Slater Designs "Gamma" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep. 46

Click to buy: SURF STATION - https://www.surfstationstore.com/collections/firewire-surfboards/products/firewire-x-slater-designs-gamma-surfboard No obligation, but these links & ads help support the site and keeps the reviews coming! If you decide to buy somewhere else or would like to support the show, please donate at https://www.paypal.me/surfnshow In this episode I review the Slater Designs “Gamma” in a new technology by Firewire called Helium. I got my hands on two of them… one is 5’6” x 18 7/8 x 2 5/16 Liters 25.5 for more as a daily driver in the 3-6’ surf. The other one is a 5’10” x 18 ½ x 2 5/16 Liters 26.5 for a little bigger surf as a High Performance board in the 5-8’+ surf. Both boards felt great in the 3-6’ surf but since we only got waves in that wave range the 5’6” board looked the best in the footage but the 5’10” felt good too. We just never got the sizeable surf to test it’s range. The new Helium Technology by Firewire has great flex and durability and is second to nothing I have ever tested. After riding the 5’6” for roughly 4 weeks in small to overhead surf I took the wax off the board and to my surprise there was one little pressure dent that I could barely feel with my hand. Most of the time the decks are pretty well pushed in after 4 weeks of testing. With this being said the Flex and feel on the Helium Technology felt great and the durability is now setting the bar for the rest of the boards that I test. Overall the Gamma is an excellent High Performance board that I recommend for the Intermediate to Advanced surfer. The Helium Technology will help this board to perform with great flex longer then a PU board and feel fresh under your feet.

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Click to buy: SURF STATION - https://www.surfstationstore.com/collections/firewire-surfboards/products/firewire-x-slater-designs-gamma-surfboard No obligation, but these links & ads help support the site and keeps the reviews coming! If you decide to buy somewhere else or would like to support the show, please donate at https://www.paypal.me/surfnshow In this episode I review the Slater Designs “Gamma” in a new technology by Firewire called Helium. I got my hands on two of them… one is 5’6” x 18 7/8 x 2 5/16 Liters 25.5 for more as a daily driver in the 3-6’ surf. The other one is a 5’10” x 18 ½ x 2 5/16 Liters 26.5 for a little bigger surf as a High Performance board in the 5-8’+ surf. Both boards felt great in the 3-6’ surf but since we only got waves in that wave range the 5’6” board looked the best in the footage but the 5’10” felt good too. We just never got the sizeable surf to test it’s range. The new Helium Technology by Firewire has great flex and durability and is second to nothing I have ever tested. After riding the 5’6” for roughly 4 weeks in small to overhead surf I took the wax off the board and to my surprise there was one little pressure dent that I could barely feel with my hand. Most of the time the decks are pretty well pushed in after 4 weeks of testing. With this being said the Flex and feel on the Helium Technology felt great and the durability is now setting the bar for the rest of the boards that I test. Overall the Gamma is an excellent High Performance board that I recommend for the Intermediate to Advanced surfer. The Helium Technology will help this board to perform with great flex longer then a PU board and feel fresh under your feet.

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MrSnoopful
MrSnoopful - 5 years ago
Hey Noel, I have been really enjoying my Gamma in 4-6 foot So Cal days. But I do notice it's limitations in the 2 to 4 foot somewhat mushy days, which are all too common here. I'm looking for a high performance daily driver, that can handle the more average to fun days. Do you think the Holy Grail would provide a similar "Gamma" feeling for the more average days? or any other board suggestions? p.s. thanks for allowing us mortal surfers to "sample" so many boards through you.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
MrSnoopful I think the Pyzel Phantom goes excellent in So Cal 2-4’ surf. Another board I like in 2-4’ mush is the CI NB2 or RW. Check those 3 boards out at your local shop. I would go NB2 Spinetek in 2-4’ surf.
Ryder Akimoto
Ryder Akimoto - 5 years ago
When you mean 3-5 ft do you mean Hawaiian or face
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Ryder Akimoto Face
Miguel Marquina
Miguel Marquina - 5 years ago
What fins would you use in the fcs2 lineup for waves in the head high to a few feet overhead? Am2’s ?
Miguel Marquina
Miguel Marquina - 5 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews Thank you so much for telling me about the fins in the Fcs2 lineup. I put in the HS’s this morning and I could really feel the difference. The board is really drivey, so it makes sense to put a more upright fin to compliment that hip. The waves this morning were headies and the HS fins seemed more flexible than the carbon reinforced performers that I have which I think I will use when it gets a little bit bigger being that the fin has carbon in it
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Miguel Marquina Beach Break, Performers or Haydenshapes and point breaks Kolohe Andino’s.
Xabier xabi
Xabier xabi - 5 years ago
I have ordered a gamma in 5.11 and i am 6.2. the litres are nice in helium like 31.8 L.

