A video to save surfers from themselves.

Do yourself a favor and watch this before you come to the Mentawai Islands.

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Do yourself a favor and watch this before you come to the Mentawai Islands.

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RussellRoesner
RussellRoesner - 6 years ago
Damn....this guy is pretty stern. A little advice....its not against the law to make a joke or two dude and not be so darn serious!
Daniel Citron
Daniel Citron - 6 years ago
Thanks King Neptune...
Praetorian Vale
Praetorian Vale - 6 years ago
No body cares about how hard you rip, especially if your going over the falls ....

#facts and this video truly shows how it should be everywhere, no matter where you are at or the lineup
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ONE MORE FISH
ONE MORE FISH - 6 years ago
OK if you need to read up on this you should not be surfing for one common sense go to Oahu Hawaii find the Westside Makaha surf break paddle out there as close to the little hotel there as possible right through the middle of the reef Winter then go in front of any surfer and take off if your white haole boy they will let you have any wave you want take off right in front of them.very nice people.Aloha!
Scott Keagy
Scott Keagy - 6 years ago
At these surf camps with longest-wait etiquette, can you pay someone to paddle out and sit there for you? So you chill on the beach getting a massage or something, then paddle out 5 minutes before your turn? Everything else seems like common sense to anyone who has surfed long enough to not die during the paddle-out to a place like this.
Chevy Anderson
Chevy Anderson - 6 years ago
I like the idea. but there are so many jerks in surfing. It's such a solo sport. the jerks rule.bullying. i am not from this cloth.
Sinjinbin 64
Sinjinbin 64 - 6 years ago
Only if everyone plays by the same rules...Snake me and Ill likely snake you...
oona sidoroff
oona sidoroff - 6 years ago
i understand etiquete but every person shown surfing in this vid is a kook. the reason you need all these rules is because you guys have kooks coming to town
Ian Robinson
Ian Robinson - 6 years ago
Great video. Thank you for sharing.

10. comment for A video to save surfers from themselves.

eduardo brigham
eduardo brigham - 6 years ago
the actual rule to who is first on the wave is... the right of way.. he who enters the wave closest to the breaking point has the right of the way.
Zane Westwood
Zane Westwood - 6 years ago
don"t come to Australia
Petra Liebetanz
Petra Liebetanz - 6 years ago
I think that the waiting system is ok but if your the only one in the lineup you should go for it if somebody is still going out
Castelo Do Mar
Castelo Do Mar - 6 years ago
These are good rules for everywhere in the world. Come to Maroubra and violate these rules and you'll get your head bashed in. Play nice and nobody gets hurt.
Mr Mr
Mr Mr - 6 years ago
Who the fuck is this Seppo idiot with his "rules"? For starters it's Indonesia, & it is NOT the "Ment-a-wais" as he says. It's the Men-tar-wees or Men-tar-whys. His Indonesian is obviously his style, not Indonesian. I'd like to see him tell me what to do. Fucking Americans. They tried this shit at Cloudbreak in Fiji too, and when they came over the Wilkes Passage we fucking gave it to them.
Donald J Trump
Donald J Trump - 6 years ago
Fuck local rule
nvzble
nvzble - 6 years ago
I have only seen these and heard about those rules online and only online - I’m a beginner surfer I always go out there paddle and miss and get in people way ( not on purpose of course this can not be a joke ) I always find someone to give me a tip every fucken time that I’m out there .. where is those beaches that u guys talk about where local rule .. it s fucken ocean no one own the fucken ocean .. stay respectful and safe and don’t let anyone make you feel like it s their ocean .. god damn it ..
henryssurfshowcase
henryssurfshowcase - 6 years ago
Those are some awesome clean waves!
Hard for me to imagine that kind of surfing disrespect for each other can happen there also.....
Luke Skywalker
Luke Skywalker - 6 years ago
Lol all these rules, u don't understand surfing
Luke Skywalker
Luke Skywalker - 6 years ago
Lol if uv been waiting the longest that just means u suck

20. comment for A video to save surfers from themselves.

22 A Day No Way
22 A Day No Way - 6 years ago
Watch. 22adaynoway
Ngatai Watson
Ngatai Watson - 6 years ago
Awesome, thank you for the tips and sharing your knowledge.
Luke Golden
Luke Golden - 6 years ago
solid tips
julian hobrough
julian hobrough - 6 years ago
I am an old surfer. I’ve done everything. Since 1959. I surfed with the best, I shaped in Australia, and surfed all over. And we brought the short board into the world. George Greenough, Bob McTavish, Nat Young. Nothing changes. Drop in? You become the problem. Don’t drop in. Simple. Learn the rules.
Josh Randal
Josh Randal - 6 years ago
I surfed once. I loved it. However it just was not worth the ire. Most surfers play by the other set of rules. On the drive to the break, in the water, and at the beer house. 10% I have up a chat, the rest can join Foo.
B A
B A - 6 years ago
It'll be very hard to keep track who's turn it is . Especially when it's crowded with like 40-50 guys. Also the first priority guy might let three waves go untill he took off on the fourth wave and now who'll be keeping count. But i get your rules and it's the basic ocean rule to follow. It's very hard to let kooks get the big waves, because they'll waste it. But just don't be a hog cheeser!
KX5Kat
KX5Kat - 6 years ago
It's usually a few greedy bastards (usually longboarders) going for everything and then it becomes a free for all with everyone fighting for a wave.
drumisland
drumisland - 7 years ago
I think some commenters here do not comprehend the difference between a resort location and a remote location. I believe different rules apply, and each set of rules can be watered down, based on the proficiency of a rider. Great skill has been navigating through newcomers ad infinitum. Resorts are capitalist bastions, but they are not going to disappear - so they have the rules set out here, usually maintained by employees. It's very shortsighted to think the rules expressed here apply (subjectively) to your own break. Jesus, come up to western Canada in 45 degree water and try prancing around on either side of the fence. Blank stares.
Doradosurfcharters Sam
Doradosurfcharters Sam - 7 years ago
mentahell islands you guys .....resort/ boat/ crew brought it on ,,,,,now deal with it!
infloslinger
infloslinger - 7 years ago
All localism debates aside, there are some good tips for the unsuspecting noob, I am sure these chain of islands sees complete ignorance, hence the video. Also, the barrel tip at the end is pure gold. Some of these people going for it in the video dont even look like intermediates! Its amazing to me as surfer from FL who mostly rides knee high slop.

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Reed Rowan
Reed Rowan - 7 years ago
Dumb as shit just go into priority jesus
SunnyCoast POV
SunnyCoast POV - 7 years ago
bro your kook its who every is on the fucking inside shut up you know nothing
mixumup1
mixumup1 - 7 years ago
I went surfing and didnt know any of this, i knew about locals acting territorial like thugs but i was feeling like fuck a local ill kick somebody ass if they say some shit to me. Didnt know i was endangering people by lack of knowledge... Yall should talk to and warn newbies you see. Nobody wanted to talk to us
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Hey mixumup1, thanks for the comment. Being told what is right and wrong certainly helps a lot of newbies to make sense of the sometimes strange etiquette in surfing. Feel free to pass the link for this video onto anybody you think it would help. Thanks for your support!
Brian Gillham
Brian Gillham - 7 years ago
All correct except for the longest wait... Surfer on the INSIDE has right of way... Everything after that is a drop-in!
Dead_Outsane71
Dead_Outsane71 - 7 years ago
good to know since I'm just starting to surf
jpalf1
jpalf1 - 7 years ago
I agree with the video, there has obviously been so many accidents that did not need to happen. Take it easy, It's all about waves and fun. Its just a bummer there are so many surfers these days. I also see the side of guys spending big bucks and wanting your quota of barrels, it can be frustrating. You need a lot of experience to surf here safely. Wish i was back in the 80's still.
Atomik DonkycannoN
Atomik DonkycannoN - 7 years ago
This shoud be the standard everywhere. Well done
Jack Kaul
Jack Kaul - 7 years ago
The life guard who was talking ur so fucking stupid its not (tahipo) its pernounced (chopu)
Tanner Bayless
Tanner Bayless - 7 years ago
Surfers etiquette my boys
Cherry Blossom Forge
Cherry Blossom Forge - 7 years ago
First: Wavepark is so huge that if you are stacked up it is usually with your friends that you came their with.
Second: If you don't know simple etiquette by now then you got no business being out there.
R H
R H - 7 years ago
A bloke dropped in on me so I just caught a good look at him and he happened to be in the same bar as me that night so I went up behind him and pissed on him
BlacKwoLF CoNsPiracY
BlacKwoLF CoNsPiracY - 7 years ago
Hmm booties?
Jarrett Holloway
Jarrett Holloway - 7 years ago
Someone share this with Tony @ Lowers.
Shari Smith Dunaif
Shari Smith Dunaif - 7 years ago
These comments represent who's in the line up: children who have tantrums when they don't get what they want when they want it, & adults who understand they are not the center of the universe, but part of it & see the bigger picture. Behaviors we encounter just as in life. So tell me to fuck off, and I hear the pathetic child - regardless of age.
Never Mind
Never Mind - 7 years ago
Surf Guides? Now theres one for the books. This video left out the most important tip of all. If your a rich punk and need to listen to these clues, try staying home.
Nordic Muslim
Nordic Muslim - 7 years ago
Great now all I need is the ocean, money and a surfboard.
Landon Rapp
Landon Rapp - 7 years ago
Kj
Not a Sage
Not a Sage - 7 years ago
damn I'll just stick to sand and rock beaches
china man
china man - 7 years ago
thanks big z
Phil Person
Phil Person - 7 years ago
Ok I know you guys are tryna be helpful, but the second rules are introduced to surfing, the sport is dead

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Tiger H. Lore
Tiger H. Lore - 7 years ago
Just as important, don't rape other surfers unless the rape is consensual.
ClausenLT
ClausenLT - 7 years ago
This would be all well and good if every surfer could predict exactly where a wave was going to break and when...this is why we have real rules! The person closest to the peak has priority! Also, the person skilled enough to be on that PEAK HAS PRIORITY!

Taking turns...LOL...that's not how we all learned how to surf!
Matt Jack
Matt Jack - 7 years ago
Thank you for this video.
Ash Smith
Ash Smith - 7 years ago
try explaining this at bondi beach, i used to be a grommet 20 years ago and the place was fucked; filled with tourists, gumbies and zombies. now it's unsurfable in peak season.
help ma boab
help ma boab - 7 years ago
I take any wave I can get and if anyone says fuck all they get smashed bigtime fucking fags thinking they have rules on waves ect THERES NO LAWS THAT SAYS U HAVE TO FKN WAIT
The Kiwi Angler
The Kiwi Angler - 7 years ago
Complete BS.
iz wa
iz wa - 7 years ago
Great advice! Wish I could surf there #BucketList
Bajuri Oxa
Bajuri Oxa - 7 years ago
great stuff man ...great stuff!
Nate Adams
Nate Adams - 7 years ago
ummm why are ejections not cool? I dont care what is cool or not its fun
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Hi Nate, thanks for your interest and comment. Ejections are super fun, and we don't really care what's cool either. But the Mentawai Islands are 180km from the nearest hospital over open ocean; no helicopters available. So what we're saying is that when people fly off the back of a wave with an elastic leash attached to their legs, the board can fly back and cause bad injuries. Or, like happened at Lance's Left a few years ago, a surfer's board landed before he did, and he ended up breaking his neck when his head hit the board. He was paralyzed and sunk, luckily to be retrieved by his mates who were paying attention. In our opinion, to take risks like that out in the islands is not worth the "fun" factor involved. I hope that helps clear things up?
Sean Mastro
Sean Mastro - 7 years ago
Ya...if your talking Pacific Northwest USA, then yes you will be alone..all alone...Da na....Da Naa...........
Hal Heywood
Hal Heywood - 7 years ago
wtf
Kevin Ventura
Kevin Ventura - 7 years ago
GAY
adunn413
adunn413 - 7 years ago
OMG,..I had to shut the video down after a couple mins. I don't think a bashing is in order like a few others, but I would just like to say I agree with surf etiquette for sure. Not sure I agree with all this wait your turn stuff. Whoever sits in the right spot gets the waves. When that takes place along with knowledge of surfing and experience, everything else falls in place. Most people who surf understand the concept and don't need it spelled out to them. As far as a surf camps concerned, I'm sure you guys do a great job pleasing money paying guests. I also get where the other passionate folks are coming from.
Just a prime example of different opinions and views. Let your surfing do the talking. No one owns the surf, there's already an understanding out there in the waves. If someones an ass, they'll hear about it from everyone else trust me. Take a surf trip to Hawaii and try to surf making rules. I lived there for 5 years, they don't play with nonsense. Better know what you're doing, show respect, and everyone gets waves.
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Thanks for watching and for sharing your views.
Considering you shut down after a couple mins, you might want to take the time to watch the rest of it? A lot of people have found the back 1/2 especially helpful to prepare for their trip to Mentawai. Cheers!
Bliss Monk
Bliss Monk - 7 years ago
If you can scrape your knuckles at this place by duck diving I don't think I'm ready for such a wave lol.
the dude
the dude - 7 years ago
Get the fuck off the wave asshole...thats my stragety
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
I've definitely seen that strategy used successfully before.
Snowy Grainius
Snowy Grainius - 7 years ago
this guy sounds miserable
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Not miserable, just terribly lacking in my vocal training. Thanks for watching!
Shane O'keeffe
Shane O'keeffe - 7 years ago
you really take the time to talk all this crap!!!??? Surfing in Mentawais is just surfing. All sorts itself out. We are surfers... Get a hobby man & stop babbling to listen to your own voice!! Chop!!
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Yep, it actually really helps people, and it makes me feel good to help people. Now that I think about it, after doing this for 20 years, maybe this is my hobby?
Locky 2 gaming
Locky 2 gaming - 7 years ago
I've never been surfing before but I will start learning to surf soon. do I go for small or big ones at this point? at what stage can I surf the barrel waves?
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Hi Locky, smaller waves break in shallower water. So you're best to get
a board that is easy for you to paddle, and start surfing in waves
that are as big as your chest when you are standing up. If you're
really a beginner, it is easiest to start in warm water in waves that
are breaking on a sandy beach. The best surfer out there is the one
having the most fun, so have lots of fun!
Stephen Apps
Stephen Apps - 7 years ago
I stopped after a minute. How many surfers turned pro respectfully waited 30 minutes until 'his turn'. Surfer deepest to the peak has priority. Try bringing your shit rule to australia haha, you will get laughed at
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Hi Stephen, thanks for watching and for your comment. Australian surfers who come to Mentawai are like any other nationality: They need to be reminded sometimes that Mentawai is not Gold Coast. All the "pros" I've surfed with in the Mentawai Islands have always been very generous and respectful. They know that they are representing their sponsors and the resort or charter boat that brought them there. There are so many cameras these days, and social media is a very meditating form of peer
pressure to do the right thing and be a nice person in the lineup. Obviously some people don't care, but I have yet to surf in the islands with any pros who come with that attitude. Most pros like giving waves away to people with less skill, at least out here.

This video is intended for people who are coming to surf here in Mentawai, and maybe people who want to be prepared so they don't waste time on their holiday trying to figure it out by making mistakes. Most people only come for 10 days, and are stoked that somebody told them whats up before they get out there. You'd be amazed how many people like to be prepared. Cheers!
jeremy edwards
jeremy edwards - 7 years ago
the only thing i don't agree with you on is the waiting my turn.. if i'm deeper than everyone else and can make the wave... guess what... I'm going.. that'sthe end of the story.. the person sitting deeper has the right way..
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Hi Jeremy, thanks for watching our video and for your comment. The problem with taking waves again and again just because you're deeper is that inevitably the question will come out, "what makes you so special?" Are you special just because you sit 10ft. to the left or right of somebody else? Does that qualify you as a better surfer because you "made the section"? We're all out here trying to catch a fleeting glimpse of the joy that a wave brings, and the reality is none of us is more special than anybody else, regardless of skill. That's my two cents anyway.
Shaun Kelly
Shaun Kelly - 7 years ago
Wait.. you fags do know that you cant own waves you cant own land fuck off. You're not from the mentawais either. Sounds like a tool. Typical tourist goes somevere a few times then thinks hes a local. Fuck your resort asshole.
B R
B R - 7 years ago
Really enjoyed the video. But it paled in comparison to the comments. Keep it up!
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Cheers Benjamin. It is entertaining, isn't it?
Ryan Harlow
Ryan Harlow - 7 years ago
This video is stupid. You want to try to catch as many waves as you can. There is no order/ line. Once again this video is retarded.
Ulle Lindberg
Ulle Lindberg - 7 years ago
Have you ever been to the Mentawaii? Guess not!
drunkrudetat2d
drunkrudetat2d - 7 years ago
haole
Samus Rodney
Samus Rodney - 7 years ago
respect is important in this sport. unfortunately some wanna fight. so whenever a dude starts being hostile i clinch and f him up on land. sorry i dont like to say this. but some are very aggresive and there is only one way to treat a person that is fysically attacking u. is to defend and fight back. sorry man
J. Collins
J. Collins - 7 years ago
that's awesome you did this I lived on Kauai for a while and I was horrified by how many tourists get injured and killed because there is just no one to tell them how dangerous the ocean is or even walking on rocks at the edge of the ocean. Little things like this are important, no matter your skill level, if you're encountering something new.
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Hey thanks J. We're making a few videos about "surfing over reefs" for that exact reason. A lot of good surfers just assume some things, but actually there are a lot of decent surfers out there who know just enough to get themselves into trouble when they surf in big waves over shallow reefs. Stoked on the support, Cheers!
Wayne Fay
Wayne Fay - 7 years ago
I never heard so much goddam good advice
don't snowball my fuckin' wave, cocksucker!!
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Thanks Wayne!
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
If you are going to use a word, learn to spell it guys:/ SANCTIMONIOUS!!:/
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Haha, good one.
Josh Van Roon
Josh Van Roon - 7 years ago
what the fuck cunt....... u can't say ejecting is not cool... get fucked its the funnest thing ever
Ron Nakamoto
Ron Nakamoto - 7 years ago
I want to compliment you for publishing a fair, sensible ethos. I quit surfing over 35 years ago because of the "locals rule" mentality that seemed to dominate every spot on the west coast. Now in my late 60's, my only regret is that I did quit rather than stand for fairness, respect, courtesy, and safety for all.
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Thanks Ron. So sorry to hear that you quit surfing. Hopefully you can start again, but if not live vicariously through the videos we post on our channel. We try to get the stoke of surfing across in everything we do. Cheers!
Meibeon
Meibeon - 7 years ago
Don't surf around dickheads....saved you watching this.
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Yep. That could be the title of the thing.
ARJ 2
ARJ 2 - 7 years ago
the comments about this video are why it needed to be made.... kooks and crowds raise the risk for everyone.
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Preach on.
wylee coyote
wylee coyote - 7 years ago
Kind of a surf nazi video
Chriz Rockz
Chriz Rockz - 7 years ago
...and...fuck you surcampguys... YOU bring masses of people in the water that don t have a clue about what sufing is all about!! fuck off commercialization!!
Chriz Rockz
Chriz Rockz - 7 years ago
As i m fully tattooed, 195 pounds heavy with a breast mesurement of 131cm and riding a longboard
... I always have the right to go FIRST ;-)
Shari Smith Dunaif
Shari Smith Dunaif - 7 years ago
Christian Bieler Christian Bieler you think you can bully people? Guys like you are pathetic, nothing cool about being a fat guy, & tats are for guys who desperately need to appear 'tough' but you're sheep. Tats are dated - my fucking great aunt has a tat - got it when she turned 80 - that's cool! Maybe 1 day you'll grow up & learn to play with others. Otherwise you're just an asshole.
Carlos_ sk8s
Carlos_ sk8s - 7 years ago
Sand your nose and fins?!??? Are you serious lol
Winston White
Winston White - 7 years ago
Jeez I just wanna get in tube... yeeeooow..... so many rules bro
Winston White
Winston White - 7 years ago
Surf etiquette is generally ok here in WA with crowded line ups
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Hi Winston. These are all just suggestions to keep you safe and have a good time. Feel free to follow no rules wherever you surf, it's a free world.
But that's that thing about surfing with other people. Chances are that others with you in the lineup will also decide that there are no rules, and then your happiness and safety will rapidly diminish.
NaaffaX
NaaffaX - 7 years ago
come to my country Maldives for surfing! its got really nice places to surf. Hope you can come and enjoy!.... let me know when you come!... be really happy to show you around!.
OC Blues
OC Blues - 7 years ago
Talks about respect... Brazilians walk up
Sharon Saunders
Sharon Saunders - 7 years ago
Thanks for posting these helpful tips. Most seems like common courtesy and logic.....
Enrique Nuesch
Enrique Nuesch - 7 years ago
I don't know why there are so many negative comments here. If you guy didn't like it, then go to hawaii and be bullied out of every wave you try to catch by some stupid Kalaholis Kalaweas gangsta wannabes.
Truth & God
Truth & God - 7 years ago
Yeah... this guy can go fuck himself.
Sharon Saunders
Sharon Saunders - 7 years ago
Sayeth the guy who's gonna get a throat punch when he messes one of the above up LOL
Andrew Inglis
Andrew Inglis - 7 years ago
says truth and god
Nainoa Evangelista
Nainoa Evangelista - 7 years ago
do not take info from kooks
aaron bishop
aaron bishop - 7 years ago
People who are learning and don't know etiquette , just plain and simply shouldn't be , surfing waves of consequence. Nor should there ever be a Private camp for the rich at an incredible wave. Many wealthy folk on roids have the worst attitude and common sense in the water. Surfing and the ocean are indeed for everyone, however, you must earn your right to surf great surf spots. If you havn't and your still feeling like you want some, you should show nothing but respect and positive vibes to those who have obviously spent more time in it the culture ( not a sport) than you.
Ignorance creates dangerous situations and egos create fights and bad vibes. Sorry people but just because you figured out how to make enough money to be at a great surf spot doesn't give you any rights in the water beyond what was just explained. Don't give a shit about us then we don't let you surf in peace and you will likely drown. Go home and make somemoreof your money and swim through that!!
Be humble and gracious then you might actually be givin a wave, learn something new and make a new friend or two.
Alejandro Arndt Jack
Alejandro Arndt Jack - 7 years ago
ejections are fun af xdd, I absolutely love it, the higher the better
drew porter
drew porter - 7 years ago
sounds crowded... Expensive waves with too many rules... I won't make it. Portsy
diver dave
diver dave - 7 years ago
! you forgot to add WEAR A BOARD LEASH .... nothing worse then some tool surfing he board hits you when he wipes out !
diver dave
diver dave - 7 years ago
i moved to Hawaii way back in 1979 so I could scuba dive and hopefully learn how to surf ! I got LUCKY when I met a surfer that helped me pick out the perfect surfboard for learning how to paddle and get up to surf , it was an 8' x 22" Ben Aipa.. he told me it would be a lot easier to learn on a larger board. his next tip was to get out early to beat the crowds and always stay far left or right of the crowd and just practice paddling out and trying to catch the second or third wave of a set.
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Good idea diver dave. One thing about common sense; it's not common!
Super Logistics
Super Logistics - 7 years ago
Another hippy expat douche bag.. I am going there just to drop in over and over and over..
Samuel Barwick
Samuel Barwick - 7 years ago
good vid.
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Thanks Sam.
Vasco corte-real
Vasco corte-real - 7 years ago
fckin kook and pussy using boots to surf, you wont get any waves cause no1 respects pussies
harry blake
harry blake - 6 years ago
Let's see em Vasco? I love surf trips with guys that think booties are uncool, I dont have to compete with them for waves towards the end of the trip as their feet are all cut up and they can't surf.
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Talk is cheap buddy. Post those clips.
Vasco corte-real
Vasco corte-real - 7 years ago
i do have some clips, im 17 and i already surf better than you.. only thing you better than me is at getting barreled but hey i dont live at mentawais lol
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Yeah, here's my clips from this season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDl19TKdaCY
Where are yours? Thought so.

