Storm At Anchor In The Isles Of Scilly | Sailing Kittiwake – Ep. 2

We got stuck in a storm at anchor! In this episode we complete our boat work and sail to the Isles of Scilly. We also endure a storm at anchor and call a Mayday Relay for another yacht, which was blown onto the rocks. Sorry for the lack of footage - we were busy keeping our boat safe and talking to the coastguard. We thought it was important, however, to share what we learned from this experience. Thanks for watching our sailing vlog; we hope you enjoyed it. We tried to keep it short and sweet, but if you’d like to know more about what happened in the Isles of Scilly, you can read our full account in this blog post: http://sailingkittiwake.com/sailing-isles-scilly-baptism-fire/. In the next episode, we’ll cross the English Channel at its widest point, from the Isles of Scilly to L’Aber Wrac’h (France). Don’t forget to subscribe to our channel to receive an alert when it's live. If you’d like to know more about the anchorages we visited in the Isles of Scilly, check out this post: http://sailingkittiwake.com/sailing-the-isles-of-scilly-anchorages/. ***SUPPORT US ON PATREON*** If you like our videos and would like to support our production, we're over at: https://www.patreon.com/sailingkittiwake ***OR BUY US A BEER*** http://sailingkittiwake.com/support-us/ ***OUR BLOG*** If you’d like to find out more about us or Kittiwake, check out our blog: http://sailingkittiwake.com/. In our Sail Cruising Tips section you’ll find some advice on how to set off cruising yourself, as well as ideas on how to make money along the way. Let us know if we can help! ***WE’RE ALSO ON*** - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sailingkittiwake/ - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sailingkittiwake/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/svkittiwake Follow us for live updates, plus extra videos and pictures. ***CAMERAS*** Canon EOS M GoPro Hero 4 Silver ***MUSIC*** gOtam Sen - A Little Bird Told Me - Provided by Jamendo Löhstana David - Elle Va - Provided by Jamendo Ground & Leaves - Dirty River - Provided by Jamendo

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We got stuck in a storm at anchor! In this episode we complete our boat work and sail to the Isles of Scilly. We also endure a storm at anchor and call a Mayday Relay for another yacht, which was blown onto the rocks. Sorry for the lack of footage - we were busy keeping our boat safe and talking to the coastguard. We thought it was important, however, to share what we learned from this experience. Thanks for watching our sailing vlog; we hope you enjoyed it. We tried to keep it short and sweet, but if you’d like to know more about what happened in the Isles of Scilly, you can read our full account in this blog post: http://sailingkittiwake.com/sailing-isles-scilly-baptism-fire/. In the next episode, we’ll cross the English Channel at its widest point, from the Isles of Scilly to L’Aber Wrac’h (France). Don’t forget to subscribe to our channel to receive an alert when it's live. If you’d like to know more about the anchorages we visited in the Isles of Scilly, check out this post: http://sailingkittiwake.com/sailing-the-isles-of-scilly-anchorages/. ***SUPPORT US ON PATREON*** If you like our videos and would like to support our production, we're over at: https://www.patreon.com/sailingkittiwake ***OR BUY US A BEER*** http://sailingkittiwake.com/support-us/ ***OUR BLOG*** If you’d like to find out more about us or Kittiwake, check out our blog: http://sailingkittiwake.com/. In our Sail Cruising Tips section you’ll find some advice on how to set off cruising yourself, as well as ideas on how to make money along the way. Let us know if we can help! ***WE’RE ALSO ON*** - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sailingkittiwake/ - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sailingkittiwake/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/svkittiwake Follow us for live updates, plus extra videos and pictures. ***CAMERAS*** Canon EOS M GoPro Hero 4 Silver ***MUSIC*** gOtam Sen - A Little Bird Told Me - Provided by Jamendo Löhstana David - Elle Va - Provided by Jamendo Ground & Leaves - Dirty River - Provided by Jamendo

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for Storm At Anchor In The Isles Of Scilly | Sailing Kittiwake – Ep. 2

Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
Sailing Britaly we're lost for words Chris & Rossella... such a lovely lovely comment ❤ thanks ever so much. We really appreciate it. Yes, we will treasure those lessons. And you're right - it's kind of good that it happened so early on. We wish the very best to you guys on your upcoming adventure and hope you'll never find yourselves in a similar situation x
syncro16se
syncro16se - 6 years ago
One wonders what kind of anchor or achors the french had. (at least two anchors, one good for rocks and one for sand is necessary at least for me to feel adequately prepared and having a greater chance that one grabs and lessen the risk of dragging considerably)
Also, even in quite moderate winds, it is very useful with two anchors laid out in a v-form formation when anchoring over night behind an island for instance, as it prevemts the boat from zig zaging from side to side against the wind during the night.
I'm amazed at how some sailors have just one (often too small or inadequate) anchor on a 30-40 ft boat). Hopefully they learned a lesson.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 6 years ago
Yes, we totally agree. We think most people buy a small anchor thinking they’ll stay in marinas all the time. We went well oversize, as we know we sleep on the hook every night.
Vilo Conshmillo
Vilo Conshmillo - 6 years ago
I thought Sicily was in Italy :-)
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 6 years ago
It is :) this is the Isles of Scilly.
Lee Davies. SV PATCHAMIE
Lee Davies. SV PATCHAMIE - 6 years ago
I just subscribed to your channel, can't believe what happened on this video. Watched a few channels now and everyone is going for the same type of anchor that you have, as they are very good in a storm. I've got to binge watch all your other video's now to catch up.
Cheers from Lee in South Wales, UK.
Zen Zen
Zen Zen - 6 years ago
I love the music :)
Weston Badke
Weston Badke - 6 years ago
Those boats sound like they were stolen.
Joseph Brendel
Joseph Brendel - 7 years ago
Sailing Kittiwake with all those solar panels why don't you all get a electric motor for the Kittiwake? they are real easy to install, cost next to nothing and you would be motoring FREE (ON SUN POWER) when the sun is out or hiding in clouds you can all ways fall back to your engine or just use the batteries until the panels can run the motor and charge the batteries both at the same time, just saying, Old One Legged Joseph T.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Norman Boyes thanks a lot Norman!
Geremy Chubbuck
Geremy Chubbuck - 7 years ago
Wonderful video, guys! I found your yesterday and can say that your style of sailing videos is very refreshing. I have followed others for some time now and have become disheartened when they turned more commercial. You guys are down to earth and "normal"...don't change. Keep up the great work!

10. comment for Storm At Anchor In The Isles Of Scilly | Sailing Kittiwake – Ep. 2

Silky Jones
Silky Jones - 7 years ago
Ditch the music. Let us hear the quiet.
This is awesome
This is awesome - 7 years ago
Well done! The moral of the story is "never trust the French!" Just kidding. There are tons of stupid boating people out there. Glad you came out of it in one piece...
Robert Isaak
Robert Isaak - 7 years ago
Such great information. Your detailed explanation is so helpful. Thank you!
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Robert Isaak thanks a lot Robert!
Peter Brown
Peter Brown - 7 years ago
Ryan and Elena a cracking little video and very sobering.  I think a number of us have been in same situation with boats around us dragging at one time or another and it is worrying.  I had a safe position in a bay in the Ionian but the wind picked up and a large motor sailor ketch started to drag towards me.  Initially my wife and I thought the yacht was unmanned and we'd have to move but a yacht nearby used its air horn repeatedly and eventually a naked bloke came onto the deck of the yacht that was dragging.  He quickly realised he was in danger and took action which was somewhat comic as he ran between the wheelhouse to manoeuvre and then ran forward to bring up his anchor still stark naked.  Danger averted he moved off into clear water and re-anchored.  Bottom line, and I all the comments I've read pretty much agree, is I think you did everything right to make sure your boat was safe and then to try to get assistance for the yacht that went aground.  Why its crew left their yacht is beyond weird.  Anyway I have had friends who were in RNLI and none would want you not to hesitate to make that shout in such a situation.  It was absolutely tragic there was an accident onboard the lifeboat but you cannot blame yourself for it happening.  I do hope all your viewer support the RNLI as it is a very worthwhile charity and we are lucky to have it plus the volunteers who crew the boats.  Heroes all.  Just a thought that you might want to invest in a second anchor, like a fortress, which stows easily in case you have to abandon you main anchor or want to lay two anchors in the first place for bad weather.  Playing catch up on your videos but wishing you the very best in the meantime.
Peter Brown
Peter Brown - 7 years ago
Ryan and Elena thank you for replying so quickly.  I'll check out your anchoring piece and pleased you are so well prepared.  Safe travels.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Peter Brown thanks so much Peter! We think the lesson we took away is to call the RNLI when necessary, but to always think twice before making decisions - we can put not only ourselves, but other brave volunteers, in danger. These heroes risk their lives to correct our mistakes.
We have a second anchor - a Danforth type - but we wouldn't have trusted it in 60mph winds. It is handy to have on board to anchor for a few hours or as a kedge anchor, which we can deploy from the dinghy.
We have published a short video about our anchoring gear (in the extra section) if you're interested. Thanks again!
nemo
nemo - 7 years ago
Nice! Good lesson and understanding. From a retired master mariner.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+nemo thanks so much Nemo!
tt spid
tt spid - 7 years ago
Wow, there are some great channels just starting. Very well done video and very exiting times, I have binge watch them all. My 2 cents on the matter. If your narrative was accurate, as member of Coastguard myself, let me tell you on first hand that you should not take any blame of what happened to the coastguard member. We train hard to manage this kinds of situation, the safety of our members is paramount, first the safety of our crew, then the safety of the people involved, then our property and at very last other peoples property. Seems like the rescue plan needs to be investigated, so we can learn from it. Please remember even we the most bulletproof plan, things can turn to worse very quickly, that's a risk we take when we decide to do this type of volunteering work. We do it because just like you, we love the ocean. Very good lesson to learn. Better now than later on.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+tt spid thanks so much! It was a very valuable lesson to learn for sure. Thanks for your kind words.
Ian Tyler
Ian Tyler - 7 years ago
What a start to your adventures and what great video production! Don't blame yourself for anything - the lifeboat crewman certainly wouldn't. And well done helping your French neighbours. Especially difficult when their idiocy put you in such danger.
Maybe you need to improve your weather forecasting? When you said we moved to the anchorage well sheltered from the SW, I thought Oh dear that looks open to the NW and, when lows pass by, the wind often veers to North of West. Hey ho! To paraphrase - what doesn't hurt you makes you stronger!
Horst Kotte
Horst Kotte - 7 years ago
Hi, keep up the good work!