I was thinking in having a CI fever, what are the diferences betwenn too boards???
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Xabier xabi Both boards are sick!!! I found the Fever to be a little easier to surf, and it will need less of a wave to get going. It think the Fever has a little less rocker in the belly and entry which makes it paddle a little better and get down the line faster too.
D Brown
D Brown - 5 years ago
Hey, I'm no expert but that thing looks very similar to a CI New Flyer! Is it exactly the same?
D Brown
D Brown - 5 years ago
Nice and yes outline with the hip classic flyer design.
@Surf n Show Reviews
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Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
D Brown This Gamma has better flow and needs more of a wave. I am sure the outlines look similar but they do not ride the same. The Gamma is more progressive and is a true HPSB. The NF was just ok for me. I like the OG Flyer better than the NF.
Ruben
Ruben - 6 years ago
This board looks so unstable and shaky? Is it?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Vanue Not sure we’re going to do wetsuit reviews anymore. Our community doesn’t seem into them. They are a lot of work for us and not too many views.
Ruben
Ruben - 5 years ago
@Surf n Show Reviews Great thanks man! Hopefully we see some wetsuits reviews soon! Cheers!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 5 years ago
Vanue The LFT is better for all conditions because it has a bit more weight to it. That weight will help you sink the rail faster if your surfing in windy conditions. It will also have less chatter or vibration because of the extra weight. If your looking to buy a Gamma then I recommend the LFT.
Ruben
Ruben - 5 years ago
​@Surf n Show Reviews Is there a reason why Kelly choosed that material and is it good for every condition surf? I just surf 5 times a year so I`m an intermediate surfer &also what are the diffrences between Helium and LFT, and which is better for every condition surf? Would nice to hear your opinion about it.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Vanue No... it’s solid but HPSB are very responsive and they can be very demanding and hard to surf.

These Gamma’s felt great under foot but I am used to surfing HPSB.
Davis Hickey
Davis Hickey - 6 years ago
Awesome review
X -MAN X MAN
X -MAN X MAN - 6 years ago
Gama comper phantom please?
X -MAN X MAN
X -MAN X MAN - 6 years ago
The 6.0
Is more steek to leges. Than 6.2.like this alot
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Erezdekel Erez123123 A longer board will take longer to turn compared to a shorter board. The shorter board will be easy to turn quickly and it will fit in smaller waves better.
X -MAN X MAN
X -MAN X MAN - 6 years ago
@Surf n Show Reviews thanks.now.what if i surf on 6.2 board.my new board is 6.0. What i feel now on the 6.0 board? I meen what is the good in more shortboard and is the the bad ?
Noal you are the best review man
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Erezdekel Erez123123 Gamma needs more of a wave to go good and it’s a bit more demanding. The Phantom is the easiest HPSB I have ever surfed. If your a golfer then the Gamma is like hitting blades... the Phantom has a large sweet spot and is super easy to surf.
James Witty
James Witty - 6 years ago
I have the 6'2 I'm 93kgs and I hate it. I feels like a boat and I cant bury the rail. I feel fire have the scaling wrong. Rails should be a different ratio to length and width.
Johnny Pp
Johnny Pp - 5 years ago
Ii'm about same weight, did you try a smaller one as suggested?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
James Witty maybe try to demo a smaller one. It could just be a little big for you.

10. comment for Slater Designs "Gamma" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep. 46