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Northern Beaches Same day surf
Northern Beaches Same day surf - 7 years ago
It's a lot to remember for someone just starting,
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
True, but this is only 1/2 of it. The other 1/2 we share once the guests get here.
ningpo69
ningpo69 - 7 years ago
good video.... "tear waves to schreds" is absolutely NOT what surfing and love of ocean is about !! Unfortunate choice of words and wasted chat space ! When some wave etiquette with increasing number of surfers is certainly needed ! S O S
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Thanks ningpo. It takes all kinds to make the world go around, as you can tell by reading all the different types of comments here.
Rod Templar
Rod Templar - 7 years ago
I started surfing in the early 1960's so please don't preach about who has which wave.
Which breaks were you surfing in the 1960's??! It all comes down to having free F U N !
Steve Reekie
Steve Reekie - 7 years ago
In terms of transactional analysis, the subject and comments here make a fascinating psychological study.
We might say that wavepark is relating in the parent ego state, whereas nomoreluke is responding from the child ego state, and along the way, others are interjecting from all three ego states, parent, adult and child. I'm no psychologist, but I couldn't help making this insightful observation. Thank you Eric Berne ... carry on as you were chaps :)
Drew Cunningham
Drew Cunningham - 7 years ago
pretty much common sense though there are still people out there that you have to fill in on basic manners
Troll Guy
Troll Guy - 7 years ago
used to be like this at rincon in the 70's and 80's.....not anymore
Carter Barsoom
Carter Barsoom - 7 years ago
I'm not even a surfer but at Paia I could see the fun and close calls.
Do you guys ever get hurt?
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Hey @Carter Barsoom I'm always surprised that people don't get hurt more often. Surfing is relatively safe.
Scott Walker
Scott Walker - 7 years ago
Narrated by a pompous jackass
DJ Shaun Reed
DJ Shaun Reed - 7 years ago
Hi Wavepark, Don't even worry about these loses!! What a bunch of Bitches!! Good vid, I agree with you on everything,except for the surfer padding out. I think the guy on the wave can go around, as it's easy for him to carve around the guy paddling out.
MrRobotazation
MrRobotazation - 7 years ago
Great video! Can you also make a version with hebrew subtitles? I surfed with many Israeli surfers and there were a great, passionate guys, but they could use some insights about surf etiquette. Surfing is a young sport in Israel and your video could really help. Cheers!
harry blake
harry blake - 6 years ago
Israeli passport holders are not permitted to enter Indonesia, thank fuck.
Dale Westcott
Dale Westcott - 7 years ago
Good review.
Ben Robinson
Ben Robinson - 7 years ago
Already saving to stay with you guys...can't wait
Ricardo Grade
Ricardo Grade - 7 years ago
Are you a math teacher?
vldmaiden
vldmaiden - 7 years ago
what is the song in the intro of this video? please and thanks
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Hi @vldmaiden, all the credits are at the end of the film. The song you're asking about is are the Surf Coasters, "How are you doing?".
captmack007
captmack007 - 7 years ago
great info, even for long time surfers
captmack007
captmack007 - 7 years ago
or basically, don't be a kook.
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Yes! That's how the concept started. Asking people to not be kooks, but some people need the extra benefit of shared experience. It's what makes us human after all.
james McCarthy
james McCarthy - 7 years ago
if you dont know the rules.. you shouldnt be surfing in the mentawais.. and fuck the bird man off the back is the greatest move ever.. Slip slop slap..
Jimmy Naraine
Jimmy Naraine - 7 years ago
Great video, thanks
Wes Hart
Wes Hart - 7 years ago
Hey man me and my Fiance would love to come to your resort but we struggle to pay even the basic bills every month. Maybe do a sweepstakes or contest to win a weekend trip?!
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
You're welcome!
uakoo
uakoo - 7 years ago
why all the bs rules, get over it and go surf
mark williams
mark williams - 7 years ago
3:28 don't even look at it haha
Dr James Whittlesey
Dr James Whittlesey - 7 years ago
Why would someone want travel that far and spent lots of money just to deal with more crowds?
Richard kelly
Richard kelly - 7 years ago
To surf different and better waves than at home
RDWRER4
RDWRER4 - 7 years ago
"Cmon cowboy we go fix yo back".
Random Everything
Random Everything - 7 years ago
these comments kill me! i think the bottom line is that. If you blow up a spot with people, who rarely visit and/or are unfamiliar with conditions, dangerous reactions will occur. trying to prevent the mistakes from repeating, may seem proactive but is still reactive. Mainly because (even tho most aren't kooks in their familiar places/home breaks) you bring in kooks by the boat load. I dont mean kooks in traditional sense but i mean crowds of outsiders, unfamiliar to the local conditions, situations and safety hazards. I understand the need for a video and some of the peoples needs to bash it since its a catch 22 a double edge sword kind of topic. "if you are sick tobias just take out the hair extensions"
Spencer D.
Spencer D. - 8 years ago
The day I have to bear hug my board is going to be crazy. Great Video.
22 A Day No Way
22 A Day No Way - 8 years ago
Watch. 22adaynoway
knight of ni
knight of ni - 8 years ago
Wow dude... I think yor charisma alone will prevent us from riding waves over there.... u sound suicidal
leonie burnham
leonie burnham - 8 years ago
God... how to make surfing boring... swear to huey the surf god you're commentsry sucked 2ft of the top... shut up chillax and surf... if you're a novice don't surf a reef
mikerafone music
mikerafone music - 8 years ago
sounds like a bunch of surf gangsters didnt like the video...lol
Gabriel Lugo
Gabriel Lugo - 8 years ago
do you think that going to the mentawais as a 14 year old is practical. I am a pretty good surfer from jersey, but i want to surf really good waves. Do you think these waves are too dangerous? Today i surfed 4-6 foot at manasqan
Kelly Smith
Kelly Smith - 8 years ago
dick ...get over yourself .. you're not that important. kooks like you we' d purposely drop in on.
robrichdale
robrichdale - 8 years ago
sounds good in theory, but i just came back from down there. Many guests from your resort were burning people left and right on waves and back paddling everyone!! (especially bank vaults and rifles) Maybe they didn't watch the video or missed out on your tutorial when they were there!! As far as enforcing the "wait your turn rule" that's complete BS from what I saw. Just saying. I still had a awesome trip and got my fair share of waves but I didn't see anyone taking part in this "wait your turn" rule. It was every man for himself down there, just like anywhere else.
Aven Kubis
Aven Kubis - 8 years ago
So many fucking rules. Not what surfing is about
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
Bloody sad Christie, so many empty heads in the lineup:/ Personlly i thought every point in the vid was commonsense that all surfers should know:/ A serious injury when exploring, or surfing anywhere remote is something noone wants, i know, broken neck among other things:/ I would say "THINK" a little guys, but that requires brains and thats something lacking in so many surfers. Most younguns especially dont even think about the possibility of serious harm, , They all think they are immortal, guess again guys:) , that will change as they get older and have been hurt a few times..hopefully:/ As to the "taking turns". In normal non camp situations the inside guy has right of way, BUT, if you are going to patronise a camp, you abide by their rules. Noone is forcing you to go! Camps exist to serve a need, most surfers do not have the time, money or will to explore and find uncrowded perfection, ive done that for more than 35 years and i can tell you guys this, there are still a shitload of perfect waves out there rarely or never surfed, i dont have the time left to check on the many i know will be great that i havent got to yet! Google earth guys:) Ok, i will leave you guys to the camps:) I got better places to go :)
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Hey uakoo, we're not calling people out for making mistakes. Just trying to point out what to avoid to keep everybody safe, 180km by boat from the nearest 3rd world hospital.
uakoo
uakoo - 7 years ago
sounds like rules though. if i pay a few thousand to go surf somewhere you better believe i wont be getting told to get in if i make a mistake
Carlos Alarcon
Carlos Alarcon - 8 years ago
aight then dive head first onto reef and drop in on some locals out there. youll have plenty of fun! Shmuck.
Francois Roos
Francois Roos - 8 years ago
Its not rules its etiquette... should everybody just do whatever they want?
surfdogdude
surfdogdude - 8 years ago
This narrator is a KOOK! The wave the says "wave" makes me want to vomit. KOOK! Shut up with your stupid rules. Who made you God?
thatoneopenwheelfanboy's 2nd account
thatoneopenwheelfanboy's 2nd account - 7 years ago
-_- wait......you're calling him a kook, boy, if you went to the beaches I went to, the shit would get beaten out of you...
Мария Игоревна
Мария Игоревна - 8 years ago
AHAHAH IT'S MOST ugly video what i see on youtube)))
Tolba Szy
Tolba Szy - 8 years ago
Nice and precise!
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Thanks Tolba. We've got some more precision coming out soon. Cheers for your support.
B Nice
B Nice - 8 years ago
dear nomoreluke the kook your the fucking cancer ya dingbat it's people like you that give me the fucking irits. Everytime it's some dumbass cock smoker like yourself who paddles straight passed me only to sit a metre to the inside you fucking shit me you and your kind think every fucking wave is yours you insolent piece of fucking shit!!!!!!!!!
Ian Parker
Ian Parker - 8 years ago
Hey everybody go check out my vids! I'd really appreciate some advice or constructive criticism! :)
drunk moomin
drunk moomin - 8 years ago
fuck your advices !
John Scott
John Scott - 8 years ago
Good video, wise words. Preparation + caution + respect= no problems.
Hammock Joe
Hammock Joe - 8 years ago
the one that waits the longest gets the next wave ? the fuck ? :D
Kelly Smith
Kelly Smith - 8 years ago
Hammock Joe yer funny. yeah I paddle out to wait. ""the fuck"". ha ha
Kelly Smith
Kelly Smith - 8 years ago
Hammock Joe yer funny. yeah I paddle out to wait. ""the fuck"". ha ha
ChrisDavenport Shoots
ChrisDavenport Shoots - 8 years ago
Keylin Davenport I like your last name. Probably cause I have the same one. But did you know davenport is slang for couch? Facts
Keylin Davenport
Keylin Davenport - 8 years ago
Haha yep
ChrisDavenport Shoots
ChrisDavenport Shoots - 8 years ago
Ikr, come to California and try that, you'll get nothing
SURF-4-LIFE
SURF-4-LIFE - 8 years ago
Cool video,here in algarve rules r simple,respect the locals,be safe and make sure everybody around is safe when u surf,leave our beach clean like it was and chill.
Jack Brennick
Jack Brennick - 8 years ago
ok ...everybody breathe,...this guy is doing what every does since bruce brown filmed cape st francis....he's rubbing it in our face....
'....you should have been here yesterday.....you really missed it.... no one was out,., the barrels were epic...and the offfshores.....and especially the "Ho Bra...was so shallow...."...except that was 15 yrs ago...and now he's irking that he bragged about it.....and now its in the mags and he's gone corporate since he runs the joint....he's really trying to act like the mac daddy local....except.....laird and his crew just might show up and it's business as usual.........and thats why the place I still have to myself.... is still........ahhhh....I'll end my rant......
Ilina Shah
Ilina Shah - 8 years ago
Kinda random but do you have a link to the song in the beginning (How Are You Doing by The Surf Coasters)? Can't find it anywhere...
John Melville
John Melville - 8 years ago
Superb video
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
@John Melville. Thank you!
Nolan Parker
Nolan Parker - 8 years ago
Bruh no one cares about these rules seriously tho
Nolan Parker
Nolan Parker - 8 years ago
?
ROKlJH UI
ROKlJH UI - 8 years ago
Me and my friends all care about these rules.
Nolan Parker
Nolan Parker - 8 years ago
Nobody cares
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
@Bryce Jackson. You'd be surprised how many people care about being snowballed while pulling into a barreling section at 6ft. low tide Rifles.
Bill Fordes
Bill Fordes - 8 years ago
Very nice commentary.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
@Bill Fordes. Thanks. Great to have the support.
ana guadarrama
ana guadarrama - 8 years ago
great video for begginers, good tips like this are so needed. In latin america anybody can call themselves a surf instructor and they do a terrible job, putting people at risk.
Spencer Kochel
Spencer Kochel - 8 years ago
All you need to know about surfing is contained in the movie Point Break.
Duane Dibbley
Duane Dibbley - 6 years ago
Spencer Kochel I am an FBI agent!
Jacqueline Miller
Jacqueline Miller - 6 years ago
false
Ryde Ovashit
Ryde Ovashit - 7 years ago
Hahaahhaaaahhaaahhaahaaaahahaha
BRad From THe Valley
BRad From THe Valley - 7 years ago
North Shore actually does teach surfing etiquette and technique.
Kinlan Boys
Kinlan Boys - 7 years ago
Spencer Kochel lol
wrybread
wrybread - 7 years ago
And, of course, North Shore.
Meibeon
Meibeon - 7 years ago
Yeh, if you rob a bank and somebody from school turns up at your break stop robbing banks until they go away again.
Spencer Kochel
Spencer Kochel - 7 years ago
Sure! you pay for shipping :)
commenter78
commenter78 - 8 years ago
+wavepark you can stream it online in amazon for 3.99 rental or 12.99 to buy.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
@Spencer Kochel. Can you please send us a copy? I used to have one on DVD but eventually it got overplayed and scratched. That is a classic movie.
Erwan Compes
Erwan Compes - 8 years ago
A few solid tips but I find that a lot in this video is addressing newbie mistakes who have no business surfing a reefbreak, let alone in the Mentawai. Maybe you shouldn't bring cooks on your surf trips and expect a certain level of experience. Then you won't have to deal with some of the nonsense described here.
Strickland Sound
Strickland Sound - 7 years ago
Erwan, there is no better system, than having turns. Being a cook is in the eye of the beholder. The mentawis is great because of these rules... take a visit to california and you'll see the opposite, cannot get a wave, it's horrible. I'd rather share, be nice and help everyone improve with their surfing than to call anyone a cook. Your young, but one day when your body is breaking down and getting old, maybe you could look back and say, I was a nice fella and shared the ocean like a gentleman.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
@Erwan Compes. Yes, it would be great if everybody ripped who came to Mentawai, but we assume that guests at least know how to stand up and travel along an open face. Fortunately we have waves suitable for beginner - intermediate. The other thing that always surprises me is how fast people improve after 10 days of surfing 6 hours a day. We'll start them slow and by the end they're taking on the big stuff.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
Fuck me. What a sanctamonious asshole. I came to tear waves to shreds, not have a fucking love-in. The irony of a "Surf camp" posting a video about surfers saving themselves from themselves is outrageous. You surf camp people are pure cancer. Privatising waves all over the world and charging surfers for the privilege of surfing certain spots... Fuck you and everyone who looks like you. You should all have your camps burnt to the fucking ground. Making inaccessible spots easily accessible is absolutely fuelling crowding in locations that used to be empty. So fuck you and your hippy shit. Wanker. If you want a wave, take off deeper than me - I won't drop in. If you haven't got the balls though, get the fuck out of the water.
Shari Smith Dunaif
Shari Smith Dunaif - 7 years ago
That's some tantrum. Maybe 1 day you'll grow up and get over being the petulant, angry, hostile adolescent you make yourself out to be. Surfing is suppose to be fun.
Shari Smith Dunaif
Shari Smith Dunaif - 7 years ago
That's some tantrum. Maybe 1 day you'll grow up and get over being the petulant, angry, hostile adolescent you make yourself out to be. Surfing is suppose to be fun.
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
hahahahahaha
Scott
Scott - 7 years ago
+nomoreluke is, "not aggressive towards other surfers in the water EVER", but on the internet where he feels safe....uhhhmmm....
Scott
Scott - 7 years ago
jackoff calls himself tyler durden and then goes on to pretend he is mr. business ethics. Sanctimonious asshole. +nomoreluke = entitled pottymouth bumbaclot.
andy. ec
andy. ec - 7 years ago
lulz, way to respond with your thoughts in a coherent and inteligent manner, conveying a series of calm, collected and lucid thoughts.
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
what a load of crap!! Who the fuck do you think you are ?? Helping people surf?? WTF?? You think they are out there pushing people into waves you idiot?? You cant help someone "surf"!! People are surfing by themselves..DUHHHHH. Bringing people there?? ANYONE can get to the bloody Mentawai islands moron. All they do is make it a LITTLE bit easier for the ones who want fast boat transport:/ You are so full of shit you elitist cocksucker,lol What a load of wank. There are no people out there surfing who cannot ride the waves. If they were stupid enough to try without the ability they would get hurt, hardly good for business:/ Of course we all get cut, we all hit the reef. Fear keeps the incompeent out of the water as you would know if you were any sort of surfer,lol. When its big, the shore is where people who are not up to it stay, self preservation takes care of that you retard:/ You think your some sort of surf guru, a pro perhaps[excuse me while i throw up]. If you dont like it, dont go, if you were any sort of a surfer you would know there are many great places to surf that dont have crowds or surfcamps, go there. hopefully alone, i certainly dont want to be in the water with a fuckhead like you:/
andy. ec
andy. ec - 7 years ago
@wavepark, your attitude, along with all the services that you say you provide seem reasonable at first glance, however, imo, the idea of catering to people who are inexperienced surfers is where the fault lies and makes your whole approach complete nonsense and shennanigans. if you can't surf these types of waves on your own, without help, then you should not be surfing anywhere near these waves. sorry, go back to beachies until you are confident. hand-holding people who otherwise shouldn't be surfing certain types of waves is irresponsible and creates a problem for all the people who put in the time and energy, over years, to be able to surf waves like this. the fact that you provide this service for rich ppl willing to pay for it is absurd and i agree it is a huge part of what ruins surfing as a whole, though i don't need to resort to name calling to convey that notion....so yeah, before you pretentiously espouse how you are are doing anything other than making money, with your focus primarily on just that, at the expense of surfing and all of the surfers who put the time in, think about how it is you who may be endangering ppl more than anyone else in the water by bringing inexperienced ppl to places they should not be just because they are rich and expect ppl like you to cater to their absurd sense of entitlement....
john garin
john garin - 7 years ago
We don't want to be robots but reminders of empathy & respect can't hurt, it's a welcome reminder for idiot bullies that there can be consequences, & Yes, as soon as filthy lucre gets involved, well, praise Paradise, some fukah puts up a Parking Lot.!
wrybread
wrybread - 7 years ago
+nomoreluke: you have decent points (which I disagree with in this specific case), but harping on the guide for being "unprofessional" for insulting you ever so slightly after you heaped insults on him is just retarded. First off, he was downright restrained. But honestly, if you can't handle the slightest bit of a return insult, you're just being the kind of bully who yells at people when they're working and then tries to get them fired for defending themselves.
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
No they dont:/ These days the world is full of overpriveleged, undertalented weekend surfers that these camps cater too perfectly:/ Along with the pros, who usually get good deals in exchange for promotional vids:/ Still, these waves are available for anyone to surf, without paying the hefty rates of luxury camps! There are plenty of cheap places to stay in the Ments. Right on HTs at 10 bucks a night,lol. Boats can also be hired cheap from locals. I got nothing against camps really, once it gets serious most guys are on the beach watching:)
SkilledMaverick
SkilledMaverick - 7 years ago
If they don't need customers, then you're right, who cares. I'm guessing they would prefer to have the $2500 per customer though. Plus, if they are a great resort, a lot of people would return at some point in the future. Now they lost $5000 for 2 visits and so on. But that's no big deal, right? Good for them if they don't need that money or referrals. I wouldn't try to help them on this because you actually just made me think even less of them, which I'm surprised was even possible. Now I just want to tell everyone I know to avoid this company. But then again, they don't care, do they?
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
One less potential customer,lol...At 5 or 6 hundred bucks a night most commenting here will never have a hope of staying here. Ime sure Christie is really worried :/ With Rifles and K lefts out front hes never going to be short of customers:) Some of us can afford it, personally i prefer basic accomodation, cheap, and stay a lot longer, and i still get to surf those waves,lol
SkilledMaverick
SkilledMaverick - 7 years ago
Wow! I'm absolutely shocked that a business would say these things. They do have every right to defend their business, but I don't think the original comment was intended to bring down the company. Yes, it was harsh. Yes, it bashed "surf camps." But I didn't see it as an attempt to bad mouth the specific company. It's never called out by name. When they responded to the comment, they essentially bashed themselves by legitimizing the comment and giving details about their business. And, unfortunately, it does prove what the original comment was complaining about, that this person is wrong (not the same word used, just trying to be nicer). I just don't see any valid reason why that response was considered acceptable. It tarnishes their name for potential future clients. I wasn't a client before today, but I definitely won't be in the future because of this.
Sándor Palcsó
Sándor Palcsó - 7 years ago
And that "fat mouth" was enough for me, not to choose your camp as a paying customer. Ever. Oh, and i call you unprofessional as well. Because you were. nomoreluke had some good points and a bad attitude, but mate, you are representing a professional business. The fact that it is your business just makes it worse. No offense though, but next time watch that fat mouth of yours! :)
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
Amen..Christie rips:) So he should living there,lol
ACAwesomeness
ACAwesomeness - 7 years ago
nomoreluke the question is, can you surf like this man does?
J. Collins
J. Collins - 7 years ago
You're a kook because no one that really shreds- your term- tells other people they shred. Respect what this guy is saying it's advice born of experience and delivered in goodwill. Nothing love-in about it. Fucking dumbass.
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
On that point Luke, it is "his" business, so he is entitled to say whatever the fuck he wants, just like you man:) Also, Ime not a fan of surf resorts at all!! I have never patronised one in 37 years of surfing[i am going to Hts in June for the first time though:/] BUT, without this particular surf camp, noone would be surfing this place:/ He does not own the waves, and does not say he does. If you can get there, go for it, the waves are free,lol. After decades of travelling rough finding waves all over the place ime now 57 and am happy to take it a bit slower and even have a little luxury:/ Not all the time, but some of it at least. Surf resorts for the most part are utilizing waves that without the camps would not be surfed much:/ There are so many waves out there, i find it hilarious that the bickering and petty bullshit is so full on,lol. The world is chock full of amazing waves, still plenty out there rarely surfed, or never..LOOK:) BTW, these camps are heaven for a good surfer, once it hits 8 feet, the lineup is suddenly very lonely,lol. Things have changed in 35 odd years, back in the day, you were judged on your ability. Sitting on the beach when it got big was not a good look:/ Now most guys surfing these places wont even go out when its serious:/ This was a big shock to me when a bud told me how good it was at Hts at size, but ime not complaining:) Ime there after Nias in June for a little camp luxury for a change. Calm down man, WGAF about the bullshit, lets just surf and let others sweat the small shit:/
Mitch Smith
Mitch Smith - 7 years ago
normoreluke knows what hes talking about if your haven't been there, you don't know!!!!!!!!! Greenbush 4 life ...
surfing has become a mainstream sport over the last 10 to 15 years!!!!!!!! someone throws a surfboard under there arm and calls themselves a surfer nowdays ...
when i was young surfers had no money, half a job, lived to surf and spent most to all of there time by the sea.... Society dislike them very much and most were look at like scum
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 7 years ago
Don't get me wrong - if I'm out there with a group of mates and/or 4/5 others, I'm not going to snake anyone. What I'm NOT going to do is wait in turn for 30 surf camp wankers (who are only there because they're paying through the nose for it) to paddle and miss before I take a wave.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 7 years ago
Yes they can mate - I'm not disputing that. They can say whatever they want. It's unprofessional to simply "Say what you want" though. Every business... Well, every LEGITIMATE business, values an air of professionalism in the face of criticism. Fact is, it's pretty clear that I'm not the only person who found this video a load of bullshit. Title your video "Saving surfers from themselves" while operating a surf camp and a few people are going to call you out for what you are.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 7 years ago
Yes mate, properly owned... I assume that you are unaware of the irony of writing "Full Stop" in a grammatically poor comment.
danny macnus
danny macnus - 7 years ago
nomoreluke fuck yes youv actually hit the nail on the head. No one should make money from surfing really except maybe shapers and shit
wavepark
wavepark - 7 years ago
Thanks so much for the support Chris. We'd love to have you back. We're doing early and late season now, in fact open for Christmas as I type this. Off season is the new on season if you know what I mean. Cheers!
Christopher Cairnes
Christopher Cairnes - 7 years ago
christie and his wife run a great operation. Their camp only allows 12 guests at a time so their camp is not why the spot in front is overcrowded. The entire Mentawai island chain is over crowded. There are a hundred boats loaded with surfers of all levels of experience from all over the world. Its kind of a shit show during peak season to be honest. He is just trying to make it so people, not just his guests, can have the best, safest experience possible with so much demand of a limited resource in a limited amount of space.
p.s. As lame as it sounds, taking turns works in the Mentawais as long as everyone is playing nice in the sandbox. Even the boats full of pros follow this practice for the most part . I have a feeling nomoreluke is the one donkey fucking it up for everyone else.
MykMallett
MykMallett - 7 years ago
+nomoreluke Why should they treat you with professionalism? They can also say whatever they want, it's their business. You've shown yourself to be precisely the kind of person they don't want anything to do with. It wasn't even that unprofessional, not after the shit you said. Just fuck right off you angry prick. What makes you think you have the right to spout off a load of insults like that without any recourse?
Jason Karl
Jason Karl - 7 years ago
sorry I'm a little late to the party! But I'm pretty sure Nomoreluke just got owned here. Full Stop
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
+MykMallett
I'm pretty sure I wasn't crying about it - I was making the point that, as someone running a business and commenting on their behalf, it wasn't professional. I'm not commenting on behalf of a business fella, I can say whatever I want - they can always disable the ability to make comments if they don't like it. As for calling me a "pussy", well... That doesn't really mean anything, does it? Unless you're saying it to my face, which I VERY much doubt that you'd have the balls to do, you're just another internet toughguy. Nothing scarier than an internet hardman!! Keep it up x
MykMallett
MykMallett - 8 years ago
So you insult them repeatedly and then cry when they say 'fat mouth'. You're a fucking pussy!
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
+Luke Dickson
I'm not aggressive towards other surfers in the water EVER. I have never and will never put anyone at any kind of risk and I will never drop in on anyone. I've surfed in Australia for years, mainly Margs, Northern Perth beaches and Northern Sydney beaches and never had a problem with people being aggressive in the water. Quite the opposite in fact. I'm not suggesting that everyone should be an idiot in the water, I'm just suggesting that this "waiting in a queue" system is absolute bullshit. Just take off deeper than me and I won't drop in. Fact is, in the Mentawais, the only reason a lineup would be particularly crowded would be because there was one of these bullshit surf camps there in the first place. Without the camp, no crowd and, therefore, no need to queue for a wave. Either that or a boatload of people turn up, at which point, I usually get out of the lineup.
Luke Dickson
Luke Dickson - 8 years ago
Maybe if you grew up in Australia you'd have a different view RE: the Soul Surfer thing, man. I get that people don't like to be preached to, but people also don't like having aggression thrown at them out in the water by people that haven't matured past adolescence.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
+Luke Dickson
Surfing isn't, and never has been, all about "Soul", even in the 70s as you suggest. Just ask Miki Dora. Localism and "surf rage" was massively prevalent, especially on the west coast of the US - probably even more so than it is today. Fact is, people get what they want out of surfing - some people want the whole hippy thing and that's cool. Others want to surf more aggressively and that's fine too. Others just don't appreciate being preached to, especially by people whose only contribution to the surfing world is the exploitation of remote and once pretty inaccessible spots for their own financial gain.
Luke Dickson
Luke Dickson - 8 years ago
Inane? Fair enough, but with surf rage going through the roof at city beaches around the world bringing about the loss of the Soul Surfing vibe of the 70's, I feel it appropriate to highlight unnecessary anger wherever I see it. This dude isn't trying to be sanctimonious, he's trying to give everyone the best, most enjoyable experience he can. Cut out the bullshit, man.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
+Luke Dickson
and world's most inane comment goes to...
Luke Dickson
Luke Dickson - 8 years ago
Wow. You're really angry...
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
+Phocas Buck
Haha. Thanks man.
Phocas Buck
Phocas Buck - 8 years ago
Tanner, I am sure your parents will be pleased they don't have to pay for you to go to this camp.
Phocas Buck
Phocas Buck - 8 years ago
I can see why these videos are made, lot of these rich dudes who think they can surf just show up and are clueless. I like the idea of hiring Luke to run the lineup though.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
+slapmyfunkybass
I'm not suggesting that he shouldn't reply - I'm simply suggesting that it might be a bit better for him to keep a professional tone, rather than an insulting one. He's representing a business (a shitty, exploiting one I'll admit) but it's a business all the same. Just highlighted the fundamental lack of professionalism with many of these surf camps.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
+UBF Underground Boxing Federation
fella, I think you need to keep quiet, since your glaring lack of knowledge is a bit embarrassing. I DO stay away from learning locations generally but the Mentawais are not a learning location. I've surfed the Mentawais and Oahu several times and I'd rather get injured at Pipe than on some reef pass in the middle of nowhere. Now shhhhhhhhhhhhhh
UBF Underground Boxing Federation
UBF Underground Boxing Federation - 8 years ago
you sound like a kook. so big and good are ya? go to pipe or jaws. stay away from learning locations. Newbs need waves too. leave them alone.
John Scott
John Scott - 8 years ago
And now one more potential one as well.
Jabroney
Jabroney - 8 years ago
+gordon quigg I completely agree.
Chris Buckland
Chris Buckland - 8 years ago
@wavepark
Sounds absolutely awesome, got any jobs available?
Tanner Huibregtse
Tanner Huibregtse - 8 years ago
Unfortunately, not only your great clientele are reading through these comments. Thats one less potential customer for wavepark!
slapmyfunkybass
slapmyfunkybass - 8 years ago
+Tyler Durden​ Bullshit. Why should a business put up with this kind of attitude? The guy obviously has no intention of ever using them. Easier to just say fuck you then. He can then find his non-profit wave, and the business can serve those who are interested. Let's cut out the bull people.
Jabroney
Jabroney - 8 years ago
I like this guy
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
+wavepark
He's definitely not the first to call you unprofessional fella - read back. My main issue with this whole video is the title... "Saving surfers from themselves". It's so arrogant and puritanical as to be utterly ridiculous, especially coming from a surf camp. Given many surfers' feelings about surf camps and how they are affecting surfing around the world, I think it's incredibly ironic (although obviously unintentionally so) to be spouting crap about "Saving surfers from themselves".
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
Hi Tyler. You're definitely the first...avatar... to accuse me of being
unprofessional. But I appreciate that you're also a human being, so you're also the first human being to accuse me of being unprofessional. OUCH!
At this particular point I'm the founder, CEO and Managing Director of WavePark Resort, so I'll have to fire myself if I need to. Thanks for taking the time to write in and give me your two cents on it all, I really do appreciate it.
We're lucky enough to have developed great clientele over the years, of surfers who appreciate what I do for them in and out of the water. I'll keep doing what it is that I do, and hope that it keeps working out as well as it has. My intuition tells me that there is nothing professional about continually turning the other cheek when a human being slags your business, publicly or privately.
I think the majority of my current and ex-clientele would cheer if they ever happen upon my fat mouth defense of my business and my industry, and those are the kind of people I want coming to my resort. If you don't like my attitude, you're welcome to vote with your $. Maybe I'll see you in the water someday anyhow. Introduce yourself, I'll do my best to call you into the wave of the day.
Jeremy Merriweather
Jeremy Merriweather - 8 years ago
Now let's put reality into context. Mr. Nomoreluke is simply some guy watching surfing videos that happened to stumble across a video submitted by your company on which he commented for his own amusement and the empty recognition of others. What he said is absolutely irrelevant considering that his name represents nothing more than an anonymous entity. You, on the other hand, represent the WavePark name, ideas, opinions, and reputation in everything you post from their media page(s). If you have an issue with what he, or anyone for that matter, has to say, by all means express your opinion through YOUR PERSONAL youtube account. Unless you are the owner of WavePark and have no shareholders, I'm sure not everyone on the board or the owner himself would approve of you slandering of some random viewer (who may be a 9 year old kid for all we know) in a public forum. I'm just saying when you're speaking on behalf of a business, there is definitely a right and wrong way to go about it. If you were my employee, I would absolutely see this as grounds for termination, not because your words were worse in perspective to what is essentially no one, but because your words were spoken on behalf of the company and were in bad taste. Just be professional. It's not difficult ya little cocksucker. (See I can do that because I'm representing absolutely no one). Have a good one mate, don't let your emotions get the best of you. Just ignore the hate and push on with what you believe is right...even if that means waiting in a line in the ocean.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
@Tyler Durden. Put nomoreluke's "abrasiveness" in context. What he
said:
- Bunch of scum
- the biggest assholes in the history of surfing
- fucking hate these parasites
- walking embodiment of everything that's wrong with surfing
- Utter scum
- their bullshit camps
- sanctamonious asshole
- pure cancer
- camps burnt to the fucking ground
- Wanker
------------------------------
What I said:
- fat mouth