The guy didn't loose his foot because you called SAR. He lost his foot because of shotty seamanship of others.

You're bound by law to help vessels in distress and omitting that is rightfully punishable by law. You're not supposed to endanger yourself so the only choice is to call in the professionals. It's not up to you to decide whether the vessel is empty or not, you're supposed to call it in and report the circumstances to the best of your knowledge. Then they decide and if something goes wrong it's a tragedy for sure, as is any work accident.

So yeah, you did everything right, including having "oversized" ground tackle and not dragging across the anchorage. And including asking for a tow instead of crushing on the rocks.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Horst Kotte thanks Horst. Ultimately, it was all a chain of events, we guess. It was just heartbreaking to find out for us :( Thanks a lot for your comment.
Lisa Bayne
Lisa Bayne - 7 years ago
Hi, I really enjoyed your video. Thank you for going into such detail about a disastrous situation. I'm glad you came out of it unscathed. I can only imagine how frightening and exhausting it must have been.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Lisa Bayne thanks a lot Lisa. It was a challenging situation and we feel lucky for having come out of it unscathed. We've learned so much.
Eric
Eric - 7 years ago
Very useful information Thank you.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Eric Gillingham you're very welcome.

20. comment for Storm At Anchor In The Isles Of Scilly | Sailing Kittiwake – Ep. 2

Adam Park
Adam Park - 7 years ago
Just two episodes in....and again, professional production, truly imaginative accompanying sounds. adventure and compelling personality - look forward to more! Safe sailing.
Schpankme Verimuch
Schpankme Verimuch - 7 years ago
Moral of the Story: Alcoholic sailors can cost your foot.
Bob S.
Bob S. - 7 years ago
Good lessons well learned. Life at sea is serious business and those who take the sea lightly usually regret it. Safe voyages!
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Bob S. Very true. Thanks Bob!
Dave Prince
Dave Prince - 7 years ago
Wow amazing I love the Helford and what an experience you had, it's experiences like that, that you learn from and never forget. Great to see a new Brit sailing channel I'm hooked. I hope its all going well for you al, the best Dave
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
Thanks so much Dave!
thedrloboski stevens
thedrloboski stevens - 7 years ago
You Board that boat in the rock,, Raise the main and even the jib, lay its on its side and have it pulled back to deep water. Ive grounded boats a lot worse than that.
thedrloboski stevens
thedrloboski stevens - 7 years ago
Yes, I understand your fears, I lost my wife on are first sailing trip, No, she didn't die, but when that boats windows got wet she freaked and booked..lol What id of done is use the dingy to get to the bow of the boat and tied a rope on to it and then tied to your sailboat. I also always carried a gallon of resin and cheese cloth to fix holes. Sailing can indeed be very dangerous or fatal even. Sometimes though and it will happen in your life, you'll have to tuffen up. I assure you, things happen and the Coast Guard won't always be there. You can also pull on a mast and pull it over that way in some cases.. Just saying. Good luck anyway"s.. I subscribed.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+thedrloboski stevens hi, we weren't going to risk our lives to save the boat, we're not trained or equiped for it, never mind the fact that we couldn't have gotten into our dinghy in the wind and waves conditions or the fact that the casualty boat was holed and taking on water. To my mind it's much safer all round for the RNLI to carry out the rescue as they're much better equipped and infinitely more experienced with such things. When we spoke to the coastguard they asked us to try to tell the French guys to not get back on their boat, we certainly wouldn't have tried. Also if a lifeboat can't pull it off the rocks, I very much doubt it could have been pulled off by our dinghy in 60 knot winds with our 2.5hp yamaha :)
mr zif001
mr zif001 - 7 years ago
i'll crew for you guys anytime!
Tom Parker
Tom Parker - 7 years ago
In your first episode you mentioned that you both work on your laptop a few hours a week to provide income. My question is, doing what ? Please forgive my ignorance on the matter as I have been a machinist most of my life and I only know how to make a living with my hands. I would like to do the same thing as the two of you only on the west coast of America. Cheers.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Tom Parker no worries at all Tom! We do online marketing for a hanful of clients and get paid by hour. Elena has worked in the field for the past few years so she got work from word-of-mouth before we set off. We now work about 3 days a week, while we cruise.
Ryan is also hoping to find some more practical work during the winter, doing boat maintenance work for other cruisers.
John Carroll
John Carroll - 7 years ago
Did you say the life boat man lost his foot or injured it? Your refit of the boat was really well thought out for storage and looks really smart inside. I'd imagine the value of the boat has increased markedly.
Sailing Moneypenny
Sailing Moneypenny - 7 years ago
Hi Drama! Hope you enjoyed Scilly. What a lovely spot.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Sailing Moneypenny yes, on a warm sunny day they are stunning islands!
David Hutchings
David Hutchings - 7 years ago
Hello from Sydney Australia where we also own a catamaran. My wife and I are from the UK and started sailing in a 30' catamaran in when we lived in Bournemouth. We sailed away on a 48' trimaran with 3 kids. You two seem to be very sensible, thoughtful and willing to research and learn about sailing. These are excellent attributes. I have a good feeling that you will make a huge success of this venture and have a lot of fun, especially in the warmer weather! I look forward to following you. Cheers!
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Blazerade13 cheers Blaze! Would love to hear more about your boats. Thanks for your kind words, we're always trying to learn more and we think that's really important on the sea!

