HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO SAIL AROUND THE WORLD? (Sailing Ruby Rose)
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So how much does it cost to sail around the world? Costs are important, and this week we talk about money and what experience has shown us. Hope you guys find this episode useful- let us know whether it was informative and if you agree with our thoughts regarding costs. We'll be back next week with the regular episodes! Thanks so much for watching! Please subscribe, leave a comment and give a thumbs up. Links: http://www.yachtrubyrose.com http://www.facebook.com/yachtrubyrose http://www.twitter.com/yachtrubyrose http://www.instagram.com/yachtrubyrose Other resources: http://mjsailing.com/cos/ http://www.noonsite.com/General/CruisingInformation/the-cost-of-cruising http://www.sailingcreo.com/much-cost-live-sailing-boat/ http://sailourworld.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-sail-our-world/ Music: Alan Walker- Fade
Im not even sure what questions to ask....
Oh yeah... Once the investment comes through we could do anything we wanted to. We could do BOTH many times over...
But the big expense in it all isn't the purchasing of these things, it's the money NOT made because that money is NOT invested in new orchards.... you see?
I mean... In the 4 years to becomong mature, a kiwifruit orchard will double or triple in value.
So a 3.5 million dollar yacht is actually costing you the profit you didn't make (7 million).
Because of this, its one or the other Initially...house or boat.
After the orchards have gone through a few 4 year reinvestment cycles, so like... In 8 or 12 years... THAT'S the time when you do both.
But damn... Can I REALLY live on aboat for 8 years?
And even worse, can I live in ONE house for 8 years??
The thought if being tied down in any one place too long is painful...
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I'm looking at purchasing a cat in 3 years time and have started doing research as you do. Cost, self education, looking at booking charters over the next few years on the types of cats I'd be interested in purchasing. So I have subscribeded and look forwrdto seeing your experiences. As a novice at best I found it very interesting.
Sounds like everywhere is different regarding requirements . I will, however, only be sailing the med so if you know anyone or things I should be learning from that would help guide that process of making the dream/reality an easier transition I am open.
Currently a boater on the London waterways.... But not forever!
Blessings to you both.
Thanks for the ray if sunshine ;)
JC
( which I toatly agree with by the way ) and I still think you two are the best..
Hope you see this and hope to see you soon..
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I've subscribed !!
Do you have a video of what it costs or procedure entering and leaving a country. do you have to spend time docked in a marina?
I'm sure I'm not the only one wanting to know more of the dark side so to speak. dangers at sea, big ships, whirlpools, pirates? I'd imagine it's not all clicking beer bottles.
also, do you see yourselves opening up to having guests aboard that can join your travels for a few and possibly teach tour know how?
Thanks the both of you
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Kidding, nice video.
all what you need is a blue Hawaiian shirt :D
Very interesting information. Nice to see you keep your lovely wife happy.
While at dock, or if one is able to access internet devices. Consider BitCoin mining.
Preferably buy the right type of computer gear; but will also work with most any computer get as long as one has ten gig of hard disk space - also preferably ssd. Once set up properly the gear will generate trading money on it's own. The better the system, the more money one will make.
I've set up computers with solar/battery on board relative small to medium sized vessels that easily make one thousand per month in BitCoin
You two have put together the most informative and truthful video on what it is like to be a "Blue Water Sailor". If you get a chance stop by Guam and check us out. It's a great rest stop after Hawaii. You can get a preview at; aquamanchartersguam@yahoo.com, my friend, Captain Gie, owns it, I used to drive for him. He's got a facebook page. The boating community is very tight and supportive. Marianas Yacht Club is where you can moor your boat close to shore...cheaply.
FAIR WINDS
Captain BUCKLEY.
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?DU=mi&MS=wls&P=longest%3A60S125E-110W68N%2C60S125E-110W68N
Good vid, thanks.
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Tel me that is not stressful .
Yep; and that's the very first prerequisite for a life you can indeed be ridiculously happy with. Thankyou, wise people. Time I up-anchored as well, I think.
I lived aboard for 20+ years with my wife too but she will not go offshore so we are. Both landlubbers again sadly.
Bahamas are too expensive go to the Pacific.
Just bought new mainsail and will check on standing and running rigging as I go.