The only reason I leave the commentary open is because it provides a
great example of exactly why I made this video. I've come up with a
saying for it: "INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE".

It's taken me 19 years of surfing over Mentawai reefs to learn the +/-
10 things that I suggest on this video. I call it an "evidence-based
approach". I have more helping to do, and I'm going to continue doing
it despite small-minded, ignorant trolls. It's a free world, say what
you want. But you backing up this guy and his comments is putting you
on the wrong side of history. This video will stay up as long as the
internet exists, so expect another 100 million views, including all our
back and forths. Here's something else: I'm not afraid of losing my
livelihood when I defend safety and politeness, fat mouth notwithstanding.
Jeremy Merriweather
Jeremy Merriweather - 8 years ago
This situation was handled well until you let your ego completely undermine your point with your "fat mouth" insult. That's simply unacceptable for someone speaking on behalf of a business. I'm glad this disgruntled chap went on to make increasingly valid arguments in the comments following your little remark. His approach was a bit abrasive, but he's not wrong. If your petty attitude both in the video and in this comment thread depict what the overall attitude is like at your resort, I don't see anyone worth their wake in surfing enjoying themselves at wavepark. Hopefully the resort finds better management and maybe a PR rep to run their social media.. With over a million views it's not like that behavior has gone completely unseen.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
And, while we're being "clear", which aspects of your suggested etiquette do I agree with? I think I disagreed with most of them, aside from not dropping in, which isn't really YOUR etiquette, is it? That's just a worldwide standard. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not a dick in the water - if someone takes off deeper than me, I'm never going to drop in on them and when someone DOES drop in on me, I don't threaten them, fling my board at them or do anything that would endanger them. The very most I'll do is paddle up and ask them to be more aware next time. What I'm not going to do though is wait patiently in a queue. As I said - you want the wave? Take off deeper than me. The only time that is EVER a problem is in crazily crowded lineups, with everyone concentrated in the same area but guess what? Having any kind of crowd in the waves outside your camp is noone's fault but yours. Wouldn't be a crowd if your "resort" wasn't there. So, going back to your comment about you not "privatising" the wave, I assume then that you don't have an agreement with the authorities that you are the only surf camp allowed in the area? If you DO have an agreement like that (I would be massively surprised if you didn't), then you ARE effectively privatising the wave, aren't you?
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
+wavepark
"My fat mouth". Charming!! Hahaha. I would expect a bit more professionalism in the face of criticism if you had any level of legitimacy at all. If you are so upset by negative comments, might I suggest turning off the ability to comment on here? There are plenty of people who disagree with the policies of "Surf Camps", which you suddenly claim not to be. You say yourselves on your website that you have built your resort on a "Secret Spot" - you're literally trading on this premise, despite the obvious irony that it can hardly be a "secret" anymore, since you're advertising it.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
@nomoreluke, you've been commenting up a storm on this video! I've published all your comments and replies, you sound pretty intelligent aside from your sweeping generalizations, your prejudice towards anybody who is not just like you, and the arrogance of course. Great to see that you're passionate about something, and interesting that you're so conflicted about the video. You support some of our suggested etiquette while wholeheartedly bashing the entire concept of providing a service which helps inexperienced surfers tackle waves of consequence.

Let's just be clear about one thing. We charge our guests money to A) transport them across 100nm of open ocean, delivering them safely to our resort in 3 hours. B) feed them 3 great meals a day, and stock a full bar C) provide them with safe and fast transport with a knowledgeable CPR and First Aid trained guide for all their ocean-going activities D) accommodate them in beachside bungalows on a private island E) give them as much electricity as they need, 24/7, from our own infrastructure F) provide a safety net for medivac because there is none provided by the local government G) provide an employee to guest ration of 2 employees for every 1 guest H) have a full time photographer, videographer and drone operator to document the best memories of their trip.

We don't charge people to surf, that is just an activity that we have in abundance around our resort. We've never claimed to have exclusivity over any waves, and we've never stopped anybody from surfing the wave in front of our resort. Privatization of waves maybe happening somewhere, but not here.

Please take the time to read 1 or 2 of the 60 reviews of our resort on Tripadvisor. Call it homework before you open your fat mouth again.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
I'm not mad fella - just fucking hate these parasites. They are the walking embodiment of everything that's wrong with surfing. They charge outrageous amounts of money for the "privilege" of surfing these privat spots that they create. Utter scum. Never have and never will support their bullshit camps.
Stephen Race Smith
Stephen Race Smith - 8 years ago
Could you get any more mad? I think not.
Sean Yeoh
Sean Yeoh - 8 years ago
Asshole overload in the comments who only think about themselves
ROKlJH UI
ROKlJH UI - 7 years ago
Surf clubs, and towns are privatisation of beaches. Surfcamps allow you to ride waves 100 miles from a hospital without dieing from gangrene or malaria. They also prevent the reef from being bombed by dirt poor pirates.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
Fella, surf camps are the biggest assholes in the history of surfing! You like the privatisation of surf spots do you? Fuck them and their entire philosophy.
steve brooke
steve brooke - 8 years ago
cheers . good information
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
Thank you Steve.
Sean Dillon
Sean Dillon - 8 years ago
"I wear booties every day"
Erwan Compes
Erwan Compes - 8 years ago
ALWAYS wear booties. LMAO
Sean Dillon
Sean Dillon - 8 years ago
If you need to watch this video you shouldn't be going to indo. If you need to watch this video you are either an aussy kook or a rich kook.
Sean Dillon
Sean Dillon - 7 years ago
been in indo since I commented that
Wes Hart
Wes Hart - 7 years ago
You watched this vid ya frikn amateur.
ROKlJH UI
ROKlJH UI - 8 years ago
I used to be like you, Always snaking deeper to get the wave. But then I grew up, I got a girlfriend, I moved out of home..One day all this may happen to you also. So, stay safe. Surfing remote reef breaks isn't for kids.
Erwan Compes
Erwan Compes - 8 years ago
Exactly!
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
Bollocks - if you want the wave, take off deeper than me. If you haven't got the balls, then fuck off home.
Scott Awaywithit
Scott Awaywithit - 8 years ago
as a kid i found the threat of a punch in the head was how you learned to respect other surfers. .....standard decorum.....my good man.
Ethan Petcos Media
Ethan Petcos Media - 8 years ago
wow! 1,391 subs but 1,000,000 views !!
Arsenic Pharaoh
Arsenic Pharaoh - 8 years ago
Just stay outta my way and you won't get hurt!!
fresnofalcon47
fresnofalcon47 - 8 years ago
Great set of guidelines. I want to surf where etiquette is enforced
jeff jeeves
jeff jeeves - 7 years ago
Lawn bowls? or croquet,lmao!
leonie burnham
leonie burnham - 8 years ago
fresnofalcon47 have you considered lawn bowls
pbowproductions
pbowproductions - 8 years ago
What is so bad about ejection? haha
jeff
jeff - 8 years ago
your board flings back and hits u or it can fling under u and u land on it
manuelott29
manuelott29 - 8 years ago
great tips,but after watching this video i'd rather go to costa rica...it is closer,cheaper and more beginner friendly.....
Nathaniel Girma
Nathaniel Girma - 8 years ago
Great Video.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
Thanks @Nathaniel Girma.
rafael tambourine
rafael tambourine - 8 years ago
I liked those
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
Thanks Rafael.
Robbie Irlam
Robbie Irlam - 8 years ago
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......
Robbie Irlam
Robbie Irlam - 8 years ago
Read teampullmyfingers comment below...
KERRY HUMBLE
KERRY HUMBLE - 8 years ago
Wakeup!!!!!!
ConcernedONETOO
ConcernedONETOO - 8 years ago
this is far and away the GAYest video commentary i've ever seen on surfing. Kind of reminds me of R. Crumb's 'Salty Dog Sam goes Suhfin''. Wut a faggot. Nobody owns the ocean. My old next door neighbor Greg Noll would certainly agree that this is BULLshit.
wavepark, you need to study the history of surfing. It's not based on the social media pablum you're promoting. Go organize a surf contest or something equally lame......
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
This is the point though - surf camps like to think that they DO own the ocean. Bunch of scum, the entire lot of them.
Hilbert França
Hilbert França - 8 years ago
so you're just more one asshole that likes to drop in on everyone else?
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
@ConcernedONETOO, I'd love to hear how the history of surfing relates to my etiquette suggestions. In fact, educate all of us, but don't be a grumpy condescending troll. Try a bit of logic and adult argument, you might like it.
martysgarden
martysgarden - 8 years ago
Stupid Snowballers, so common in Byron Bay where I live. Last time this happened to me the dude who snowballed me said" "wow you nearly made that"!
Hahahah eggroll

Happy surfing
Marty Ware (Australian Micro Farmer)
Luke Skywalker
Luke Skywalker - 6 years ago
martysgarden KYS
AH Gaming
AH Gaming - 6 years ago
Thats too far
Never Mind
Never Mind - 7 years ago
martysgarden < Then you take the next wave to the beach and key his shit. Or poke out a couple tires. Front right and left rear and then video the kook trying to leave.
YVAN PEDRON
YVAN PEDRON - 8 years ago
go to church.... and pray for us doctor
steven van nattan
steven van nattan - 8 years ago
theres 9 minutes I'll never get back, monotone drone is brutal.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
Feel free to redo it and I'll overdub.
poopie6205
poopie6205 - 8 years ago
Great vid, speaks true to respected breaks that hold refuge to good surf communities.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
@poopie6205, thanks so much for the support.
andre hurst
andre hurst - 8 years ago
Andre Dimitri Hurst surfs this
andre hurst
andre hurst - 8 years ago
Andre Hurst. thanks for tips
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
You're welcome.
pweter351
pweter351 - 8 years ago
Bloody amateur hour more money than skills what a joke waiting for everyone to have their turn. Where did you learn to surf?
Castelo Do Mar
Castelo Do Mar - 6 years ago
pweter351 I've been surfing 40 plus years. I used to be a dickhead like you. But then I chilled the fck out and started having fun in the line up.
Love,
Recovering Dickhead
Scott Awaywithit
Scott Awaywithit - 8 years ago
tru that.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
I spent the first 8 years of my surfing life body boarding in San Diego, Mexico and New Zealand. Then my friend convinced me to stand up, and now I've been doing that for 27 years. So... 35 years now? Man, startin' to feel old!
Tyg Rahof
Tyg Rahof - 8 years ago
This should be mandatory learning Before anyone is allowed to surf; anywhere. So tired of getting a*#holed, paddling in to kick their ass, then paddling back out again. Did it TWICE in Santa Cruz where people there think they own the waves. Now I only surf in bigger conditions now so there are less amateurs out in force. Thanks for taking the time to make this video!!
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
So you paddled in to "Kick someone's ass" and YOU'RE whining about etiquette?? What a fucking kook. Also, chest high isn't "bigger conditions" you armchair hero!
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
Cheers Tyg Rahof, I'm glad you found some value in it, and thanks for the feedback.
milkmandan77
milkmandan77 - 8 years ago
Protect yo neck!
Liam Davidson
Liam Davidson - 8 years ago
prix
Jon Salvador
Jon Salvador - 8 years ago
nice try, hardly anyone respects this, 4 boast trip there thus far
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
@Jon Salvador. Sounds like it's time to try something new next time you think of the Ments.
Facu Tomes
Facu Tomes - 8 years ago
it is very bad the video the worst video that i have seen
kelly teare
kelly teare - 8 years ago
Well done
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
Thanks @kelly teare!
Santheago
Santheago - 8 years ago
Thanks broh!
Saludos desde Baja!
John Surf
John Surf - 8 years ago
one more rule rednecks and Brazillans who come to Hawaii as Hawaiians we not compramizing any space for outsiders stop leaching off Hawaii!!! come visit and go home asap!!!! You folks not part of Hawaii and we diddent ask for you folks to come!!!!!
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
Leeching off Hawaii - do you have ANY idea how much money travelling surfers bring in? You retarded armchair warrior. "John" doesn't sound like a very Hawaiian name either fella, so I'd imagine that you're hardly a "local". Just a cunt. "We didn't ask for you folks to come" - so the Hawaiian state doesn't market Hawaii as a tourist destination then?? What a fucking retard.
InfidelHussarTM
InfidelHussarTM - 8 years ago
hahahahaah! u dont own Hawaii motherfucker !
parraphrase
parraphrase - 8 years ago
+John Surf I visited the cultural center on the South Shore of Oahu one time and they were saying that there's less than 1% of native Hawaiians left. I highly doubt that you're one of them. You and your family are Hawaiian squatter pretenders. You have no other way to find value in yourselves perhaps. Hope it's working for you brah. You''re just an imposter like every other resident on the islands except the 1% that's left.
YVAN PEDRON
YVAN PEDRON - 8 years ago
ridiculous.
Cameron David
Cameron David - 8 years ago
I live in florida and we surfers here get pretty hungry when its been flat for up to 2-3 weeks, yet as desperate as we are, the closest to the peak-priority rule still seems to work. It's also because most breaks i surf are scattered beach peaks, but there is one really odd rock break called RC's in central florida. The spot has 3-4 peaks with perfect lefts and shouldering close out rights. Everybody tries to get that perfect left hander, and there is the occasional drop in, but that is only because people don't understand the priority rule. But no body yells at anyone else, no fights break out, you may get the occasional angry hoot and holler but thats it. I'm not saying your technique does not work, because it seems like it does, but people come to my break to surf good waves and to perform their fullest on each wave. This isn't a wave where u let somebody shoulder hop because they have been waiting the longest, it is whoever is lucky enough to get the opportunity and is working the hardest, gets their waves. You can watch guys get 8 set waves in an hour and sure you will be annoyed, but they gambled the same amount as you did and they happened to be in the deepest zone. PLUS if somebody is sectioned out or falls on the drop, there is definitely going to be other guys trying to get the scraps of the wave. Also this is a wave where you and your buddies can happily share a ride when it gets to the chest high+ mark. I happened to share one of the most memorable waves ever with one of my good friends there. In the end of the day, it doesn't matter how your lineup is dictated, as long as it works and people enjoy themselves is all that matters. And if you have been in the water for an hour and have not had the chance to get into a wave, you are probably not at the right spot. Don't let angry keyboard warriors tell you what is right and wrong, as long as it works and people walk out with smiles, because I know I sure do! Thanks for the informational video!
Megz Montalvan
Megz Montalvan - 7 years ago
I surf up in that area.. paradise, hangers, the streets ... im still new (surfing consistently for almost 2 years) so not that great but i know to stay out of the way ... but sometimes when im doing that the more advanced surfers will actually call me out and tell me they dont mind sharing a wave. Sharing is caring they say. all places are different but melbourne and cocoa have some of the nicest people. we are all out there for the same thing. to have fun... we all share and love for the ocean and the feeling of surfing no matter how new you are or how long youve been surfing... as for the dick heads maybe they need to remember how it was when they started. you dont just grab a surfboard and become immediately amazing on it. why not help eachother out a little more.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
Thanks for the support @Cameron David. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion and most trolls are entertaining if nothing else. It is different everywhere, that's why we made this video just for Mentawai. Although by the comments of a lot of viewers, they would like this etiquette to exist elsewhere, but it's not really feasible in many places. Thanks for chiming in, and best of luck getting those smoking lefts off the peak at RC's.
Halli Girl
Halli Girl - 8 years ago
really cool
Weldon Mix
Weldon Mix - 8 years ago
You can tell from watching this just how important surfing really is. Amen
I'osua Iosua
I'osua Iosua - 8 years ago
Great wave man!
Kevin 2345
Kevin 2345 - 8 years ago
Just to clarify, so its not about who is sitting deeper but about who has been waiting for longest? Do people talk to each other in the lineup and let each other know who is next?