sean c
sean c - 6 years ago
Hey neol, sick review so well explained man, gets allot clear,
I am hesitating between getting the 5'10 or the 5'11 in hp dims, i live in south of france with fast and allot of times big beach breaks " hossegore, seignosse...."
I weight 172 pounds for 5'10 in height
Any suggestions cause the 5'10 has 6.5litres and the 5'11 has 8.1L knowing that this board floats well maybee the 5'10 would be better??
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
sean c If I were surf big hollow Beach break then I would want a little more float. I also recommend he Gamma in the LFT Tech because it has a little more weight to it.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
horzuela Life Needs a Haircut by the Buttonholes.
Belgis Chial
Belgis Chial - 6 years ago
Hi! Great review! Could your review the FireWire spitfire ?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Belgis Chial Stoked you like this a Gamma review. The next Firewire review will be the Cymatic or Moonbeam. I will check into the Spitfire. Cheers
Miguel Marquina
Miguel Marquina - 6 years ago
Just got back from Trestles and had fun this weekend. Surfline is claiming double overhead sets early next week can you test the 5’ 10 in those conditions?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Miguel Marquina Absolutely... I have a JS Monsta 8 for the big swell coming.
Miguel Marquina
Miguel Marquina - 6 years ago
yea I figured that was the case but I thought I would give it a shot and get your fingers tapping, so would you say that if you did have it in the good old quiver that you would take it out on a double over head day over a traditional step up? Are you going out on a big day like that? If so what will you have under your feet?
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Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Miguel Marquina That would be sick but that board is long gone. After we’re done reviewing most boards they are gone and we have to move forward. Each boards he s it’s 2 minutes of footage and we’re done ... sorry bro. It would go mental out there though. The Gamma is solid in good surf.
damanizyo
damanizyo - 6 years ago
Damn, I am at 210lbs and just got the 6'4" reg dim's @ 38 ltr, wondering if I should have went with the 6"2' @ 35ltr
damanizyo
damanizyo - 6 years ago
Too late man! had already set it up, it is what it is. Will take the next swell we get here. Maybe just my step up then. Thanks for the reply.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
damanizyo Did you ride or wax it yet? If not then go exchange it.
Kahele Koki
Kahele Koki - 6 years ago
Brah you surf like slater on this board only difference is your left arm swings a little different than slater but the haircut is identical lol ALOHA
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Kahele Koki Classic
onespeed
onespeed - 6 years ago
Noel you rip, how old are you? I'm 56, going back surfing after 15yrs. Man, boards have changed quite a bit lately.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
sean craig Welcome back to the water... boards have changed a bunch. I am 45 years old.
Miguel Marquina
Miguel Marquina - 6 years ago
what would you say that is equal to the F8 black stix in the FCS 2 fin boxes?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Miguel Marquina What??? That’s epic... stoked you like our show bro.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Miguel Marquina What??? That’s epic. Stoked you like our show bro.
Miguel Marquina
Miguel Marquina - 6 years ago
I always watch your reviews before I paddle out every morning
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Miguel Marquina Nothing really... however the NEO Glass Performers go good in 1-3’ surf. They have good flex and will give you a little extra prop in your turns on small waves.
surfvocals
surfvocals - 6 years ago
what fcs2 fins would you like in the board? cheers
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
pirateunder40 The KA Large for 3-5’ surf and the MF for 4-6’+.
Miguel Marquina
Miguel Marquina - 6 years ago
Would you take the 5’6 in bigger surf? Like you would the 5’10? Do you think it would work in 5’10 testing field?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Miguel Marquina How much bigger surf? I would go 5’10” in 5’ and bigger and I would choose the 5’8” in 3-5’ surf. The 5’6” worked pretty good but the 5’8” would have been better for me. I rode what Firewire sent me. If your going to be riding the Gamma in bigger surf then I would buy it in LFT not Helium too. You will want the extra weight in bigger surf.

20. comment for Slater Designs "Gamma" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep. 46

GoForPro Joe
GoForPro Joe - 6 years ago
Just curious. What’s your height?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Joe Tchoe I am 5’9” and I weigh 160lbs.
Miguel Marquina
Miguel Marquina - 6 years ago
The high performance dims should be tested at Blacks being that Lowers doesn’t usually get that ceiling big
Miguel Marquina
Miguel Marquina - 6 years ago
Maybe in August, I just traded in two grovelers in great condition and paid 300 bucks for the wider Gamma so I'm tapped out at the moment
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Miguel Marquina Sounds good... how about you test it on some bombs and let us know how it goes?
Miguel Marquina
Miguel Marquina - 6 years ago
Bought this board right after the Demo
Miguel Marquina
Miguel Marquina - 6 years ago
I took this board out this morning @ Blacks. The board was amazing. The board was quick, responsive and got me into those nuggity sections. I used the large blackstix Ando's and it was fast!!!!!! I have to get one for sure
Javier Hernando Rodriguez
Javier Hernando Rodriguez - 6 years ago
Hi Noel, before nothing, thank you very much for your work!!! HELPS A LOT to those who do not have the possibility to try or see in person the different surfboards that are on the market today..... I want to ask you a questions in function to your experience:

1) The boards in HELIUM, at the same amount of liters, are more bouyancy than FST (FIREWIRE) OR CARBON WRAP (LOST).
2) HELIUM is stronger (durable) than CARBON WRAP?
3) I´m analyzing buying a board FOR GOOD WAVES (CHEST TO HEAD +). I am in doubt between GAMMA 5.9" or UBER DRIVER 5.9". Which do you think is better for that range ...... I already have a FIREWIRE DOMINATOR FST for small waves

I´m 5.75" - 145-150lbs - Beach break Surfing

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND FORGIVE FOR THE EXTENSION OF THE QUESTION.
Javier Hernando Rodriguez
Javier Hernando Rodriguez - 6 years ago
Thank you very much!!!. You are very helpful... i will take a look at lost driver in CW.!!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Javier Hernando Rodriguez The Buoyancy is roughly the same between the Helium and CW.