Take your time, but you need to start somewhere. If you don't put one foot ahead of the other, you will find yourself standing still. 30 ft is not big, but it's absolutely doable if it's a boat with a good oceangoing reputation and you are a man (or woman) of experience, if you plan to go all the way around.
Good luck to you! S/V Tiger Lily.
It was all set up to try and reduce our stress levels.
So far it's working well
Keep it up guys
Its a dream for me to do what u r doing
God bless
Happy Sailing...
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I once crossed the Atlantic/Caribbean/South Pacific with my three kids, their sun-burnt mum & I. A wondrous age for us all!
Yes indeed, too many yachties spend too much on too big a boat.
It's the bigger is better, (safer) reflex/myth. Bigger isn't necessarily better for a small cruising crew. Buying a bigger boat is an absolute commitment to much, much higher & unassailable cost.
Try this as a rule of thumb :- The costs/sailing budget increases almost by 30% compounded for each foot over 36ft. That means running a 40ft -42ft boat can be just about 300% more costly than a 36ft yacht!
Furthermore, this rule of thumb applies to the 'manpower' too. That one snagged headsail mid ocean that takes the absolute strength of one man on a 36ft yacht to free - requires 3 men on your 40 ft-42 ft boat.
Bigger boats are tighter to dock too...
As a guidance...
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A new boat's value will depreciate 10% - 15% p.a. compounded for the first 5 years irrespective of whether it is picking up harbour rot tied to a wharf, pontoon or dock, our out at brutal sea.
Whereas a good classic ( 15 years plus) hardly depreciates IF the boat is being kept in 'ship shape', and so many are. Thankfully there are thousands of boat owners that are never ever going to take their boat anywhere, but for an annual scrub & polish haulout, and a the obligatory sail-past at the opening cruise!
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In the year I crossed the Panama (2004) I was one of the last boats through in 'the season'. and that was about the 1700'th yacht (both ways) of the year. Many turn up/north towards the US, so pitiful few, attempt the annual South Pacific crossing, and that is confirmed as only about 300 yachts round South Africa each year.
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There are 12.1 million registered boats in the USA.of which 95% are smaller than 26ft https://www.nmma.org/press/article/21009 so say 600,000 ocean ready & capable boats, and about the same in Europe I'd guess, at a guess? (lead by France, Germany, and Britain ?) so lets say 1,200,000 yachts about the planet , that COULD do great things.
Only 300 odd actually do, do the the circumnavigation thing.
It's a big dream.
Many of the best boats get to Martinique and then their crews divorce! For many, for so few have ever had to TRULY live with their spousespartners... that's live as in LIVE 24/7 in absolute confidence & trust.
That said - it's a wonderful dream. I am one of those blessed few, (by Neptune?) that live to not regret hounding their dreams.
That said ocean sailing is very, very doable, the biggest fails are the interpersonal failures, by & large, and the troubles that could not or are not left behind.
It is a small / vast world out there, no convenient fast food outlets, TV, internet, etc., a delight ... for some, despair for others.
Frigates blue skies, whales & the darkest nights and the endless open seas, and scrapping from exotic port to port to make repairs, the blackest clouds , the clearest stars, and distant bars, the sweetest beers, and fond friends and then eventually it's "land ahoy!"
It's the best of everything, it is the worst of everything too ... It's your Gaussian expectations squashed & flattened into an an unrecognisable intrigue & a delight. Unforgettable memories, of places & people....
Bon voyage..
God bless you and your travels! ;-)
However we also use wifi hotspots and wifi in cafes and bars for larger uploads.
Re: SSB. Using the backstay as an antenna won't be much use if you get dismasted !
My advice, get a boat as soon as you can and get started before ( as you stated ) your health gets in the way.
If you are a little bit handy, you could buy a fixer upper and get on the water earlier. Just make sure you get a survey before you take the plunge.
Good luck
As for your question, well everyone does it in various ways. My thoughts are that you can learn to sail competently in about a week in a small boat, but you need to then learn for the rest of your life. We still learn now on a daily basis.
I started by doing what you did. Take a 2 day dinghy sailing course to understand the real basics of sailing.