Just wondering since California is not like this. Its all about who is sitting deeper here.
Kevin 2345
Kevin 2345 - 8 years ago
+wavepark fair enough!  Thanks for the info, I'll shoot you an email shortly
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
As long as everybody goes home happy AND safe.  That's the whole point of putting the effort into making this video in the first place.  We'll never stop all injuries, but if people follow these tips, they'll have a better chance of staying off the reefs.  You can find the history of our business on our website: http://www.wavepark.com/about/history .  Feel free to email us as well: wavpeark.com@gmail.com
Kevin 2345
Kevin 2345 - 8 years ago
+wavepark gotcha.  as long as everyone goes home happy that's all that counts.  any chance i could ask how you've managed to set up a life out there?  I'm planning a trip out there soon, and I've got nothing tying me down back home.  
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
It is more crowded here these days, as is everywhere.  The only thing I can say is that every single trip since I've lived here (18 years x 25 trips / year) has seen our guests go home surfed out.  That is what counts as far as I'm concerned.
Kevin 2345
Kevin 2345 - 8 years ago
+wavepark got it.  how is the crowd vibe out there?  I've been wanting to go to the Mentawais so badly
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
+Kevin 2345 yes, that is how it works here. There's no need for people to talk about who is next. The point is to stay aware of your fellow surfers, and give them the space and respect until it is your turn, and they will do the same for you. So after you've had a wave, you paddle back and make a note of everybody that has been waiting since you caught your wave. Obviously there are times when too many people are coming and going into the lineup, and it becomes difficult to keep track. But it is pretty obvious when somebody has had a wave, or have just arrived in the lineup, and they paddle right past everybody and expect to get the next wave. They'll get called out pretty quick for doing that.
thejattlord
thejattlord - 8 years ago
If you live in a crowded place, learn to share the same wave with multiple people. If you really are a pro and want all the waves to yourself, fuck off to a surf resort and pay for it. Otherwise, learn to ride with others just as you would a train. No such thing as going "oh I got to the platform first, therefore I'm having this carriage to myself, you can wait for the next train". Time is limited son. Esp in today's day and age. That's why everyone's in a rush to catch waves in their 30-60min break.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
+thejattlord I'm not sure what you're on about?  As far as I can see, these are standards enforced by any surf tour operator in the Mentawai Islands.  Ask any guide out here if they would prefer to take care of respectful, polite surfers or assholes who think that you do whatever, wherever and whenever you like.
thejattlord
thejattlord - 8 years ago
+wavepark and you think that's sufficient enough of a reason for people to dance to your tunes but not you to theirs?
 
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
+thejattlord thanks for the input. Please keep in mind our waves are breaking hard over shallow coral. These are not your typical beach break weekend warrior waves. Additionally, we live 3 hours by speedboat ride (weather permitting) from a 3rd. world hospital. Add to that a $25,000 minimum bill for a medivac to the nearest 1st world hospital, and you can start to see why we like to encourage people to NOT share waves with each other.
legh davies
legh davies - 8 years ago
I am over 70 and still surf whenever I can. Indian Ocean, Caribbean, Canary Islands, Basque country.The rules here are fundamental and I learnt them many moons ago. If you are capable of surfing in the Mentawis you should know them as a matter of reflex - if you don't you shouldn't be surfing there or anywhere else that needs a level of experience and expertise. The problem lies in the fact that there are way too many people trying to surf in conditions way way beyond their level everywhere in the world. Learning to surf , what anyone tells you, takes years of hard grind and you really do not want to be going to the Mentawis unless you can. Surf guides -God help us!
parraphrase
parraphrase - 8 years ago
+legh davies Surf lifestyle as defined by...
legh davies
legh davies - 8 years ago
I like your positive attitude but I do think that if you need to ask any of the five questions you mention then you shouldn't be surfing the Mentawis but I realise you have a living to make if you have a surf camp but for me the whole idea of surf camps are an abhoration and go against the whole surf lifestyle.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
+legh davies , you're an inspiration to all of us, and I hope you can continue to surf until the end of your days. Everything you mentioned is a great reason to have a surf guide. Should you paddle for this one, or wait for the next one? Am I sitting in the right spot, or should I be 20ft. over that way? Should I take the first wave of the set, or wait for the third? Will the dropping tide make it better or worse? Should I conserve my energy and wait for the afternoon session? All of these questions we get asked hundreds of times a week by our guests who are keen to stay safe and get the best "bang for their buck", so to speak. Stay wet!
Lillie Certuche
Lillie Certuche - 8 years ago
surf 101
teampullmyfinger
teampullmyfinger - 8 years ago
Thank You  monotone dude with a firm grasp of the blatantly obvious.
Carlos A Ramos S S
Carlos A Ramos S S - 6 years ago
TankEnMate you're so right. .. common sense is the least common of all senses
TankEnMate
TankEnMate - 7 years ago
The problem with common sense is that it isn't common.
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
Obvious to us maybe man, not to most:/
Robbie Irlam
Robbie Irlam - 8 years ago
+teampullmyfinger Lol :)
Michael DeRyder
Michael DeRyder - 8 years ago
haha
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
+teampullmyfinger you're welcome.
Chris Young
Chris Young - 9 years ago
what if someone was getting the left shoulder could you get the right shoulder?
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+Chris Young there aren't a lot of waves out here that are peaks, most are either left or right. For the few waves that do peak, the most important thing is communication between the surfers. The surfer who has been waiting the longest gets to make the call which wave they are taking, and which way they are going. It all works out one way or another.
dayvo300
dayvo300 - 9 years ago
This was very helpful. Thankyou so much. Harry from the U.K
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
Cheers +dayvo300 for the support.
Kevin Vesey
Kevin Vesey - 9 years ago
personally I find if you growl at other surfers in the line-up you show you're the alpha surfer and by right can take all the waves you want until someone growls more ferociously at you and you become the bitch. Another method called the "out kook" method is where you bring a bus full of kooks and unleash them on the line up, wait 20 mins until the surfers already there snap and leave or get charged for assault then round up your kooks and go enjoy a peaceful session by yourself. Happy surfing folks
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
The guy was half serious:/ Growl,lol,hahahaha, he better be fuckin careful who he growls at,lol. Drop in on me and you get a board launched at your face, or punched out:/ There is no such thing as internet english, sarcasm does not come across well in text, like many other things:/
Cameron David
Cameron David - 7 years ago
I think people miss sarcasm because it may be they don't speak or fully understand internet english....
Mikhail
Mikhail - 7 years ago
Hello,
Where can I purchase some quality kooks?
Best regards
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
hahahahahahahahaaga:)
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
Wanker. The alpha surfer better be the alpha fighter if hes going to hassle me,lol. Most surfers are NOT fighters:/ The "outkook" method?? You have a lot of kook friends you surf with?? Not a good look man:/ No doubt you are American:/
Rob Aldridge
Rob Aldridge - 7 years ago
Kelly Smith Ha ha well said.
Kelly Smith
Kelly Smith - 8 years ago
Kevin Vesey growl at this. kooks like you we don't even resuscitate
Scott Awaywithit
Scott Awaywithit - 8 years ago
i think he meant it as ....A WARNING.
Scott Awaywithit
Scott Awaywithit - 8 years ago
yearight....got 20 outside....right now....duh.
Kevin Vesey
Kevin Vesey - 8 years ago
+Republicanistan Ah another disgruntled "surfer", (yes yes I use the term extremely loosely) who was outfoxed by the techniques mentioned above. There there sir, on the bright side you now have more time to call strangers kooks online and that after all is what many scholars claim to be the meaning of life. 
Republicanistan
Republicanistan - 8 years ago
+Kevin Vesey stay out of the water kook.
Cameron David
Cameron David - 8 years ago
+Kevin Vesey hahahaha sooooo true!!!!
Kizmit
Kizmit - 9 years ago
I have been surfing a couple years now and seems like the biggest downer about surfing...is other surfers. This is why I LOVE surfing cold water in the Northwest. I am usually the only one out there and never have to deal with all this nonsense you guys area talking about. I don't think I would want to surf anywhere where there are a lot of surfers. Most surfers sound really selfish know it alls and get butthurt super easily. Shame.
Rob Aldridge
Rob Aldridge - 7 years ago
Kizmit I'm a geezer and surfed on and off 50 years on the west coast. the best (and biggest) wave I ever caught was South of the breakwater breakwaterat Westport. This day was better than Santa Cruz, Oregon breaks, Los Angeles breaks and other Wa. breaks. This was '95 so got to rub it in to my Cal. friends with email; "yeah it was terrible, overhead and off shore...sheesh 7-10 waves sets and 5 surfers, man almost had to move over 50ft. to have a wave by myself!" Of course I got lots of "I can't hear you!" "Go to heck" and other words naughty words.
Flips Tanah
Flips Tanah - 7 years ago
Powerpenguins so your one of those kids...
Mang Led McGee
Mang Led McGee - 7 years ago
Kizmit sorry, the answer was, sharknado.
2ndEarth
2ndEarth - 7 years ago
SHARKS!!!
Powerpenguins
Powerpenguins - 7 years ago
stfu u dont surf lol
Maria da Gloria Meusel
Maria da Gloria Meusel - 7 years ago
Mang Led McGee Gesten habe gesehen eineerpaasieindianerinmitdeutschmann
Mang Led McGee
Mang Led McGee - 7 years ago
Kizmit almost the same in the north bay.
nybe
nybe - 8 years ago
I think he's talking Pacific Northwest of USA
Jasper van Loo
Jasper van Loo - 8 years ago
put the big piece of text above in google translate :P all the info you need
Hilbert França
Hilbert França - 8 years ago
are there surfing spots in the netherlands? :O i had no idea! Im from Brazil. What are the best surfing spots out there?
OfficialHDtrailerz
OfficialHDtrailerz - 8 years ago
+Jasper van Loo Haha super, dankje man. Ik heb nog nooit in de Noordzee gesurft. Ik ben wel van plan naar Cornwall in Engeland te gaan en ooit eens Frankrijk, Portugal. 
Jasper van Loo
Jasper van Loo - 8 years ago
+OfficialHDtrailerz ligt aan de swell, meestal met een noordelijke swell zakt te golfhoogte af naarmate je naar zuidelijkere stranden gaat, en met een zuidwester is het precies andersom. meestal heeft het noorden wel een grotere golfhoogte, maar doordat het ook meer wind pakt is het vaak ook wat mushier. meestal surf ik zelf in zandvoort (niet omdat t t beste is maar omdat het t dichts bij is. daar moet je wel oppassen voor stroming bij hoog tij en crossshore wind. leftys en righthanders, afhankelijk van de bankjes), wijk aan zee (de havenpier brengt wat beschutting tegen de wind, en pakt wat van de hoogere swell uit het noorden, kan heel crowded zijn als die spot t beste uit komt. lefty) en scheveningen (wat meerdere opties heeft zoals de entertainment pier links en rechts wat bij laag tij de beste golfen heeft (bij hoog tij wordt t een shorebreak op kleine dagen), en de noord bij de havenpier, wat bij mid/opkoment tij t meeste kracht heeft, en dat is een lefty. ik hoop dat je hier genoeg aan heb xD en t allerbeste is vlieland en texel, omdat daar vaak t meeste kans is op aflandige wind, omdat je de west en noordkant van t eiland kan surfen
OfficialHDtrailerz
OfficialHDtrailerz - 8 years ago
+Jasper van Loo Waar kun je het best surfen in Nederland ik ga normaal gezien altijd naar Costa Rica?
Jasper van Loo
Jasper van Loo - 8 years ago
+ohhDarkstar nee snap k 
A. Brio
A. Brio - 8 years ago
+Kizmit totally agree Kizmit! surfed in Portugal few times but nothing like surfing here in Ireland! Few people in, the majority knows the surf etiquette and the majority enjoys their waves! All are good to surf in warm climates!
jvdv
jvdv - 8 years ago
+Jasper van Loo bij breda in de buurt, ik vind het ook niet waard om zo lang onderweg te zijn voor de golven bij bv. Zeeland
Jasper van Loo
Jasper van Loo - 8 years ago
+ohhDarkstar waar woon je dan? ik moet eerst half uur bus, half uur trein en dan weer een uur bus xD das pittig lastig met een 6.2tje en een grote tas vol neopreen :P heb het 1 keer met mn 9.4 geprobeerd maar dat was eens maar nooit meer
jvdv
jvdv - 8 years ago
+Jasper van Loo nog altijd kut als je diep in nl woont
Jasper van Loo
Jasper van Loo - 8 years ago
+ohhDarkstar yupp, ikr, but this week we have some good swell from a storm above Scotland, so this week we  have a nice average from hip to overhead (tomorrow 2.6m wave hight, and Saturday we finally have sp,e groundswell with shoulder hight waves :D)
jvdv
jvdv - 8 years ago
+Jasper van Loo p but in holland the waves are really bad,fucking england.
Jasper van Loo
Jasper van Loo - 9 years ago
+Kizmit same for holland, at my home spot (Zandvoort aan Zee for the dutchies here) there are usually 4 or 5 people in the lineup at a time, and at work times you are alone XD
Xcalabre gaming
Xcalabre gaming - 9 years ago
if you like surfing surf like me
Pola Ride
Pola Ride - 9 years ago
I can admit to myself that i will ever be able to surf like slater. But i dont think 90% of short boarders realise this. Everyone is so serious in the water these days. Have fun for fucks sake, share waves. Surf mals, fishes, guns, whatever. to suit conditions. But if you paddle out on a 5"9 on a 1.5 foot day with 50 people in the water. i personally think youd have more fun on a mal. good luck with that round house cut back..hope your nipples tingle when you think someone saw it. "daddy look at me" Competition surfing has fucked up the attitude in the lineup. If your not at least on the WQS then chill out.....surf rage ?? why??
Michael Williams
Michael Williams - 7 years ago
soulwaves20000
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
AMEN Christie:)
soulwaves20000
soulwaves20000 - 8 years ago
+D.I. L.F My thoughts exactly. One time l was in France, surfing a 2 foot peak, we were 3 guys out...one dude said, after we both caught a wave, "take the left" or smth like that...like the dude wanted to make rules in this tiny insignificant surf session. I said what???? He was like, nevermind...they take temselves so seriously. Just stop thinking, catch a few waves, have fun. If you're bored with surfing take up a land sport ffs.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
Totally agree +D.I. L.F. I always say if you're not having fun surfing, you're doing something wrong.
Rodrigo Leite
Rodrigo Leite - 9 years ago
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wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
Hey @Rodrigo Leite, I think there's something wrong with your keyboard. Might want to get that checked out.
Epiks Games
Epiks Games - 9 years ago
Really nice video!
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
Thanks @Epiks Games, we try...
anon94707
anon94707 - 9 years ago
Cool stuff brotha. all good tips. especially about paddling toward the foam to get out of the way.
wavepark
wavepark - 8 years ago
@anon94707, thanks man. We put in the time, hoping that it'll help somebody out there get some good waves and stay safe.
gamble jason
gamble jason - 9 years ago
Solid video I suggest this to be a standard for all surf spots round the world! And at the dinner table! Paz!
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
Thanks +gamble jason . We're just trying to keep people safe in the water so everybody can enjoy themselves.
Dave Hitchins
Dave Hitchins - 9 years ago
Christie Carter has got the balls to police these lineups that have no real locals to do that job. A boat load of guys can arrive at a spot and wreck everyone else's session by taking over the takeoff spot. I've seen Christie confront these groups and that takes guts when they are a bunch of gorillas.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
Cheers +Dave Hitchins . We're all out here for the same reason, and everybody deserves a chance to catch the wave of their lives.
Randsurfer
Randsurfer - 9 years ago
Rule #1. Don't invade the Mentawais with your surf park tourist scheme and start laying down your pussy rules.
Randsurfer
Randsurfer - 9 years ago
+wavepark
Once again you go back to missing the point.  You should be ashamed pretending you own the ocean and the waves.  Here's a clue:  If we  ever cross paths in the ocean, you can be sure I  won't be taking my marching orders from you. And I would imagine a million other surfers feel the same.  Good luck with your so-called private surf retreat, fascist.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+Randsurfer yes, great. I'm glad to be done with this thread. You making the rules about me NOT making the rules is not making a lot of sense.
Randsurfer
Randsurfer - 9 years ago
+wavepark Yeah, good luck with that. You don't own the Mentawais and you don't make the rules. That's exactly the point of my original post. We've come full circle, but thanks for admitting it.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+Randsurfer Yes, that's how we've set it up. You can be the most mediocre surfer in the world, but when you come to Mentawai, regardless of whether you stay on a charter boat or resort, you'll have the same chance to catch a great wave as any pro who comes along. Ride a SUP? Fine. Slide on your belly? Great. No prejudice, we're all here to do the same thing. We live in an area where there are no rules, so we make up our own that seem to work fine.
I like to call it "Disneyland for surfers". Wait your turn and get called into the best wave of your life. Nobody else paddles for your wave to snowball you, nobody else drops in and stuffs you up on the reef. It takes the pressure off and allows average surfers to get above average waves with support from everybody in the lineup.
Randsurfer
Randsurfer - 9 years ago
Who are you to go to a foreign country and set up a business and start laying down rules for other visitors?  Your rules are just to protect your business interests.  So more mediocre surfers will pay you thousands of dollars.  You really think some dork sitting on the shoulder has priority and everyone should let a wave go through just on the chance that he might catch it just because it's "his turn"?
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+Randsurfer Nice copout
Randsurfer
Randsurfer - 9 years ago
I've never seen anybody miss the point so badly.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
Ok +Randsurfer . So your rule is that I can't make rules? Geez, pot calling the kettle black a little aren't ya?
John Maltman
John Maltman - 9 years ago
It's sad that even for remote locations like the Mentawis, you have to post a video just to reinforce common sense and etiquette. Though, honestly I never thought about paddling into the close-out,whitewater section of a wave as opposed to the shoulder. He sounds flat because he's been out surfing all day and how else would one want to sound? Really it just comes down to not being a douche and being aware that we all make mistakes and feel like a kook sometimes. It should be the waves giving the lessons and not the other way around, but some people need a guide for sure. One last thing, I remember quite a few years back I was surfing without a leash in some thigh high surf. There were maybe five people out and it was in no danger of hitting anyone. Some dick head was paddling out and was like, "Hey bro, that's super dangerous you shouldn't do that unless you are an expert like I am." I was surprised, but I let it slide. Before I left, I watched him drop in on someone and his board go off spinning towards the beach. I didn't need to say anything, I just laughed and shook my head.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+John Maltman it should all be common sense, I agree. There's a lot of surfers out there though who are making their first trip overseas, their first surf trip away from their home breaks, and often times their first trip to coral reef waves! The only reason we made the video is because we were seeing people do dangerous things to themselves and others that could easily be avoided. We're getting paid to make sure that people are kept safe and catching the waves of their lives, so it made sense to assume that nobody knows anything, and start from scratch. Thanks for your comments and support!
Jardel K. Cocconi
Jardel K. Cocconi - 9 years ago
Snow balls man...could not agree more on that one.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
Yeah, +Jardel Cocconi pet peeve of mine as well. Super dangerous!
Montana Weatherby
Montana Weatherby - 9 years ago
I really like this video... and makes me wanna go surf menta;s well I've always wanted too but thats not the point! haha but honestly i wish people here in cali would follow the line up rule... where everyone gets a turn... its always a battle :P Left waves person to the right of you gets it... and Vice versa... so since I'm always out there doing that... it makes me feel sad when i hear wait your turn to go... it makes me feel like a kook :( but i am a kook so its ok, i guess xD
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+Montana Weatherby , you can't believe the feeling of calling your friend into the wave of their life, and seeing the grin on their face afterwards. It's what keeps us doing what we're doing. Hope to call you into one someday. Cheers!
wildthang32
wildthang32 - 9 years ago
I accidentally clicked on this video, and I know how to duckdive and everything, I always go by my self at my own secret spot.
John Sanders
John Sanders - 9 years ago
It's ok having tips like these but the general rule of thumb is to have some common sence & not put others into harms way....if you're risking scraping your knuckes duck-diving then your're also risking fucking you're board up so thats a no-brainer, Dont duck-dive....time it right to skip over if it's shallow. But Basically....don't be a dick & show some respect, treat others how you would like to be treated. And have fun! :D
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+John Sanders , there are a whole bunch of techniques for surfing shallow reef breaks that I don't even go into on this video. I would also think common sense should prevail, and then I read the daily newspaper and remember that it doesn't.
Samuel Acosta
Samuel Acosta - 9 years ago
I learned something from this though, if you ditch your board make sure its parallel with the lip. Can anyone attest to this working?
SpeedE
SpeedE - 7 years ago
I can, I wiped out (didn't ditch) and the board was perpendicular with the lip and it hit someone. I imagine with bigger waves than I ever get the board could break or do worse things who knows.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+Samuel Acosta I can, but then I'm biased because I made the video :~)
Samuel Acosta
Samuel Acosta - 9 years ago
Honestly though, if everyone followed these rules and didn't surf like it was a competition every time, everything would flow a lot nicer out there.
eliguaso22
eliguaso22 - 6 years ago
Well there's always that one asshole that do this everywhere not necessarily norteamérica... but in general is true.
Arjuna
Arjuna - 6 years ago
Honestly, I don't think it's a "follow the rules thing" more of a "I'm a competitive American that has to prove himself and his manliness or feminineness". It happens in things other than surfing. This problem you are describing rarely occurs in Europe or anywhere else outside of America.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+Samuel Acosta it does for sure.
Steve Stewart
Steve Stewart - 9 years ago
..BY ALL ACCOUNTS,,CHRISTIE STILL STILL RUNS A VERY COOL PLACE TO SURF N' CHILL.
Steve Stewart
Steve Stewart - 8 years ago
No mate, never have been. Presently Myanmar but still based in Sumatra.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
Cheers +Steve Stewart, are you still involved in the Telos?
Steve Stewart
Steve Stewart - 9 years ago
MENTAWIIS..30+ CHARTER BOATS, 20+ SURF CAMPS..'NUFF SAID.
TALK IS CHEAP..UNTIL U HIRE A LAWYER.
Gary Castle
Gary Castle - 9 years ago
Most Beginners have no common sense, and need to be told all these little rules like golf, bowling, etc, its etiquette and common sense, NO drop in!, Yes Paddle around (its easier), don't dip to deep, knuckles really!  All your new friends talked about it on your boat all the way to the break then everyone jumps in and all this sharing crap your bestis friends talked about, goes out the window, everyone for themselves, and the oldest member gets grumbley, Hey if you're in the SPOT you go period...the waves don't play by the rules. You try to take turns but if thier are only 3 waves a set, the first guys on are going to be back on it again the next 3, same guys, those are the snakes, and chumps and not your friends, everyone pays, and if your not one of the 3 you feel cheated.  answer: You paddle stronger and deeper and its yours!!! and HOOT...don't be a KOOK!
Gary Castle
Gary Castle - 9 years ago
I had to buy my own surf spot in el salvador so i dont have to travel for 3 days to get to the waves, Da mango haus.com at Punto Mango pt. on the cliff above the spot, cloest to the surf, holds 10 guests 25 night w/air cond. Gary
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
Hi +Gary Castle, everybody brings their hometown culture to these islands, and being a kook is all relative. I totally agree with you that most of this stuff should be common sense, but in my experience a lot of it needs to be explained to keep the lineups friendly and safe for everybody. We're all out here trying to get barreled, right?
Paul Smith
Paul Smith - 9 years ago
Thank you for this video. I wish I had seen such a thing when I first started surfing many years ago. I’m the long boarder who catches the wave outside and rides it into where the short boarders are lined up. But I don’t catch “every wave” because I consider that there are other surfers. That is the bottom line… There are others. Anyone who doesn't like rules will never get along with others because no one… NO ONE likes someone who thinks only of themselves. These are good rules! Obviously they are with the intent to share. However, the best “rule” was not mentioned. It is the “Golden Rule”. Matt. 7:12. It always applies! It applies even when other rules don’t cover the situation. If others would just follow that "rule".... surfing in crowds could be much more enjoyable.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
Do unto others +Paul Smith . Life would be a lot better if people followed this, not just surfing! Peace!
iLiveOnFijiTime
iLiveOnFijiTime - 9 years ago
These are the rules in every single surf spot, unless you're just out with your friends and no one else. However lineup position really depends on the waves most times. Just because its not your turn doesn't mean you have to let go of a wave which no one else but you could have taken.  Take it. And yes pro surfers take waves all the time even when it is clearly not theirs.
iLiveOnFijiTime
iLiveOnFijiTime - 9 years ago
+wavepark Yea you're right actually. :D 
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
Hi +iLiveOnFijiTime , most pros when they come over here are really cool, maybe just because they are on holiday, but they are always giving waves away and have a big smile on their face. Sometimes there is the odd "semi-pro" who has something to prove with photographers in the water, but karma has a way of coming around real quick out here, and most people pull their heads in.
Marko Samec
Marko Samec - 9 years ago
nice video, thanks! hope that pople listen and "play" by these "rules", that are essentially just common sense!
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+Marko Samec everybody seems to get it over here. Once they realize that a hospital is 4 hours away by the fastest boat available through open ocean, they normally just settle into island time and relax.
keelan smith
keelan smith - 9 years ago
this video is fkn shit.  you only need two rules ; don't drop in and don't snake..  the waves over there arnt crowded so why all the rules.. i don't care how long you have been surfing for man your rules are stupid.. people surf and go on surf trips to escape the real world and get away for a few hours or a few days.. the last thing i would want after paying thousands of dollars  to go surf these waves is someone telling me from the shoulder "don't do this", " don't do that".. your defeating the purpose of surfing and wrecking the culture..
stfuliberal
stfuliberal - 7 years ago
Agree. You get a handful of pros in the lineup and the other 20-30 plus guys are fucked for getting any good waves.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+keelan smith thanks for telling us how you really feel. If you're not willing to give a few waves away to your fellow surfers, don't bother coming out here, because that's what we ask of everybody.
Dead poolmonkey
Dead poolmonkey - 9 years ago
That makes no sense, the early stages of surfing their was no where near as many people in the water they sure we're getting barrelled or going as fast as we do now a days. So with that said it is essential that their is some type of guidelines and rules so no one gets hurt. If you are going to pay thousands of dollars for a surf trip don't go somewhere where it's crowded and theirs a bunch of rules simple as that. And talking about surf culture a big part of it was in the Hawaii islands and how they went about things respecting each other. They didn't need as many rules because they all respected each other and wouldn't do dumb shit like some kooks these guys are. Get the fuck out of here.
I'M ALIAS TV
I'M ALIAS TV - 9 years ago
If you come to mentawai islands, don't get in, this is the only way you'll not break a rule.
Nicholas Evans
Nicholas Evans - 9 years ago
I like it! Its the same as skating. Wait your then take your turn. If you go out of turn then your a snake and it wont be tolerated. I wish all surf break were like the Mentawai's.
Kevin McDonnell
Kevin McDonnell - 9 years ago
Wow Laird Hamilton commenting on a youtube video ...... very cool
Cam Read
Cam Read - 9 years ago
+Maritime Sentry you aren't a libertarian at all......
Cam Read
Cam Read - 9 years ago
+Maritime Sentry You think you are a libertarian but you are not. (I read your other comments) Surf etiquette is about more than 'rules', it is a culture of respect for the individual AND the community. Also, you are a homophobic asswipe.
Sean MacDonald
Sean MacDonald - 9 years ago
+Maritime Sentry both of them
CHRISTOPHER CARAFINO
CHRISTOPHER CARAFINO - 9 years ago
+NigelTufnel67 Laird Hamiltion is a queer.
Dead poolmonkey
Dead poolmonkey - 9 years ago
I fucking hate so much when long boarders paddle all the way out the horizon then they paddle for every wave. So annoying, and then once they've had like 10 waves they act like its their life when you take one.
lockodonis
lockodonis - 7 years ago
I'd love to drop in on you!
Nirvana Sup
Nirvana Sup - 7 years ago
I am a sup surfing from and have been dropped in on it is inoing
Nirvana Sup
Nirvana Sup - 7 years ago
Dead poolmonkey wow u bitches are horrible! Lol
Never Mind
Never Mind - 7 years ago
RIZL MixTape <<Back in the day we called that "Shoulder hopping".
Its a legitimate practice if a kook consistantly misses waves or purposely backs out. Key word- consistently. I'd politely suggest they move down the beach and ride soup till they grow a pair.
Never Mind
Never Mind - 7 years ago
PipeLineGt - They're mostly idiot fitness freaks with no lives and nothing to do. Alot of pseudo yuppies in that bunch that have an immense sense of entitlement and could use a good sorting on the beach?
BRad From THe Valley
BRad From THe Valley - 7 years ago
when they paddle across behind you and take the wave
Down Irish
Down Irish - 7 years ago
Kaptain Kid sounds like your a peniz
bob miller
bob miller - 7 years ago
Thats why you paddle over to them and tell em to knock it the phuk off of youre going to rearrange their teeth. That tends to keep them from being dicks and hogging the waves. If it doesnt you kick their fukeen ass.
Kaptain Kid
Kaptain Kid - 7 years ago
@Dead poolmonky . . . maybe you outta get a longboard. Sounds like you have penis envy.
zaccyo
zaccyo - 7 years ago
You must be from Noosa bro haahaha
shane brady
shane brady - 7 years ago
That comment is pretty silly man, a longboard allows you entry to the wave before it gets critical, in most cases of course you can surf a hollow wave with a longboard, just not the barrel, so not for me anyway:/
PipeLineGt
PipeLineGt - 7 years ago
I hate Paddle boarders
oregonxyz
oregonxyz - 7 years ago
lots of times, shortboarders are surfing a longboard wave...