The Helium is a bit more durable... way less pressure dents compared to the CW.

The Gamma would be better out of the two boards for the wave range you are seeking. I think a better board match up is the Lost Driver and the Gamma. The Driver is easier to ride compared to the Gamma. All three boards are epic and you cannot go wrong with any of them.

Cheers and I hope this helps. Stoked you like our show!!!! Yewww
Ryan Hoge
Ryan Hoge - 6 years ago
ya dude, like who are you, you f'ing rip
Mik Surf
Mik Surf - 6 years ago
Noel is a ripper. Thnx for the detailed board review!!!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Mik Surf Cheers
DQ Reviews
DQ Reviews - 6 years ago
Best board review i've ever seen
captainkoz
captainkoz - 6 years ago
New flyer or gamma or holy grail or skx? Surfing east coast Florida waves and sometimes Puerto Rico...Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
captainkoz
captainkoz - 6 years ago
Thanks for the speedy and detailed response, I really appreciate it. You’re doing a great job on videos, keep up the good work.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
captainkoz Holy Grail is the most versatile for waves in 1-6+. The Gamma and SJX need a wave to go good... 3-6’+. The N Flyer has too much rocker for my likings in small waves... it needs 3-6’ surf too. The HG goes mental in everything... beyond 6’ I would switch to a HPSB. Cheers
wozza77able
wozza77able - 6 years ago
Did you ride it as a quad?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
wozza77able No sorry...

30. comment for Slater Designs "Gamma" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep. 46

sqorpy
sqorpy - 6 years ago
thx for the great review. can you also plz post some details about your spec. your hight and weight?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
sqorpy I put that in every review. I am 5’9” and weigh 160lbs.
Karolina Gil
Karolina Gil - 6 years ago
GREAT VIDEO! just a quick question. if you had to choose between the gamma and the lost driver which would you choose?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Karolina Gil I would choose the Lost Driver. More forgiving... easier to surf and the Driver goes better in small surf.
Evan Reed
Evan Reed - 6 years ago
do a review on the Firewire Sci-fi.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Evan Reed Maybe in the near future... it’s an older model now. I have the SKX coming soon.
Caetano
Caetano - 6 years ago
Noel ! Great review & job ;-) ... I have a Gamma 6’2 and I’m using FCS2 reactor but I still missing some speed in some session were the waves are weak ... do u have another fin suggestion to me?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Caetano I have those fins too and they work good when the waves have some size and power. They PC Carbon and they are pretty stiff... I don’t recommend them for small wave surfing.
Caetano
Caetano - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews , thank you very much for your time and recommendation... But I’m a bit curious about what do you think about Medina FCS 2 fins? Do you think it work also ?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Caetano Stoked you like our show!!! The Reactor is a very upright fin so it will pivot quickly and make your board very loose and responsive. If you want more drive in small waves get a fin with a bit more sweep or rake to it. It will give you more drive and draw out your turns a bit compared to the Reactors. I recommend the Kolohe Andino fin... not too much rake and not too upright either. Lots of speed and won’t make your feel tight or hard to turn. Cheers
Shawn Weston
Shawn Weston - 6 years ago
Hi Noel,for 3ft and under sloppy surf could u please give me a 3 board comparison between the gamma,channel islands sampler,And channel islands rocket 9,(both in polyurethane)I'm talking speed,vertical ability,power,which is best in the pocket etc etc.thanks.
Shawn Weston
Shawn Weston - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews thank you Noel so much for the feedback.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Shawn Weston The Gamma is not a Groveler and I don’t recommend it for 1-3’ surf. It needs a good wave to go. The Sampler is really fast down the line and I highly recommend it in 1-3’ surf. The Rocket 9 is good in 2-6’ surf... it will grovel in 1-3’ surf if you run a 2+1 set up. (Twin fin + small trailer) I would go Sampler out of the 3 boards you mentioned. Cheers
Shawn Weston
Shawn Weston - 6 years ago
I love this sport.isnt it amazing how with all this new technologies and materials there is always something new to experiment with.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Shawn Weston Couldn’t agree more!!!
yesfrat b knowin
yesfrat b knowin - 6 years ago
wanna buy one of these but at $990 in oz could b an exy fuck up ,nervous
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
yesfrat b knowin I know boards are so expensive... on a positive note the Helium construction doesn’t pressure dent that easy. So it will hold its value really well. If you’re thinking about this board make sure you want strictly a HP board. This Gamma does not grovel well.
K FIVE
K FIVE - 6 years ago
great videos! keep it up....... thanks
Mathieu Revel
Mathieu Revel - 6 years ago
You look good on this one !  I unfortunately snapped my lovely fever last week end... so devastated...this board fell so good, need another board, for the 3 to 5 foot, I kind of hesitate to try the gamma or to re-order the fever cause it worked so well for me. You reckon it s risky to go with the gamma considering I had the fever ?
Mathieu Revel
Mathieu Revel - 6 years ago
That s actually, 1.6 ( 30.8L VS 32.4 ) - Same problem ?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Mathieu Popey Yes 2.4 liters is a big difference for paddling. You will feel that for sure
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Mathieu Popey I say plug some DIMS in to the CI Website on building a custom and see where it takes you.
Mathieu Revel
Mathieu Revel - 6 years ago
Alternatively a local shop is selling the board in 6'1 at a very fair price, comes down to 30,8L, you reckon there will be a big difference in paddling with the 6'2 I used to own (32.4L) ?
Mathieu Revel
Mathieu Revel - 6 years ago
that makes a lot of sense, what kind of dims would you recommend to be more or less between 31.5 to 32.4 ? considering i ll take this board from 2 foot plu punchy / anything from 3 foot
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Mathieu Popey The linger Board will draw your turns out and it will feel like your turning in slow motion. A good example... a shorter board is like driving a sports car... more responsive.
Mathieu Revel
Mathieu Revel - 6 years ago
I m a bit worried to mess up the original design / performance of the board playing wiht dims. 32L seems to be a good literage for me, i m 188cm 84 85kg, what are the drawbacks to surf a 6'2 you reckon ?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Mathieu Popey Both boards will go good in Indo but I would want a PU in the bigger waves on a surf trip like Indo. Maybe do a custom Fever because 6’2 is long....
Mathieu Revel
Mathieu Revel - 6 years ago
For indo type of waves up from 4to 6 foot- which one would you take ?
Mathieu Revel
Mathieu Revel - 6 years ago
haha maybe the gamma could do the job, I have a neckbeard for smaller stuff, just a bit weird that it gets pretty high in volume quickly for such a performance shortboard, i kinda of like more length to get in the waves earlier, i d need to go 5'11 on the gamma while i m on 6'2 for the fever
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Mathieu Popey Both boards are epic!!! The Fever can go good in smaller surf.... the Gamma needs some waves. Tough call.... sorry your on your own here.
samuel charlesworth
samuel charlesworth - 6 years ago
do a review on the new sharpeye holy toledo 2
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
samuel charlesworth I have something new coming from Sharpeye... not sure what it’s called though.
Michael Pemberton
Michael Pemberton - 6 years ago
Hey Noel. I was wondering weather the shorter wider gammer feels too similar to the city sampler. I really want to get the gamma in those dims but was not sure if it felt to much the same. Great show. Keep them coming
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Michael Pemberton The Gamma is a HP board and it has that feel too. It needs a good wave with some push to go good. The waves need to be 3-8’ for to perform.