Then I bought a boat. A small, beat up 25 ft boat that I loved, and didnt cost the world. I went out every weekend, to sail and stayed on her every weekend. This taught me far more, but also it taught me how to fix and maintain my boat. I learnt engine maintenance, sail care, how to varnish, do carpentry, splice rope, polish steel/fibreglass, climb a mast safely and many other skills. So that when I wanted to leave I wasn't scared of these seemingly daunting tasks.
It's not for everyone, but just how I did it. Knowing how to sail is not even half the job.
However, the fact that you are planning and doing your research is a good first step. Good luck in achieving your dreams. I promise you it is worth it.
Check them out on FB under The Geordie The Witch and the Wench.
They only have a Sat Phone, no internet until Hawaii. It's all very basic on their 1958 Gaff Rigged Cutter built in Denmark.
Cheers.
Yachts 30 years old require a complete refurb to be seaworthy to even a modest degree. That includes rigging, mechanical and hull. That would cost around $80,000 conservatively, even if you spend a couple of years doing the work yourself (and you better have had a lot of experience). The motor (max 15 years) and rig (standing 12 years max and running 5 years, mast section 20 years max although some people gamble to 30 years) would be way way past their use by date.
I have seen it happen and managed over 100 yachts.
Nice people living in Disneyland.
People do not understand that a boat lives in the most extreme environment. Would you trust a rattly 30 year old car to go around the world on land where you cannot drown? Try multiplying the deterioration by roughly 5 times for a boat. You have not much left. Every single thing on a boat that age is unsuitable for an offshore passage.
So here's the thing. It is hard. Hard to let go and sail off. We had so many worries about what to do if it went wrong. I was a dentist with my own business, and if I had needed to go back, I would have had to start from the bottom again and work up. Also, it is not a job that you can do from the internet.
Different people have different levels of commitment to their lives on land. House. kids. job.
We tried to transition as smoothly as possible. We spend more and more time sailing over long weekends while still working. Then we spent two summers on extended vacations making sure we liked the life for say six weeks.
Then we jumped.
So far we have found that most people have 2 major hurdles to overcome.
The first is actually buying a boat. We have met so many people that are very vague about when they want to buy. Maybe in a few years. Ok, for some it is a financial thing. But we saved and had an account we called " boat fund" . We could see what we had and knew that we were saving for a definitive goal. This made it a little easier to see our savings increasing. However this was the easier of the hurdles.
The second is actually leaving. We also know many boat owners who have yachts and keep telling everyone they are going to go in a "few years". Nothing materialises and they stay safely tied to the pontoon.
The best advice I can give anyone, is to NEVER say you are going to "sail around the world" or "sail to the Bahamas", because then you have to live up to that expectation.
Just do what we did and say " we are going sailing". It removed so much stress and expectation from us.
Luckily we loved it and continue to love it.
Awesome life and channel, by the way. Cheers from Spain!
Thanx!
You have a beautiful country, and some of the friendliest people we have ever met.
There are quite a few blog entries from Morocco on our blog.
Fair winds.
But is insurance cost like at insurance at home for a car...how more expierenced sailor , gives more insurance savings.
It comes down to the quality of the initial build, how thick the fibreglass was laid down and the competence of the boat builder.
Some older fibre glass boats pre 1980s suffer from delamination which can be serious.
Some brands or makes that I know of that have been around for years, that are well built yachts include
Sadler, contessa, moody, westerly.
These are all British yachts as I don't know the US brands.
Anyways, I'd love to have a bit of a taste of this lifestyle one that now I am getting somewhere!! Thanks a lot guys and keep up the good work!
PS: Subscribed, subscribed, subscribed...scribed :D
If you are a US citizen, maybe consider the Usvis? It's so close to the BVIs and spanish virgin islands. The cruising is simple and beautiful. It also has the advantage of being close to major hospitals linked to the US .
Just an idea
Metal heat up more in the tropics. Metal also suffer with galvanic corrosion.
Fibreglass can delaminate.
As a rule of thumb, minor repairs: fibreglass is easier to fix
Great, great, GREAT info, thank you so much! Kind of boring but it's absolutely essential info for anyone hoping to follow in your footsteps some day. Keep it up and best of luck!
I know that the info video is a bit dry, but maybe try some others, they should be a little more entertaining
I like youre boat and i think you did a good job outfitting her. nice to know exactly what you got under you.