you can't surf a shortboard wave w/ a longboard cuz you will perl every time
2ndEarth
2ndEarth - 7 years ago
As a former long boarder turned short, I couldn't agree more. I can't stand the long boarders who force you to drop on them because they take every wave with no consideration for short boarders. Just because long boarders have a different tool that allows them to take the wave earlier doesn't give them the right to dominate the Ocean because others follow "etiquette."
CagedMusic
CagedMusic - 7 years ago
so true
ITSjustWOOL
ITSjustWOOL - 8 years ago
nothing at all wrong with a long board, its the people that use them that are the problem when they refuse to take turns catching waves because they can catch a wave way before it peaks
Nathan Adkins
Nathan Adkins - 8 years ago
nothing wrong with a longboard. I do not like short boards because they do not float well. you most likely started out on a longboard
Luka Amechi
Luka Amechi - 8 years ago
in finland people try to surf chop I'm not kidding no waves and freaking wind chop when there is a heavy storm
ITSjustWOOL
ITSjustWOOL - 8 years ago
+Dead poolmonkey +Kizmit Many long boarders have evolved in a much more foul ferocious beast. They call it the SUP plague.
Jasper van Loo
Jasper van Loo - 9 years ago
+Jay Bauer thats why i love holland, the funky laid back underground surfing is still there, you're mostly sitting with only 4 other people in the line up, and only a few getting-ready-for-the-holiday classes in the weekends (except for spots like Scheveningen or Wijk aan Zee), the downside of it is that we usually have 1 til 5 feet mush for 4/5 seconds rides, and only have ground swells in winter when the water is 4 degrees celsius xD
sam McDonald
sam McDonald - 9 years ago
When I was pumping on a line like last week some longboarder came out of know were and just ran me over
Kaine Tucker
Kaine Tucker - 9 years ago
+van wray he means hates it when longboarders paddle for his wave that he is already on and when you drop in on them they hate it and act as if its their like on the line.
van wray
van wray - 9 years ago
+Dead poolmonkey
I hated that too. More foam is your friend. I've gotten a board that's much thicker and a foot bigger but still shaped as a short board. I can now get into the wave much earlier and get more waves. It performs better than my smaller boards. You'll have a good balance of looseness and control. It has more volume, flotation, and paddling capability. Try it, you'll get more waves for sure.
Jardel K. Cocconi
Jardel K. Cocconi - 9 years ago
+Jay J truth, why do you have to go for every single one??
Dead poolmonkey
Dead poolmonkey - 9 years ago
+Jay Bauer ouch
sam McDonald
sam McDonald - 9 years ago
I hate it to bra
Jean AArouet
Jean AArouet - 9 years ago
All good advice...worked well before surfing became a sort of pre-school mentality  indulgent agro junkies, bullies and morons.....which some of the comments indicate....the sort of behaviour one might expect from some life-savers. Impounding your board meant boards for them to use on the weekend....and you got back a ding crate sometimes simply because your board drifted into the flagged area before you could recover it. (no leg ropes then).   

When the sets are slow...guys who drop in generally paddle back to where they were before and drop in again. I remember moving more and more close to a reef to get a wave so maybe the bastard would give me a break....when he did by that time as I cranked a right suddenly it was all rock.....end of board and nearly end of me. Locals think this is amusing....trashing people who are not. One of our truly beautiful surfers Nat Young was renowned for it but he finally ended up in hospital about age 45....bashed by an angry surfer.

Many other top surfers thought they had the divine right but weren't so keen when they cold see you coming for them on the beach....all of a sudden it was 'sorry mate' after dropping in on you all day. The advice given here is what gentlemen surfers used to do, so let's hope it strikes a chord.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+Jean AArouet thanks for the support. Common sense should prevail, but often characters feeling entitled need to get a heads up when they import their hometown culture to our special islands and endanger everybody out there.
Dan Sugarlone
Dan Sugarlone - 9 years ago
wise words, should be common knowledge of all surfers! 
Peace from BALI
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+Brown Sugar Thanks for the support!
Richard
Richard - 9 years ago
Basically, don't surf here unless you are already awesome at surfing.
David Pharo
David Pharo - 7 years ago
Richard Put them on the reef, were they belong
MeesterVegas
MeesterVegas - 7 years ago
wavepark And so kids who are learning to surf, while paddling out should be able to outmaneuver a surfer barreling down the line so they can "get out of the way?" You tell me who is more maneuverable, a surfer standing with some speed, or someone on their belly. People need to accept that sometimes shit just happens, and quit being such little bitches about it. Fuck man, surfing is supposed to be fun, but it has gotten to be a bunch of dickheads. Like a bunch of fucking addicts trying to get their fix, without any compassion or regard for the imperfection of their fellow man.
wavepark
wavepark - 9 years ago
+falcoperegrinus82 actually we get kids who are learning to surf all the time.
Chris Jernigan
Chris Jernigan - 9 years ago
+Rich Mill lol ok see who's the jackass when you're being slammed into coral reef
Jono Edwards
Jono Edwards - 9 years ago
So he means "fade the poostance gumby in da pit?" 
Angry Brazilian get you at de bar when you alone bro an den you get sore face from pooman angry fist,OUCH. Den you try only Japanese kook an he kung foo yu an den you spend rest of trip wid sore kneecap man. Next trip Tonga maybe local an brazilian more friendly toward poostance hater? I cannot help dis problem,it alway get me injured. Thanks for de words Wavepark.
Guilherme Pallerosi
Guilherme Pallerosi - 9 years ago
nice
proausie
proausie - 9 years ago
u are a dead set wanker take turns that should be the only rule otherwise let people do what they want ffs
Steven Cooper
Steven Cooper - 9 years ago
As a 20+ year veteran of surfing in socal waters, I have to say, this is a great concept for people on a guided surf trip. I could totally respect letting everyone have a chance and talking turns. Not sure If this happens anywhere else......and the Mentawis are too far when you have kids and a job...but I would love to see this place someday. On my bucket list.
Mr1screwloose
Mr1screwloose - 10 years ago
That was gay.
T Tank
T Tank - 10 years ago
All this "my wave anger" is why I quit board surfing to concentrate on surf kayaking. (Also I kind of suck at surfing now.) I can simply paddle to a few remote spots north of Santa Cruz and surf  waves in complete isolation.  I can see your rules working with 10 to 15 people out and plenty of waves coming in, but how could it possibly work in a place like Steamer Lane where you can see 100 plus surfers, of all abilities, fighting for the waves.  Sometimes and in some places the assholes win! 
bobice555
bobice555 - 10 years ago
"something we enforce as surf guides..." that's complete bs. If you've been to Playgrounds, you know that surf guides don't "enforce" anything. 
alex coyote
alex coyote - 10 years ago
Great tips thank u very much..
Ted Dex
Ted Dex - 10 years ago
I guess divitmusic is the next guy I shall drop in on.
Juan Manuel Villegas
Juan Manuel Villegas - 10 years ago
ejections ARE cool
Instalurk
Instalurk - 10 years ago
whats up with all these white dudes going to other tropical islands and thinking they make the rules and run the spot. typical anglo bullshit
Alexander Minnick
Alexander Minnick - 8 years ago
+MethAddict69 oh yeah for sure, MethAddict69
vnoockthebrain
vnoockthebrain - 10 years ago
Two weeks ago I surfed on the same spot with an Europe champion. And several times with other popular and skilled surfers. And I can say, they don't give a shit about rules and priorities. These assholes just go ahead, risking to injure others and themselves. 
Stefan Widerin
Stefan Widerin - 10 years ago
I'd love to see a break where everybody gets his chance, not only those who bully most for it. If you do own an island, then I'd agree that it's your waves. If you own shit then stop being an asshole and let other people surf too. Nice video!
Mathew Dos Santos
Mathew Dos Santos - 10 years ago
iv'e landed on my board after ejecting before and bruised my ribs
Jason Sadek
Jason Sadek - 10 years ago
Accents like half Aus half US wtf
GAEL truc
GAEL truc - 10 years ago
what i just see is people who surf a speed wave .i surf 36 YEARS if you make a late take off or to much down i respect you and i take the whave because you do nothing all and i repect the wave to
JRD 360
JRD 360 - 10 years ago
quit ur job 
55nublet
55nublet - 10 years ago
I did not save me sorry i give respect to those who give it and any body of water... Why are you online and not surfing paradise???
Bob Foreman
Bob Foreman - 10 years ago
It's actually who is closer to the peak
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
Aside from the fact that France has hundreds of miles of world class beach breaks and countless empty peaks... Why are you surfing crowded spots??
55nublet
55nublet - 10 years ago
+Molo mono
if i ever go surf a place with idiots i bust out the 9'6" long-board that will tank the wave lol..
Molo mono
Molo mono - 10 years ago
Depends on the country. France and basque country gave the finger to respecting fellow surfers, they are the biggest assholes in the world and will constantly fuck up your line regardless of how long you've been waiting or where you catch the wave. 

When surfing most beaches in the basque region i just whistle/yell if i'm already on the wave and someone tries to catch it. After that you just pray he has a little bit of dignity. 
Tobias Klein
Tobias Klein - 10 years ago
In some breaks and competitions in general yes,
but not always
Robert Pantiliano
Robert Pantiliano - 10 years ago
to all the Surf Nazis
Alec Meirelles
Alec Meirelles - 10 years ago
thanks a lot for this man! very useful to me (and multiple other) beginners
OuchTaser
OuchTaser - 10 years ago
Really awesome video! I've watched several times - but man you sound flat bro. Bit of a downer. I feel like a douche even thinking of coming to Mentawai now.
anon94707
anon94707 - 9 years ago
+OuchTaser it don't matter. He's giving advice, not out there ripping.
Dead poolmonkey
Dead poolmonkey - 10 years ago
Hahaha I know man a tip would be talk and listen to your self. Pick the voice that sounds has the most enthusiasm
wavepark
wavepark - 10 years ago
+OuchTaser Thanks for watching and commenting.  Nobody likes the sound of their own voice, especially me.  I haven't taken voice lessons and I'm not an actor.  Maybe you have some tips instead of just ripping me a new one?
tdatreefrog
tdatreefrog - 10 years ago
I enjoy surfing and the ocean too much to care about being so impatient. I stay out of the way, surf on my own and dont even take the chance of dealing with all of the b.s. To me it ruins the experience to even have to think about it. I always find my own break. Unfortunatley I know some places are too crowded to do that.
MrPetrolekas
MrPetrolekas - 10 years ago
Great video -- Thanks...
TheBuckStopsHere
TheBuckStopsHere - 10 years ago
All 907 subscribers are a bunch of pussies just like the guy talking. Waterpark..... An appropriate name for a group of morons that need to be told not to dive headfirst into a reef.
Cam Read
Cam Read - 9 years ago
+Bucko 151 You are so tough its awesome
nils lofta
nils lofta - 10 years ago
"locals have the say" is the stupidest thing happening to surfing...it is similar to racism and i'm glad thhere are still places where people share smiles, hoots and respect to their neighbour in the lineup. I always went to locals presenting myself, asking stories about the place and rarely got hassled... Localism is a plague
Jake Hale
Jake Hale - 6 years ago
Mark Wadia man you don't own shit grow up and stop bitching
Mark Wadia
Mark Wadia - 6 years ago
Saying someone can't surf a spot because they're not from there is one thing. That's localism in the most pejorative sense. But a stranger or beginner paddling out and immediately sitting at the top of the peak needs to be checked. And that's done by the folks who surf that break regularly.

The problem with surf culture now adays is NOT that there are more kooks. (And there are more kooks. Surfing now resembles tennis more than what it used to be.) The problem is that the kooks don't know they're kooks. At most spots the social hierarchy has been washed out by throngs of weekend warriors. They surf waves they shouldn't be surfing. They blow more waves than they make. They dominate priority with the size of their boards. They're only looking down the line when paddling for waves. They drop in on others. The get in the way of competent surfers. And they're dangerous. Still, they don't recognize their relative lack of ability and don't adjust where they surf and how they approach the lineup. They have their own set of rules and make surfing less fun and more dangerous for others all with a smile on their face. And there's no video or Mentawai guide saying, "This is how it works here."

So then what? Should the surfers who have devoted their lives to a spot and know the social norms established after decades of surfing just shut their mouths because someone's going to get their feelings hurt?