The Sampler is a small wave board and goes good in 1-3+ surf. The Sampler is pretty flat rocker wise and can get speed on small waves unlike the Gamma.

If I could get another Gamma I would get the 5’8” in The Daily DIMS.
Dan Choi
Dan Choi - 6 years ago
Sick review Noel. I like the commentary on a few of the waves describing how the board worked. Really helpful.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Dan Choi Cheers!!! Glad you liked the review.
Sam Birchenough
Sam Birchenough - 6 years ago
Great review. Would love to hear your thoughts on the JS Air 17 (and how it compares to this board). See you at trestles sometime maybe
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Sam Birchenough The Monsta Box is epic in 2-4* for sure. Sick board!!
Sam Birchenough
Sam Birchenough - 6 years ago
Ended up getting a monsta box because I think it will provide me with more value. 6'0", 32L hyfi. Had a lot of fun on it in Huntington this weekend! It goes surprisingly good in small waves; might even sell my miami spice. Excited to see how it goes in bigger stuff. Definitely keeping the ghost in mind if necessary.
Sam Birchenough
Sam Birchenough - 6 years ago
Much appreciated Noel! Hope to see ya next time I'm at lowers. Thanks again mate
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Sam Birchenough I say do the Ghost at 6’2 and don’t go too wide. I would also recommend calling the folks at Pyzel for a little help ordering your custom.
Sam Birchenough
Sam Birchenough - 6 years ago
6'0" - 6'2" length, 4' - 10' waves. I have a 6'0" Miami spice and need something with more rocker & less volume for when the waves are above shoulder / steeper.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Sam Birchenough What length were you thinking and what size waves?
Sam Birchenough
Sam Birchenough - 6 years ago
Thanks Noel! All boards I've been looking at (except the Ghost due to round tail but maybe I should try one). Where would you add in some volume dim wise? A little width & thickness? I'm 6'4" 195lbs.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Sam Birchenough I listed a few performance boards that are a bit more user friendly that go insane.
CI Fever, Pyzel Ghost, Lost Driver. I would say the Ghost is most user friendly with a generous sweet spot and EPIC performance.
Sam Birchenough
Sam Birchenough - 6 years ago
Do you know of any performance shortboards with similar volume to the Gamma? Looking for something to go in punchier shoulder + (but not huge) SoCal beach breaks and indo trips. 6'0" 32L would be ideal I think. Maybe the Gamma is the move but I'm hesitant as I'm no where near your skill level yet. Really appreciate your time Noel!
Sam Birchenough
Sam Birchenough - 6 years ago
Awesome mate, thanks!!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Sam Birchenough Cheers... glad you like our show. The Air 17 looks epic and I would love to review that board. I have the Air17X coming and another new board by JS that has not been released yet.
Spasalonsupplier Sekarshopkuta
Spasalonsupplier Sekarshopkuta - 6 years ago
Joy Board for the Float on the water surface
dexterpolyester
dexterpolyester - 6 years ago
Excellent Noel thanks!
Mikey Statts
Mikey Statts - 6 years ago
I just bought this board because of your show and I’m stoked I did. Mahalo Nui!!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Mikie Statts Epic!!! The Gamma is the goods!!!
Surfdocsteve
Surfdocsteve - 6 years ago
How would you compare this to the Hayden Shapes Holy Grail ?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Surfdocsteve No comparison in my book... the Gamma is a High Performance Board and the HG is more of a daily Driver. HG will go good in 1-6’ surf and the Gamma is 3-6+ maybe 8’ surf. The Gamma is not a Groveler and struggles in small waves.
Guy Shred
Guy Shred - 6 years ago
Support local shapers kook
When was the last time you reviewed a local?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Yea Guy thanks for reaching out... I think the last local shaper review I did was on Lost Surfboards (San Clemente, CA) I also did one on the Magic Mix by Super Brands (Carlsbad, CA) a few of months ago. I am currently working on a review right now on the Ghost by Pyzel Surfboards (HI). Some other local shapers I am starting to work with is Chemistry Surfboards (Oceanside CA), Album Surfboards (San Clemente, CA), XTR Surfboards (Oceanside, CA). I am doing my best to review boards that our community is asking for and boards that I am interested in. Most of the boards that I am choosing to review are from the major brands because it helps surfers world wide (larger scale) do to You Tube's global presence..

Doing reviews on Local shapers is very important to us too and we understand that it helps out our local community and the families it provides for. I just wanted to respond to your comment so you know where Surf n' Show is coming from. Cheers!!!
Caetano
Caetano - 6 years ago
Noel, best professional review on YouTube so far ! Can you say something about ride this board with 4 fins ?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Caetano Cheers... glad you liked this review. I would only ride a High Performance Board like the Gamma as a Quad on 5-8+ barreling surf.
Ben Gravy
Ben Gravy - 6 years ago
dude you absolutely rip!!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Dee Dubya Sounds good to me... come down to The OC and let’s review a couple boards.
Dee Dubya
Dee Dubya - 6 years ago
You should have Gravy come and ride your boards with you to show a difference in style. Different approach.
Dee Dubya
Dee Dubya - 6 years ago
Yes breath of fresh air from Ben. The surf industry is not a breath of fresh air. First time in a while someone with a good attitude and not a industry douche. :)
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Cheers Ben... I just checked out your channel yesterday and it's pretty epic.If your ever OC hit me up!!!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Dee Dubya I just watched a bit of his channel. Pretty cool and Ben charges!!!
Dee Dubya
Dee Dubya - 6 years ago
I am a fan of Ben Gravy and fan or your videos as well. I as being Witty referencing Ben Gravy and "wave gravy" guess it went over the heads. Maybe someone should make a board for Ben called the Wave Gravy.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Dee Dubya Who makes that board?
Dee Dubya
Dee Dubya - 6 years ago
Wave Gravy
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Ben Gravy Cheers!!!
SoCal Boys
SoCal Boys - 6 years ago
Ben Gravy, I was telling Noel about your page last time I saw him. Gotta hook you guys up when you come to So Cal. Noel is the coolest and he does rip!