30. comment for Storm At Anchor In The Isles Of Scilly | Sailing Kittiwake – Ep. 2

sukalanger
sukalanger - 7 years ago
great videos annoying music
Bill23799
Bill23799 - 7 years ago
Oh, I forgot to ask.
Is " The Isles of Scilly " where the constituents who created the Ministry of Scilly Walks were from?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2ViNJFZC8

The link is for those who are NOT older than dirt ....as I am.
Bill23799
Bill23799 - 7 years ago
Thank you for the very interesting video. I clicked Like and i subscribed.

The only other sailing YT channel I watch on a regular basis is Gone With The Wynns.
Wow what a difference. While I like the couple on the Wynns channel I think I will enjoy yours
just as much if not more.

Their cat is like a well kept used Lexus while yours seems to be like a 30 year old Ford Transit van that
never left the hometown very much. Please don't be offended as I drive a 1990 Plymouth Grand Voyager Mini Van.
Yes it is a clunker but it is paid for and it gets me to my Dr. Appointments at the VA and to the food store.
I need little more at this time in my life.

It was sad to learn the Coast Guardsman lost his foot during the attempted boat rescue. You should not blame yourself.
You called in a vessel in distress, it was your duty I think in that situation.
It seems to me you acted responsibly in being sure to dig in your heavy anchor and not leave your vessel in high winds.

I look forward to seeing more of your adventures.
Patrick van Wijland
Patrick van Wijland - 7 years ago
Thanks for sharing. Great video. And these islands are still on my hot list
Arnie Peterschmidt
Arnie Peterschmidt - 7 years ago
I just watched Episode 2 and was transfixed by the recounting of the storm and it’s consequences. The freshness of the incident and the impacts to the two of you were obvious and I could not go on without responding.

I am a former member of the U.S. Coast Guard, the service responsible for maritime safety in U.S. waters. During my time in service I was a direct participant in approximately 1000 search and rescue operations. Most of the time I was on shore answering calls for assistance and coordinating search and rescue operations between multiple Coast Guard stations, boats and aircraft but I also went out on the boats as deck crew. The scenario that you experienced and recounted in the Scilly Isles was typical of the urgent rescue work that I participated in.

The two of you conducted yourselves brilliantly coping with this difficult, dynamic and dangerous situation especially considering your somewhat limited experience. You kept your wits about you, kept up with the changing conditions, knew your boat and the limitations of the actions that you could take, took effective action to prevent a collision and provided real assistance to those in distress. Nobody could have expected or asked for anything more from you.

There is a point in the video where you seem to blame yourselves for the injury to the lifeboat crewman. You should not, the two of you are in no way to blame for for that accident. The crewman was injured because he (or she) or a crew-mate made a mistake that put that crewman in a position that they should never have been in. Your decision to call for assistance did not cause the injury. You had no control over the actions of the Coast Guard.  They are the trained professionals, they decided, based on their orders, experience and capabilities, to come to the scene and to move the lifeboat into a dangerous situation. You merely communicated the situation to them as you should have. Never hesitate to call when you or others are in need of assistance.

