noel for 3-6 ft surf would you recommend the squash or round tail?
Tim Young
Tim Young - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews thanks
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Tim Young I like the Squash for So Cal waves but if I lived in HI then I would go round Tail.
R V
R V - 6 years ago
Hey Noel. Always love your reviews. I'm considering picking up the Phantom for my trip to indo since I'll likely only take 1 board due to airline fees per board. I figured this board in the round tail would be the best all around board for my trip. (Will have to go out in smaller surf with my girl) What do you think? This board a good call or do you have a better all around board you would take? Thanks for the help!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
R V You choice with the Phantom as a Round tail sounds good to me.
-Prem
-Prem - 6 years ago
Awesome review Noel! They have both round tail and squash at the factory on the North Shore. When would you choose a round tail on the Phantom over the squash? What conditions? Thanks!
-Prem
-Prem - 6 years ago
Always appreciate the input Noel! Much respect!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
-Prem The Round tail offers more hold because water adheres to curves. You might want a Round tail for big carves and good drive through your turns. Might be good in those punchy reef breaks. In smaller waves here in CA I would go Squash in HI I might want a Round tail for the power there.
rippert
rippert - 6 years ago
Noel,
Compare JS Monsta Box with Phantom for 4-6ft? Thanks as always you rock.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
rippert My pleasure
rippert
rippert - 6 years ago
Thanks Noel for the detailed reply, it really helps in decision making. These things are not cheap!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
rippert No comparison for me... the JS Monsta Box is epic in 2-5’ surf beyond that it starts to get a little skiddish off the bottom. The Phantom handles 2-7+ with no problem due to its tail rocker. I think the MB will be faster in 2-4’ surf but the Phantom will out perform it in the pocket in 3-7’ surf. Both boards are sick though....

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S Murray
S Murray - 6 years ago
Question for you Noel. Pyzel says to ride this board around your height, but that would put me at many liters over my typical HPSB volume, and actually over my groveler volume as well. I noticed you rode yours shorter. I'm around 190-200 (depending on the beer drinking season), decent shape, and I'm 6'3. My typical volume averages around 32, MAYBE 33. The Phantom in stock dim 6'0 is 32.60 liters... should I ignore the "ride your height" and go shorter? I want to keep a board that will fit in the pocket when it's decent here in FL. I find my 6'3 V2 Shortboard by Lost gets hung up a lot when I try to push it and it's not way overhead.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
The Stock 6'0" Phantom at 32.60 liters sounds good.
Simon Durkin
Simon Durkin - 6 years ago
Thanks Neil, great review. Based on your testing with Futures, what FCS2 set-up would you recommend?
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Simon Durkin I agree... the Ghost needs a wave to go good....
Simon Durkin
Simon Durkin - 6 years ago
Thanks Neil. Ive got the Performers and will give them a go. As you are a big fan of the KA, I'm going to buy a pair of them too. I'll report back. BTW I have a Ghost too. I question their respective ranges. Ghost for me is 4 to 5ft+, smaller go the Phantom.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Simon Durkin You could go with the KA, or Performers side fins and the Reactor Quad Rears for you Quad set up. For a Thruster I would go KA, or Performer in Large. Cheers
Alex Wender
Alex Wender - 6 years ago
Noel, great review! I just got the phantom, feels a bit tight with the JJF fins size M. What fins would you reccomend to loosen up the feel a bit? I'm about 5'10 170lbs.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Alex Wender Sounds good... I would call around too.
Alex Wender
Alex Wender - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews I was checking out finatic.com Not sure if any shops around here do fin trials? I'm in San Diego.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Alex Wender Any chance you can try before you buy?
Alex Wender
Alex Wender - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews I will give them a try, thanks!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Alex Wender yes
Alex Wender
Alex Wender - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews thanks for the reply! Are the Haydens you are referring to the HS1?
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Alex Wender You could go with a more upright fin to loosen it up a bit... the Haydenshapes or the WCT fins. If you go upright then I recommend trying a Large in the Hadenshape fins so you still have speed.... the WCT fins only come in Medium.