You call jerks wanting to kick someone's ass "locialism." But you're just seeing what you want to see. Localism is a lot more than that.
billy persistent
billy persistent - 7 years ago
PipeLineGt, the reason that you get to make the rules at your house is that you pay for it and maintain it. Most locals don't do community service, they just live there. They pay taxes, sure, but so do the locals and lots are federal. Also, even within the bounds of your argument is a little thing called hospitality.
PipeLineGt
PipeLineGt - 7 years ago
They do and your a idiot if you dont. Its like saying you cant make rules to your house once a guess comes over.
rtherjetyj
rtherjetyj - 10 years ago
Surfers, the insecure bossy little girls of the outdoors. Cut it out!
Justin Ledford
Justin Ledford - 10 years ago
Who r u to control the lineup locals have all the say and they can go on as much waves as they as this is there home not yours
fishmut
fishmut - 6 years ago
Justin Ledford your full of shit.
Justin Ledford
Justin Ledford - 9 years ago
Wat u jus started surfing?
Justin Ledford
Justin Ledford - 10 years ago
Who are u to control the line up the locals have the say makin all these rules is retarded
Saxon Morris
Saxon Morris - 10 years ago
fuck this, i hate when people jock people and cutt people off, this video really shows how annoying it is. If you do that at The J we will snap your fins off and slash ur tires, happened before
InfidelHussarTM
InfidelHussarTM - 8 years ago
thats cute !!! do that to the wrong guy and get yourself shot bitch and ur shit taken
Paul John Balderston
Paul John Balderston - 9 years ago
+Liam Arnold J Bay man, you should know it.
Liam Arnold
Liam Arnold - 9 years ago
Where's j
beefydeadeye
beefydeadeye - 10 years ago
"make sure you catch the wave" ... so what you are going to make someone feel bad if they mess up ? Stupid idiot
wavepark
wavepark - 10 years ago
+beefydeadeye Nope, my job is to help people catch the waves of their lives; that's literally my job description.  I feel as good as them when they score big, it's one of the greatest satisfaction of what I do.
Sieglinda Meyer
Sieglinda Meyer - 10 years ago
just got 9 staples from ejecting...... dont do it
iiFreddy11
iiFreddy11 - 10 years ago
I fucking hate getting snowballed by some fuckwit that has no idea.
Brian Rapp
Brian Rapp - 10 years ago
1975 brian rapp longboarder was captain of the Beverly high surf and football teams at 15 years old at state beach with Sean Murphy from waterways surf adventures
Ewald Stander
Ewald Stander - 10 years ago
Don't get in the way when paddling back? It is the surfers responsibility to dodge . He is the most maneuverable. I almost lost my life when a asshole tried to see how close he could get to me, ran into me with the nose of his board and severed my Sartorius muscle and punctured my femoral artery in my leg. I made it to the hospital just in time. You get close to me now and i will fuck you up... 
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
What the FUCK are you talking about? It's not, and NEVER has been, the riding surfer's responsibility to avoid a paddling surfer. It's always been the complete opposite. It's YOUR job to paddle towards the broken part of the wave or learn to fucking duckdive properly you kook - why were you anywhere near him?? Duckdive well out of the way and let him go over you. Unreal!!!
Ewald Stander
Ewald Stander - 9 years ago
+cole reed Are you a child?
cole reed
cole reed - 9 years ago
Haha what an idiot u try digging a kook when your in the barrel, that rules been around since the advent of common sense, I wouldn't go around bragging that injury that's embarrassing lol!!!! Learn how to duck dive
fool
Jalen DeBonis
Jalen DeBonis - 10 years ago
Id never pay to surf here... EVER! Even the most famous brake in the world (pipeline) is free...  plus its only a few miles from home :)
Abel heagney
Abel heagney - 10 years ago
Ha Ha some nobody surf camp manager rewrites the rules of surfing...and "enforces" them. Total rubbish 
Stefan Sulzbach
Stefan Sulzbach - 10 years ago
finally a surf vid with some wit words.
I am so fed up surfing with guys like say... "rompa stompa" or so.
 
Kawika DelRosario
Kawika DelRosario - 10 years ago
So you can own waves now? Classic,
Richard W
Richard W - 10 years ago
but there is more than 1 wave. two people can go on one wave if its 10 metres away
Caver461
Caver461 - 10 years ago
I am not a surfer, but I would have been under other circumstances, that was very interesting - thanks.
Nah nope
Nah nope - 7 years ago
Who tf are you man?
fuck off
neeko
neeko - 7 years ago
don't be a massive faggot austin d flynn, the guy is just complementing the up-loader
Toxic Avenger
Toxic Avenger - 7 years ago
if you aren't a surfer...shut the fuck up
harvey falconer
harvey falconer - 7 years ago
Caver461 ii
Rat Bag
Rat Bag - 10 years ago
This is the RULES of surfing PERIOD
Thomas R Prendergast
Thomas R Prendergast - 10 years ago
I started surfing in the 60s in San Diego then moved to Santa Cruz and the number one rule I always followed is NEVER drop in on another surfer. And when paddling out, avoid the break and use the channel to stay out of the way of the ride.

In the 80s and 90s rudeness in California became the rule, so I moved away.
Fly Guy
Fly Guy - 10 years ago
I rip at Mento'z brah! who needs these bullshit rulez?
roboticpoopie
roboticpoopie - 10 years ago
a video by kooks, for kooks! 
lacey
lacey - 10 years ago
brilliant.
goldpenis
goldpenis - 10 years ago
Comments here show the blind(ed by ego) and the seers (of others). Which is disabled? 
yehôshûa B
yehôshûa B - 10 years ago
There was no way that vid was 9 min.  
Joe surfer
Joe surfer - 10 years ago
Cocoa Beach pier = party wave fools
Dr Martin Robson
Dr Martin Robson - 10 years ago
Thanks heaps!
Glenn Sumpster
Glenn Sumpster - 10 years ago
I wish. I surf Winkipop in Victoria's surfcoast and the dominating rule here is who ever is the deepest has the right of way.  The number of time I've been patiently waiting for a wave then someone paddles on my inside just as a set rolls in...
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 8 years ago
This is the case EVERYWHERE!! If you want the wave, take off deeper. If you don't have the balls to do that, then paddle back to the beach.
Krushurpants
Krushurpants - 10 years ago
thanks for that valuable info.
SurfinSanDiego
SurfinSanDiego - 10 years ago
If I can't duck dive without jacking my knuckles on the reef, Maybe another spot is in order.
kris hetherington
kris hetherington - 10 years ago
where i grew up surfing on the east coast of oz if you did any of these you copped a smak in the nose . 
kris hetherington
kris hetherington - 10 years ago
HEY ARRON EAT DICK FUCKWIT CUNTS NEED TO LEARN A  AND A SMAK IN THE HEAD LEARNS CUNTS REAL QUICK.
Aaron Farrell
Aaron Farrell - 10 years ago
+kris hetherington you douche
kris hetherington
kris hetherington - 10 years ago
wise words bro too cool . peace
vvei
vvei - 10 years ago
of course you know me, you are me and i am you. like the wave, it cease to exist without the wind or water. we are one and we are all. we are one and the same.

i feel you mate, anger is a natural emotion, i too get frustrated dealing with blatant ignorance. but if you control your emotions instead of letting them control you, then, you become the master! be mindful of your mind, be thoughtful of your thoughts and let your actions be according.  

respect is everything but let them learn through peace, its better than to learn through violence. resist anger towards your brothers and sisters out on the wave, they need your wisdom and teachings. when ignorance is removed by understanding then they will act accordingly, however if they persist to be jerks, then theres nothing you can do, it is a problem within themselves that they must fix on their own. in this case there is no need to be upset, just wish them well and eventual peace. namaste brotha, be one with the ocean kris san!
kris hetherington
kris hetherington - 10 years ago
yeah i have dude, mate im chilled ,i dont like anger  sometimes its hard not to get pissed off , especially at blatant ignorance . and yazmut your words intrigue me as to who you are and if i know you? anyways im frothing for a wave an havnt had one in 18 months due to work and family i carnt wait to move back to the ocean .
vvei
vvei - 10 years ago
lol kirs mate take a chill pill mate hang loose, of course there needs to be order but no need to get angry, free yourself from anger mate! no need for panel beating, come on. talk to the individual, educate the indivdual. share your love kirs, there's mighty beauty within you son.
kris hetherington
kris hetherington - 10 years ago
ive never hit anyone persay but i have come very close a few times . look some people have got a head that needs regular panel beating ,well u may have surfed a very popular break right? youve seen the signs about who has right of way on the inside right? and yet people still do the wrong thing !!! thats how boards get dingged and people get hurt right? hence the reason for some places that have big crowds need the lineup to be regulated . i dont care if your a bloke or a chick your approach sounded like a chick to me . im not condoning violence and its a pleasure to surf in a lineup that has order .free my mind? its pretty bloody free i can tell you that much.
vvei
vvei - 10 years ago
i hear what you're saying with the kitchen, and the heat, and with prevention and what not mate, its all well and fine, but why, why! why do you have to smack people in the nose? is violence nessassary??

p.s. been surfing all my life mate all over the world. and why does it matter if i'm a man or a woman, release yourself from labels mate, free your mind!
kris hetherington
kris hetherington - 10 years ago
p.s you are a woman right? and you havnt been surfing to long have you?
kris hetherington
kris hetherington - 10 years ago
what??? when you cook something on the stove you know its hot right ? but you are not truely aware to the heat untill you burn yourself yes? same goes . and prevention is the best cure right? well the lineup can be a very dangerous place when unregulated  look at pipeline . order is a must ! 
vvei
vvei - 10 years ago
but do you really have to smack people in the nose? whatever happen to just talking and coming to an understanding?!
kris hetherington
kris hetherington - 10 years ago
its called respect !!!!!and you soon learned ,but it keeps order which generally makes for a safer lineup .otherwise youve got kooks getting in the road causing kaos.
vvei
vvei - 10 years ago
wow such violent people over there where you're from! jeez!
Robdog
Robdog - 10 years ago
Just like the old days!! what surfing was & should be about. Cheers :)
Kelly Smith
Kelly Smith - 8 years ago
Robdog want to talk about respect, surf etiquette and the like. In the late 60' s Corky Carrol was out just north of Crystal pier PB IN SAN DIEGO. Everyone paddled in...... so we could watch.
Nicholas Guionnet
Nicholas Guionnet - 10 years ago
I shoot kangaroos 
Xavier Molina
Xavier Molina - 10 years ago
Great video! Not just for surfing the mentawais, which I've never been to, but a great video for general surfing etiquette as well as great information in there for surfing Reef breaks!!!
Octavio Salles
Octavio Salles - 10 years ago
Your enthusiasm is contagious... yaawwww
Andy Mills
Andy Mills - 10 years ago
I support full contact surfing.
Glenn Symons
Glenn Symons - 10 years ago
I´ve been surfing for 45 years. I give this advice an double A+! I wish the first rule of wait your turn was universal. I've seen so many idiots just go too deep to ever make it so they can say "My wave"
Brian Rigg
Brian Rigg - 10 years ago
Lu Snead
Lu Snead - 10 years ago
Conan Rei,  Christie Carter OWNS the wave park.  Built it up on his own, yeah you can say he has the right to say all this.  Jerk
john doe
john doe - 10 years ago
How many f'en rulez??? jeesh...GO AWAY!
Caver461
Caver461 - 10 years ago
Agreed
parrrtypants
parrrtypants - 10 years ago
at this point, we just need to agree to disagree. i think people are getting far too sensitive.
Caver461
Caver461 - 10 years ago
Hey, there is a tendency on impersonal communications such as this for people to be disrespectful of each other. I always follow the practice of trying to be as polite in writing as I would be to your face, so when someone calls me an idiot, or stupid, I respond back in kind, but I certainly would not have been ignorant if you hadn't started it. I always felt it was cowardly to cut loose on someone just because you can - basic principles that a reasonable person should follow in order to participate in a decent society. 
parrrtypants
parrrtypants - 10 years ago
really? thats your response? that's all? i am not trying to impress anyone with my ability to  type. sometimes i get passionate about something, and just start typing. if i were an anal, ocd suffering english teacher, i might be stressed out on spellcheck. but, alas, i am none of these things.
dont be mad because someone made you realize how silly your comment was. we are all just people. we all have opinons. we are free to express these opinions. letting someone elses jokes about opinions bother you is not beneficial to a happy existance. instead, try joking back. this is a much healthier way to live your life. haha.
Caver461
Caver461 - 10 years ago
Get your spelling and punctuation right before you start throwing out insults about other people's mental capabilities.
parrrtypants
parrrtypants - 10 years ago
its only one f'en rul. he just explains it, so that even an idiot can understand. evidently, you fall just short of this eschellon of intelligence...
Caver461
Caver461 - 10 years ago
It would appear that these are reasonable practices for considerate people
kane pickard
kane pickard - 10 years ago
My dads a kook 6:00
Gabe Cohn
Gabe Cohn - 10 years ago
you make surfing sound worse then homework. 
Shari Smith Dunaif
Shari Smith Dunaif - 7 years ago
Gabe Cohn homework? I guess you really are 14 years ago old.
toreropalido
toreropalido - 10 years ago
What do you mean bear hug your board? When exactly would you do that? When you are about to take a wave on the head? Don't dive, just hug your board and hope for the best? Or turn and face land, hug, and hope for the best?
AH Gaming
AH Gaming - 6 years ago
Thats why I bodyboard
Matt Clarke
Matt Clarke - 10 years ago
+wavepark I can attest to this.  Cracked my head open at Hazard Canyon, SLO...exactly this way.
wavepark
wavepark - 10 years ago
toreropalido and Joseph.  What I mean is as you are going down on your duck dive to hold the board very tight to your chest (bear hug).  What happens sometimes is the wave is more powerful than the surfer is expecting, and turbulence under water can make the board hit the surfers head.  The less space between the board and the surfer underwater, the less distance the board has to move and cause injury.
Joseph Bellamy
Joseph Bellamy - 10 years ago
I was wondering this as well. But he must mean dive down first, you'd have to. Rolling would be best but then would bounce against the reef?
Williamniedz
Williamniedz - 10 years ago
These comments are starting to make me not want to get out there...I thought surfers were supposed to be chill burn outs...not angry jersey shore douche bags...
Pieter Nel
Pieter Nel - 10 years ago
A lot of things can be said about the act of surfing. At the end of the day it remains a thinking man’s activity; it is not for the ignorant. Nothing can trump the importance of being informed, educated and respectful in the water. You can have all the skill in the world, but without respect and knowledge drowning becomes a part of your reality. If you don’t end up drowning then you survive to be known by others (unbeknownst to yourself) as an asshole. If no one teaches you the rules, you end up staying an assbag for the rest of your life. So, if you don’t realize (whilst calling others kooks) that the inside rule accounts for mechanical Points and Reefs whilst the Turn system applies for shifting beach breaks then you are a kook. Don’t prove to everyone that you are an ignorant turd, thus kook.
Bigbore400cc
Bigbore400cc - 10 years ago
my pet hate - on beach breaks back home where the peaks are all over the place, not much order in the water, when you catch the wave from 5-10 metres further out the back than the other guy, and you're standing up first, and this guy on the  inside paddles, stands up and tries to claim it's his wave. Bull shit.  If you catch the wave and stand up first before they even paddle for the wave, it's yours. Just cos they're on the  inside doesn't mean it's theirs. I call it dropping in from the inside.
 And what about when everyone's waiting for a set, a small  wave comes along that nobody wants, just because you start paddling for it and show some interest in it, the fuckwit sitting right on your arse starts paddling too. If you hadn't have paddled for it neither would he.
fuzzyfino6
fuzzyfino6 - 10 years ago
STFU kook
Stepkov K
Stepkov K - 10 years ago
Go to the north shore of Oahu and paddle out in any of the great breaks there.  You will learn  real quick what to do and not what to do.  If you want respect you better show some respect.That goes for any break 
Gregory Fazekas
Gregory Fazekas - 10 years ago
I get the not dropping in part and some of the safety tips...but it doesn't matter where in the lineup you are? If someone is inside of you, its their wave. Don't like it? Then paddle inside of the person. Rest of the tips are on point though
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conan rei
conan rei - 10 years ago
No brainer stuff matey. Sounds like you've appointed yourself as the Mentawi surf police. I hate pigs
Dean Bean
Dean Bean - 10 years ago
This is crap I mean if you are a decent surfer you will know these things and if u don't then don't go out there plan and simple
David Mobbs
David Mobbs - 10 years ago
Kook: is someone who can't see that it is whoever has been waiting longest, has the next wave.
Kook: is someone who paddles deep (straight past competent surfer) and is to deep to make wave blowing it for both kook and surfer.
Give me room, please! When it is my turn, i don't care where you are, it is my turn.
This vid is ok because so many people still don't get it.
mikthe2004
mikthe2004 - 10 years ago
I agree, but unfortunately a lot of surfers are greedy pricks who want to get every wave. These days if the surf is half decent most places are crowded, and if you don't share a bit - and give learners a bit of a break - then it's a pretty nasty vibe out there.  Surfing should be mainly about relaxing and enjoying the waves, but a lot of guys surf like they are trying to win the "Triple Crown" each time.  I try to give those kind of guys some gentle advice, and if that doesn't work then I sit next to them and make sure they don't get another wave. It's pretty hard to catch a wave if someones dragging on your leg rope...............hahhahahah
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
Fucking Americans thinking they are the fucking surf police and making vids to correct the rest of the surfing community.What about the rule who ever is on the inside gets to go ..works every where around the world and all surfers know it ..Come to Burleigh Australia see what the locals think of your rule .BYO ambulance
Coming there to shred those waves and punch any fuck who tells me they been tea bagging the longest.
Og fisher Nz
Og fisher Nz - 7 years ago
parrrtypants suck a cock
Og fisher Nz
Og fisher Nz - 7 years ago
parrrtypants stop talking about yourself fuckwit. How's it being a middle aged man with an ugly ass wife who lets you surf once a month at huntington
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 7 years ago
Guessing the D stands for Dickhead hahaha.
FYI its Aussie you retard!
Kaptain Kid
Kaptain Kid - 7 years ago
OOOOOOOOOh, a pissed off Ausi . . . . . Fuck off mate.
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 7 years ago
Lmao ! Oh that cut deep haha
John
John - 7 years ago
Your the bully who pushed in on the slippery-dip at prep school...punk
Flips Tanah
Flips Tanah - 7 years ago
Rompa Stompa I sometimes surf Burleigh and I completely agree
Rastafish Swimbait666
Rastafish Swimbait666 - 8 years ago
Rompa Stompa jealous much?
Kelly Smith
Kelly Smith - 8 years ago
Rompa Stompa hey hey I may agree but keep your fucking americans comment to yourself. what, are you French,?!?!
Cam Read
Cam Read - 9 years ago
+Rompa Stompa for his own gain? To help people share crowded and hollow waves and yes so kooks don't get crunched. but mainly to help them get barrelled and catch sick waves!!! Don't go there - just as I wont be - and get over it!!!!
Surf ettiquette is not just who is inside but also that you don't paddle inside someone.
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+akel624 I pressed translate but nothing happened?
Get off the medication champ .I don't have a little brother?Think you meant my son but lets face it I doubt you even speak English  so I do not expect you to understand it.

Are you some kind of try hard youtube gangster?Thugen in da comment section haha
akel624
akel624 - 10 years ago
+Rompa Stompa bookin mah flight now, but i ain comin to woop yo ass, im coming to play som video games witchu and yo little brother you talkin bout. den we can talk about knun chuks and bruce lee over some pizza bites baby
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+akel624 "Dude" wtf are you a ninja turtle from the 90's?
If I like Ferrari's to fucking bad sunshine and if my kid and I play C.O.D together well then you can go fuck yourself again tough guy.You didn't mention the body building  or the martial arts I notice haha or even the veganism haha.

So doesn't look like I am shutting up  so wtf are you going to do about it?
Nothing at all bitch remember that! 
Any time you want to do something my address is right there 2 comments up haha weak ass fuckers!
akel624
akel624 - 10 years ago
+Rompa Stompa the dude with a ferrari in his avatar and call of duty videos all up in his profile needa shuddap update your myspace status 
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+Proven Overland Where are you big dog I am still waiting for you ?
Guessing mummy will not let you out past 7pm. haha bitch!
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+Proven Overland Sure kid no problem.
Unit 8076 ,8 the esplanade ,soul building. surfers paradise.Gold coast Australia. 
Just come knock on my door or buzz .Or message me here I will get it and come down and cripple you in about 30 secs.
I am here weekdays after 7pm . 
You will never turn up you gutless fuck who are you trying to fool?
But fuck I hope you do .
Proven Overland Magazine
Proven Overland Magazine - 10 years ago
Give me the info
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+Proven Overland Any time you would like to test that theory look me up.haha.
Now run off back to mum kid.
Proven Overland Magazine
Proven Overland Magazine - 10 years ago
+Rompa Stompa Little man, big ego. All bark and no bite. Kook.
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+Proven Overland Yawn! Go get a life.
Proven Overland Magazine
Proven Overland Magazine - 10 years ago
+Rompa Stompa The little dog barks the loudest.
Jayna McCarvill
Jayna McCarvill - 10 years ago
OMG thank you. Even though I'm from America, I totally get where you're coming from, that's always been the rule. I doubt every time this ignorant person goes surfing, people "take turns" like are we in elementary school? Didn't think so stfu
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+Proven Overland Fuck you dickhead!
Anywhere any time fuckhead and its I'm you little loser!
You are illiterate,go find some american cock to suck!  
Proven Overland Magazine
Proven Overland Magazine - 10 years ago
+Rompa Stompa I';m from AUSTRALIA, and I am ashamed that you are from the same country as me. You are a KOOK. 
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
Just pillow biters ay! fucking faggot!
Thomas Barker
Thomas Barker - 10 years ago
sorry don't do pillow fights
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+Thomas Barker Come do it here tough guy i'll knock your teeth out personally !

" use you surf atlas"what the fuck is that meant to mean you fucking moron learn how to write before posting!
Thomas Barker
Thomas Barker - 10 years ago
Burleigh a heavy local scene? haha fucking kook... use your surf atlas and come drop in at North Narrabeen you bogan cum rag.
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+tortugabob Go fuck yourself stalker!
After reading the first sentence you bored the shit out of me with your meaningless dribble.
Firstly you haven't even made a point other than I am aggressive haha big deal so what!
Its fucking pencil neck cocksmokers like you that should stay the fuck out of the water and learn to surf in the shallows and just shut the fuck up because no one gives a fuck what you say!You have not even surfed there so what the fuck are you on about?
Your a disgrace to all surfers and all men!
What there doing is even worse but your head is to far up your ass to see what is going on.

"My posts are for intelligent surfers."
Bahahahahahahah ahahahhaa 
oh cant breathe bahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahaha ohshit help hahahahahhaaha lmao @ u hahhahahahahpmsl @ u hahhahahahahah
You should have been a comedian your talents are wasted here. Thanks for the laugh
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+tortugabob Not going to bother to read all that I got the gist of it from the first sentence.
Let me tell you something kid I've surfed these islands more times than you have wanked off under the covers son and this sort of shit is not welcome in burleigh or there.Only fuckwits that wish to make bigger profit margins try to enforce it .The fact is it doesn't work that is how I know your not a real surfer!
I did end up reading the last paragraph and you did make me laugh but, nice one pmsl@ you!

The intent of this vid is to make more money and only to make more money!
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+parrrtypants Great speech (clap clap clap)
I dont like any one who does this period!
I do not stand alone as you may assume on this.
By your brainless logic we may as well just start charging to walk on roads.
Clearly you don't even understand what I am saying lmao@ u and your abusing me and arguing what point exactly ? pmsl

Let me spell it out again kid if you are telling me what I can and cant do in the water , so you can make a greater profit then go fuck yourself and expect swift consequences!
Then if you go make a youtube video about it, then expect me to have my say on it.

Fuck you dickheads trying to silence me with moronic stupidity its not going to happen you might as well organize some kind of coalition, that has the focus of raising funds to try and stop me.haha.