Through your cautious, thoughtful and educated approach to seamanship the two of you are well on your way to becoming expert sailors and are a credit to your maritime community. Bravo!
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Arnie Peterschmidt Arnie, what a thoughtful comment. Thank you ever so much. We know deep down we did what was best, but it still hurts to think that poor man was seriously injured and his life completely changed. We hope this video makes people think and be extra careful in bad weather conditions. Fair winds, Elena & Ryan
ken Passeri
ken Passeri - 7 years ago
The French boats were probably bareboat charterers and as such had very little experience. They committed the Cardinal Sin of seamanship, Colreg #5: Keep a watch, and paid the (next to) ultimate price. Sorry to hear of the loss of limb of the Coast Guard crew. You guys, on the other hand, got it right, even with what sounds like limited cruising experience, you had the instincts to prepare and above all, stand watch throughout the gale. Nice work. aside: Might you need a more powerful motor/engine? Love your channel ( compared to the myriad of available ones) and will live vicariously through you guys. Safe travels.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+ken Passeri what a lovely comment Ken! Thanks so much. Although we had limited cruising experience, we built up quite a bit of knowledge by reading all we could before setting off, including anchoring techniques, which helped a lot. There are instances where we struggle to power Kittiwake in strong winds, so we can't always rely on the engine as a safety backup, but we compensate for this with our heavy duty anchoring gear and we try to be extra careful about lee shores.
alex bowling
alex bowling - 7 years ago
Stuart Crabbe we were there in late august and I watched another French boat get dragged overnight onto rocks off Bryher. It definitely didn't get above F5....
Carlos Marques
Carlos Marques - 7 years ago
love you guys!!!
Justin nitsuj
Justin nitsuj - 7 years ago
13:05 That reasoning makes no sense. less everything led to them losing their foot. including say having your foot in the wrong place. Now who's responsible for what? You're responsible for calling the coast guard....their probably responsible for their foot, depending on the country, they may have a boss and legislation that spreads the responsibility of health and safety....just like the laws regarding duty and calling for assistance.
Roy Clare
Roy Clare - 7 years ago
Hi guys, I’m a life-long sailor and follow a number of the sailing channels on Youtube. Only just found yours. Like your style very much, so I’ve subscribed. Quite an adventure in the Scillies, but - as others have noted - while the accident to the lifeboatman is a real tragedy it is not your doing. I’ll follow your voyage with genuine interest. By the way, did you recover your anchor ok? Fair winds, Roy
TERRIBLYBRITISH
TERRIBLYBRITISH - 7 years ago
Well done guys
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+TERRIBLYBRITISH cheers!
Cigarmann
Cigarmann - 7 years ago
Those nasty Frogs!
John Fox
John Fox - 7 years ago
Loved the video, tossed a Patreon pledge your way.

Word of warning, if you get to $1,000/video I stop giving and find some other new vlogger to help out. :-)
Super ADI
Super ADI - 7 years ago
Hy, I like and watch all your video s, all this because I love so much this way of life not to mention that Heavy Twin's is really my favorite little catamaran, from my point of view is the best in his class. And one question for Elena: you are from Romania? Your name sound so Romanian name :) Cheer's Ryan and Elena and good wind's from aft :)
Snake Plisken
Snake Plisken - 7 years ago
You absolutely did the right thing calling the coast guard. Just a freak accident. They also could have saved a life...you never know. Be safe, be alert and have fun. Waiting for you in Florida...
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Snake Plisken thanks a lot. We did come to the conclusion that what we did was the only thing to do, but we're still sad for the poor man who lost his foot.
mick mccrohon
mick mccrohon - 7 years ago
A terrible way to learn a valuable lesson.
It sounds like you did everything right and the guilt isn't yours.
I hope the others understand the grief they caused.
Thanks for sharing, I will never forget your example.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+mick mccrohon thanks so much for the kind words Mick! It's a lesson we'll never forget.
FrenchAM100
FrenchAM100 - 7 years ago
Wow,quite an adventure,and very sobering. Really no idea why the two other boats went ashore without leaving a watch with the gales forecast but you did all you could and more so hats off to you. Andy
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+FrenchAM100 thanks Andy! You're very kind.
neo culm
neo culm - 7 years ago
Well done guys, I also have just started out, it;s a massive learning curve and at times can be scarey, endevour to persevere! The french boats were unusually cavalier and negligent. Such an expensive boat too, one can only think they were rich enough to think they were above such normal concerns, but the sea cares nothing for arrogance but will always punish those who place themselves incorrect;ly in it without the due respect and skill. It is a true wilderness, no place for the flippant and disrespectful heart. Unusual to find such kinds in french sailors though
legend343
legend343 - 7 years ago
I don't see how your actions caused the harm but I understand what you're saying.. you done what you could. You anchored well and it held.. possibly a pan pan instead of a mayday as it wasn't you that was in trouble but that's maybe what you meant regarding "relay a mayday" And you certainly cannot blame yourselves for the poor guy losing his foot.
Warren
s/y Legend
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+legend343 hi Warren, thanks for your message and kind words.
In terms of mayday relay vs pan pan, a mayday is to be used when there is an imminent danger to a vessel or person. A pan pan would be if there is no immediate danger to a vessel or person. In the situation we were involved in, a mayday was therefore appropriate and as we were doing it for another vessel, we used a mayday relay.
Fair winds to SY Legend!
The Butte Life
The Butte Life - 7 years ago
Pure insanity. So much craziness. Great video. Thanks for making and sharing.