Karl Jakobsson
Karl Jakobsson - 6 years ago
Hi Noel. Big fan of your videos. Have another one of the “this vs. that” questions that you get a lot, and they are very helpful for comparison. How would you describe the difference between the CI OG Flyer vs The Phantom ?

I’m looking for a daily driver in smaller 3 or 4ft conditions that are a bit faster then your local, I’m in oz but maybe more like blacks for comparison. Which board is more user friendly and paddles into waves easier?

I have demoed a 6’0 stock OG Flyer a few times now and really liked it. Did not think it paddled great in bigger slower waves but easy to take drops so could just sit s bit deeper.

Ps. My favourite all time board is the Pyzel Stubby Bastard, have it both in PU and Epoxy.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Karl Jakobsson They Both have low entry rockers. The Phantom seems to have more tail rocker.... so a little more HP feel.
Karl Jakobsson
Karl Jakobsson - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews Thanks Noel! Much appreciated. Sounds like the phantom is more similar to the Uber Driver. Guessing UD has a tad more nose rocker perhaps.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Karl Jakobsson The Phantom has more foam under the chest and a fuller outline on the front end of the board. The center of the board to the tail silvers like a HPSB. Great combo for the wave size you described. I say Phantom over the OG.
Chris Fan
Chris Fan - 6 years ago
Hey Noel, would you say the phantom and the rocket 9 are similar? On paper they have nearly the same dims on paper. The also both have lower nose and higher tail rocker. Seemed like you liked the phantom lots more... Any insight on this? Thanks!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Chris Fan The Phantom has more foam under the chest and front foot... so it paddles better and the Phantom has way more speed. The Rocket 9 lacked speed as a Thruster but had good speed with the 2+1 set up. The Phantom seems to have a little more tail rocker... so more traction off the pocket and a little more surface area in the tail makes it super fast. The Rocket 9 has a pulled in tail for performance but I think because the tail is so pulled in that it lacked surface area to give it that down the line speed unless I used the Twin fin set up. Others might disagree with me... a lot of people swear by the Rocket 9.
Javier Hernando Rodriguez
Javier Hernando Rodriguez - 6 years ago
Hello Noel, thanks for your amazing review! The Phantom is comparable with the Firewire Gamma ?. If so, what do you think is a better option? Thank you so much!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Javier Hernando Rodriguez The Ghost can handle much bigger surf because of the Round Pin Tail. I would say the Phantom and Gamma are a better comparison.
Javier Hernando Rodriguez
Javier Hernando Rodriguez - 6 years ago
Thanks for the quick answer. The Gamma would be more comparable whith the ghost? Thanks again.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Javier Hernando Rodriguez The Phantom is more user friendly. Easy to surf, great paddler, and Big sweet spot under the front foot. The Gamma is epic but not very forgiving.... it’s a HPSB and it needs at least a 3’ wave or bigger to go good. The Phantom has a good wave range of 2-7’+.
David Hunt
David Hunt - 6 years ago
I found a Thruster set up with the JJF Large in front and JJF Medium in the back working better than all large and all medium
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
David Hunt Epic!!!
P R
P R - 6 years ago
Awesome review and beautiful surfing. Please review the Pyzalien too! Can't decide between the Phantom and Pyzalien.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
mrXXXVII The folks at Pyzel are not down for me reviewing the Pyzelian
mrXXXVII
mrXXXVII - 5 years ago
@Surf n Show Reviews is there still a chance you can compare those two boards? Battle of the boards maybe?
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Peter R I heard the Pyzalian is sick too. I will try to get one but it might take a while.
Chris Fan
Chris Fan - 6 years ago
Squash tail or round tail for beach break planning on using it for the smaller wave range?
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Chris Fan Squash
Christian69James
Christian69James - 6 years ago
Riding that quad your backside flow looked unreal...complete speed but always under control...ripping..!!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
kingsofmayhem Yewww!! Cheers for the feedback. It felt so good too.