I'll get angry at who ever I want to !
I'll surf how I want to !
I will say what I want to!
parrrtypants
parrrtypants - 10 years ago
um, you know americans arent the only ones doing it right? there just happens to be more surfers per capita in america, australia, and brasil, than most places in the world. so these three are out mobbing. just like anyone else. its senseless, to get so agro about it. its going to happen sooner or later, and complaining about it, and talking like a brainless child, isnt going to do anything. if you arent going to organize some kind of coalition, that has the focus of raising funds to help prevent this, and make most of these places habitat reserves, or whatever. if you arent doing something to change it, quit getting so agro at people about it. people who arent even directly involved with your misconseption of what is really happening in the world.
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+tortugabob What is it about arrogant fuckwit Americans trying to exploit every break in the world they can get there grubby hands on ?
I've seen it time and again.I've learned to punch some fucking sense into them!
Karma already got to them so its all good and if they side step Karma you fuckers you will run straight into me! 
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+Weazl Ok stalker well if that was true you fucking retard then I wouldn't have 6 thumbs up now would I genius.
What ever you do in life do not become a detective because with flawed moronic logic like that the criminals will be laughing at you even harder than I am .
Ultimately you can not count! there has been 6 people comment against me and 6 gave me a thumbs up soooooo I will let you do the math there haha fool!

Any one that trys to make money in this kind of way disgusts me period !
And should understand if they try to place these idiotic rules on me in the water I will fucking drown them faster than being handcuffed to a submarine! Is that easy enough to interpret?
Fuck me did the circus roll into town ?
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+parrrtypants if you paddled out, you would be sent in, or get your ass severly kicked. seriously. what, you surf for a year or two,and you are the authority now? haha. kook.

That is what YOU wrote ,now either I cant fucken read or you are full of shit!
And the fact remains I don't give a fuck if it was said in a literal sense or not! Let me give you some advice simpleton haha if you want what you say to come across differently to what it reads THEN WRITE IT HOW IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN ! You can not spell for for shit its "severely" simpleton !

I smile every time I read your comments champ I am lmfao now at you!

I doubt you have ever surfed at all kid from what I can tell you seem to think it is ok to place rules on others .Let me guess your American and would love to charge me to surf but you just can't figured out how to do it.Your just a money hungry grub that has totally missed the point of surfing and you will never make any serious coin and never be a good surfer so just give up now and fuck off!
Weazl
Weazl - 10 years ago
I call bullshit rompa stompa, after checking out your liked videos I have decided you a not a surfer nor an engineer, but rather a tragic web-"surfing" couch potato. No one else agrees with your dumb logic or aggressive manner that you address people with, you might be able to "cripple people" but ultimately you are the minority and frankly fucking delusional, so take your big bicep and go shove it right up that fat ass of yours. People might be able to interpret you a little bit better if you weren't so quick to threaten them with violence. Delusional.
parrrtypants
parrrtypants - 10 years ago
read all my comments, simpleton. i said already that i wasnt saying you probably surfed for a couple years in a litteral sense. i said the way you talk, makes it sound that way. and by that, i meant you are a total idiot. stop the negativity. go do something worth while, and smile for a minute. it might change your life.
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+parrrtypants How fucking else was I meant to take that comment YOU clown?I took it how it was written plain and simple kid!
I am not a fucking mind reader and would bet I have a higher I.Q than you son.
Its not that I don't understand anything its that I understand perfectly what others are trying to do .You and the moronic fucks that are trying to finagle us all will not fool me,SORRY !
Take your idiotic surfing rules and shove them up your ass fuckwit!
I travel the globe as a engineer in a very specialised field teaching others and get paid very well to do this.
I am also a vegan and do not do drugs .
So all your assuming is way off isn't it kid!
I may be a surfer leery of con men but the fact is in this case I am correct .
NOW FUCK OFF !!
 
parrrtypants
parrrtypants - 10 years ago
yes, and you took it very litterally. because you have the intelligence of a fruit fly. you either need to take the meds your doctor prescribed, or stop taking the drugs your friends suggest. you dont understand anything, due to your negative mindset. what an idiot.
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+parrrtypants Go fuck your self clown!
Here is what you said copy and pasted
 "  what, you surf for a year or two,and you are the authority now? "
If thats what you meant then SAY it or what am I meant to be a fucking mind reader?
Do the world a favour and shut the fuck up!
You are truly a piss weak little faggot if I could get me hands on you id cripple in in secs!
parrrtypants
parrrtypants - 10 years ago
dude, calm down. i wasnt saying you actually only surfed for a couple years. im just saying, that the way you talk, makes it seem that way. jeez. you are truly dense.
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
Fuck off idiot! You assume I have only surfed a few years and straight up couldn't be more wrong cock sucker!
The fact you still use the word kook makes me lmao @ u!!!!
parrrtypants
parrrtypants - 10 years ago
i wasnt assuming. i was saying, the way you talk makes it sound like you are a kook. that is all.
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+parrrtypants You shouldn't assume dickhead because then you will look even more moronic tryhard!
"I clearly know nothing about haha"
Been surfing from the age of about 10 and surfed more places than you have son !
I have over 20 years surfing experience all over the world and was sponsored kid so what now? fool!
Id cripple a fuck like you in secs bitch.
try and pull that money making BS when I am out there and I will cripple you!
parrrtypants
parrrtypants - 10 years ago
Jalen DeBonis i said that, because Rompa Stompa was saying americans want to dictate the rules of the surf world. and Rompa Stompa, you shouldnt just go spouting off about things you clearly know nothing about. you said the guy on the inside goes when a set comes in. which is as far from the opposite of reality as you can get. you obviously have a lot of hate in you, and a propensity for disrespect. i would feel sorry for a guy like you paddling out, ANYWHERE. because, with that attitude, (and it really doesnt matter where on the planet) if you paddled out, you would be sent in, or get your ass severly kicked. seriously. what, you surf for a year or two,and you are the authority now? haha. kook.
Jalen DeBonis
Jalen DeBonis - 10 years ago
+parrrtypants hes not haha Americans don't say holiday... 
parrrtypants
parrrtypants - 10 years ago
the guy talking on this video, doesnt even sound like he is american. haha
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+Buc Nasty Yeah no shit sherlock the Polynesia's surfed (bangs head on table)
What I am saying champ is Aboriginals did it as well and they are the oldest culture in the world genius.So to say Americans invented surfing is a major stretch in my book and not a claim you can prove.Love how you think if its not documented in American culture then it could of never of happened haha.Typical fucking american thinking the world revolves around you.Tribes of Aboriginals have been doing the same thing for thousands of years not just the last hundred pmsl.
Yes I respect the traditional locals not fuckwit american and kiwi's money making grubs.
GET IT YET CHAMP?There not the locals!
That is not the rule in the islands its just these tools trying to make it the rule to make more coin.

Whats next will we need a ticket with a number like at the deli counter to give to some one before we start to paddle?
dave lehi
dave lehi - 10 years ago
+Rompa Stompa  all i said was don't group everyone together, haole.   need to calm down brah. lot of hatred toward brother surfers.  not good.  
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+Buc Nasty Oh here we go again RESPECT US WE INVENTED SURFING!
get fucked you clown you didnt invent shit Aboriginals did it way before the Hawaiians anyway .
Ive never been anywhere but rivers where this isnt the rule and I can name more places than that but I know how big my dick is so I wont bother.
Just get the fucking message dont try and change what isnt broken for your money grubbing ways .
In the islands its the inside goes and these clowns know the kooks that are paying inflated prices will come back if they get shit loads of waves in turn with there mates .This video is about money mate and nothing more!
Surfing is about being free but you fuckers cant have that can you ,you need to tell everyone what to do and how to do it and then respect us or else WELL FUCK YOU IT ISNT HAPPENING!
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+dave lehi Nah fuck you idiots trying to teach every one like your the shit .
Go fuck yourselves !
Inside goes thats how it is, got a problem with it and drop in Ill smack the fuck out of you on shore or in the water at Pipe or Indo or any fucking place you fucking clowns.
dave lehi
dave lehi - 10 years ago
hawaiians are americans too.  don't bad mouth us brah. come pipeline then you learn some respect bumbai, young keiki
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+Brett Crockett Whats disgraceful is idiots like Christie trying to rewrite rules of surfing for there own profit and gain.
Its a self righteous blow to the liver of surfing from a clown that makes any real surfer sick.

Fuck wave park its over priced massively and run by clowns that try and organize every step you take and even what wave you can ride .

I feel sorry for any one who is stupid enough to fall for this shit .Fuck wavepark there are heaps better options!
 