50. comment for Storm At Anchor In The Isles Of Scilly | Sailing Kittiwake – Ep. 2

Sailing LunaSea
Sailing LunaSea - 7 years ago
Been doing jobs for everyone else - finally able to get to our own boat projects this week! Heading out next week in the #creepyvan for a cross country road trip. Life on the hard is, well, hard. ;)
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Sailing LunaSea wow so many compliments! Thanks a lot guys! How's life on the hard? Getting lots of boat work done?
Sail Before Sunset
Sail Before Sunset - 7 years ago
I wish there were more responsible sailors out there like you two.
AdventuresOnBoats.com
AdventuresOnBoats.com - 7 years ago
Wow! What a way to start your sailing adventure. I am sure you have learned a lot of lessons that will be invaluable in your future. Keep up the good work.
-johnny
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+AdventuresOnBoats.com thanks a lot Johnny! We've learned so much just in those 24hours! And much more since then :)
Allan Cuthbertson
Allan Cuthbertson - 7 years ago
Hi both, "where are we heading next you asked?" Due to the eye watering cost of marinas in the med we select an area of interest and negotiate a stay for a year, being the best value and not having to rush anywhere in particular being retired. During our year at a marina we are joined by family and friends and for our purpose it is fantastic. I share looking after my mother with my brother so, I split my time between sailing and life at home. I have three "children" and they use Artemis as a (no cost) hotel when we are absent. We are having a wonderful retirement, we see our five grandchildren when home and sailing. During our recent leg from Rome to Sicily we had three grandchildren and their parents for 650 nauticals! When at home we fly our Microlights! I think we are one of the few families that have managed to fly and sail for recreation!!! In reply to your question, we have planned a sailing trip to Malta but nothing else. We will do most of our travelling by public transport, hiring a car for a few weeks before returning to the UK on each occasion & also use the car to return us to the airport on our departure day to save taxi costs. Marinas are even more expensive for cats and I can well imagine that you find it outside your budget. It's usually possible to have a free night in a Marina if you arrive late & tie up to the fuel pontoon. Can be a bit nosey if there are fishing boats using the same facility. If the night watchman directs you to another area, it's still a free night at the Marina and as a bonus, use the Marina cafe for WiFi, provisions etc. Some marinas and harbours will offer you a buoy at a much reduced cost if you explain to the owner your limited sailing budget. During your passage to the med you will be faced with trying weather and night passages that can be exhausting. We make a "bed" on one side of the cockpit, and swop the watch every two hours or so & are always clipped in. Needless to say, we have severely tested our credit cards to stay safe! The nice thing with marinas is peace of mind whilst away from your boat exploring the local area. Kindest regards, A&A.
Allan Cuthbertson
Allan Cuthbertson - 7 years ago
Thank you very much for your story. Grabbing the camera just does not come to mind during a situation and we have experienced a few! You have reminded us of our cruising start back in summer 2014. After both of us retiring we passaged out of Milford Haven with my youngest son and his wife who accompanied us to Vigo, (nw Spain).Our first stop out of Milford was a buoy at St Mary's and we had a pleasant few days, happening upon the long boat race festivities! Our next destination was to be France as we were heading for the Med but when a storm was forecast we sailed to Falmouth and spent a lovely week there, exploring the Chain Locker (& the local area!). We have now clocked 4002 nauticals and are presently in Sicily (via Morocco, 56 marinas & 40 anchorages!). We use Weather4D Pro, an inexpensive AP which is an amazing tool for our purpose. There have been occasions when it's missed local winds around mountainous areas but the majority of the time it's spot on. We began our sailing back in the late 70's with a Hurley 21' constructed with marine ply (= lots of work restoring her!!) and over the years we have learnt to dive for the nearest marina in a blow. Sailing to Falmouth was a significant deviation from our plan but saved a battering off the Atlantic coast of France and gave us a super unplanned holiday in the beautiful Fal area. Kindest regards, A&A.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Allan Cuthbertson thanks a lot for your comment Allan. Sounds like you've been on the same voyage we're undertaking :) Well done for clocking all those miles! Going to Falmouth was a good call. We've learned to look for protection further since. We tend to avoid marinas (never been to one yet). It's worked ok so far. Where are you heaed next?
Caiden coffman
Caiden coffman - 7 years ago
Calling the coastgaurd is almost always a good idea. Its kinda harsh, but its the coastgaurds fault for the accident they had on that boat. The coastgaurd stopped those people from getting back onto that boat, and who knows, they mightve died on it