Jake Ingamells
Jake Ingamells - 6 years ago
i live on the sunshine coast australia and surfing the same sort of waves you would in California but cant decide wheather to buy a sub driver, phantom or HT2 as my next board. what would you recomend?
Jake Ingamells
Jake Ingamells - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews thanks for the help
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Jake Ingamells The Phantom goes off.... good paddler and surfs like HPSB. Phantom for me!!!
Ben Honour
Ben Honour - 6 years ago
Hey Noel,
Loving the reviews keep them up! I am looking for a new board, currently riding a lost baby buggy 80% of the time and I love it! But wanted to get a new board.. thinking a Pyzel Phantom or CI OG Flyer.. I surf in average conditions most of the time with a couple trips to Portugal and Morocco each year. What would u recommend? Cheers Ben from the UK!
Ben Honour
Ben Honour - 6 years ago
Good times, thanks Noel! Looking forward to the next review.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Ben Honour Yea Ben!!! The Phantom is a great choice as a Daily Driver. I think you will love it. By the way the Baby Buggy is a great board too. Stoked you like yours. Cheers
Romain Camelas
Romain Camelas - 6 years ago
Hi Noel, thanks for your amazing review!! I’d like to buy a Phantom but i’d like some advises please. I am 6’2 and 190 pounds and I ride the ghost 6’1 at 31,30 litres. Would you choose the 5’11 at 31,00L or the 6’0 at 32,60L please? Thanks for help.
Cheers Romain
Romain Camelas
Romain Camelas - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews thanks!!!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Romain Camelas If your Ghost feels good then I would go 5’11”.
Bon Summers
Bon Summers - 6 years ago
the quad speed is definitely next level.
Noah Stone
Noah Stone - 6 years ago
Noel ik u replied to my comment saying you won’t do a review on the evo but do u know what fins to use (futures) preferably quad
Noah Stone
Noah Stone - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews ok will do thank u
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Noah Stone If the board feels really loose then I would go with a Quad set like the F8’s to increase speed and control. If the board feels a little tight and hard to turn then I would go with the Haydenshapes Generation series set up. They are more upright and the board will pivot faster.
Troy Robinson
Troy Robinson - 6 years ago
What size Dane fins did you use, large or medium?
Ta
Troy Robinson
Troy Robinson - 6 years ago
Was thinking be good if you could do some Dylan Longbottom boards. They go good, and have a bit of a following over here in Oz.
I got a 5.9 x 19 x 2 7/16 free flow with less lts than he states ( feels like bit under 27 not 29 lts)
It"s a good performance board in good waves.
His other models the mexican and new mex5 look good too which i keen to try.
I also have a 5.8 x 19 1/2 x 2 3/8 twister which is a fun summer board, been trying the c- drive fins in it which are pretty rad. You should try them sometime. Drivey with release, but a bit funky sometimes...
Cheers.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Troy Robinson Large
Eamon Shields
Eamon Shields - 6 years ago
Amazing review as always man !! I think this is my next board. What size and volume would you recommend to a 6 foot 165 pound guy ? And how long do you think this board will last me. Thanks !!
Eamon Shields
Eamon Shields - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews thanks man will do !! Reviews are amazing !!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Eamon Shields I think that sounds good for you. It will paddle great and it’s very user friendly. Let me know how it goes after you get a few sessions on it.
Eamon Shields
Eamon Shields - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews it will be my first real shortboard actually. I am pretty new to surfing, but I usually rip my 6’8”. Rode my buddy’s 5’10” a few times. Had a blast Thinking about going with a 5’8” electralite. Haven’t heard too much about that construction though. Cheers !!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Eamon Shields What are the dims on your board your riding right now in 2-6’ surf?