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Joey Radbones
Joey Radbones - 6 years ago
Great review Noel
What is the song? I dig it
The Buttonholes
The Buttonholes - 6 years ago
Hey Joey - Glad you're digging the tunes... I've got a snapback with your name on it... throw us a message on FB or Twitter
Joey Radbones
Joey Radbones - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews Thanks Noel! Gonna check 'em out
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Joey Radbones Yewww!! The song is called “Life needs a haircut” by the Buttonholes. Check them out at theButtonholes.com.
William Blaze
William Blaze - 6 years ago
So how's it work as a quad?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
William Blaze Sounds like a pretty fun challenge and I will ride more boards as Quads but I won’t give up thrusters... sorry. I will even ride try my HP boards as Quads... for turns emblem though I think they don’t pivot as good as a thruster. Cheers
William Blaze
William Blaze - 6 years ago
So you only see quads as being good for barrels? That's too bad. I haven't rode a thruster in years. I ride quads in everything and find they work way better in all conditions. I'm sure if you simply rode every board you have or tired as a quad for the next year, let your surfing adjust to being on a quad,  you would never ride a thruster again. The funny thing also is the only time I can ever see using a thruster is in hollow waves where I don't need to generate speed, but I actually need to go slower to not outrun the tube. I challenge you (as I have before) to ride every board you review this year as a quad, and lets see what happens after a year. And remember it's all about the back fins with quads. Smaller back fins for smaller days, bigger for bigger. Cheers.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
William Blaze I did not ride it at as a Quad. I would only ride a High Performance Board as a Quad for barrels.
noah weissman
noah weissman - 6 years ago
Great review! That 5'6" looks solid under your feet! You should do a review on the LFT Omni. Great board with a ton of glide. I've been riding the 5'2" and it has been really fun, it's a super fast board that turns really well on rail!
noah weissman
noah weissman - 6 years ago
yew so excited for that review the Tomos are sick
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
noah weissman I heard the Omni is epic. The SKX is the next Firewire board. My first Tomo.
Randy Panzarino
Randy Panzarino - 6 years ago
Surfs very similarly to kelly, idk if its the boards or just his style
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Randy Panzarino Cheers.. It’s the boards... everyone who gets one is guaranteed to surf just like him too. Ha
GO SURF
GO SURF - 6 years ago
Wow that 5'6" looks electric under your feet mate.. Must be one of the best ones in the last year or so looking at how it goes. I have a Chumlee and the Helium is one tech that's got really great damping even though it's super light. It's nice to see the manufacturers really starting to get it right with the control of flex on the epoxies. I think of flex and importantly control of flex to be like a car damper if you just have a spring it's returns way too fast but with damping that return of flex is controlled snd gives you good spring back that's still controlled.. I think the big players with the Helium, carbon wrap, Hi-Fi and dual core etc are really using materials strategically placed to do a good job.. I'm stoked with my Chumlee and Carbon Wrap Puddle Jumper just wish we had waves like yours to use them in ;-) Great review as always. Really look forward to these... Super detailed and the presentation is really polished now so thanks heaps for putting your time into bringing all this great content to us :-)
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
lawson45uk Cheers and thank you for posting your comments.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
elb2018 Cheers!!! The Spine-Tek in EPS feels great. It’s my favorite construction that CI makes. It’s a bit stiffer than their Flexbar and the footage is looking good.
wozza77able
wozza77able - 6 years ago
Shame you didn’t compare the helium and lft construction
bodhi tree
bodhi tree - 6 years ago
Your keeping a nice pace on those waves with the Gamma Noel. Good to finally see solid footage of this surfboard. How does it compare to the JS Monsta box in terms of drive down the line and turning capability. Do you think it has similar rocker?
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
bodhi tree Cheers on the review. This Gamma has more rocker over all compared to the Monstabox and the wave range is larger too. The Gamma is good in 3-6 maybe 8’ and the Monstabox is 2-5 max. The a Monstabox can Grovel the Gamma cannot. The Gamma is a high performance board and needs a wave with some power and The Monstabox is for less then average waves.