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Caiden coffman thanks a lot for your comment. We've come to the conclusion that calling them was the right thing to do. As you say, they're the professionals and they're in the best place to make decisions.
Scott Stevens
Scott Stevens - 7 years ago
Nice narrative of proper anchor handling! As well as keeping watch during the blow. A little knowledge goes a long way!!! Thank yoi
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Scott Stevens thanks a lot Scott. As new sailors, we try to be extra careful and it's paid off so far.
Jenna Robinson
Jenna Robinson - 7 years ago
Brilliant. Ryan I can imagine you were totally unimpressed by the whole debacle! Happy sailing.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Jenna Robinson hey Jen! Accidents can happen to anyone I guess. We were mostly just worried about the boat and the people involved. - Ryan
lungarotta
lungarotta - 7 years ago
Very good video, interesting (even if dramatic) story. Well done and TFS.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
lungarotta thanks a lot!
ScubaTony Anschutz
ScubaTony Anschutz - 7 years ago
I'm no expert but it sounds like you both all you could and made good choices. The crew of the life boat are well trained and responsible for there own actions so don't second guess yourself there. THere were a lot of mistakes you could have made that you didn't so be proud of yourselves and remember these lessons for your future happy cruising life!
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+ScubaTony Anschutz thanks a lot for the kind words Tony! Fair winds to you.
Wave Dancer
Wave Dancer - 7 years ago
Despite France produced some famous sailors, most of the Frenchies are simply dangerous fellows in terms of seamanship. Stay away from ther boats!
Wave Dancer
Wave Dancer - 7 years ago
The Manson Surpreme Anchor is a smart choice! I used this type of anchor for years as main anchor in SE-Asia! It never let me down!
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+Wave Dancer thanks! We love it so far - it's got a very reassuring bite when you reverse on it and it's never dragged. Wow we're jalous of your SE Asia adventures!
SV Windfall
SV Windfall - 7 years ago
Well done.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
+SV Windfall cheers!
Dawn Connelly
Dawn Connelly - 7 years ago
Oh my goodness. It's experiences like these that make us better sailors. You guys did great. Look forward to seeing more of your voyage. Now it really begins!
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
Dawn Connelly thanks for the kind words Dawn. We can only try to be as careful as we can and learn as we go. Fair winds!
Stephen Lediard
Stephen Lediard - 7 years ago
Did the lifeboat crewman really loose his foot? What a terrible situation. When the wind starts blowing sailing is a completely different ball game. Thanks for sharing this information and good sailing.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
Stephen Lediard yes, according to what we heard from the locals it sadly happened on the scene. Thanks Stephen.
Lotophagi
Lotophagi - 7 years ago
Excellent. Remember you are in cat so that you can tuck right in the shallows and anchor fore and aft. Even take the ground especially where there is a large tidal range :-)
Sailing VIO
Sailing VIO - 7 years ago
loved it , great vid . best wishes Phil
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
Sailing VIO thanks a lot Phil! All the best, Elena and Ryan
evanofelipe
evanofelipe - 7 years ago
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I've sailed several times to the Scillies from Falmouth and Plymouth over the years and have known many experienced 'yachties' who openly admit they would not go there, simply because the area affords limited protection and can be very exposed to quickly changing weather conditions, particularly during late Summer. As a low passes its not unusual for wind direction to turn 180 degrees, turning a protected 'off shore' anchorage into a 'lee shore', as you soon discovered. The problem then is that your once anchor has been successfully set to cope with initially encountered winds it is rotated on the sea bed when the wind direction changes and can be dislodged and break free under strain.

The considered safe option when bad weather is ever likely or forecast for the Scillies, is to leave the Islands altogether and run for a sheltered anchorage off mainland Cornwall. Failing that find somewhere between the islands (dependent upon weather) say to New Grimsby Sound between Tesco and Bryher (but its not good in SSE/NNW) So when the wind direction changes you can gain some shelter. The Scilly Isles offer beautiful cruising grounds, but that beauty comes at a price and is much loved by French skippers. You did well to keep your boat safe. Were you eventually able to recover your anchor? - Evano
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
evanofelipe Hi Evano, thanks for the message. I think in hindsight your ideas would have been better, anchoring between the islands like you say may be safer, or better still run for cover on the mainland. One trimaran sailor we spoke to afterwards had done just that.