E K
E K - 6 years ago
Quad looked great
Richard Gleaves
Richard Gleaves - 6 years ago
I’ve watched a few dozen of these review videos, and have always been bothered that no matter what board Noel was on, his surfing looked pretty much the same. Not good for a channel on board design. But this time, Noel on the quad looked different and looked better.
Kaelen Smith
Kaelen Smith - 6 years ago
I have a phantom and I really like it but I'm seeing some pretty bad pressures with minor cracking already after about 5 sessions, what should I do?
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Kaelen Smith Not sure there is much you can do... maybe reach out to the folks you bought it from and see what they say.
Paul Helden
Paul Helden - 6 years ago
Nice job again. Looks more on point than other boards under you feet. Riping!! Like the FT2 but this looks more fast.
Donos Team
Donos Team - 6 years ago
Does dis gai get gud waves ery daiii or wuuuuuuuuuuut
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Donos Team Absolutely firing waves
Brandon Chan
Brandon Chan - 6 years ago
damnn after watching you riding the phantom as a quad. I really regret no buying my phantom 5 fin set up. you killed it as a thruster, but watching you riding it as a quad was a game changing
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Brandon Chan Cheers bro... the waves we got for Thruster testing were good but the waves for the Quad testing were Epic. Both felt good but Quad was next level performance on this Phantom.
Daniel Perlaky
Daniel Perlaky - 6 years ago
I think a pretty valuable takeaway is that comment about a shaper building out a quiver of boards that share the same DNA – it's very logical to alter a board to suit different waves without changing the core principles of the design and feel. Maybe similar to Rocket and Rocket Wide but this kind of takes it to another level where with the three boards you can pretty much handle everything without having to fully re-adjust your approach to suit a totally different board.

I know you had the Team Lite glassing on there but durability is a big concern, especially for the travel boards. I think Pyzel has some durable options but I have a Pyzel in Firewire FST construction and after a year it has literally 0 pressure dents and barely a scratch even after a few run ins with super low tide reef heads. Too bad FW and Pyzel ended their shaping arrangement but hopefully more and more shapers will give options for ultra-durable closed-cell EPS for worry-free travel.
Daniel Perlaky
Daniel Perlaky - 6 years ago
Word... I also have a Machado Almond Butter in TimberTek, arguably the most eco-friendly of the constructions (though no board is truly eco-friendly), and the longer we can make a board last without losing performance the better I think – part of the reason I think your show is valuable is because it helps people dial in to the right board for them and then hopefully have to buy less boards in total. The Almond Butter has been on trips and has taken airline abuse without any issues and also has no pressure dents. The closed cell EPS is a big bonus on trips as well because it doesn't need immediate repair and won't suck in water – so rather than a hack job during the trip and waiting for it to cure it's reasonable to wait until you get home to repair.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Great comments and I agree with you about all of it. Durability is very important to me too and the Firewire constructions are next level in durability and feel. So far I have tested the LFT, and Helium and they felt great and were very durable.Thanks for your comments.....
crstf
crstf - 6 years ago
really nice intro and liked that you put in so much great footage this time
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Stoked you like this review!
wozza77able
wozza77able - 6 years ago
So what do you reckon is better the uber driver or the phantom?
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Chris Fan I say go Phantom for Daily Driver and get a legitimate Groveler like the Gremlin. Rocket Wide, or Lost PJHP for 1-2’ surf. All 3 of these boards are mental. Cheers
Chris Fan
Chris Fan - 6 years ago
Hey Noel, I have the same question too. Do you feel it'd be kinda pointless to have the phantom and the uber driver? Or better to go phantom and a more dedicated groveler? Seems like the uber driver isn't really a dedicated groveler for those soft 1-2ft mush days we've been getting in SD recently. THANKS!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Both boards are epic.... the Phantom has more foam under the chest so it paddles better and it has a bit more rocker in the belly of the board and in the tail so it will have better traction off the bottom. The Uber will grovel a little better because it has flatter rocker in the belly allowing for more speed in flatter sections on 1-3' surf. Both boards are user friendly and are great daily drivers.