10 years ago i bought a fixer upper in fiji. paid 50k then went broke and spent 100k doing the total refit myself sails,rigging,chainplates,paint,diesel,outboards ,rib,autopilots,plotters, computers sat phones,ssb. just to name a few and now have spent or am speending another 100k doing it all again. I put 15,000 hours on my yanmar .its really not hard to do . and i am still broke
My inflatable rib gave me 11 years service every day. but went through 3 outboards .Am on my 3rd autopilot big below deck units 4th refrigeration unit super cold machines 3rd sat phone irridium,,4th balmar alternator,3rd smart charger,3rd chart plotter, oh man it just goes like that.
Its a boat. or money pit if you live on it and actually cross oceans you break shit and shit wears out.
My 40 year old aires still going strong ,cant say that about raymarine though.
Its a life though hey.
cruising.
As a rule of thumb, the older the boat the greater the maintenance and cost required to keep her afloat.
As you may have seen on here, we've had half a dozen comments regailing us with stories about boats that were bought for $5 and a corn dog , but yet were Bluewater ready.
They do exist, but are rare as hell. A good candid comment like this balances the argument . Fair winds
This video was super helpful and encouraging as I would love to sail around the world one day. Currently I am a poor 21 year old who doesn't know anything about sailing. While I plan to fix the poor part when I get out of school, I was wondering how you both got involved in sailing. Did your families have boats? Did you race as kids? What would be a relatively cheap entry point?
Thanks!
Andrew
Cheers!
Cheers!
- JP in Denver - 10 year plan to circumnavigate. Year one. :)
Thank you for sharing your experience !
You say you have another different expense fund for the boat to cover the unforeseen , is it on top of your 3000$ living fund? If yes , how much is it or how much have you spend per month just for the boat so far ?
Cheers for now
Nicolas
If you want a later and greater HF radio you will pay thousands but many older radios are still just as good for maritime. To use an example here, the newer Codan radios (NGT) are still fetching $1500 or more second hand where an old Codan (9393) is around $600-1.2k with the tuner and older (8528) with tuner could be had for just a few hundred and will still do the job for you.
You could always cheat and just buy an amateur HF radio at $1500 new/$300 2nds with tuner and modify it to run on marine and hope noone sees it :P.
- Solar
- Wind gen
- Water maker
- Self Steering gear
- Ocean life raft
- Eperb/Emergency Positioning Beacon
- Flares
- Boat parachute vest
- Sails: Parasailer, Down wind sails, Code 0, Storm
- Hi generator
- SSB radio (unsure how necessary it is)
- Sat phone
- ALS transponder
- Spares....of what I don't know :-)
doc johnny
Thanks for the reply
We bought it because we weren't sure if our YouTube channel was going to go anywhere or not and didn't want to invest crazy amounts of money in a camera. It works pretty well and is especially good in low light with an F-stop of 1.8.
yes you too can pay $12,000 for your electronics or you can build smart and get the same effect for $1200.
Want grib files offshore ? use an SD card and load em from a laptop. Get your iPad inside your cabin, use the waterproof evo2 outdoors.
you can buy a ferrari for getting groceries but you can also get a cheapo hatchback for the same effect.
you can get a simple windvane, a dual ais/vhf radio and hook it up to a chartplotter with nmea0183. a simrad evo 2 can also handle the sonar output - use a fowardscan. you dont need a high bandwidth datalink inside your boat - just use your ipad as a second high res screen.
https://fi.google.com/about/plan/ I am particularly interested in learning where in Bahamas/Caribbean people are able to work on Internet using them vs say BTC sim cards and top up on your own iphone used as a hotspot.
1st vlog of yours I've seen. Very practical and your personalities are delightful. imo. (subscribed)
I'm retired and have 30 years of sailing adventures and joy. fyi
Rodger
Also weighing up the relative costs. A day phone is cheaper over say a 5 year cycle than ssb
We have one for us dollars, another for euros and a third for world currencies
Enjoying this video. I'm curious about your comment on the value of your hydro-generator... if you spend a month on anchor then how does the hydro generator help? Surely wind-geni would be annoying, noisy, but works both sailing and at anchor? I've heard a few folks rave about hydro geni's but don't understand the attraction! How many days a month/year are you actually sailing so you can get power from it? Appreciate your thoughts....