It is a stunning place when the sun's out though!

We did retrieve our anchor a couple of days later without any trouble, thanks.
Carl Michael
Carl Michael - 7 years ago
The boat looks great. I still need to do all that work on my Snowgoose, but figured I'd enjoy her over the summer first.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
Thanks a lot! We did the same when we bough Kittiwake - enjoyed what was left of the summer (a couple of weeks!) and then started the boat works in the winter. Our surveyor said she was fine for that season :)
Ian K
Ian K - 7 years ago
As someone who is looking at either a sub 35ft Catalac, Prout or Heavenly twins in the near future how have you found the Hobby horsing or Pitching to be with your boat? I hear they are prone to it because of the hull rockers.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
awaiting sailing Hi, one thing you'll need to think about with the HT (and possibly with any of those boats) is weight distribution. This seems to make a massive difference on our boat. If I (Ryan - 80kgs) go and sit right at the front or back of the boat when there's a lumpy sea, the boat will start hobbyhorsing. But it you're aware of the weight and plan around it then it rarely occurs. We store 100kgs of water on the front deck but make sure its at the back of the front deck. We've also got about 150-200kgs of anchoring gear in the front locker. But with the weight just a little further back we don't get much hobbyhorsing. One thing I have noticed is that if we are anchored in say 7m of water and are cleated to the chain, then the weight of the chain that far forward can exacerbate any rolliness in the anchorage. Not sure if that's obvious or not, but it wasn't to us and it makes a world of difference to our boat if we cleat it off with the depth of water in rope out. Hope that makes sense. Best of luck!
Stephen Mundane
Stephen Mundane - 7 years ago
Honest storytelling and a fine choice of music -- great stuff. I've definitely learned a few lessons from your experience -- thanks. And thanks for bringing us along on your adventure. I hope to get to the Isles of Scilly one day too.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
Stephen Mundane cheers! You're very kind. We hope you get to see the best of these beautiful islands. Fair winds!
arumrunner
arumrunner - 7 years ago
I love your musical choices and your editing is spot on!

When cruising there is often the situation where as another vessel anchors within "your comfort zone". Then there is the fact that you do not want to seem like an uptight safety nanny and ask them to move. However, your gut feeling is often right, and you are protecting your vessel and home. Thus having a polite, if firm, conversation with the other vessel is not only appropriate, it is proper. If that fails, you have the ultimate option to move to a safer location.

Carry on, I'm enjoying the adventure!
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
arumrunner thanks a lot for the compliments!
We've become a bit more firm about other people anchoring near us since. It was difficult in this situation because of the language barrier and lack of space in the anchorage (the only spot protected from the forecasted winds in the archipelago).
Mark Hazelden
Mark Hazelden - 7 years ago
What a way to start out! The lost boat was completely preventable. You had the right strategy. You'll do well. Enjoy!
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
Mark Hazelden thanks Mark. Like you say, there were a whole host of things which led to the accident and on reflection us notifying Falmouth Coastguard was not the root cause. We're just upset for the guy.
Mark Hazelden
Mark Hazelden - 7 years ago
By the way, your calling for help didn't cause the man's injury. The crew of that boat caused the chain of events by both not anchoring properly and leaving their boat before a forecasted storm. You probably saved their lives by calling for help which got them off the boat.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
Mark Hazelden thanks for your lovely words Mark. Thankfully there hasn't been any drama like that since. Touch wood!
Drzee1968
Drzee1968 - 7 years ago
To add to other comments, Wow! A really challenging start, well done for coming out of it OK
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
Drzee1968 thanks! We've decided it was beginner's luck. We've definitely learned a lot from the experience.
Anton Nath
Anton Nath - 7 years ago
Great video - I was on the edge of my seat with the shipwreck story. Glad you are both OK.
Sailing Kittiwake
Sailing Kittiwake - 7 years ago
Anton Nath thanks Anton. We were really lucky to get out of there completely OK. It was a sad incident. We've learned a lot in those 3 weeks.
john wheatley
john wheatley - 7 years ago
Wow !! That was a lot of drama so early on into your adventure.... :)
john wheatley
john wheatley - 7 years ago
Oh no..... Thats dreadful, but unfortunately thefts seem to happen to most of the sailing community that I follow on here, including my brother, whom had his tender stolen in Gosport harbour.... :( Very best wishes to you both, and stay safe... Cheers :)

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