The Surf Show by Magnum Martinez
The Surf Show by Magnum Martinez - 6 years ago
Yeah Salas!!! great review brother, great surfing and really good insight and comparison on the different dims... this thing looks fun! Keep them coming!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
The Surf Show by Magnum Martinez Cheers Mags!!!
Waxfoot
Waxfoot - 6 years ago
This is your best review yet, loved the comparison and talking through the slight differences in turning radius. Great job man
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
So stoked you liked it. I've had a few people say that... I will continue to do this moving forward.... cheers!.
David Nelson
David Nelson - 6 years ago
Commenting on your surfing while the footage plays is genius - you should do that more. Love your reviews Noel!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Cheers... thanks for you feedback!
Bobby
Bobby - 6 years ago
Yeewwww shred it!
Stephen Brown
Stephen Brown - 6 years ago
Thanks Noel. Been waiting for this review to show up.
The board looks great under your feet. Awesome breakdown of why the board performs the way it does..Agreed you do look and surf like a Slater double!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Stephen Brown Stoked you like the review... the Gamma and HE Technology is legit. Cheers Slater is one of my all time favorites!!!
Geoff Koop
Geoff Koop - 6 years ago
Nice review Noel!  That board and those waves look killer!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Cheers!!! The waves were so fun for this review.
Mark Daniel
Mark Daniel - 6 years ago
Back on the QS with that board Noel ! Ripping it ! Slater’s stunt double . Great review, I didn’t know you could get the gamma with futures.
Mark Daniel
Mark Daniel - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews right on Noel ! What are we gonna be riding in 10-15 yrs from now !? The mind boggles . I love all the new technology, the last couple of years have been some great development in flex and materials. As long as it’s fun to ride, I’m interested . Good to have someone like yourself to provide some solid ride reports before possibly shelling out money . Futures bright bro !
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Yewwww!!! I wish I had the Gamma in the 5'6" or 5'8" back when I was on the QS.... ha. Yes they asked me what I preferred when they were going to send them down for review and I said no preference and they sent me Futures. Love it!!!
David Pham
David Pham - 6 years ago
Noel can't wait to see the SKX review!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Yewww! The 5'8" is what I ordered too.
David Pham
David Pham - 6 years ago
Planning on picking up the 5'8 as I weigh 160, would definitely like to see your review before pulling the trigger. Keep up the great work!
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
That review is going to be sick.... and I cannot wait to get on it. That board looks epic and a lot of my friends say its the best board they have ever ridden. We will soon see. I should get mine in roughly 1 week.
PipeLineGt
PipeLineGt - 6 years ago
Whats the best surf maneuver/turn to learn after the bottom turn? (For both frontside and backside)
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
I say a good carve in the pocket is a good start. Not every wave has a lip to hit so carves are a great maneuver to work on for starters.
alejandro soto palomares
alejandro soto palomares - 6 years ago
Hi noel, great review! was waiting this for a month, totally worth it, I have a blak box II in the hyfi construction, looking for a board for the better days, 4-6 ft hope also 8ft, So if I want the gamma I should go with the HP dims, between gamma and the V3 stealth point break surf 4-8ft, what you think? I am an intermediate, sometimes not so intermidiate. trying to improve my surfing.Very interested in your opinon. cheers from mexico.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
alejandro soto palomares I would go with the 31.5 on this one. It will be more forgiving and paddle better.
alejandro soto palomares
alejandro soto palomares - 6 years ago
awesome!!! thanks for taking the time to answere. I only have one more question, I am between the 31.5 lt or the 29.7 , I feel really confortable in 30 to 32lt, but I was wondering because of the construction, I should get the 29.7 lts I weight 75kg, 165lbs.
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
The Gamma will be a great board for the 6-8' point break surf for sure. The Gamma is very responsive and will test your skills as an intermediate surfer. The Gamma is very sensitive to foot placement and is not very forgiving at times but at point breaks I think you are good.