Mathieu Coste
Mathieu Coste - 6 years ago
Again a great review. Man you rock! I learn a lot and your show helps me to put words on some of my feelings in the water. I'm looking to purchased my next board and am looking for an everyday board but also a board that will help me progress. I'm looking at the Baby buggy, phantom and SCI FI. I would rather get all of them but my wife would probably kill me. Any advice?
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Mathieu Coste Phantom is the most user friendly out of the 3 boards your looking at. The Phantom is a excellent paddler and has a big sweet spot under the front foot. The other two boards are good too but I recommend the Phantom for you and what your looking for. Cheers
Greg Lucero
Greg Lucero - 6 years ago
Quad set up is what I usually ride because the added traction really helps to produce down the line speed. your surfing was noticeably crisper, more powerfull and throwing more spray with the extra fin in there. Thank you for the review the boards look great
Macro VIGILANCE
Macro VIGILANCE - 6 years ago
Great video and great surfing as ever Noel. I would love to see you test one of the new Mick Fanning "MF softboards". There are very few vids on it and I think there would be a lot of interest. Particularly the little Marley model if possible. Thanks in advance if you can make this happen! cheers Simon
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Sorry, I have no interest in reviewing Soft Top Boards at this time. I am sure they are fun but not really my cup of tea. Cheers
Nick Burkett
Nick Burkett - 6 years ago
Mate how much you weigh? Did you go up some L's?
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
I weigh 160lbs or 72.57kg. I did not go up in weight or Liters... I give each shaper a range of 25-26.8 Liters with some basic DIMS and they send what the send.
GeniusUnleashed
GeniusUnleashed - 6 years ago
Phantom looks amazing under your feet. John John's seemed better for you though.
Julius Thomas
Julius Thomas - 6 years ago
The Quad looks sooooo fun!!!
Kristiankratt
Kristiankratt - 6 years ago
Hey Noel I was just wondering if you could do a review on the Panda B2. Also great surfing in this video that board looks sick!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Stoked you like this review... I will look into the Panda B2. Cheers
wolf
wolf - 6 years ago
are you riding el porto as well?
wolf
wolf - 6 years ago
ahh haha well you have a doppelgänger running around el porto! thanks again for all the info you provide!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
wolf Stoked you like our show and it helps you. I haven’t surfed El Porto since I was 14...
wolf
wolf - 6 years ago
haha sorry didn't clarify. i meant do you surf at el porto. thought i had seen you out there. was going to tell you i really enjoy the channel. have learned a lot about boards through this channel. has helped me figure out what type of boards i'm really looking for and why.
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Is that a board or a surf spot. I have surfed El Porto in LA County but not sure how to answer your question?
Surf Rinse Repeat
Surf Rinse Repeat - 6 years ago
Are you kidding me!! The quad looked so good! Complimented your surfing! Keep ripping and thanks for the solid reviews!
Paul James
Paul James - 6 years ago
is it really that wide ? did you try one ?
Shane Diiullo
Shane Diiullo - 6 years ago
Quad did look good, wide tails love quads.
monkeypawism
monkeypawism - 6 years ago
Damn, those cutbacks on the quads....tight!
Blade Runner
Blade Runner - 6 years ago
Once again great review. hey Noel, can you do some high level surf technics, special reviews ? that will be great. thanks for such nice videos,
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Blade Runner We are getting more and more of these requests.... maybe in the near future.
Ryan Bachman
Ryan Bachman - 6 years ago
Hell yeah, Noel! Great review, solid surfing. I'm absolutely in love with my 5'8 Phantom Electralite. Best daily driver I've ever owned. I also surf Trestles on the daily, so the EPS/Expoxy construction is insane for our waves.
Eamon Shields
Eamon Shields - 6 years ago
Ryan Bachman hey man thinking about getting the electralite. How do you like it ?!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Ryan Bachman Stoked you found a nugget.... thanks for posting your experience with the Phantom too. Cheers
Kevin Tyrer
Kevin Tyrer - 6 years ago
I like these boards. I think Pyzel have nails the tre'o. Awesome into. Thank you
Liam Rodriguez
Liam Rodriguez - 6 years ago
Could you Compare it to the uber driver please regarding usability?