Brett Crockett
Brett Crockett - 10 years ago
rompa - disgraceful - Christie is a Kiwi... guess you wont be staying at wavepark, thank goodness.
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
Simple etiquette is who ever is on the inside goes!!!pretty simple to the rest of the world!!
You must be another idiotic american!
goldpenis
goldpenis - 10 years ago
Simple etiquette is too complex a notion for the Neanderthal "Rompa Stompa" 
Rompa Stompa
Rompa Stompa - 10 years ago
+jiblet65 Tea bagging means sitting out the back bobbing up and down not catching waves. like a tea bag...get it?
jiblet65
jiblet65 - 10 years ago
Rompa Stompa is apparently a big fan of the Arabian eye goggles.
TheKnobbie
TheKnobbie - 10 years ago
Doos
scott de vries
scott de vries - 10 years ago
Awesome tip ideas.
scott de vries
scott de vries - 10 years ago
Let's get real in So Ca this would never happen.  But some island in the So Pacific can make the rules we would obey.  Smoking alert for the next trip to Tavarua, fiji
ilsurfing1998
ilsurfing1998 - 10 years ago
First of all, he doesnt forbid you anything, hes trying to save you injuries. Second, i dont see how diving off your board and hitting your head on the reef is fun?? I was surfing in Zarautz (spain) a few weeks ago and believe me, people dropping in, making snowballs and being in front of you while you paddle in on a wave doesnt make surfing more fun..
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Alex Magee
Alex Magee - 11 years ago
on shallow reef break, beginners will generally not have a very good time....
Alex Magee
Alex Magee - 11 years ago
closest to the peak gets the wave... Just make sure you are sitting deeper than him...
leo rutherford
leo rutherford - 11 years ago
Well, as I am still pretty green with surfing and etiquette, I try to avoid the line up as much as I can. But what do you say to someone who paddles out past you, so your constantly moving to avoid being "under" him and gives you shit for "for being in the way" when he drops 40' + away? Happened twice, uhggg.. I try and respect distance as much as i can, partially why i dont surf the line up.. Any feedback?
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VemCaValet
VemCaValet - 11 years ago
lol at this WavePerk doesn't allow you to have fun
TheOzzyNut
TheOzzyNut - 11 years ago
I like the Aussie Etiquette, Whoever is deepest owns the wave & if some idiot drops in knuckle the fker
Trevor Lucas
Trevor Lucas - 11 years ago
Armando, those are standard rules for everyones safety and benefit. We as surfers must also have a civil pecking order.
Trevor Lucas
Trevor Lucas - 11 years ago
Armando, those are standard rules for everyones safety and benefit. We as surfers must also have a civil pecking order.
clubcardpoints
clubcardpoints - 11 years ago
I do everything this guy warns me not to - not because I'm a bastard - but because I am just useless at surfing with no balance. I think the point of this video is not only to avoid injury, but to reserve the water for accomplished surfers.
Captain Greg
Captain Greg - 11 years ago
You guys rock! Excellent idea on providing etiquette :) Nicely Done!
Martin Spence
Martin Spence - 11 years ago
Love the music!!
Freek G
Freek G - 11 years ago
everybody respet full surfer knows them.... but some butt pirates think they don't apply on them...
Kirk Fleischer
Kirk Fleischer - 11 years ago
excellent. thanks
Armando Braun
Armando Braun - 11 years ago
who's this guy to make the rules out there?
Greg Blair
Greg Blair - 11 years ago
I GROW UP AT COOLY GOLDCOAST DROPING IN WAS A DIFFENT NO NO THESE DAYS IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME HERE NOW WHY IS THIS .I GET AGRO JUST WATCHING IT HAPPEN SEEMS ALL RULES HAVE GONE OUT WITH THE TIDE.PEOPLE HOW DROPIN SUCK BIG TIME.UNHAPPY SURFER.
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Gene Wagner
Gene Wagner - 11 years ago
my son was surfing today at Huntington beach ca and he hit his head on the deck and got the same head injury at 7:30
Romany1111
Romany1111 - 11 years ago
Nicely done. Thanks for producing this. Major points applicable anywhere.
Skatematey1312
Skatematey1312 - 11 years ago
This is realy sad it's an ocean not a playground there shouldn't be rules it's commen sense not to drop in on someone and to stay out of the way but the whole wait ur turn thing is just plain stupid
Tim Nelson
Tim Nelson - 11 years ago
You don't surf apparently and you are the one here watching the video and passing judgement on surfers? Obviously you are the kook.
Alejandro De Juatt
Alejandro De Juatt - 11 years ago
This is so lame.
Chris Ward
Chris Ward - 11 years ago
Well done. Sharing this around.
shamanjon
shamanjon - 11 years ago
This should be mandatory viewing by anyone who surfs. TY.
Rudi
Rudi - 11 years ago
I am a teenager in hawaii. I have been surfing the same spot for many years. I know all the uncles. If u drop in u better put your fists up.
ErgoCogita
ErgoCogita - 11 years ago
Sadly, there are more surfers than there are people with common sense and "rules" need to be implemented. Such strict rules takes some of the fun out of surfing. That being said, I am a "regulator" in the water and I make sure anyone endangering other people after being warned once will no longer be having a good time.
theunraveler
theunraveler - 11 years ago
How bout just putting up a sign with the rules like at Manly Beach in Australia?
Akira Cornell
Akira Cornell - 11 years ago
hey all you haters, heavy surf is a real threat on a reef. even the best can die. mark foo, todd chesser, are two that come to my mind.
Akira Cornell
Akira Cornell - 11 years ago
i havnt surfed in years. but did my best to pay my dues long ago at some spots. I like the rules as they create etiquette. I think some complainers need to grow up and stick to scratching for waves in their own crowds. btw I hate snowballs. I get they happen but imagine not having to deal with some guy jackin up the face on you. potentially making that possibly the wave of the day. it kills what could be otherwise epic ongoing session. frankly getting stuffed is waste of wave. fffnn dechebags
JRD 360
JRD 360 - 11 years ago
wavepark stop trying to tell us what to do cunt, try informing instead
peachtree Wa
peachtree Wa - 11 years ago
A few rules in a jungle make it better for all. Getting injured ruins the fun. Thanks for the education.
adventuresinbelieving
adventuresinbelieving - 11 years ago
legit first comment, and equally legit response. sad though that waves have become such a commodity, glad im old! Aloha
Lam
Lam - 11 years ago
nice video. feel sorry for the stupid jerks that aggressively react to it. if u dun like it, just go away.
wavepark
wavepark - 11 years ago
You're welcome, we posted in the hope that it would be worth it if we could help just one person avoid injuries.
s g
s g - 11 years ago
i snowball all the time bro
s g
s g - 11 years ago
whatever... rulez schmulz... surf's up dude.
Megan Williamson
Megan Williamson - 11 years ago
I dont understand the big fuss over this video? There should be a video like this for all surf spots. Its very informative. Surfers can be cluesless and arrogant sometimes and end up injured. I think its a great video
David .Miller
David .Miller - 11 years ago
I grew up on the North Shore and its a unwritten rule don't paddle for the shoulder when someones coming down the line and just take it if your sitting on the inside. Now I live in San Diego and no one does this and it gets under my skin. Also the snowballing issue ugh... don't even get me started. Great tutorial and I agree with it 100% especially the taking your turn and if you miss a wave don't go for the next one just because you're in better position you've lost your chance and gotta wait
HAMMERHCA
HAMMERHCA - 11 years ago
KOOKS STAY OUT
Buddha Vonsurfenstein
Buddha Vonsurfenstein - 11 years ago
The world belongs to everyone. None can claim any part for long anyway, no matter how long they been. Get back to the spirit of aloha man. Sharing goes a long way. Everyone belongs everywhere. Cut em off karma cut you back.
UmpaLoempa
UmpaLoempa - 11 years ago
this 'waiting in line', does that actually work? I mean, when you're in the water with 20 guys out, ten of them Brazilians .. I'd like to see that ;)
Jeremiah Crutcher
Jeremiah Crutcher - 11 years ago
FUCK YOUR BREAK BITCH ILL SNAKE FAGGOTS LEFT AND RIGHT FAGGOT ASS BITCH
Gordan Nolander
Gordan Nolander - 11 years ago
"Wondering who your surf guide is" Hahaha- no wonder you have to lay down the law, your resort must be crammed with kooks who can't explore surf spots on their own!!
Johnny Fontenot
Johnny Fontenot - 11 years ago
Solid info.
Patrick Richardson
Patrick Richardson - 11 years ago
These guys know what they are doing. Will definitely be contacting Wave Park Mentawai for our trip in the Spring of 2014.
Brenden Kaaikala
Brenden Kaaikala - 11 years ago
In Hawaii we cut people off if they don't belong there. How about this Hawaiians first since they've been there for centuries.
Killumi Ronnie
Killumi Ronnie - 11 years ago
It's your mom.
Killumi Ronnie
Killumi Ronnie - 11 years ago
Glad you took the time to wri... zzzzzz
Killumi Ronnie
Killumi Ronnie - 11 years ago
Look forward to seeing your video about etiquette. Also, I look forward to you video about surfing too. Look, this guy is obviously taking his time to help people. I'm sure your douchebagginess is no different in the line that it is here.
aerwsrf
aerwsrf - 11 years ago
There's no localism vibe from the speaker at all....if any of you have ever been to a place where waves break consistently in the same place/direction, then you would know that waiting your turn is the proper etiquette. Good thing have you blokes can't afford to make it out here...you can leave your hb trashy attitude at your 2ft slop beach break.
Jenni G
Jenni G - 11 years ago
is that a robot talking
Brett Deinum
Brett Deinum - 11 years ago
Informative video for sure. The whole take your turn thing makes a lot of sense when you are dealing with these kinds of waves. Now all I have to do is save up $2000 and I'll be stoked..
Doctor Turdmidget
Doctor Turdmidget - 11 years ago
I can't tell if the narrator is stoned, or just boring. I have no idea what the hell he's talking about, because his droning voice puts me to sleep after about thirty seconds.
buresantino
buresantino - 11 years ago
My mother was born here, yay, does it makes me a local? nahhh, I can't even afford to come here as everything is in $..most of the resorts,operators are owned by foreigners. Then I work my ass off overseas, and to surf of course, mehhh, i don't get much waves either. FFS, i don't even wanna go to where I grew up, Bali, no more..fuck it, i feel like I'm the alien there. I EVEN HAVE TO PAY ENTRANCE FEE to go into clubs to have BINTANG. Anyway, enjoy the waves, have fun, just respect our ocean!
iandevdj
iandevdj - 11 years ago
thanks for this. this is scary but informative! everyone needs to learn to respect the ocean
redneckhippiefreak
redneckhippiefreak - 11 years ago
And there are those of us that have a Lust for life greater than the Fear of death or worse. "You can't imagine what is feels like" - to let people live and die on their own terms. Standard elitist surfer bullshit, acting like he is the only one that has ever ate a reef snack. Not a surprise. Simple, have some curtasy and Fuckin nut up and bomb that shit or paddle in. Folks like this want to bubble wrap the planet for "SAFTY" and rule the world until no one can enjoy themselves..
DESI gonzi
DESI gonzi - 11 years ago
No surf etiquette in a lot of places .. I'm for smash and bash ..especially the "haole "Most locals from hawaii ,mexico,indo people know because of our beginnings. Dam haoles ! You need a surf instruction vid on how not to get beat up ,"whack". Haole be gone Works every time back home , .. But it's usually white folk that think it there right to go first ,take waves, and not wait ..sucks..
John Hook
John Hook - 11 years ago
You guys must have giant titanium balls to surf something that powerful and shallow. I've hurt myself enough just on the Currumbin rocks.
michael williams
michael williams - 11 years ago
Some good points, although it seems you have maybe had a little to much coffee and a bit to much of yourself.
John Parker
John Parker - 11 years ago
Totally agree. Just be aware of everyone else, give and take and keep it fun and light huh?! LOL. Tavarua is nice too and not this serious at all.
S Dunaif
S Dunaif - 11 years ago
surf etiquette is suppose to be universal, but those who are freaking ouut & calling the messenger names are the very ones who need to grow up - no one cares if you can surf, you are not the center of the universe. play nice, it makes surfing safer, much more fun, and the soul surfing experience that makes surfing so beautiful. Too bad some children (of any age) are such brats.
S Dunaif
S Dunaif - 11 years ago
Surf etiquette
Albrecht
Albrecht - 11 years ago
Maybe some of the viewers don't understand what this video is, then again maybe I don't: but here is my best guess. It is my belief that this video is an etiquette video for those who have come to stay at Wave Park resorts at the Mentawai Islands. It is for surfers who are already there and need to understand what has and will keep THE MOST PEOPLE happy and safe. This guy isn't the wave Gustapo arrogantly Policing Indonesia He is trying to keep the dicks from ruining someones Up$ vacatiion
William Cox
William Cox - 11 years ago
Beautiful. A first rate tutorial on surfing etiquette and the importance of civility in civilization, no matter how far from it you think you are. Great post and I thank you for it.
milkmandan77
milkmandan77 - 11 years ago
Take your turn?! Bullshit, whoever has the better skill to drop in deepest gets the wave, everyone else is dropping in (or wishes they had more skill).
Drew Chung
Drew Chung - 11 years ago
i see wat stevodakine1 is talking about. i also get what you're talking about. to be frank, you're a bit over the top with what you're trying to point out to everyone. i saw this video...and forgot everything you mentioned. what i did get out of it was...respect the locals and be chill and wait till i get that opportunity but to lecture me on how to surf is almost comical. i've traveled a lot of places to surf and i doubt some 'kook' would travel all the way out there just to surf.
Drew Chung
Drew Chung - 11 years ago
taking turns? lol... i'm all for respect...but determining whose turn it is ...cracks me up. great waves...but screw this place...this is comedy. don't get me wrong...i get the "rules" but "endangering their lives" ..."ruin their holidays" ?? i've surfed for 30+ yrs and have never dealt with conflict...i surfed Wind n Sea for years and i've shown tons of respect and gotten respect back but there's just one too many "rules" at mentawai...this cracks me up
Quentin Valentine
Quentin Valentine - 11 years ago
This is complete bullshit your a fucking anal fairy stop telling how to surf you think any surfer is going to listen to this You kook
speedxdreems
speedxdreems - 11 years ago
dude i'll anchor my sail boat out and surf what i want! i am all for line ups but i dont need no lessons and surf guide i sail and i surf once in a while i fly home and work . but your funny get in my way and you will eat reef bitch go back to wisconsin puffter.
Graham Matthew
Graham Matthew - 11 years ago
Private waves, surf snobbery! totally against everything surfing should be about. Any surfer who cannot just accept that you miss waves, forecasts are wrong, and anything that can happen does happen, those people shouldn't surf, maybe they should take up a consistant sport like swingball. waves and the ocean are inconsistent and the idea of a private beach where you have such a structure to surfing or hog the waves is like rich boy localism!
farqtoo98
farqtoo98 - 11 years ago
Wow this guy who posted the video sounds like a complete douche. I hope you get bashed in the surf one day with an attitude like that.
futuremlbplayer10
futuremlbplayer10 - 11 years ago
Most of these tips are flat out unavoidable and cannot be helped, and last time I checked ejections are fun, and the best surfer is the one who's having the most fun. Your definitely one of those that believe the sport belongs to them, get out of here. Good on the safety tips though, valid points.
Harry Sandy
Harry Sandy - 11 years ago
harry wave park dude most of what u say is good advice.. some people are just so greedy where waves are concurned sorry to say but surfing has become way to popular. bring back the early seventies when during the week only crew out just u and ur mates..ohhhh i love reminsing
Eddy Goold
Eddy Goold - 11 years ago
im gona dedicate a whole session to making snow balls !yew
Jon Price
Jon Price - 11 years ago
Somebody get this guy a tissue = (..... He's about to menstruate through his penis
ktmbilly1
ktmbilly1 - 11 years ago
pfft its just wankers cashing in on rich bastards wanting to surf. Good for you but, its a great scam.
Billy1Mud
Billy1Mud - 11 years ago
Perhaps the main point is don't go to the mentawai islands or in fact any good surf spot if your a fucking kook...seems all pretty standard information most people should know long before they go to a place full of razor sharp reefs, large swells and steriod pumped brazilians
Billy1Mud
Billy1Mud - 11 years ago
You are a kook beau
Alex Almandoz
Alex Almandoz - 11 years ago
Fucking perfekt.
linas harman
linas harman - 11 years ago
your voice is like a wet rag
wavepark
wavepark - 11 years ago
Can you teach me the self-CPR technique chevyss16? Or maybe the self lower lumbar mattress stitch, because you must know it? Hospital is 180 kilometers away.
wavepark
wavepark - 11 years ago
Good onya Beau. We'll see you at 6 - 8 Rifles trying to make a section that somebody has snowballed you on. I'll be the one wondering who your surf guide is? I can only assume you have surfed that wave and know how fast it is?
wavepark
wavepark - 11 years ago
Yep, that's us. Wave Police. Kinda goes with World Police as in "Team America." I don't relish the job, but somebody's gotta do it, ya know? Call people out when they don't know what they are doing is flat wrong. In our experience, 99% of the people doing stupid stuff just need to be told, and they'll accept it and move on. It is only 1% that has a dickhead ego that can't accept they are wrong. From your intelligence you're not amongst them, but something tells me you've never surfed here?
wavepark
wavepark - 11 years ago
Somebody that might just save your life.
GojiraSamurai
GojiraSamurai - 11 years ago
really ........ i am speechless
ktmbilly1
ktmbilly1 - 11 years ago
who the fuck would pay for a surf guide? wtf is that
imAwqard
imAwqard - 11 years ago
Or When you get that one ass who decides to hop on every wave and cut you up.
steve steve
steve steve - 11 years ago
This is a lot of great information. However, it sounds like you have taken ownership of something that is not yours? This is typical and a local-ism type of mentality. This video is almost like a HR training video generated from our beloved Corporate America. Your thousands of miles away from where you were born and yet you still have the balls to lay down some rules on a land that is in no way shape or form yours...My only question to you is?....Are you the Wave Police?
Beau Ewan
Beau Ewan - 11 years ago
"One of my biggest pet peeves is a snowball." ARE YOU SERIOUS? This guy needs to get out of paradise and back to reality for just one session. Crowds exist. If you're a jerk, karma will get you. I understand not dropping in on someone but this guy is ridiculous when he starts criticizing "snowballs." After this video, I will never stay at a resort this guy if affiliated with.
Player 1
Player 1 - 11 years ago
you might be the only cool, relaxed, spiritual surfer in the world. Nothing but agro in most places.
VIsubby
VIsubby - 11 years ago
good look out but just fuck their face up when it happens
Anton Felix
Anton Felix - 11 years ago
Fuck off
Sean King
Sean King - 11 years ago
Watching this makes me miss snowboarding so much.
chevyss16
chevyss16 - 11 years ago
this is stuff we learn being in the ocean not in youtube and stop pretending youre a local because youre not ... surfguide? that's for rich people , your only surfguide should be yourself in contact with the ocean and the locals
Carl Jose
Carl Jose - 11 years ago
To bad there's so many idiots in good line-ups! And it's all thanks to these private surfguid-suck dick-waveparks.. Dude.. let the weak learn in the whitewater and screw the surfguide.. Respect in a line-up is something you earn by those who surf it.. And about your contribution to the Mentawai people providing jobs??? I'm sure the Mentawai people can live happily ever after without your input of "civiliced slavory" Fuck your wavepark dude.. Free the waves!!!
Ryan Greer
Ryan Greer - 11 years ago
unenjoyable
Trevor Burbidge
Trevor Burbidge - 11 years ago
ejections are cool
crsurfvideo
crsurfvideo - 11 years ago
I agree with you!!! I can sometimes appreciate observing a wave as much as when i ride one.
marcelinho Vieira
marcelinho Vieira - 11 years ago
Parabens.
Josh Eloi
Josh Eloi - 11 years ago
Surf guide? Fuck off.
Daren Martin
Daren Martin - 11 years ago
What the hell kind of video is this!!? I would laugh if one of your "surf guides" came to hit me up.
bigggfooottt
bigggfooottt - 11 years ago
well i can understand this but its a wave and if you have room go for it if not fuck out the way
American Badger
American Badger - 11 years ago
If only people would actually follow these rules...
corlord123
corlord123 - 11 years ago
guide or gaybo probs a bit of both
BFKDee
BFKDee - 11 years ago
to many rules to surf, what happened to just paddling and surfing.. fark this guy come to snapper and ill snap your board and steal your car kent.
Tony Birks
Tony Birks - 11 years ago
Oh, and some dickheads need to be told!!! keep up the good advice!!!
Tony Birks
Tony Birks - 11 years ago
Fantastic, I have always been reluctant to surf in renown places. This all makes perfect sense!!! thank you for the insight. bring it to Australia!!
spitfire4sergi
spitfire4sergi - 11 years ago
Get a real job you goddamn hippy. Sincerely, a jealous Mew Yorker
larris pie
larris pie - 11 years ago
Some very useful surfing knowledge, definitely not the same approach to cold,closeout beachbreak found in most of southern california.
Louma Botos
Louma Botos - 11 years ago
Hello, have you heard about "Reveal Travel Deal" (google it)? I have stumbled upon quite a few amazingly cheap hotels and flights. This can let you spend less on your next journey also. Just go and have a look.
byron porter
byron porter - 11 years ago
exactly
free dive
free dive - 11 years ago
this guide is full of SHIT! been there and its chill. he is ONE of MANY guides that dont want people to come there
William Moser
William Moser - 11 years ago
What's 'beyond wrong' is hot-shot foreigners deciding they'll show the kook-locals 'how its done...'
Moo01100
Moo01100 - 11 years ago
Common sense and experience. If you have neither then stay at home.
Gabriel S.
Gabriel S. - 11 years ago
Nobody owns the waves.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 11 years ago
Private surf resorts are usually in very inaccessible and/or protected areas. One of the main reasons they exist is to LIMIT development. Money has very little to do with it. Crowds stay low and stricter rules on in-water behaviour mean that it's safer - most of these places are a LONG way from a hospital. If you want to see what surf tourism does to a place, go and have a look at Kuta
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 11 years ago
Dude, I couldn't give a shit about the "spirit of surfing" - I'm not some hippy moron who doesn't realise it's not the 70s anymore. When I go surfing, I want to rip the fuck out of every wave I catch, not soul arch my way into the channel. Private surf resorts have been around for YEARS - the pros are surfing at one right now!! Try surfing any of the waves around Tavarua if you're not paying to stay on the island and see what happens. Same as G-Land.
wavepark
wavepark - 11 years ago
Nice one lookn0ver. Thanks for the morning laugh.
lookn0ver
lookn0ver - 11 years ago
next there'll be SNOWBALL COPS whirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr~ PULL IT OVER BUDDY LEMME SEE YOUR BOOTIES & YOUR LINE~UP PASS #...OH SO FLYING OFF THE LIP & OUT RIGHT HAVING F-U-N NOW YOUR IN REALLY BIG TROUBLE MAC...WHERE'S YOUR SURF GUIDE???? I'M GONNA TELL YOUR MOM~
MrCrabbit69
MrCrabbit69 - 11 years ago
funny, this man has put alot of effort into this video yet none of you are actually complimenting it. all you are doing is having worthless youtube arguments which don't really resolve anything...
Sergio Love Rod
Sergio Love Rod - 11 years ago
If everyone had your attitude there would be punch ons everywhere in the surf Chill the fuck out share the waves and don't pretend that you are better then you are....
Sacred Light
Sacred Light - 11 years ago
If the water is Salty then I'm a local and so are you! Fuck everybody else! Property is theft!!!
chris bowie
chris bowie - 11 years ago
ok so I understand that when we go for a surf, we try to show common sense and respect for each other whilst surfing, so don't get me wrong when I say. what a load of shit, if I came and surfed those waves there would be no "surf instructor" that would be telling me what to do, i don't have problems when i surf with other surfers, but to get on the internet and lay down a list of rules is crap mate not on, that's not what surfing is about
Hannible100
Hannible100 - 11 years ago
This sucks! No surfing video can be taken seriously unless it has the Beach Boys playin in the background! Suck suck suck! And one more suck for good luck! What is this surfing place called Stalag 10 surfing inc?
Pete Muldoon
Pete Muldoon - 11 years ago
Great video, I've been guilty of all those offenses and I'm lucky I didn't get hurt. I just spent 4 and a half months in Bali and a lot of people have gotten in over their heads and a lot have gotten hurt and lost their lives. Thanks for for trying to educate folks, don't worry about the haters.
lukaepeluca
lukaepeluca - 11 years ago
totaly nerd voice
Gustavo Sollitto de Andrade
Gustavo Sollitto de Andrade - 11 years ago
Bullshit
Matt B
Matt B - 11 years ago
if your life jacket comes off be sure not keep your leash tied on either. And just try to dive off to the back of the board.
RJ Hoover
RJ Hoover - 11 years ago
Thanks for making this informative video!
Will Gordon
Will Gordon - 11 years ago
Doesnt sound too inviting...
mattsonh
mattsonh - 11 years ago
Yes like you say, it' s a PRIVATE surf resort. If you cant see how ugly that is then I seel sorry for you. If your a surfer, even worse, you have strayed a long, long way from the spirit of surfing and it's roots. A PRIVATE wave! So the rich and privileged can keep the spot for themselves. That is ugly.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 11 years ago
It's a PRIVATE surf resort fella.
DK HusH
DK HusH - 11 years ago
Hahahaha booties! Good video. Hate them snowball bastards!
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 11 years ago
Just pointing out the complete idiocy of your "I'm tracking your IP address" bullshit comment fella - acting the hardman again??? Also, I'm a bit confused... One minute you're calling me gay, the next minute you're telling me to come and meet you. It's all a bit strange! I'm not sure YouTube is the right place to be cruising for gay sex mate - I'm sure there are sites for that though - just check your bookmarks, I'm sure you've got some saved in there!! Take care internet hardman!!!I
You_en_Tubao
You_en_Tubao - 11 years ago
Great tips, thanks! You've answered a lot of my questions, I'm a beginner and these question did come up, specially the etiquette ones.
BenDaijo
BenDaijo - 11 years ago
Reading the colorful comments... Thanks for the informative video. Although its really lame to see the attitudes... Comments such as " I'm from ____ and we don't follow those rules " are just retarded... Stay in jersey or california then.. You'll get humbled when you try to go to another country where you don't understand the language, keep that same attitude, just expect to get taken advantage of every step of the way...or worse...
iod1231
iod1231 - 11 years ago
im staying at gang bikebike off nakula 5 in seminyak,nomoreluke,, give me a day and time and i'll meet you there
iod1231
iod1231 - 11 years ago
nomoreluke the kook, are you the bitch and take it in the ass, or is it friendsofnone who prefers that position?? trying to talk yourself up now on a forum started by a cocksucker American fuckwit who thinks hes a mentawi legend. the only thing you are capable of logging friendofnone is a cock in your ass after a 2 foot surf
Jeff Beck
Jeff Beck - 11 years ago
My local beaches in Washington and Oregon are pretty much a free for all, especially with the in flux of Kiters and SUP's, not that I have a problem with that, it's just that so many newbies don't know or observe the protocol. When I arrive in Maui I very much appreciate that the folks there are observant of the rules... It makes everything more civilized, and enhances everyone's experience. It's called the aloha spirit... And world of surfing could certainly use some more it, Mahalo!
perrastas
perrastas - 11 years ago
Only problem is that when the waves get a bit bigger and scarier that drop in can cause some serious injuries :)
FriendsOfNone
FriendsOfNone - 11 years ago
IP logged. Try to calm down and wait for the authorities to arrive.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 11 years ago
Funniest thing I've ever read!!! What's my IP address then big man?? What country am I even in right now?? That's right, you have NO fucking idea. Even if you could "track" his IP, unless he's set up a static IP, which is extremely unlikely, the closest you'd ever get to finding him would be tracing it to hub, serving tens of thousands of people. Even with a static IP, you'd only be able to track to an exchange. You really are a complete imbecile!!! Give it up, I'm pretty sure you got shut down.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 11 years ago
He's not Indonesian mate - he lives in Perth. Working a job in some shitty casino bar.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 11 years ago
Which part of "I lived there for 6 years" is confusing for you? I don't stay in losmen or hotels fella - I had a house at Canggu for 4 years and I actually have these things called "friends" who are pretty fucking awesome at putting me up whenever I go back now. You might have even seen some of them on your amazing "internet mobile phone" because a couple of them know how to surf pretty well. It's ok mate, we all love an internet hardman. Like I said, there's NOTHING scarier!!!
MaestroMcFresh
MaestroMcFresh - 11 years ago
The guy's voice in the video strikes me as haughty
iod1231
iod1231 - 11 years ago
friendsofnone, says it all really, im just tracking your ip address now, see if your mouth is still running when I turn up at your door, go on a diet fat cunt and take some surf lessons, you are an embaressment
FriendsOfNone
FriendsOfNone - 11 years ago
pretty sure this iod guy is either indonesian or retarded, but im having a hard time deciding which.
jt lu
jt lu - 11 years ago
Thanks. Always wanted to know some of these tips. Never knew how to get out the way. =)
mattsonh
mattsonh - 11 years ago
Speaking like he owns the wave. This is beyond wrong. Speak to your "Surf Guide"? Talking like this is surf school for rich wankers that need all the protection they can ay for. I am sorry, there is just something in the attitude of this that just does not sit right.
iod1231
iod1231 - 11 years ago
poppies 2 hahaha, having trouble making ends meet are we nomoreluke the kook? and internet café hahaha, hahaha, aahh no kook, I have an I phone and pay more that 10 bucks a night, give me your contact details and I will come pick you up and show you, you do know phones are mobile now hey? hahahaha, gotto love the travelling kooks
wavepark
wavepark - 11 years ago
That might be the most awesome reply that this video has seen in the last 375,000 views. Well done nomoreluke.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 11 years ago
I've done 14 trips to Indo, including living there for 6 years, teaching English to foreign students in Jakarta (2 years) and Denpasar (almost 4 years). Does that make a difference?? All I was commenting on was the fact that all you seem to do is troll video posts telling people to "learn to surf". If you're in Indo right now, then what the FUCK are you doing sitting on Poppies 2 in an internet cafe, replying to my posts?? I think you need to reassess your priorities you complete kook.
wavepark
wavepark - 11 years ago
Nope, not local. Never claimed that I was. I would imagine the locals are pretty stoked to have jobs where there would otherwise be none, and the government happy to earn taxes from my company for their coffers? How much do you contribute above and beyond your selfish pleasures in Indonesia? You think buying a nasi goreng and a bintang for yourself means you contribute something to this country?
Johnny Twothumb
Johnny Twothumb - 11 years ago
I thought surfers were meant to be chilled out and cool? They somehow turn into selfish, rude pricks when in the water. Always amazes me how there could be a hundred people bobbing around and not one person will say a word to another. I just started surfing and its awesome when me and a friend catch the same wave. We laugh and have fun, not bitch and moan how we got cut off. Or how someone didnt obey the "rules and protocol"
dudleygarramone
dudleygarramone - 11 years ago
From the sounds of it your not from the Mentawais either yet your throwing protocol out like you own the place. How do the locals feel about you charging coin to tourists to surf their waves.Lame Kook
iod1231
iod1231 - 11 years ago
im in indo now nomoreluke, if you come over tell me where you are staying and I will come pay you a visit tough guy
Andre Bernardes
Andre Bernardes - 11 years ago
/watch?v=c68-FdWLS24
iod1231
iod1231 - 11 years ago
hahaha, another hero, let me guess, you have done 1 ten day trip to bali and progressed past kuta beachbreaks, well done boy, you also should make a video telling people how to surf indo, hahaha, all you need to do now nomoreluke is got off your sponge and start riding surfboards, knob
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 11 years ago
You don't paddle for someone else's wave because you make the lip crumble - not too much of a problem in a beachie but if you're trying to make a section in the barrel, it fucks you up. It's also considered interference in surfing competitions.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 11 years ago
Dude, he's not talking about some shitty beach break with medical care 2 minutes down the road. He's talking about surfing over reefs so shallow that your fins scrape on them sometimes as you paddle for a wave and so sharp that they are like razors. These rules don't apply to places with massive crowds and shifting peaks.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 11 years ago
Go back to Burswood fella. How do you know how he surfs?? Just cheacked your profile and previous comments and it seems that all you do on here is tell people to "learn to surf". You've gotta love an internet hardman - there's nothing scarier!! Hahahahaha.
nomoreluke
nomoreluke - 11 years ago
No, not at all mate. The only problem with some of the fin systems is that, when you sand them down, you take off the protective coating on them. Carbon fibre fins, for example, have a sort of laquer on them, meaning that sanding them down is a bit of a no no. As for noses, there used to be nose guards on the market but I haven't seen them for a while!
iod1231
iod1231 - 11 years ago
why don't you do us a favour kook and fuck off back to your own country fuckin hero
iod1231
iod1231 - 11 years ago
big fuckin hero now you have job in indo, typical American cockhead, many people here before you fuckhead, you cant even surf any good, you are a kook, no wonder the world hates americans, fuck off loser, if I run into you in indo, trust me you wont be getting any waves
paul charles Vignon
paul charles Vignon - 11 years ago
thx for try help us but we can be prudent
Benjamin Dabell
Benjamin Dabell - 11 years ago
remain completely still and float over the lip with no sudden movements or do a late duck dive into the face backwards or sideways. but half the time it's unavoidable pushing the lip over or you'll get sucked over the falls. in the instance of a regular forming break like on a reef with a small take-off point you shouldn't be waiting around for scraps on the shoulder anyway.
1BigRocket
1BigRocket - 11 years ago
visitors to this video and to the Mentawais should keep in mind that these rules are appropriate in a remote place where the waves break with machine like precision and a relatively tame crowd. In theory it would be nice but these rules won't always translate to crowded beach breaks with shifty peaks scattered about more populated areas like South Beach, Miami or Sebastian Inlet. You can show etiquette to others and hope they abide equally but expect your wave count to be low.
Mike Hunt
Mike Hunt - 11 years ago
fuck off
Mike Remvidas
Mike Remvidas - 11 years ago
YEAH RIGHT !!! Try these RULES in my LINE~UP !!!!! OCEAN-CITY, N.J... see what happens to your ass !!!!!
Powersiseos Jurado
Powersiseos Jurado - 11 years ago
ok how do you avoid to créate a snowball???
saddamdontsurf
saddamdontsurf - 11 years ago
Nice , Now when can I go ?
Lucas Sigwalt
Lucas Sigwalt - 11 years ago
6:55 Ouch!!!
Mike McKenzie
Mike McKenzie - 11 years ago
1. Respect the ocean.
Kombi Life
Kombi Life - 11 years ago
If only everyone would follow these lineup rules! Surfing crowded breaks would be so much more enjoyable.
CptjackSparrow80
CptjackSparrow80 - 11 years ago
....this is why I surf alone or with 2 oe 3 dudes that I don't have to worry about....
muddy waters
muddy waters - 11 years ago
you guys wouldn't happen to hire staff nurses would you?
Andrew Akers
Andrew Akers - 11 years ago
anyone else on a random youtube spree?
Marc Phillips
Marc Phillips - 11 years ago
Sign me up !!
gangsterboogie
gangsterboogie - 11 years ago
I understand, I just think a little tough love is warranted at times...nothing like a good open palm, but I understand your concern.....its all about manners
Harry Gascoigne
Harry Gascoigne - 11 years ago
7:33 HOLY SHIT
Mmmyess
Mmmyess - 11 years ago
Thanks! I don't even surf! :D
ren ten
ren ten - 11 years ago
surf guides.....fuck off idiot cunts
wavepark
wavepark - 11 years ago
It might affect your surfing maneuvers, especially if you are Kelly Slater. More importantly, it will definitely reduce your injury chances.
Rich Lehrer
Rich Lehrer - 11 years ago
great...thanks
Charlie
Charlie - 11 years ago
it should be etiquette but some local cunts think they have priority because they live there and paddle round everyone
slickcross
slickcross - 11 years ago
I wish i could surf. It looks to hard. Eddie Vedder is a fanatic of this sport. He even wrote a song about it. Its called "Amongst The Waves". You surfers should check it out.
m ra
m ra - 11 years ago
Awesome advice...i see you there mate...
mrquizical
mrquizical - 11 years ago
Hmmm. I like your zen attitude. To be in harmony with the wave, is all important for a beautiful experience. what ever the wave gives you. Minus any distractions. I don't know if zen was the the right word, but it was the first word that popped into my mind. You have thought it out well. Thank You MT. mr. quizical
Christian Berges
Christian Berges - 11 years ago
Will this not affect my surfing maneuvers?
wavepark
wavepark - 11 years ago
Trying to avoid "cracks" out here eganc. Hospitals are too far away for that kind of conditioning.
wavepark
wavepark - 11 years ago
Hi StayFrosty. I just mean to use a piece of sandpaper and take the edge off your fins and noses by removing the sharp edge with the sandpaper.
wavepark
wavepark - 11 years ago
Typically Tommy, you are right. However, when the person who is deepest is also the greedy guy who just got the last 3 set waves, but there are 15 people in the water, then a change is necessary. That's why we say "wait your turn", so it doesn't matter how close you are to the curl. Then everybody has a fair chance to get the same great waves. We're all here for the same reason! Cheers!
KONAGUYHAWAII
KONAGUYHAWAII - 11 years ago
You snake me i pound you bra!
KONAGUYHAWAII
KONAGUYHAWAII - 11 years ago
Im gonna come to Indo and snake all your waves muwahahaha!
justin davis
justin davis - 11 years ago
yah i thought whoever was deepest into the wave go to take it
Murrangurk2
Murrangurk2 - 11 years ago
It would break your heart to surf where I live. Surfers here are arseholes. Torquay, Vic.
Tommy Milin
Tommy Milin - 11 years ago
Good video but one correction. It's not whose been waiting the longest it's actually whoever is closer to the start of the curl of the wave.
Christian Berges
Christian Berges - 11 years ago
What do you mean by "sanding down" my fins and noses...

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