The Lost V3 Stealth is a sick board but I would ride that one in 2-5'+ surf... more for the average days. When it gets a bit bigger like 4-6+ then I would go with the Driver by Lost. Its more like the Gamma in that they are both High Performance boards designed for waves with some power or size.
Ant D
Ant D - 6 years ago
Noel, thanks for a great show.  Beautiful style in the water.  I was hoping to get some info:  the outline looks similar to the JS Monster Box,  your turns in the water looked similar as well.  Can you give me a few bullet points on the differences in dims (rocker, rails,N/T widths ) as well as construction (HyFi v Helium) Thanks. Ant
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Ant D Stoked you like the review. The Monstabox is a board designed for waves in my opinion in 2-5’ surf. The Gamma has more rocker throughout. The Gamma needs some power to go good and the Monstabox can grovel a bit better. The HYFY construction has more flex compared to the HE Technology with the Springer. The small wave boards by FireWire in HE Technology like the Chumlee or Dominator don’t have the Springer on the deck like the Gamma so they will have more flex for the smaller waves. The durability on the HE is much better compared to the HYFI. The Gamma is a true High Performance Board and the Monstabox is more for those less than average days.

I think a better comparison would be the Gamma to the Monsta 6. Cheers....
Abel Haynes
Abel Haynes - 6 years ago
You should do a review on JS black box 2 (Hyfi technology)!
X -MAN X MAN
X -MAN X MAN - 6 years ago
You are great
X -MAN X MAN
X -MAN X MAN - 6 years ago
Surf n Show Reviews o.k
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Erezdekel Erez123123 The B.B. Two looks mental! The Weirdo Ripper is good too but I am trying to focus on newer models. Sorry
X -MAN X MAN
X -MAN X MAN - 6 years ago
Black box2..please
Surf n Show Reviews
Surf n Show Reviews - 6 years ago
Abel Haynes I want too... I did a review on the Monstabox in HYFY and it goes so good.

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