Miguel Marquina
Miguel Marquina - 6 years ago
69 likes already, Dang this channel is picking up some inertia!!!!!
bushkey
bushkey - 6 years ago
The phantom looked very stable and fast, the Monsta box seemed a little bit looser?
bushkey
bushkey - 6 years ago
Ok Noel, another great review. my big question, can you please give me some detail Monsta box vs. Phantom. I’m a huge fan of the Monsta box and I have been really wanting to try the Phantom. cheers!
Paul Lacroix
Paul Lacroix - 6 years ago
Hi! Did you have a chance to test both ? I want to buy one of those two but struggling to chose which one ;) let me know! thanks!
bushkey
bushkey - 6 years ago
Ok, watched again. Very interesting that you liked the board better as a quad. You are not normally a quad guy for one, and normally normal shortboards with squash tail are funky and too tracky as a quad. You looked like you struggled a tad with it as a tri, and were ripping as a quad. So interesting
Paul Barford
Paul Barford - 6 years ago
Ripping !!!!!!
onespeed
onespeed - 6 years ago
How durable is the electralite, any issues? Thanks.
Ryan Bachman
Ryan Bachman - 6 years ago
oh man, I got my 5'8 Phantom Electralite and it's amazing (5'10 x 165lbs). I surf Trestles and San Clemente breachbreaks on the daily, and it works in everything. Mushy 2' waves at Trestles to 6' punchy waves at Riviera's. It's the best daily driver I've ever owned. I'm picking up my PU Ghost later this week and my Gremlin Electralite is in shaping. This quiver will be the best for pretty much all surf.
Hit Markers
Hit Markers - 6 years ago
can you do a graham smith surfboard review?(maybe the "44" and the "Firefly" models)
Johnny Ferreira
Johnny Ferreira - 6 years ago
Hey Noel, completely different outlines, but seems like this serves the same wave range as the Fever. If you could only pick 1, which would it be? Thanks
Jamie Ryan
Jamie Ryan - 6 years ago
Noel, what are your thoughts on the Phantom vs the Lost Psycho Killer in knee to head high as a daily driver? Which would be your choice in mushier surf?
Jamie Ryan
Jamie Ryan - 6 years ago
i ended up going with a 6'0 psycho killer in carbon wrap. It's an amazing board. Had it out on a clean waist to shoulder day and i'm very satisfied. Paddles like a dream, plenty of speed to get through flatter spots and can easily get vertical when you have a workable section. I rode it as a thruster with a set of Lg performer fins in neo glass for some extra flex. Fun session for sure. But the Phantom looks like a fun stick as well. I might pick one up too, just to give it a go.
Noah Stone
Noah Stone - 6 years ago
James Ryan ooh I would like to know as well I would think that the psycho killer would especially with the swallow helping for more speed
Tosh Jaoudi
Tosh Jaoudi - 6 years ago
Hey Noel! How does this compare to the ...lost Uber driver?

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Hoku Insai
Hoku Insai - 6 years ago
Thanks for the review Noel! Keep ripping Bruddah!
Fred DeSmet
Fred DeSmet - 6 years ago
Looks like the quad carved off the top best. Though all of them looked loose and fun to ride.
Richard Embery
Richard Embery - 6 years ago
Sick review. Definitely looks better as a quad. Looked sticky at times as a Thruster. Maybe Try the Jack Freestone generation series in it as a Thruster. They went great in my Pyzel Sure thing. To me the J Freestone couple better with the stretch quad rears compared to the Haydens though.
I also like the Ando fibreglass fins when it gets punchier.
Have a good one
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Richard Embery Cheers for posting the fins you like in yours.
Dylan Haberle
Dylan Haberle - 6 years ago
Could you please review the Christiaan Bradley LC6 gladiator!!?? Would love to see what you think of it!