Cheers T
3x44 foot boat = $132 a day
132x 30 (30days) = $3960.00 a month
Each boat will cost a bit more and some will cost way less...
Yes you can do it for far less and cut cost if your will to cut out things by doing them yourself.. and yourself meaning a lot of jobs.
That said, he owned a big motor boat with three oversized engines on it....
Thank you and happy sailing .
best wishes from me, Andy.
Over!
As far as stress... having a expensive boat, with lots of gear, that you can't walk away(from fire, hitting a reef, sinking etc) from is stress... a cheaper way is to learn to breathe, do yoga or meditation, and don't worry about it. Whatever happens will. While 50-60K would hurt, it won't kill me. But a 200K boat plus cost to refit... would break my bank and make me homeless.....
Thanks for sharing.
Question: How does one access money from back home while in remote locations.... let's say you get regular deposits in your home bank--- how can one get money over to foreign lands....?
Off-topic question: I notice that you use a 'Hyrdovane'..
Do you also have an electronic autopilot? If so, how do you use one vs the other?
This lifestyle is A CHOICE. Be prepared for the realization that everything you take for granted on land will be significantly more limited, difficult, or expensive, etc. on the boat. However, if you seek happiness, serenity, and a more meaningful life then cruising is definitely the way to go.
Again, the boat is the key. There are a lot of great boats for sale in the U.S. Don't be reluctant to look at a 50 year old boat, back then the builders did not understand the strength of fiberglass so they made hulls with 3-5 inches of solid fiberglass. These boats are nearly indestructible. Get a good survey ($$$) but worth every penny. My experience purchasing my 49 year old girl is that if the asking price is $60k USD and the boat has been on the market for a year or two then offer something in the low $40s pending survey. If the boat has been on the market for 2-3 years you can steal it for a fraction of the asking price. Of course, this assumes it is a boat worth having = personal taste and survey results.
There are according to Sail magazine about 12,000 cruising boats in the Caribbean. Forget about having the perfect boat perfectly fitted with all the gizmos, waiting for that "right time in my life" otherwise you'll be 65 and still waiting. Buy a good boat, get minimal gear to ensure your safety and JUST GO. Everything else you can figure out when you get out there.
Two Cents Worth from a 50 year old retiree cruising who couldn't be happier.
Find the right woman is already difficult on land.
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981/Bristol-40-sloop-2993061/Phippsburg/ME/United-States
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1978/Bristol-40--3038751/New-Bern/NC/United-States
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/Bristol-40-Yawl-3054553/MA/United-States
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1975/Bristol-Bristol-40-Ted-Hood-2690479/Fort-Lauderdale/FL/United-States
No answer from Teresa about a sister. Guess I'm out of luck.
http://www.bristolsailboats.org/?page_id=112
http://www.cruisingworld.com/sailboats/40-best-sailboats
She's solid, sturdy, and tracks on rails when sailing. She loves 25+ wind. The only thing missing is a partner to join me. I wonder if Teresa has a sister???
thanks for the reality of sailin. This iz the best prospective eye have ever seeen
all the best from newy, nsw, Aus
S/V Touchwood (Tenerife)
I have been looking at getting a boat hopefully in five years time and these sort of videos you and others are putting out are very helpful. Their certainly is a lot to consider.?
Would love to by you a beer and or a bottle of wine at some stage.
Thanks again.
Ian
I do hope i catch up with you one day to say hello.
No one can say whether or not you will be a good fit for sailing...no one can expect to take all the unexpected out of it but, in the big picture, as we have seen and heard from Nick and Theresa, the responsibility is yours as well as the rewards.
It gives you unlimited 3G/4G internet for £5.50 a day. You only pay that when you actually have to connect.
It uses the same sim, so theres no faffing about and works almost worldwide.
https://www.tepwireless.com/frequent-traveler/
I'll be retiring in 10 years or so and I will have a pension that would cover the expenses you mentioned. The main challenge I have is getting a good boat and having it paid off before I retire. I think I can probably work that out though. Your boat is pretty pricey if I am not mistaken. Congratulations on that.
Adventure on,
-johnny