E10Dude
E10Dude - 6 years ago
Hey Noel, Do the places you surf at for your reviews rarely barrel? Would love to see how you get in and outa tubes in some of these surfboard reviews!
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
E10Dude Yea not much of a barrel at my home break. Pretty rare but we do shoot beach breaks....only in the winter time.
GGN
GGN - 6 years ago
I love your show. great job man. The feedbacks at the beach are mental. cheers from Brazil
Truth Seeker
Truth Seeker - 6 years ago
Board looked amazing as a quad!
Brodie Turner
Brodie Turner - 6 years ago
Great review, freakin love this show!
Rome
Rome - 6 years ago
wow the quad set up really made a difference with down the line speed and flow of turns.......ripping!
Karl Jakobsson
Karl Jakobsson - 6 years ago
Your reviews are just getting better. How you took time reviewing and comparing it with different fins is next level! Sick surf footage. Best YouTube channel.
Peter Ball
Peter Ball - 6 years ago
Awesome review. Ripping as always. How does it compare to the sampler? And if u had to pick between this and the lost Uber driver. Which one would you pick? Cheers
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Peter.... sorry I missed your question. The Phantom and Sampler are really not comparable. The Sampler is a small wave board 1-3' maybe 4' max and the Phantom is a daily driver for 2-7" surf. The Phantom has a bit more tail rocker and will offer more performance in the pocket and off the bottom.

I would pick the Phantom over the UD and Sampler as a Daily Driver.
יכין ינקלביץ
יכין ינקלביץ - 6 years ago
Great review as always.
Have u been trying the FireWire new Slater*Tomo design?
rbvallim
rbvallim - 6 years ago
Next level review mate!
Felix Lux
Felix Lux - 6 years ago
Top review and top surfing. Looked very good under your feet, especially as a quad!
kinjuk15
kinjuk15 - 6 years ago
Yeahhh Noel you are absolutely ripping it with that quad setup!
It'd be cool if you reviewed weirder boards like the meyerhoffer. Also, a single fin 9/10ft longboard would be funny to watch just to see how your flow would turn out!
Cheers
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
kinjuk15 Classic.... I suck at surfing long boards. Cheers for the kind words.
Liam Donnelly
Liam Donnelly - 6 years ago
Oh man riding it as a quad looked game changing for you on those waves that were a bit smaller! Would love to hear how you go riding the ghost on a 3ft5ft day but with the same quad setup you had here! Great review.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Liam Donnelly I did ride the Ghost as a Quad with that same set up. It went good too!!!
Kahele Koki
Kahele Koki - 6 years ago
Noel can you do a review on AU fins I want to see what you think of them mahalo
Youdig
Youdig - 6 years ago
Good review waiting for the gremlin one now :-)
oisin186
oisin186 - 6 years ago
can you review the billabong revolution series wetsuits or the imperial motion deluxe as a budget wetsuit kind of ep.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
oisin186 My pleasure... stoked your enjoying all of the reviews.
oisin186
oisin186 - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews that's fine love all the vids anyway keep up the great work and thanks for replying
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
oisin186 Stoked you like our show. Not sure we are going to continue doing wetsuit reviews. Not too many surfers watching them and they are a lot of work. We want to focus on surf equipment that surfers want to learn about. We love Wetsuits and find them worthy of a review but our community doesn’t seem to be to into them.
oisin186
oisin186 - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews thanks very much love all vids especially wetsuit reviews mainly because I'm from Ireland
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
oisin186 I will see what we can do....
Johnny Pep
Johnny Pep - 6 years ago
Noel you could surf a fricken Mac Donald’s tray and make it look good ..
No offence to Pyzel surfboards btw
Thomas V.
Thomas V. - 6 years ago
Lol so true, Noel is the kinda guy you see in the water and always mistake him for Slater :P
(bald head helps of course)
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Hone Pepper This Phantom model goes mental... thanks for the kind words.

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